>The opposing Salamence's Salamencite is reacting to

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I know right! How dare they use a mega that the game gave them full access to! It shouldn't be aloud!

>>31793031

how about you stop being retarded and run an appropriate counter/check?

>>31793282
God gave me the ability to kick you in the dick but you don't see me doing it

>>31793031
>anon's feverent wish reached Rayquaza!

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>>31793031

>>31793301
Thats actually a really good argument for using being an ass/cheating

>>31793299
>Mega-Mence
>Counters
??

>>31793031
Yeah I agree they're big faggots, I'm 1450 because of them

>>31793329
>greninja used ice beam
>it's super effective
>mega salamence died permanently and forever
Get. Fucking. Good.

just use mega aggron with hp ice lmoa

>>31793302
>feverent
Daily reminder that /vp/ is I L L I T E R A T E .

>>31793339
>Greninja switching into Salamence and surviving.

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>>31793329

>>31793339
>counter
greninja can't switch into mence at all.

>>31793355
>>31793358
Maybe if you're shit and can't predict.

>>31793355
>>31793366

>counter

no

greninja is a check

big difference retards

>>31793366
>switch into dragon claw
>get btfo
>switch into double edge
>get btfo
>switch into dragon dance
>hahahahaha
greninja only forces it out when it can be sent in safely, so it is just a check

>>31793356
Only Arceus Fairy is an actual counter so make sure you always carry Arceus Fairy, OP.

>>31793420

>how about you stop being retarded and run an appropriate counter/check?
>counter/check?
>check?

>>31793356
>just use the SSS+ primal groudon
>just sack one of your pokemon to stop it
>just use an obscure super specific berry to stop it

The only full stop counter even suggested there is arceus, being forced to sack one pokemon just to cripple the damn thing is not a counter.

>>31793366
Greninja literally can't switch in
He's dead no matter what

>>31793424
I only mentioned counters in my post though.
And the only one happens to be a limited distribution mythical with a very specific set

>>31793434

but we weren't just talking about full stop counters

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> Will o wisp
> Foul Play

>Sneasel used Icy Wind!

>>31793441
+1 252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Facade (140 BP) vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Sableye-Mega: 301-355 (99.3 - 117.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

>>31793440
How is sacking a Pokemon to cripple it a check? How is running an obscure niche berry just to survive one turn against it a check, when it can literally switch out right after it hits and nearly kills the switch in?

>>31793282
>double team

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>>31793366

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>>31793356
>just let it kill half your team and youll be fine
>just use arceus and PDon lmao
>just be sure to sacrifice 500 babies to salamence in order to make it's double edge tear your anus slighty less in comparison

>>31793456
Prankster. And running your Sableye first like a non idiot

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>>31793282
Howdy

>>31793488
Read what Facade does again.

>>31793339
>Greninja
>Outspeeding Megamence
>Being able to switch into megamence at all

Nice "counter"

>>31793356
You know the section is titled Checks and Counters, not Counters.

Use mammoth then

>>31793519
Then it should have counters, not just checks.

>>31793510
In his defense Scarf Greninja was used to check mence for a while so if he switches it in while mence DDs then he can actually nail it with ice beam but it's a pretty long shot.

>>31793524
240 Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 44 HP / 0 Def Salamence-Mega: 270-328 (78.9 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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>>31793031
My defensive milotic with no special attack investement can oneshot with icebeam, get fucking good

>>31793560
0 SpA Milotic Ice Beam vs. 44 HP / 0 SpD Salamence-Mega: 284-336 (83 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>>31793560
>4 SpA Milotic Ice Beam vs. 44 HP / 0 SpD Salamence-Mega: 284-336 (83 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

>+1 252+ Atk Aerilate Salamence-Mega Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Milotic: 297-351 (75.3 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

>>31793571
>>31793576
Actually if battlespot
>4 SpA Milotic Ice Beam vs. 44 HP / 0 SpD Salamence-Mega: 152-180 (86.3 - 102.2%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

>>31793576
>>31793571
Competitive boost you dumbfucks

>>31793592
>Sending your intimidate mence into a fucking Milotic.
You were probably playing against a 9 year old.

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>>31793592
+Adrenaline Orb

>>31793592
>Not running marvel scale on a defensive set

>>31793592
Okay, so your shitmon can theoretically OHKO it, but only if they:

A. Have not sent out megamence the entire battle
B. Do not currently have Salamence, mega evolved or not out
C. Are stupid enough to keep in Salamence after seeing the competitive boost and failing to make the basic deduction that water-types usually carry ice moves
D. Milotic has not taken more than 40-50% of its HP in damage

>>31793656
>milotic is a shitmon
dude, what the fuck

Also, I have milotic as a lead in doubles

>>31793690
I don't know about VGC, but in singles, Milotic is certainly a shitmon. Pokemon like Toxapex do its job infinitely better. I can see Milotic being better in doubles with the prevalence of EQ, though.

>>31793488
You burn a Salamence with Facade and you get raped m'lad

>>31793488
>Mega Sableye
>with Prankster

>>31793855
does facade ignore the attack debuff from burn now or something?

>>31793730
>toxapex
I'm not surprised a stallfag considers milotic a shitmon

>>31794205
"Waaaaa he's a stallfag so he is wrong!"

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>>31794297
>he really was a stallshitter

>>31794380
I wasn't that anon though, that was my first post on this thread

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>ITT: HOW TO SPOT SHITTERS 101

M-Mence never gave me a problem
git gud

>>31796017
Teach me your ways