>"Yeah, let's make a new Dark type TM, except it's just a worse version of BITE instead of being a good move"
why is gamefreak so retarded?
it was designed for doubles
>>31881870
If you had bothered to look at the entire page, you would have noticed it hits everyone.
>>31881883
>60 bp split in power to hit multiple targets
It's SHIT.
I bet you defended Healer Mega SHITdino.
>>31881883
But it's shit in doubles, it has 60 BP and also hurts your ally.
The only way this could be useful is to use Justified, but does this situation really need to create a whole new TM?
>>31881870
it was okay on sd mega scizor prebank
>>31881910
>>31881915
i never said it was good though, just has a different purpose than Bite, maybe they should add an additional effect like lowering speed or something
>>31881870
It's a good move. But I agree it needs flinch chance or power boost.
It's also the only contact move that can hit multiple Pokémon at once. So it IS unique!
>>31881870
>he didn't Brutal Swing psychic types shit in with his in-game Bewear
Git gud.
>>31881935
Is this bait? Earthquake and Rock Slide are literally the same concept. Contact move that can hit multiple pokémon at once.
>>31881950
Earthquake and Rockslide are indeed physical but are NOT contact moves.
>>31881950
Neither of those are contact moves.
>Venoshock
>Torment
>Round
>Echoed Voice
>QUASH
>Embargo
>Psych Up
>Aurora Veil
>Confide
ALL the TM's that need to go.
Give some priority attack a TM.
What's the order in which it hits every Pokemon on the field?
I want to imagine a gimmick team with Brutal Swing and a Weakness PolicyTrick RoomCofagrigus, nullifying all abilities on the field.
>>31881964
The only TM's that needs to go and be forgotten are toxic and ice beam.
>confide is still a TM
>>31881956
>>31881957
I could swear I've been rused by Static shenanigans using Earthquake before.
>>31881991
M8 you are either beyond retarded or baiting.
>removing TMs
We should have at least 300 TMs by now.
>>31882002
>admitting to being not 100% sure about something is baiting
I know this triggers your crippling autism but you can chill anon.
>>31881937
Why not just use Shadow Claw?
>>31882009
>adding TM's
>300
at least 50 would be useless.
Quality over quantity, lad. Go ahead and tell me the last time you used fucking Quash.
>>31882009
I imagine they don't want to extend the TM list past 100 for convenience reasons
300 is way too many TMs to hunt down and scroll though
>>31882055
At least you have the option.
>>31882062
Fuck that. In an ideal world, every move would be a TM. Fuck having to transfer things over four games because you want just one move that hasn't been available since then.
>>31881967
They have to make contact with you to get Mummy, not the other way around.
>>31882055
Prankster Quash is really good in VGC, making a Choice Scarfed chomp a cripple
>>31882087
Ah, that's a shame. Thought it was all contact in general.
>>31881870
It's good for mons that don't have teeth and have Technician.
>>31881964
forgot work up
gives us back hone claws
>>31882134
Work Up is ok on Z-Move sets now
>>31882075
just inject lol
>>31882062
You know seeing as how the National Dex is only assailable in Poke Bank, why not have Moves that was once TMs be able to be taught in Poke Bank. That way we won't have over a 100 TMs to collect.
>>31881910
I've seen Mega Scizor use to great effect in VGC Doubles.
>>31881964
Venoshock and Echoed Voice were designed to be weaker for early game usage when pokemon don't learn that many moves.
Quash is extremely niche, but it works well with Prankster pokemon in double battles.
Psych Up also has some niche uses in double battles (See: Eevoboost Teams).
>Thinking Aurora Veil needs to leave as a TM
I can't defend the rest of those. Maybe in some alternate universe where stat reductions ingame mattered, Confide would be good.
252+ Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Brutal Swing vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 119-141 (18.5 - 21.9%) -- possible 5HKO
>>31882363
Is this in doubles?
>>31882363
252+ Atk Technician Scizor-Mega Brutal Swing vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 159-188 (24.7 - 29.2%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
?
Why not make it 90 BP like Surf?
>>31882264
>Megas
>VGC