do you guys agree with the topics of pic related ? i'm

>>31825543
No, it's fucking retarded. The only legitimate point is the artwork, and even then the "old" one shown there isn't even the original one, which is as bad as the "new" one.

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>>31825543

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>>31825543
There is nothing to agree or to disagree.
The picture is right.
Pokemon changed a lot. For bad, sadly.

cant you still max out evs at lv100?

What's the point of this thread?

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>>31825543

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>Unfezant is overdesigned
>"Gyarados is a Chinese dragon that's how they look"

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>>31825543
Overdesigned/visually complex isn't bad. Have they forgotten that most of the old designs were simplistic as the Gameboy was very limited technical wise? They no longer have this issue nowadays, so they're free to do what the fuck they want. This is nostalgia bias no matter how much you slice it.

That picture gave me braincancer because of how retarded it is. Please never post that again.

>>31825543
>How is Haxorus a dragon? It doesn't even have wings.
>What the fuck is Dratini, Dragonair, and Kingdra

>>31825543
>Complains about modern art style
>Use modern art style to prove point

>>31825543
>sprites
true, models are also bland and boring
>art
also true, most official renders are also soulless
>design
completely untrue
>natures
I don't ever understand the point he's trying to make

>complaints about Natures

That's not Nostalgia alright, that's downright being a lazy fuck who wants an oversimplified game. Not even the baitiest bait can say something this retarded.

>less intimidating
yes ,especially in 3D
>better designs
depends,there is good and bad, but that's mostly due to sprites/models being shit
>nature,abilities,evs,ivs
they are very annoying to get but they also make the game more interesting.
also inject.

all in all I agree because GF decided to milk these games by targeting children

>>31825737
they have wings though

>>31825793
>sprites
I understand models, but the sprites in Gen 1 were completely awful, most of which butchered the designs (just look at Kingler in OP's image). The sprites in future gens were overall vastly superior. The only major complaint is how rough the animations were in Gen 5. Beyond that, saying Gen 1 sprites were better isn't just nostalgia, it's pants on head retarded.

>>31825818
>they have wings though
Well aren't you retarded

>>31825719
w-what purpose does the white ring around its neck serve :))))))

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>sprites

>>31825655
Asking whether or not we agree with this picture.

>>31825543
Yes. Artwork and sprites were objectively better in gen 1.

Also, natures, abilities, hidden power, and all that crap ruined the game. There's no need for such time sinks on a game with hundreds of characters.

>>31825543

>a pokemon is not a dragon if it doesn't have wings
>gyarados it's ok because he is a chinese dragon
>chinese,not even japanese

>>31825837
I am, but are you blind?

>new artwork is soulless and boring!
>uses new artwork to show how ''clean and fresh'' some pokemon are

That said, I prefer gen 1-2 artwork because of the coloring

>>31825900
Greater complexity isn't a bad thing but it's RNG on top of RNG which makes breeding a competitive team take too long leading to "just inject lol."

>>31825543
>uses gen 3 sprites to "prove" that new sprites are bad when it's common knowledge gen 3 had the worst sprites besides green
>complains about new artstyle then uses that exact artstyle to prove a point
>complaining about natures and abilities when you can easily ignore them and continue using whatever shitmons you want
can't tell if this was made by a genwunner, a braindead toddler or both

>>31825900
t. OP

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>>31825543

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>>31825543
>While you are busy looking for the right natures and abilities, I'm already battling because I don't have to worry about those things

>>31825818
>but they also make the game more interesting.
Not really.

I disagree. SM singles is the most boring thing I've ever played. Everyone can beat everybody else, the game's so fast paced that you often don't even get to use your pokemon's full moveset, let alone see the opponent's, rendering all those "complex systems" pointless as battles somehow are more shallow than RBY ones.

>>31825913
GF should streamline some things. I like EVs and abilities, but I don't see the point of making HAs, IVs, hidden powers, and so on so hard to obtain.

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>>31825931
Hidden Power should go away.

There's a reason movepools exist. You shouldn't be able to have perfect coverage on everything.

>>31825543
Genwunners The Movie: Ultimate Sperg

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>>31825543

this is official artwork for bulbasaur for the games

the one you are posting are for OCG

Gen 1 sprites mostly look mentally retarded, not badass. Only downies would say otherwise.

>>31825726
This.
And I personally don't mind that they're getting creative and inventive with Pokemon biology, it's a lot better than "le standard dinosaur" and "le simple shape" designs of the past.
People need to grow the fuck up and see that their "Utopian game" never fucking existed and that a franchise evolves and changes over time.

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>>31825957
>red and green

>>31825543

The opinion is still trash

Yeah Pokemon from different gens have different designs, some good some bad

but outside artwork, automatically assuming old pokemon designs were better is silly

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>all these underage sinnohfetuses and hoennbabies getting absolutely butt-mad
Face facts guys. As technology improved the pokemon designers got bored and just slapped on a bunch of random shit with led to horribly overdesigned pokemon.

>>31825942
Not only that, but Hidden Power is useless for physical attackers anyways. GF had their chance to make a Fairy type HP, but they didn't. Getting rid of HP would be one less thing to worry about for breeding.

>>31825726
Wanting them to keep a design philosophy isn't about nostalgia, it's about making the series not feel so blatantly divided.

Right now the series is divided like this:

Kanto, Johto =/= Hoenn, Sinnoh =/= Unova =/= Kalos, Alola

>>31826005

this artwork for the card game you liar...

>>31826092
Show me some artwork for the western releases of the games then instead of the original japanese ones.

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>>31826005

>>31825543

honestly I agree with that and I like new gens a lot... pokemon ended at gen 2 rest of them is just a nightmare, even if I like incineroar, I think it could look much better back in gen 1/2...and less cartoony... I hate how they overdesign new monsters...

>>31826121
This, just look at Aipom and Horsea, non cartoony design and realistic

>>31825726
Give this man a cookie

>>31825903
As somebody who's favorite is Kingdra, i can confirm that those are fins, just like the rest of it's evolutionary line
I am actually in doubt with the things in Dratini and Dragonair's head

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>>31826019
2/10 made me reply

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>>31826528
Horsea is so chubby and cute.

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Lana-chan!
She's cute!
I love her!
Lana!

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Cumming inside Acerola-chan and Lana-chan~!

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>>31825543
Acerola-chan's panties are white! White!

On the topic of TGC art, is there any site where I can browse the illustrations? Idgaf about the cards. I just want to gaze upon pretty art of my bros.

>>31825647
what's the point of this thread?

>>31825543
I can write essays on how and why most new designs are horrid but OP's pic is stupid.

>>31826828
It's a bait thread, anon.

sprites

>>31825543
No, he's wrong and pocket picking art and designs that make his opinion look more favourable in comparison. He's literally trying to manipulate people into thinking his Shit opinion is correct with false and misleading information.

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>>31825900
>Sprites were objectively better in gen 1

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SPRITES

>>31826831
Give me an example please Im in the mood for some pokemon art critic, also because Im drawing my own monsters so i Would tak gladly some opinion about monster designs

>>31825543
Some points make sense, like the artwork generally having stronger poses. But as some anons pointed out, there is some cherry picking. Pokemon designs change as the technologies allow these more complex designs to be shown and rendered on-screen.

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vs models

models seem better to me desu

One point is true about the early sprites: they were more active. A fair amount of them depicted (or tried to depict) Pokémon as being on the defensive, or taking offensive, or something; whereas most of the RSE and DP sprites were the Pokémon simply standing there like ready for a picture.

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>>31825543
>he doesn't like based blade man

>>31825818
Do dragons need wings to be dragons?
If that's so all bug flying pokemon must be bug dragon now

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>>31826905
I fucking hated how they used differently sized sprites for backsprites in Gen 1, it made each one look so bad and limited, and I personally love the campy off model attitude of Gen 1 battle sprites.

So fucking unbelievably happy the fixed that in Gen 2. Gen 2 has some of my favorite sprites.

>>31827212
Oops, meant differently sized pixels. My bad.

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>>31827181
Blade man is pretty cool
Most of the megaman 10 bosses are pretty cool

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Protip: Opinion and bias without basis in objectivity and measurable facts are subjective topics of debate. There is no correct objective stance. Any discussion or argument will go unresolved, and consensus will rely solely on who stays the loudest for the longest.

Why do people say "this mon looks like it's from x series" as a way to insult it?
And most of the time it doesn't even look like it's from that series

Cofagrigus has a cool design though
There are plenty of "newer" mons that could have easily existed in Gen 1. It's true they might be missing SOME aesthetic elements due to limitations of the original Game Boy, but there's no need to exaggerate. Even Vanilluxe would be considered a "classic design" if it appeared in RBY

>>31825543
>what's the point of the yellow scribbles on emboar and garchomp?
What's the point of the blue splotches on Ivysaur?

>>31827383
Isn't the yellow things in emboar stomach some based off a chinese story?

>>31825543
no because it's the most autistic shit i've ever read, and i have autism. it's full of weird projecting (m-muh masculinity!!) and weird normie superiority. (i-i dont need natures! i'm already battling! t-take that smogonfags!)

I miss some of the in action sprites, the change to 3D still doesn't sit well with me.

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>>31825543
I disagree.
I do think Pokemon designs have gotten less realistic and more simplistic, but I don't think that's a bad thing. I do love the monstrous and animalistic look of Generation I Pokemon, but I also love the cutesy and/or simplistic look of new Pokemon. This allows for more verity. Had they continued using the Generation I style to design all Pokemon, the Pokemon designs would've gotten boring fast. See Generation II, for example. It followed Generation I's artstyle, and that resulted in the most boring Generation of Pokemon design.

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>>31825543

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>>31826891
>Game Boy had graphical limits
wew lad

lol that bait again

>>31825543
>he likes literally my mom's cat
>he likes an actual seal
>he likes a rock with arms and a face
>he doesn't like the samurai
>he doesn't like the ancient psychic golem
>he doesn't like the haunted sarcophagus
wew lad

>>31825543
All of his points are subjective and based on opinions, so I don't agree.

>>31825655
Gorilla arm dragons

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>>31827937
>he likes literally my mom's cat
>he likes an actual seal

>>31828223
a real life creature, such as rocks, plants, and dragons.

>>31828223
Considering how many digimon are humanoid, that image doesn't really work and never did.
I also don't understand why complex designs are inherently seen as bad for monsters.

>>31828223
>not wooper

>>31826019
>underage
Friendly reminder that Diamond and Pearl has been released over 10 years ago

>>31827056
>Charizard standing on the ground
Fake

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>>31828332
>those "people" are now adults

>>31828418
In seven months, people born after September 11th will be old enough to vote.

>>31825661
>Based mr popo from DBZ reference nigger in gen1
>Turned to purple faggot in later gens
What's your point?

>>31828332
Reminder that Johtoddlers and Genwunners are unironically 30 year olds playing a game rated for 7 year olds.

>>31828223
Even in the example you gave, it still doesn't defend persian or dewgong. Persian is pretty much a normal cat in a cartoon style with a gem on it's forehead. Dewgong is a little better, but it's just a white seal with a horn. That's it, nothing else. Mudkip is a salamander yes, but it's blue, it's got orange gills, it's got a big fin on its head and a sail for a tail. There's a lot more to it than just, "a blue salamander"

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>>31825543
gen 1s sprites were full of badass stances

>>31828472
You live in Austria or something?

>>31828490
>thinking there's an age limit to having fun
I see you're already dead.

>>31828560
>Not using the RB Miley cyrus Golbat sprite

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Personally I do think that kanto generally did have better designs. Having said that I feel pokemon has held a very high standard for their designs. Every gen has its great and poorer designs. I find it weird people sight things like muk, magneton, and dugtrio as lazy, those are some of my favorites.

Personally if I had to rank them I would go in this order.
1. Alola
2. Kanto
3. Unova
4. Hoenn
5. Johto
6. Kalos
7. Sinnoh

That isn't to say Alola has only perfect designs or that Sinnoh has only bad designs I just feel that Alola has the overall greatest amount of great new designs and that Sinnoh has had the weakest showcase yet.

>>31828490
Even if you were 7 and in Japan when Red/Green released you wouldn't be 30 yet.

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>>31828627
Better?

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>>31825543
>cofagrigus
>overdesigned

it's a sarcophagus with arms, i don't understand

>>31825543
>how is haxorus a dragon? It doesn't even have wings.

Neither do dratini and dragonair, which don't even have limbs.
I don't care if it was meant to be bait, whoever did this image should die.

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>>31827206
vibrava and yanmega might be

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>>31826047
>it's about making the series not feel so blatantly divided.
A new unrelated design needs to feel similar to an old unrelated design? This is the worst logic I've ever read.

>>31825927
If I didn't know what Incineroar looks like, I'd have serious difficulties understanding his physiognomy by looking at this sprite.

So it might actually be a RB original sprite.

>>31828503
>Mudkip is a salamander

oh boy, fuck you

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>>31829051
>unrelated
When you're gonna put them on the same game, how the fuck are they unrelated?

Flechlinder doesn't even looks like it's from the same game as Pidgey.

>>31828267
Not most OG Digimon, which is what this image is really about. Most people don't remember any Digimon after Season 1.

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>>31829130
Do you realize that Hotoot already looks a lot more cartonish than Pidgey, you mongoloid?
Ironically the most realistic one is Pidove, who looks almost exactly like a real pidgeon.

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>People not understanding that Pokemon designs are more represenative of the hardware they're on and the tastes of Japanese kids around the time of release
>People not understanding that they're not actual "law of Pokemon design" manual that they've just been refusing to use
>People not understanding that there's never been a single designer for Pokemon designs. Ever
>People not realizing they have the option to just play the games with the designs they like the best and not play anything outside that.

>>31829203
Kill yourself you fucking retard. How dense someone has to be to see that Hoothoot's based on a clock? Any animal that has a fucking clock in its design will look different. What's Fletchlinder's excuse?

>Ironically the most realistic one is Pidove, who looks almost exactly like a real pidgeon.
Ironically, nobody talked about realism besides you.

>>31829327
many faggots who say "muh pidgey" because new birds look different point how how "realistic" it is.

>How dense someone has to be to see that Hoothoot's based on a clock?
so what? it already looks completely different from pidgey. kys

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>>31829130
Unrelated as in pokemon species. They're SUPPOSED TO look different from each other when compared. I don't understand why people feel so flustered of recent designs feeling so different. Aren't they SUPPOSED to feel different for being NEW? Isn't that the intention for what NEW designs are supposed to convey? I fail to see how people would complain about aesthetic shifts without being nostalgic for the previous designs.


>Flechlinder doesn't even looks like it's from the same game as Pidgey.
Yet Psyduck(a cartoony duck with nonexistent detail and cartoon proportions) and Farfetche'd (a more realistic duck with proportions of it's inspiration) are fine despite being introduced in the same gen? Can you just accept that this type of logic is flawed and is pointless to be argued?

>>31829130
None of them look like they're from the same game, because they're not.

Each generation is a reinterpretation of the Pokemon concept. The only reason why kept letting you transfer Pokemon between generations is a hold over from Gen 2 and is a great sales booster.

>>31829385
>The only reason why kept letting you transfer Pokemon between generations is a hold over from Gen 2 and is a great sales booster.

This. I honestly doubt I'd buy any new game if I had to drop all previous monsters.

I'm not being nostalgic; the first generation was the best in every single way. People don't realize that because most know the games through those crappy Gen III rehashes that ruined it.

"B-but bettah graphics!"? Guess what! Those were amazing back in my day, and forced the design to be as simple as possible! That's why you see elegance in the original 151 like Charizard (still the best starter), but only unoriginal crap in the later generations.

Older species had lore and legends behind them, even being animal-like. And this was cool, not the "muh inanimate objekt!" garbage as Klink, Klefki, Litwick, Vanilluxe (WTF are ice cream cones supposed to mean?) those new graphics allowed. This garbage is not real Pokémon, IT'S SIMPLY GARBAGE! Anything created besides Red, Blue and Yellow is garbage, NOT REAL POKEMONS! Specially Garbodor (objective proof GF run out of ideas and accepts even literal trash) and that Goomy thing (if that snail is a dragon, then I'll put a HIC SVNT DRACONES sign in my garden...).

Then people point out newer designs like Pakiriceyou and say "oh look dis1 not inanimate! Its kool rite?". Sorry - since GF is running out of ideas, Parshirisu is just yet another unoriginal species, a Pikachu rip-off. Since Pikachu sells so much, they're eager to create those: Pichu, Minusle, Plusle, Dedenne... rip-offs. And poor three true Eeveelutions - how many rip-offs did they get? Five or six, I guess? (Even if they weren't rip-offs, enough is enough.)

"B-but moar is always bettah rite?" - well, no. Enough is enough. Too many irrelevant species, too many new mechanics: breeding, nature, abilities... and what the piece of sh_t are those mega evolutions? POKEMONS ARE SUPPOSED TO EVOLVE ONCE OR TWICE, NOT THRICE! But hey, if you want to do random stupid math instead of playing the game, I guess that is fine for you, right?

At least the anime is still cool, right? Right??? ...no, not even Misty saved herself. (Everybody wants her back including me.)

>>31829467
Omg kys

>>31829467
I just lost thousands of brain cells from reading this.

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>>31829467
That's some spicy new pasta.

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>>31829467
I always thought the whole Genwunner thing was just a meme people who really liked Gen 3 made up. Until now.

Did fucking Christ-chan write this?

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pic is the only good thing about gen 1.

>>31829467
>"I'm not being nostalgic"
>Complete biased statement how Gen 1 was the best

>>31829467
I'm not being nostalgic; the third generation was the best in every single way. People don't realize that because most know the games through those crappy Gen VI rehashes that ruined it.

"B-but bettah graphics!"? Guess what! Those were amazing back in my day, and forced the design to be as simple as possible! That's why you see elegance in the original 386 like Blaziken (still the best starter), but only unoriginal crap in the later generations.

Older species had lore and legends behind them, even being animal-like. And this was cool, not the "muh inanimate objekt!" garbage as Klink, Klefki, Litwick, Vanilluxe (WTF are ice cream cones supposed to mean?) those new graphics allowed. This garbage is not real Pokémon, IT'S SIMPLY GARBAGE! Anything created besides Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald is garbage, NOT REAL POKEMONS! Specially Garbodor (objective proof GF run out of ideas and accepts even literal trash) and that Goomy thing (if that snail is a dragon, then I'll put a HIC SVNT DRACONES sign in my garden...).

Then people point out newer designs like Pakiriceyou and say "oh look dis1 not inanimate! Its kool rite?". Sorry - since GF is running out of ideas, Parshirisu is just yet another unoriginal species, a Minun rip-off. Since Minun sells so much, they're eager to create those: Pichu, Plusle, Dedenne... rip-offs. And poor five true Eeveelutions - how many rip-offs did they get? three or four, I guess? (Even if they weren't rip-offs, enough is enough.)

"B-but moar is always bettah rite?" - well, no. Enough is enough. Too many irrelevant species, too many new mechanics: Z-moves, characteristics... and what the piece of sh_t are those mega evolutions? POKEMONS ARE SUPPOSED TO EVOLVE ONCE OR TWICE, NOT THRICE! But hey, if you want to do random stupid math instead of playing the game, I guess that is fine for you, right?

At least the anime is still cool, right? Right??? ...no, not even May saved herself. (Everybody wants her back including me.)

>>31829737
>a Minun rip-off. Since Minun sells so much
This doesn't quite work.

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>>31829637
Is Chris Chan even a genwunner?

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>>31829737

Gen 1 is probably one of the worst generations of Pokemon. Shit sprites (Golbat, mew and machop) to name a few), glitches (moves that don't work the way they're supposed to), bad AI (lemme just use barrier to beat you), it punishes you for picking the wrong starter (Brock, misty, lt surge, etc) and fucks balance right out of the window (psychic types, dratini line). Try replaying red or blue and see how far you get without looking up a guide. Seriously, genwunners need to fuck off with there "gen 1 is the best" shit and realize that in order to move forward we must leave the past behind. Let's focus on making future Pokemon games better rather than circlejerking over gen 1.

>>31829467
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/search/text/%22i%27m%20not%20being%20nostalgic%22%20%22the%20first%20generation%22/
Your pasta is getting stale famalam

>>31829467
I don't post here often but fuck you.

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>>31829467
i don't know if i should laugh or cry

>>31829737
This is now a pasta
>>31830096

>>31829873
You can get a grass and ground type before Misty and Surge.

>>31829796
I don't think so, he likes Primarina.

>>31828267
>Humans are not real life creatures

>>31830306
i wonder why..

>>31829737
>>31829467
To has the potential of becoming the /vp/ version of the harry potter pasta on /tv/.

>>31829467
2 gen...erations

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>>31825543
I can cherrypick too.

>>31829467
I'm really getting tired of these underage sinnohfetuses falseflags. Also stop this meme that early designs were simpler just for the gb technical limits, Sugimori always admitted he himself prefers simple design.

>>31830353
Which one?

>>31830362
I love that sprite. It's the reason I am such a fan of Golbat.

>>31825726
It's a good mix now imo, never had a problem with this either.

>>31830433
The gen 1 one. It's easily adaptable, as the HP one.

>Dislikes Regigias

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>>31825543
Sprites, Artowrk, and Designs are all cherrypicked examples. It doesn't take into account that Pokemon aren't static images anymore. They actually animate and junk, which gives them plenty of personality. The artwork still looks great, and it's not even gonna matter unless you're busting out your old issues of Nintendo Power to go with your game. There were garbage designs in gen 1, and there are fantastic designs in the later gens. You can not convince me that Mr. Mime and Jynx are good designs. Even some of the examples given, like Geodude and Dewgong, are lame. Under-designed, really. All the generations are hit and miss. Also Cofagrigus is a fantastic looking pokemon. I don't even see what there is to complain about with natures and abilities. It helps give pokemon some flavor for casual play and helps deepen a pokemons possibilities for competitive.

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>>31825927

This thread is so autistic that it no longer belongs on this website.

>>31829126
It's half axolotl half mudskipper. Okay?

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>>31825927
LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHIN

>>31834141
This, I unironically think Chandulure looks better than any gen 1 pokemon.

>>31830353
harry potter pasta?

>31829467
Please do not overfeed this fag. Give your (You)s directed at him to me instead

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>>31829467
>I'm not being nostalgic
>the first generation was the best
pick one

>>31825942
>Lilligant's only coverage move would be Dream Eater
Don't do this man.

>>31827741
>Using guns isn't better than throwing rocks
>There was just less technological advancements is all
Just because there's a reason they're shit, doesn't mean they're not shit

This thread is inciting gen wars which I'm pretty sure is banned

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>>31836881
Check the genwar bingo

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>>31825543
>>31826019
>>31826121
>>31827937
>>31828503
>>31829467
>>31829737
>>31834141
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>>31826047
Why don't you go to a different continent then complain how the animals look different and how its makes the world feel devided

>>31836922
I think this needs to be updated to have models vs sprites as one of the one of the boxes

>>31836962
Not enough replies in the other thread? Heres one. I like a lot of Yo Kai designs. Pompadours are cool.

>>31829873
>punished with Brock, Misty, and Lt. Surge
What are Butterfree, Bellsprout/Oddish, and Diglett?

If anything, the first 4 gyms are pretty much handed to you. ESPECIALLY Surge, since Diglett Cave is right next to his gym.

>>31825543
Riddle me this people that defend this post, Gyarados is supposedly modeled after a Chinese dragon which gives him the pass for his design...but Emboar being modeled after Zhu Bajie and having the design he has is unacceptable and is trash. Biased much? Or is it just rehashing the same tired logic time and time again that has made people lose touch with reality?

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>>31837016
Got rid of the pokemon wearing clothes argument,

>>31837098
I don't think tailsposter targets genwar threads anymore either. So an extra space to update if anyone has anything to add there, go for it.

>>31825543
>How is Haxorus a Dragon? It doesn't have wings.
>Meanwhile Gyarados is a chinese Dragon, which doesn't have wings either

>>31829467
>"B-but bettah graphics!"? Guess what! Those were amazing back in my day, and forced the design to be as simple as possible!
No, the graphics weren't amazing. Pokemon has always been way behind graphically, and you had games released on GB before it that looked better. I could give a pass for GSC because the use of the color for the different periods of the day are good, but that's it.

>Older species had lore and legends behind them, even being animal-like.
They still do though.

>not the "muh inanimate objekt!" garbage
What are Voltorb and Magnemite line then? Also Grimer / Muk are litteraly animate sludge.

>And poor three true Eeveelutions - how many rip-offs did they get? Five or six, I guess? (Even if they weren't rip-offs, enough is enough.)
The concept of Eevee is that it can alter its body to the surrounding environment. So of course, the more environment you see, the more eeveelutions there are.

>POKEMONS ARE SUPPOSED TO EVOLVE ONCE OR TWICE, NOT THRICE!
Yet some Pokemon never evolve. Also it was never said that Pokemon evolving max twice was a rule.
And Mega-Evolution is just a temporary evolution. It's like if the Pokemon changed its form.

>At least the anime is still cool, right? Right??? ...no, not even Misty saved herself. (Everybody wants her back including me.)
The anime has always been shit and targeted for children, more than the games. And no, no one wants Misty back, she's a shitty character.

btw 5/10 for the bait made me reply.

>>31825859

>implying that isn't the most beautiful thing you've ever seen

>>31825543
Unfezant is cool as fuck, you mongoloid