>Unova has no popular Pokémon I'm not talking Scrafty/Volcarona

>>31794378
>I'm not talking Scrafty/Volcarona hipster popular, but actual popularity
Seems like you already decided your opinion was right before the debate even started, so I'm not even gonna try.

>Implying Oshawott isn't popular

landorus :^)

>>31794395
Does that need to be implied? Everyone hates that shit thanks to the anime, and its final form is legitimately the worst-designed Pokemon in the series.

>Scrafty
>hipster popularity
I'd also argue that Volcarona isn't popular with hipsters, but rather, it's popular with people that actually know about it. Majority of fans are not aware of its existence.

...which is really why there aren't any really popular Unova mons. They weren't pushed by gf because they were afraid of the controversy, and many genwunners hated them, so they've been selectively ignored. It's pretty sad.

Your pic in the OP is the only one, bar maybe Zoroark and Scrafty and such, that enjoyed any extreme success. It even shows in the Generations episode it was featured in.

IIRC, Stunfisk was a massive hit in Japan. Merch flew off the shelves like crazy. Piplup was pushed way harder, but Stunfisk didn't even have to try and it was a juggernaut.

They even doubled down on the merch and made stuff like bath mats and slippers.

Scraggy is cute. Scrafty is alright.

I dislike that shiny Scrafty makes no sense.

>what is zoroark
sure its not as big as lucario but you cant tell me that there isnt a boatload of porn for it

>>31794416
DESU I'd really enjoy some Zekrom pandering. Gen V feels like the only gen whose breakout mon didn't get pandered to at some point, even Lugia got a bit of publicity during ORAS.

You could probably make an argument for:

>snivy line
>lilligant
>Sandile line
>Zoroark
>Litwick line
>meinshao
>bisharp
>Golette & Golurk
>Meloetta

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>>31794378
>I'm not talking Scrafty/Volcarona hipster popular
>everything about this

>>31794406
Have you not seen that Japan top 100 Pokemon thing?

>>31794378
Good idea, they can't be right if you decide that the right answer is wrong.

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>>31794378
>Golurk
>not loved and adored by all
fite me

>>31794378
>resplendent solar deity moth
>hipster popular

Nice bait, cocksucker.

They don't have any pikachu, lucario, or greninja rivaling ones in that's what you mean. Those usually only happens when nintendo really pushes a pokemon, but I don't think they were really doing that for anything during 5th gen (or 3rd for that matter)
>>31794438
Is zoroark actually popular outsite of furry porn? I feel like I almost never see it

>>31794704
They did it for Zekrom and abandoned it when Mega Charizard X was everything that Zekrom was, and Charizard too.

>>31794719
I don't know. Zekrom was shilled a bit more than Reshiram, with it appearing in the first episode of the BW anime, being Nobunaga's Pokemon in Conquest, and being the main character's power in that shitty Reburst manga. But I don't feel like it was the same level as something like Charizard, Lucario, or Greninja.

>>31794749
It felt like the most popular Pokémon of the reboot, and even got 10th place on an IGN poll (higher than anything from Gens III to IV). There's a reason Edgyzard X is colored the way it is.

>>31794406
>implying \vp\ is everybody.
Have any evidence to show that everyone hates Oshawatt. Because I heard he is pretty liked.

>>31794406
Why's it number 51 in the Japanese poll

>>31794546
THIS I mean he isnt very good but everyone loves him regardless.

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>>31794704
Why the fuck is Lucario even popular REEEEE

>>31794811
Nobody HATES Golurk, but a lot of people IGNORE it. That's the case for most of the good Unova Pokémon.

>>31794765
Might be a regional thing factoring in. I remember Reshiram being voted more popular in Japan most of the time. Not to mention several other Pokemon, like Stunfisk and Chandelure.

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There's a good reason not to talk about Unova.

OP means popular the same way Charizard, Pikachu, and Lucario are.

>>31794870
If the GTS is any indication, Landorus is in ridiculously high demand. I see people grubbing for Lando more than any other of the ridiculous Legendaries that people want.

Is this just my experience or has anyone else noticed it too? Why would Landorus be the most popular?

>>31794870
Zekrom WAS that way during the entirety of Gen V, then dropped off when Mega Charizard X was revealed.

Look, it's a badass black-and-blue dragon with the exact same color scheme! But it has the added gimmick of being an OU form of a fan-favorite Pokémon who everyone wanted to be a Dragon-type!

>>31794879
Because Smogon

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>>31794378

>I'm not talking Scrafty/Volcarona hipster popular, but actual popularity

How to contradict yourself immediately.

>Snivy
>Oshawott
>Gigalith
>Excadrill
>Conkeldurr
>Scolipede
>Whimsicott
>Cofagrigus
>Archeops
>Reuniclus
>Emolga, aka best designed pikaclone, (rivaled by Togedemaru)
>Escavalier
>Accelgor
>Joltik/Galvantula
>Eelektross
>Haxorus
>Chandelure
>Mienshao
>Ultraman- I mean Bisharp
>Hydreigon
>Genesect

Oh look, a bunch of popular Unova favorites.

Try not to start a thread with such a shit opinion.

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>>31794894
God damn it.

t. hardcore Karenfag

>>31794879
Its great competitively, but that doesn't necessarily mean the design itself is popular.

>>31794897
I mean to near Charizard/Mewtwo levels. Zekrom and possibly Reshiram were the only Gen V Pokémon that actually became widely loved beyond diehard Unovabortions.

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>>31794378

>>31794897
see >>31794870
Out of any of those, Chandelure and the starters are probably the only ones people who aren't big fans of the series are likely to recognize.

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What about best fox?

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>>31794943
>Marona
You leave my waifu out of this.
>tfw NIS will make Disgaea ten billion times over before even considering Phantom Brave 2

>>31794953
And Reshiram, Zekrom and Zoroark.
Chandelure is mostly because of Pokkén.

>>31794879
Landorus is strong as hell.

I mean, if we're talking Charizard or Lucario levels of popularity here, there's really not that many. Just Pikachu, Charizard, Mewtwo, Lucario, and Greninja. ie. the Smash Bros Pokemon minus Jigglypuff. Maybe Eevee could be added too.

Gen II and III don't really have Pokemon on that level either. Sure there's popular ones, like Typlosion, Feraligatr, Heracross, Scizor, Suicune, Lugia, Sceptile, Blaziken, Gardevoir, and Rayquaza. But none of those feel like they overshadow the rest of the gen like Lucario, or are pandered when it's not relevant like Genwun Pokemon are, or shilled as hard and fast as Greninja was.

And Gen V is the same way. So I don't get why it's being singled out, except for not having as many Megas or Pokken characters (not that Gen II has the latter either).

>>31794993
I'd argue otherwise.
>Gen II: Lugia overshadows the rest of the gen and is a genwunner favorite
>Gen III: Blaziken and Rayquaza overshadow the rest of the gen
>Gen V: Zekrom once overshadowed the rest of the gen but now Gen V as a whole gets hardly any publicity. If anything, N is the breakout character at this point

>charizard, pikachu, mewtwo
>scizor, suicune
>gardevoir
>lucario
>LMAO
>greninja
>mimikyu
Really stimulates my brain prostate.

I wouldn't mind a bit of shilling for my 2nd favorite mon desu

Honestly, Unova's my favorite region, but I think one of the reasons it's not got any particularly popular Pokémon is because none of them are in Smash

The top 100 Japan poll is shit because most people voted for what they wanted to be distributed and not what they like. Why else would the top be full of random mythicals with shitty Arceus as the 2nd ?

>>31795025
>Charizard, Blastoise, Pikachu, Gengar, Eevee, Mewtwo
>Typhlosion, Scizor, Entei, Lugia
>Blaziken, Gardevoir, Rayquaza
>Lucario, Garchomp
>Zoroark, Reshiram, Zekrom, Genesect
>Greninja
>Decidueye, Mimikyu, Tapu Koko

FTFY

>>31794378
Name one Pokémon not from Gen 1 or 2 that someone who doesn't play Pokémon (or smash) could identify.

>>31795078
Jackie Chan

>>31795078
Mudkip.

>>31795058
None of those unova fakemons are in the same league as Gardevoir.

>>31794938
>Charizard/Mewtwo

Nothing asides from Greninja has ever reached that high in popularity and that was fucking 17 years later

>>31795105
Zekrom was a widely appealing Pokémon. Dragon-types are popular by default, and Zekrom got a lot of love for having the recognizable body shape of a classic dragon but having extra details that make it look ancient, fearsome, cool and unique, like a draconic Darth Vader. It was loved widely enough to get 10th place on an IGN popularity poll shortly after the release of BW, even though the top 10 was mostly genwunner favorites and Rayquaza. With a bit more publicity (and maybe a Smash/Pokkén appearance), it could have continued to at least be Blaziken tier.

>>31795105
I fail to see how Gardevoir is even popular outside of being the pornstar of the franchise.

>>31795185
Go to any animeme convention and count every gworl wearing a Gardevore cosplay outfit.
You'll run out of fingers and toes to count with.

Sure I'll take the bait

Volcarona is cool, fuck you
Bisharp
Scolipede
Jellicent
Haxorus
Starters are alright
Golurk
Main legendary trio
Braviary
Stoutland
Elcetross
Galvantula
Sawsbuck

Others that I can't think of

It did have sub par fossils tho

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>>31795032
forgot pic

>>31795235
I like Carracosta

>>31794857
fucking barneyfags

>>31795235
>>31795058
Stretching the definition of popularity, aren't we?

>>31795235
fuck you, Archeops is the best fossil mon

>>31795235
>carracosta
>subpar
fuck you

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>>31795211
Again, probably because of the porn. I'll have to admit though, it's popularity doubled in Gen6 when they gave it a mega and retyped it. Who doesn't want their favorite pornstar with two shiny new toys?

>>31794378
Snivy was literally a meme

>>31795384
That ended when Serperior was revealed as a mono-Grass with a bad movepool and stats and no HA available for 5 years

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>>31794378
Excuse me?

>>31794378
>what is zoroark

>>31795413
A failure that was overshadowed by Zekrom even at the time

>>31794378
>hipster popular
What the fuck does this even mean? Last time I checked, they're definitely on the more popular side out of all the Pokemon out there.

Are you saying that if the Pokemon isn't from Gen 1 or is Lucario/Greninja, it isn't "popular"?

>>31794510
>>31794795
Japs have shit taste, that's not news.

>>31794938

Charizard/Mewtwo levels of popularity? That is the absolute pinnacle of popularity in the franchise. Only Pikachu, Lucario and Greninja could even be considered as being on the same tier.

That's simply pointless to say that "X gen doesn't have any Pokemon as recognizeable as this tiny handful of giga-shilled Pokemon." If that's the case, then gen 2, 3, 5 and 7 are all full of totally forgettable designs.

Pro-tip: they're not.

This thread was fuckin pointless.

>>31794822

good ol' fashioned autism desu

>>31794822
Nintendo shilling it down our throats and it looks like someones furry OC and acts like it

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>>31794938
>feather penis/definition of over designed
>liked

>>31794378
Not liking
>Victini
>Serperior
>Emboar
>Samurott
>Stoutland
>Swoobat
>Excadrill
>Audino
>Leavanny
>Scolipede
>Whimsicott
>Lilligant
>Krookodile
>Darmanitan
>Maractus
>Crustle
>Scrafty
>Sigilyph
>Cofagrigus
>Carracosta
>Archeops
>Zoroark
>Cinccino
>Gothitelle
>Reuniclus
>Swanna
>Vanilluxe
>Sawsbuck
>Emolga
>Escavalier
>Jellicent
>Galvantula
>Ferrothorn
>Klinklang
>Eelektross
>Chandelure
>Haxorus
>Beartic
>Cryogonal
>Accelgor
>Stunfisk
>Mienshao
>Druddigon
>Golurk
>Bisharp
>Braviary
>Mandibuzz
>Hydreigon
>Volcarona
>Virizion
>Reshiram
>Zekrom
>Kyurem
>Keldeo
>Meloetta
>Genesect

>>31795702
>Emboar
Your argument is invalid

>>31795702
><> J

>>31794416
>Majority of fans are not aware of its existence
How can you play B/W and not be aware of Volcarona? There was that whole special quest to get it in that cave and everything.

>>31795235
>starters are alright
>golurk
>jellicent
>cover legendaries
>bambi

nice bait

>>31795754
Postgame.
Most people were focused on getting the giant legendary dragons instead of a less assuming moth.

>>31794879
Landorus and every pokemon in that set are fucking hideous.

>>31794897
>conkeldurr
>hydreigon
>popular or even good design
is this the birth of a new maymay?
nevermind, noticed the reddit man guzma pic, everything came together

>>31795767
But postgame is literally the best part of pokemon, especially as a kid.

>>31795783
you are such a retard holy fuck

>>31795783
Conkeldurr looks dumb sure but Hydreigon has top tier aesthetics.

>>31795783
Hydreigon is popular though. It's simply designed (similar to Charizard), it's vicious and powerful, its extra heads don't have minds of their own and make it more of an "individual" than a disturbing set of conjoined triplets, and it was the first Dark/Dragon in the series.

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because the designs in unova are terrible.

watch pokemon generations, when it gets to unova you can just tell shit got retarded and the battles look no where near as cool

>>31795798
>still forcing this maymay
get over it, it's shit
>>31795815
>amputee legs aesthetics
>shit stripes on spheric body
>terrible colors
>flower had
>>31795817
popular among underage edgelords, i can give you this

>>31795862
>cherrypicking

What is gigalith reuniclus scolipede galvantula and OUR MOST PRECIOUS CRUSTLE?

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>>31795877
>cherrypicking

fuckoff, if you aren't brain dead you would see the general design change gamefreak made to make pokemon merchandise easier to make. pokemon tend to look like toys now rather than actual creatures.

look at druddigon then any dragon from the earlier gens for fucks sake

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>>31795877

>>31795870
>he posted one image so everything after it is invalid
how about you get over yourself?

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Maractus is cute as a button and I would dance with her always

>>31795900
Because there were never any pokemon before that looked like toys

>what is cleffa

>>31795938
Screw that, what is PIKACHU

>>31795938
now you are the retard who is cherrypicking

the point is a critique of design, not "B-BUT CLEFFA LOOKS KINDA LIKE A TOY"

>>31794406
I unironically love Oshawott and its entire line

>>31795956
There have always been "toy-like" pokemon and more creature-like pokemon.

Gen 1 will always be worst-designed overall.

>>31795944
the only reasonable post in this entire thread

>>31795900
fuck off with your generation shitflinging, that's nothing to do with the topic at hand

/vp/ rule 4

>>31795900
Most of this is just complaining about a relatively mild difference in artstyle.

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>>31795862
>detailed shading

Fuck no. Look at how flat those tones are.

Keldeo's shading isn't even that great but Ponyta's tonal range is fucking garbage.

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>>31795944
notice how pikachu has detailed fingers and toes and linework even though these are both electrical mice?

hell you can't even tell the types by looking at pokemon anymore

>>31796002
can you really not tell that the horse on the left looks much less cartoony and would be much harder to draw 1:1 then the horse on the right?

are you some kind of idiot?

>>31796002
This. The shading is pretty much exactly the fucking same in either gen, the new ones just look slightly cleaner because they're more modern.

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HA HA Time for these images.

>>31796028
>he talks about the shading
>move goalpost to the anatomical design when he did not comment on it

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>>31796029
>more modern
you mean more cartoony as shit looking and less like actual creatures so merch can be made easier?

every new pokemon has pokedoll syndrome where they have to be as cutesy as shit or cool as shit. they can't look like natural creatures anymore

Unova is the best region. Fight me. :)

>>31796004
>>31796002
>>31795900
>>31795862
Not this /v/ Shit again

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>>31796061
>posts gen 1 sprites
>not even remotely understanding the design argument about detail/linework that made pokemon look like toys are fighting other toys

>>31795900
The designs are more anatomically realistic but whoever made this image does not know the meaning of the word "complex". No pokemon design is terribly complex here.

>>31796061
>I AM SILLY

>>31796084
People don't understand how good Gen 5 designs are. They think they're just dumb cause they're not Gen 1 but Gen 1 is the worst region. Why do people like Just a Frog/Dragon/Turtle anyway? Weedle looks like it has nipples and Pikachu looks really dumb and we need a dumb version of Pikachu every generation.

>>31795900
The gen 1 designs are definitely more anatomically realistic but whoever made this image doesn't know what the word "detailed" means.

>>31796087
>these pictures don't look complex
do you have autism or are you just pretending to be an idiot

>>31796076
You can't mention gen 5 without going full /v/ mode, for some reason

>>31796116
They're not. Gen 1 looks nothing like real animals which is why they're so bad.

mfw this entire thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz2Fz0OO8ag

>>31796062
>he wants pokemon to look like natural creatures
But why? We already have those in real life.

>>31796124
Ironically, you can't mention gen 1 without the same effect here. It's funny how the two most cancerous sides of the fanbase hate each other with a burning passion.

>>31795401
True, but the simple fact that it *WAS* a meme outweighs that.

>>31796100
>>31796084
I didn't make these. I really don't care that much about the design since I enjoy the games, have enjoyed them except gen 4 (and gen 5 which I skipped), and will in all likelihood continue to enjoy them without feeling any need to justify or defend my positions or opinions. I just think the images are funny.

Someone else posted the last I've got though:
>>31796109

Anyone got some similar shit? It's gold.

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>>31796111
no. people like old gen designs because the art design was more "realistic" for anime creatures and they didn't all look like plastic toys

>>31796167
None of those look anything like a real Pokemon.

>>31796109
i don't think you understand anon, no one is insulting what the pokemon are based off of. we are insulting HOW they are designed. older gen pokemon came off as more realistic because of the linework and realistic anatomy. Newer pokemon look extra cartoony and toonified

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>>31796132
Are you blind?

the thing on the right looks like a fucking cartoon character and the one on the left looks way better drawn

>>31796159
>tfw odd-numbered gens are my favorite
>tfw this shit

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>>31796193
>How dare this franchise that is over 20 years old undergo changes in its design philosophy!

>posted from my Windows 95 Ast Advantage! over dial-up connection

When it gets down to it, really, just ask yourself: Am I having fun? If so, continue. If not, discard.

This really isn't that difficult. I don't understand where all the arguments are coming from or why others get upset. But then again, not being able to understand that kind of thing is a pretty defining characteristic of autism, which I've got, so maybe it comes as no surprise.

>>31795900
Two things, 1) Character design is 100% if the design is meant to be 3d instead of 2d, Gen 6 is overall a lot better for 3d models and this is also why some pokemon look like shit in 3d. 2) Those comparisons don't even make sense, Sandshrew is way better for toys then Chespin, same with Ponyta, machoke, eevee, and cubone

>>31796216
Urasring looks retarded. What kind of bear has a rabbit tail and a big dumb oval snout and a dumb target circle on his stupid belly?

>>31796233
imo you sound like the most reasonable and levelheaded member of this argument so far so no worries

>>31796062
>Those gen 5 plushes aren't chibi
Nigga look at Genesect. and Fucking bulbasaur is exactly on model.

>>31796084
Yeah if I made a watercolor Rowlett and showed it to someone who'd never seen the artwork before, I guarantee i could convince them that it was a design from gen 1. That's the thing autists like you don't get. If a person ahs not played pokemon, they would see literally no difference in generation designs. they would juts see Pokemon.

>>31796216
The one on the left looks a little confused desu

>>31796167
All those designs are good tho. Would waifu nu-Magnemite.

>When Alola forms were introduced they were all more detailed than their original counterparts
>GF doesn't do detailed designs anymore

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>>31795900
>HURR YOU'RE RETARDED IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH ME
>posts even more cherrypicking

>T-The gen 1 designs were so realistic!
Dragonite
Snorlax
Any of the oddish line
literally over half of the original gen 1 dex is cartoonish. Genwunners get over yourselves

>>31796679
these pokemon still had complex linework and did a good job of depicting what they were supposed to be, they don't look like fucking chibi toys. plus nearly every new pokemon suffers from this problem while in older gens its only a few

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>>31796733
>Complex linework
?

>>31796076
>can't prove the opposite
>better derail with /v/ accuses
top jej

>>31794378
>Everything I don't like is hipster

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>>31796807
yes.

are you blind?

pic related, a dragon pokemon without it.

since you are probably blind i will point out: look at dragonites wings, notice how they look like actual wings? now look at this abominations "wings"

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>>31796843
he's right and you know it, I thought /vp/ was supposed to be the containment board

>>31796864
>>31796807
one of these looks like it could be an actual mystical creature (albeit a goofy one). the other looks like a fucking badly drawn cartoon a 14 year old would make

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>people who don't know shit about art try to talk about art
Stop talking at any time.

>>31796883
solid argument

>>31796938
I hope you are referring to the morons who are saying pokemon designs didn't get cartoonier over the years, if not then you are the one who should stop talking anytime

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Seeing as this is a thread for designs I'm interested, anyone else here feel alola has the best designs yet? I used to say kanto followed closely by unova but alola just wowed me with so many designs. I had actual trouble making my team since there were so many new pokemon I wanted to use. I really feel thye went all out and created the best new roster yet. Only designs I feel are really unappealing this gen are tsareena and bruxish.

>>31797213

There are several posts here that contradict your rehashed argument, genwunner faggot.

>>31794378
wasn't gen 5stupid popular over in japanland?

I remember hering that tynamo and stunfish were memes, and then those two train guys popular somehow and it was the first time they tried to do a real story.

I think the gen 5 hate mostly comes from the west and mainly by people who hadn't played since gen 1/2

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>>31797333
nope, this has nothing to do with being a genwunner this has to do with understanding BASIC DESIGN ELEMENTS

fuck what the pokemon are based off of or whatever is on their bodies, i'm simply pointing out HOW THEY ARE DRAWN DIFFERENTLY NOW, the fact you think they are exactly the same proves you are an idiot

>>31797416
this level of cynicism is how we know you are from /v/

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>>31797416
for example, do you see snivy's feet? never in older gens would starter pokemon feet be so simplistic looking. the fingers are just basic shapes as well.

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>>31797427
it's not cynicism it's just pointing out a fact that too many people here are way too delusional and autistic to understand. you can't even CRITICIZE pokemon on here without autistic sperglords who have objectively been blown out calling you a genwunner and saying "its exactly the same design"

OLDGEN:
>detailed, more realistic anatomy
>simple colors with use of some blending
>pokemon with more physical details have less colors

NEW GEN:
>simplified, toylike anatomy
>many colors with no blending gives a plasticy look to most pokemon
>almost no balance of colors vs. physical features proving the designers are retarded. many pokemon even have a combination of both.
>for example tyrantrum almost passes but has gold randomly placed everywhere instead of simplified

>>31797427
>please don't criticize things i like, i'm an idiot and can't understand that adults can like something and still point out flaws with it. everything is perfect in my mind

>>31797462
>>31797454
>It's cartoony because MUH MARKETING GAS THE KIKES XDD
take your fucking (you) and leave already

>>31794378
Oshawott
Zoroark

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>>31797454
It's almost like art styles and what jives with modern audiences shifts over time, resulting in creators having to adapt to the times in order to market their work. Really makes you go hmmm.

>>31797474
It's almost like people can still prefer older styles over newer styles regardless of what the modern audience desires.

>>31797496
That's called nostalgia, gramps. Do you really want to go the Fire Emblem route and stick to your elitist ways to the point where your franchise almost dies off?

>>31797474
or its almost like this is objectively bad and lazy design work that ruins the feel of the series just so gamefreak can make merchandise easier? hmmm?

but yeah lets go with your thing so we can convince ourselves everything ever done is amazing forever. you must be one of those people who think the national dex wasn't in sun/moon "to stop hackers and give us a better gaming experience to discover the regional dex pokemon!"

>>31797503
nigga im just pointing out pokemon designs are cartoonier toylike and less detailed/anatomically correct than they were before and for a fighting monster game thats not a good thing, unless you have shit brains and lack taste of course

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I will never, ever understand why this board is so obssesed with Pokemon other people like.

>>31797503
I'd prefer it to have died than have shit on the level of Fates to get greenlit ever again, and my first FE was Awakening, damaged caused by the level of pandering in Fates cannot be undone

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>>31797471
why do you think old pokemon merchandise always looked so offputting and was hard to make? now every pokemon is designed so its super easy to make plushes of them that look 1:1, its a benefit to the simpler linework and designs

>>31797543
yes, thanks for proving my point by using merchandising as an argument, dipshit

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>>31797503
its not nostalgia at all you retard its a fact

>>31797551
that's not a good thing though, as people with taste and brains we shouldn't want things dumbed down or ruined just so its "easier on the devs."

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>>31797553
>shitty fanart constitutes as a counterargument on /vp/ now
what the fuck happened to this board?

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>>31797538
It's more or less fact that genwunners and unovabortions are more self-righteous than any other type of fan.

I unironically like Throh

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>>31797561
>fan art
>still not understanding the argument about how detail is butchered for toylike anatomy and simplistic design

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>>31797510
It's almost like people have differing opinions. You like one thing, he likes another. Arguing further is a waste of time, as neither party will change their minds.

Many like to claim "muh objectivity" in terms of the art design, and I will concede that it is quite likely that on the whole, there is a general trend towards cartoonyness. However, it is purely opinion whether or not that's a bad thing. You say it's bad, others say it's just fine. Trying to discuss further than establishing your opinions and reasons for that opinion is an exercise in futility for both sides.

>>31797590
>still not understanding that design philosophies are bound to change over the span of 20 years

>>31797590
birds on left look like they could be real birds, birds on right look like cartoons

/thread

>>31797607
yeah no shit they changed, i just don't understand why you are saying "UHM STUFF CHANGES SOMETIMES, DEAL WITH IT LOL" as an excuse as to why something becoming bad is a good thing or somehow justified

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>>31797622
I'd rather "DEAL WITH IT LOL" than go out of my way to blame capitalism for changes like a cynical fuck

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>>31797607
>if the style changes with the times then it's allowed to be shitty
Oh, I get it now.

pic related changed with the times, too. I suppose it's a contemporary modern masterpiece according to your logic.

>>31797650
>the change in pokemon's artstyle over the years is anywhere near being that bad
nice strawman

>>31797650
>went from being a cute cartoony style to super detailed

In the logic of the genwunners doesn't that mean it's vastly improved?

>>31797578
Simisage is one of my top favorite grass types and I like Simisear quite a bit. Simipour is ok.

>>31797662
I don't even dislike the new art style, I'm just saying that the other anon's justification as to why one can only prefer the older artwork due to nostalgia is flat out retarded. Things change, and that's fine. There are reasons as to why nothing will stay the same. But to claim that something is objectively superior because it has some timely justification is pure bullshit, as is the claim that people are incorrect in their preference of previous designs.

>>31797710
When the fuck did I ever imply one artstyle was superior to the other

>>31797639
capitalism is shit and so is bad design

>>31797714
Obviously there's no way of telling if it's you in particular, but see >>31797503

The post implied that the only reason someone could possibly think that the older designs look better is because of nostalgia, thus stating that modern designs are superior.
>responded in less than a minute
I'm just going to make my way out of this thread because it's clear you're some dedicated bait artist or you're just glued to your computer screen and fueled by shitposting.

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>>31797650
IT CHANGED WITH THE TIMES SO ITS GOOD. ITS BEEN 20 YEARS DESIGNS EVOLVE!

Honest question for those who are anti-new gen: Do you ever get tired? Like, do you ever ask yourselves "what's the point" in repeating the same tired out arguments again and again? Do you ever have something better to do than to wait in the shadows for a topic like this to show up so you can shove your hatred of everything new down our throats?

>>31797753
Do you really want to die on the same hill as Chris-Chan?

>>31797764
>anti-new gen

how is pointing out how pokemon designs changed and became cartoonier mean you are anti-new gen? it's just an objective fact this happened and a bunch of autistmos are yelling "UR JUST NOSTALGIC".

>>31797784
are genwunners in denial the hot new /vp/ meme?

>>31797779
as if i give two shits about sonic. im just making a point that "its been 20 years" is not an argument

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>>31797510
>objectively

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>>31794378
Forgetting someone, OP?

>>31794857

Gen 5 happened before MLP