>Talonflame gone >Quicker than and strong against

>>31843637
>slower than pheremosa
>can't hold an item so it's slower than lele

it's shit

>>31843637
>Destroys all of the Tapus
>Outspeed most of the meta
>No Talonflame

Aside from being screwed over by scarf lele, priorities, celesteela, skarm and Landorus this thing is pretty much awesome.

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>>31843904
>it's good if you ignore the biggest threats in the metagame

Why should I use it over Pheromosa?

>>31843637
>Quicker than and strong against fairy type Tapu's
Lele typically runs scarf

>>31843918
That's why it has other teammates to deal with the stuff it can't otherwise

It even has Knock Off and Drill Run from previous gen

>>31843650
YOU'RE SHIT

>>31843918
oh no celesteela/skarmory
>uturn away to magnezone
>faint celesteela/skarmory
>slow voltswitch back to beedrill

oh no tapu lele
>switch to muk
>lele is choice scarf trapped to psychic
>pursuit

>>31844203
>playing smart

>>31843637
>Fell Stinger buff
This thing doesn't even need to run Protect anymore.

>>31843637
Lele's the likely check.

>>31843934
STAB JAB

>>31843637
>Mega Stone is only available via limited time distribution.

Why u do dis, Game Freak?

Did i miss the mega stone distribution?

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>>31843650
>>slower than pheremosa
There is nothing faster than Pheremosa

>>31844203
Pursuit is bad. You're better off using Poison Jab, or Knock Off if you predict a switch.

>>31849280
Yes. :^)

>>31849352
ninjask can outspeed and OHKO pheromosa

>>31849352
Ninjask and Deoxys-S

>>31849433

You're retarded.

>>31849987
>>31850035
Nothing in OU that's viable.

>>31850093
>moving goalposts

>>31843637
Fell Stinger buff too.
Will still struggle against Celesteela and friends.

>>31850051
>pursuit on fairy type
>not just knocking off an item for incoming mon
dumbass

Does Lele really carry choice scarf that often?

I wanted to really incorporate m beedrill in my team, so I guess I'll have to beware of that

So what you're telling me is that it's okay to run adamant on mega beedrill because pheromosa/lele outspeed anyway, and who cares about outspeeding mega alakazam because who uses that shit?

>>31850213
It's basically become the only Lele set

>>31849352
exactly. Why use a slower mon when you can use a mon that is not slower and overall more useful? what's the point?

>>31850341

Huh. I never realized how pheromosa is basically a better mega beedrill. Mega beedrill's uturn/poison jab probably hit harder, but pheromosa isn't weak to stealth rocks and has ice beam/high jump kick as well

>>31850302
Not true, I very often see LO and Specs variants. I also see Psychium-Z often. (Rated Battles)

>>31850389
Pheremosa's Bug Buzz/U-turn/Poison jab can easily become more powerful depending on your choice of item and/or what stats it gains from Beast Boost

>>31850389
No Fell Stinger revenge kills for earth-shattering sweeps though. Considering you'll have a really hard time getting a Quiver Dance off without dying.

>>31850444
What exactly does Shattered Psyche kill that Psychic/Psyshock/Moonblast/Twinkle Tackle fails against?

It's not like anyone is stupid enough to switch in their Mega Venusaur or whatever on a Psychic type

>>31850456
Beast Boost is infinitely more reliable than Meme Stinger

Do I seriously have to stat pheromosa so that it gets speed beast boosts? Seems like such a waste, what choice scarfers would even be a big deal to a 252 speed modest pheromosa?

>>31850502
882 / Pheromosa / 151 / +Spe / 252 / +2
802 / Pheromosa / 151 / Neutral / 252 / +2
736 / Hawlucha / 118 / +Spe / 252 / +2
710 / Scolipede / 112 / +Spe / 252 / +2
706 / Tornadus / 111 / +Spe / 252 / +2 (Tailwind)
700 / Metagross (Mega), Raichu (Alola) / 110 / +Spe / 252 / +2
678 / Sharpedo (Mega) / 105 / +Spe / 252 / +2
661 / Pheromosa / 151 / +Spe / 252 / +1
656 / Charizard (Mega-X), Salamence, Volcarona / 100 / +Spe / 252 / +2
638 / Metagross (Mega), Raichu (Alola) / 110 / Neutral / 252 / +2
630 / Terrakion / 108 / Neutral / 252 / +2
620 / Charizard (Mega-X), Volcarona / +Spe / 184 / +2
618 / Sharpedo (Mega) / Neutral / 252 / +2
618 / Landorus-Therian / +Spe / 91 / +2
612 / Lucario / +Spe / 90 / +2
606 / Metagross (Mega), Raichu (Alola) / 110 / Neutral / 188 / +2
604 / Excadrill / 88 / +Spe / 252 / +2

>>31843637
Don't forget
>Gets the Mega stats immediately upon mega evolving so it doesn't even need protect anymore
>Fell stinger got a massive buff. So that on top of adaptability can make it fucking deadly

>>31850389
>high jump miss

>>31850302
you're a fucking tard

What about the Tailwind set?

>>31850199
>Not getting massive damage on a huge threat to your team
dumbass

>>31850502
>>31850537
Don't forget rain teams

>>31850199
>>31853825
fucking rekt

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>>31850341
BECAUSE EVERY MEGA IN EVERY OU GAME IS EITHER METAGROSS OR SCIZOR. FUCK THAT SHIT, WHEN THE FUCK IS LELE GETTING SUSPECTED?

>>31854911
Calm down, Mawile will be here soon

>>31854933
Mega-Mawile is even worse than Lele.

>>31843637
Was this thing ever good?

>>31855158
>Garchomp used Earthquake

nothing personnel kid, get faster next time

>>31858223
The only thing holding it back was that it was forced to run Protect because speed was fucked up on megas last gen.

>>31858223
It was UU last gen, so yeah.

I can't wait to see mega Swampert + Pelipper, especially in VGC.

Butterfree should of gotten a mega...A real status shooting tank.

>>31858230
>252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mawile-Mega in Grassy Terrain: 134-162 (44 - 53.2%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
Bulu might be a common teammate for Mawile. Giving it only one weakness.

>>31858924
Is bulu common with magearna atm?

>>31843918
At least they don't post underwear-less whores.

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>>31843637
GIGA
DRILL
BREAKURRRRRRRRRR

Its finally my bro's time to shine, I was always made fun of for saying weedle was my favorite when I was a kid but who's laughing now?

>>31843637
>Beedrill gets Quiver Dance

How does this change the meta?

>>31859189
It doesn't

>>31859189
>Beedrill gets Quiver Dance

Oh boy! Now Mega Beedrill can really make use of its base 15 SpAtk! Ubers, here we come!

>>31859189
if it get pollen puff it become a fucking wall attacker attack of attackers. and a wall.

>>31849987

>Implying that something cannot Ohko Pheromosa

>>31860889
specs weedle cant

>>31860914
>252+ SpA Choice Specs Weedle Hidden Power Flying vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Pheromosa: 400-472 (141.3 - 166.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Checkmate, atheists.

>>31843904
>>31850213
If you're feeling confident as fuck, use Knock Off on the Lele switch in. Allows you to then outspeed and Jab.

>>31861527
>special weedle
>hp flying
is this the power of autism?

>>31861527
this is honestly pathetic

>>31861546
I did say specs weedle

>>31861538
People with a functional brain wouldn't even switch Lele into Beedrill. Unless Swords Dance Beedrill would be considered viable.

>>31843637
Just needs Twineedle buffed to 60 BP

>>31861589
why not just give mega beedrill technician while we're at it

>>31860341
Your post made me infinitely more retarded. Thanks.

>>31850147
that's not moving the goalpost you fucking downie, Pheromosa is a OU mon

>specs weedle will see more usage in OU than mega beedrill

>>31861794
that doesn't mean you can't use ninjask you fucking mongoloid. You said nothing outspeeds pheromosa, and there are 2 pokemon that do, dipshit. You said nothing about OU, so yeah, you are moving the goalpost.

>>31861604
Its better off with Adaptability.

will a mega beedrill with life orb work?

>>31862219
It's still not as good as slowbro with eviolite

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>>31843650
What's Pheromosa gonna do once it outspeeds, though? It's not like HJK will beat the quad resist, U-Turn won't do diddly squat, either.

>>31862219
Oh, yes, definitely. Good thing megas can hold items.

>>31862526
50%. It's gonna do 50%

>>31862555
And then beedrill OHKOs one of the most important Pokemon on any team. It's certainly not a counter or even a check to M-Beedrill. Maybe if it was bug/flying and took 50% from SR, but otherwise it's trash. M-Pinsir would be a better counter.

>>31861566
Weedle doesn't get hp flying

>>31862526
>U-Turn won't do diddly squat, either

252 Atk Life Orb Pheromosa U-turn vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill-Mega: 156-183 (57.5 - 67.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>31849003
>>31849280
All Mega Stones will be available to everyone
The competition just gives it to people early and sign-ups are still open

>>31862716
>tfw forgot the shitty movepool some NFEs have
I went full retard, sorry. I probably would've even believed magikarp could use aerial ace

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>>31862535
Yeah I know, fantastic isn't it?

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>>31862717
That IS diddly squat to a fragile sweeper like Beedrill. Beedrill just proceeds to OHKO Pheromosa and move on to the rest of the team.

>>31862922
Well, fug, that's right. Switching from U-Turn, I suppose. Still, it'll hit whatever switches in damn hard and can easily switch out. I guess Ash-Grenigger would be a good teammate to deal with non-special Pheromosas.

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>>31855158
mawile is cute! CUTE!

>>31862948
Switch into Lando-T or chomp and the beedrill is basically useless

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>>31864532
Mawile a shit.
A SHIT.

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>>31864727
>putting saliva on Mawile's horns

>>31862526
what the fuck are you even talking about
Lele doesn't resist Poison Jab you stupid retard

>>31864552
>revealing your sweeper before taking out lando-t (which is very easy)