Why can Pheromosa learn Ice Beam? I mean the movepool for Pheromosa

Because Ice type is actually Cuck type

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>Oh you know the only good offensive ice type move
>Yeah what about it?
>Let's give it to every pokemon under the sun

>>31850888

Have you ever looked at some gen 1 movesets? Nearly every pokemon can run around with flamethrower/ice beam/thunderbolt unless they are grass or bug type.

Because she's a cold hearted cunt

>>31850888
Why can Slowbro learn flamethrower?

>>31850888
Alolan Marowak can learn it too.

>>31850910
>Icicle Crash
>Ice Shard
>Freeze Dry
>Icicle Spear (it's good on anti-leads)

>>31850888
Some of the UBs are supposed to feel like they have three types. If Pheromosa learned other ice moves they could pass her off as a Bug/Fighting/Ice type.
Fucking hell. Pheromosa would actually make a ballin' Bug/Ice type and it would balance out her bullshit just a little bit.

>>31850935
>why can a hermit crab learn to create fire?
>hermit
gee I wonder

>>31850962
That's because regular Marowak could already learn it and has the general genwun TM movepool

>>31851025
She could've also been a Bug/Psychic type, that would've been neat.

>>31851035
>slowbro
>hermit crab
The line's based on salamander, which are usually associated with fire.

>>31851035
>Slowbro
>Hermit Crab

Also, last time I checked, Dwebble could not learn flamethrower...

>>31850888
>Pheromosa's lithe, elegant body is capable of sudden feats of acceleration, able to twitch its limbs at an estimated 120 mph (200 km/h) instantaneously, a speed previously unseen in the world
Probably by some DC Flash bullshit where she vibrates the particles in her throat, causing the water in the air to freeze

>>31851047

>clearly mammalian
>salamander

it's a mix between an otter and a hippo

>>31850888
So that she wouldn't be walled by Lando.

>>31850910
The gag is that Seismitoad doesn't get it.
To use a water and ice move on it, you have to go mixed or use Hidden Power Ice lmao

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>>31850888
>movesets adhering to logic

The literal God of pokemon shaped the universe with his 100 arms yet he can't learn how to punch with any of them.

>>31851088
*1000 fuck typos

>>31851055
The Shellder is a parasite like the one that took over Parasect

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>Pheromosa and Alolan Marowak can learn Ice beam

>Alolan Sandshrew and Alolan Sandslash (Ice/Steel type. I repeat, ICE/Steel type) can't

>>31851025
>Icicle Crash
Mediocre power/accuracy combination
>Ice Shard
Only as good as the other elemental Quick Attacks, not a substitute for an actual Ice coverage move
>Freeze Dry
Yeah, for the 3 things that learn it
>Icicle Spear
Cloyster is the only thing that cares about this move

>>31851088
Pokedex entries are all made-up bullshit

>>31850888
It's associated with the moon. Lunatone, Cresselia, and Lunala also get Ice Beam.

>>31851035
>>31851047
>>31851067
It's a sazae-oni.

>>31851169
Yes. Pokemon aren't even real! Imagine that.

>>31851025
>The only good ice mons that can learn icicle crash are weavile and mamoswine
>40 bp won't be killing anything, can also be learnt by fucking donphan
>Best thing that can use Freeze-dry is mega Glalie
>Mamoswine and king's rock cloyster
So out of every Ice type mon 2 competitively viable ones have unique attacking ice type moves. Neat

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>>31851229
>Pheromosa
>associated with the moon

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>Pheromosa can learn Ice Beam
>Lapras CAN'T learn Scald

>>31850888

Same reason Rhydon can learn Surf and thunderbolt

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>>31851249

>>>>>The ONLY Ice type that can learn Scald, is fucking Crabominable

>>>>>>A Physical Attacker

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>justifying Pheromosa learning ice beam with examples of Gen 1 movepool autism
>even though Gen 1 was notorious for it and Pheromosa is gen 7

Why can't Mew learn crabhammer?

>>31851390
it only gets it from Crabrawler, because all crabs foam and bubble at the mouth, aquatic, amphibious, or terrestrial

kinda weird how crabrawler fires bubbles from its claws in the anime and not in the game, tho

>the only ice type that can learn scald is crabominable
ice/fire type Japanese macaque Pokemon when?

>>31851249
>Lapras with Scald and Freeze-Dry will never be a thing

;_;

>>31851230
>>31851147

>he doesn't use hoge

>>31851249
>>31851390
>The only fire types that can learn scald are Volcanion and Emboar
>and of those two, Volcanion is also a water type

>>31851147
>>31851230
The point is that there are roughly 5 useful ice type moves.

If more pokemon learned Icicle Crash, we'd be seeing more of them. Dragon Dance Lapras might jump up in usage (in low ladder) and Feraligatr might be that much more useful.

Ice Shard is 40bp, but it's also +1 Priority. I don't know how it takes some people 20 years to realize this, but priority is huge. Priority outside of Psychic Terrain completely invalidates one of the most important stats in the game for offensive teams. It should go without saying but Ice type as an offensive typing is excellent.

Freeze Dry has the best offensive coverage of any move in the game. I should have to explain the importance of this but it would make bulky waters drop in viability like a rock if more mixed or special attackers could learn this move.

Icicle Spear is, admittedly, not a good move. However, it has niche uses (like I said in my initial post) as an excellent anti-lead tool, cleanly removing even sashed variants of Azelf, Garchomp, Landorus-T, Gliscor, Smeargle, and Aerodactyl with only two hits, with the ability to remove bulkier leads like Celebi and Hippowdon after 3-5 hits. It also breaks Multiscale and KO's Dragonite after just two hits if the opponent has good hazard control (which they will if they're running Dragonite competently). There aren't many Pokemon that can make use of this outside of the two Pokemon that already use it, though.

>>31851417

>it only gets it from crabrawler

No, Crabominable can still learn the TM

>>31851489
oh my b

Well, we still don't have a Japanese macaque Pokemon for some reason

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>>31851230
>>31851488

Trick Room Crabominable used Ice Hammer!

>>31851509
Unfortunately, Trick Room itself doesn't have an ability that summons it or item that extends it

>>31851438
>Emboar
100 Sp. attack isnt bad I guess, I was going to bitch about how it was a bad special attacker but then I see Im wrong.
It still has Garchomp level Attack though.

>>31851397
Aggron

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>>31851438
>the only type that can switch into scald without risking a burn is fire type
>scald is super effective against fire types

>volcanion is the only fire type that can switch into scald without taking at least neutral damage
>he's not a physical attacker

>>31851712
>helmet buge doesn't exist

>>31851712
volcanion is immune to scald by virtue of water absorb

>>31851788
That's my point.
He's the only fire type that can switch freely into scald.