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Gym cup ending soonish edition

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>Quest Rewards
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>FAQs
http://pastebin.com/U26QTvSY

Last thread
>>31764137
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reminder that walking with coking is only "splash"
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i have 75 wins, i hope i can get to the 100 wins by the end of the event
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countdown link


https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/baby?iso=20170216T0459&p0=4429&msg=End+of+Pok%C3%A9mon+Duel+Flying+Gym+Cup&font=sanserif
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>>31776552
>Gallados
fake and gay, gallade isn't even in the game
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>>31776565
I'm at 47, all I want is the 50 wins trophy and Magikarp/Gyarados
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>>31776536
What kind of stuff are you lot getting from gym boosters? Anything good?
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>>31776624
I pulled a Xerneas but that's the only good thing I've gotten also it was a dupe
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>>31776572
i think that bad automated translation meant gyarados
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Finally got a Magikarp. Now I want one more Gyarados so I can level up it's CLvL
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>>31776670
Fuck, I've gotten over 90 wins and I've gotten 5 Magikarps and no Gyarados.
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>>31776624
Nothing. I'm at 46 victories (with Salamence/Lugia as my only birbs) and opened my boosters after each victories (stacking up seemed pointless as the following figures will always be of a rarity lesser or equal to the first one), yet I keep getting C crap. Most of these are starters mid-evos though, so it kind of makes up for it, but still, I expected better
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>>31776757
>opening after every victory
>keep getting commons

gee boss I wonder why
opening early is stupid unless you're trying to get magikarp
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>>31776757
>open after every victory
You're doing it wrong.
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is there a cheap 11 streak team that does not involve birds or infiltrator
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>>31776924
salamence and natu if you're good enough

weaviles if you have those
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>>31776933
I have only mence, no natu (i have its shitty evolution)
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>>31776624
i got a lugia from a 4 streak win and i got an articuno from a ticket booster i won im the gym
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WHERE'S THE PORN OF THE CHICKS
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>>31776624
I got my first ex
>it's mew
>>31776766
I feel like my lucks been better after single victory openings when I was going for streaks it was nothing but commons. It seems like it's random unless you get a xstreak booster guaranteing a uc/r or higher
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>>31776947
You've still got your spearow right? It's like a mini mence with a greater fly away chance. Damage is shit and it has a high miss chance meanings it's a 50/50 fly or die, but to be honest mences damage ain't that great either especially when it's up against all these birds and boosted ice types
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>1000 gems
You'd think for 10 gems it wouldn't be that good.

...Why are we waiting for sexpacks again?
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>>31776985
this game isn't worth playing until there's finally porn of the girls
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Finally got an 11 win streak! The Water trophy is glorious. Got an Aggron from the booster. Is it any good in the current event or in general?
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>>31777331
Supposedly Aggron is currently broken as shit due to an oversight where the timer does NOT spin while it's spinning.

By the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_cSkfBcTC4
>tfw no Pokemon duel music to listen to
we need the music, some of it is good and it changes depending on battle background (which itself depends on: campaign's hotel, gym's streak and match's league)
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>>31777363
does NOT stop*

i cannot into words
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>>31777363
>Supposedly Aggron is currently broken as shit due to an oversight where the timer does NOT spin while it's spinning.

matt stop
thats not true
the anon was just retarded and never attacked the aggron when it was waiting for him to
its got nothing to do with the spinner and aggron isnt broken
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>>31777381
>calling anons by name
i thought 4chan is for anonymous
and also trip people
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Healthy meta
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>Fly Away
Is there any move more cancerous than this shit?
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>almost everyone in the top 10 is running Magikarp
Damn these healthy metas.
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>Get RNG'd to death
>"Whatever, it's just a game. I'll get the points back"

>The AI goes rogue on me
>I fly into an autistic rage

Is anyone else like this? There's something infuriating about this cunt throwing away a game that you have a decent chance to win at incredible hihg speeds before you can click 'Stop AI'.

I normally only use the AI when I'm running low on timer so that I can have stalling as a win condition but holy fuck this thing is total cancer
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>>31778261
>try the Carlo meme
>it immediately uses hurdle jump on my Shuppet while ignoring the incoming trap at my goal
Never again.
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>>31778221
Fly
It can go two tiles
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>>31778221
Slippery Swap. It cannot be prevented by blocking goal, other than killing the mon.
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>>31778261
Exact opposite for me. I laugh about it when the AI does something stupid and memetic, like Hurdle Jumping a birb or ghost, but go into autistic tantrum mode when fucked by RNG.
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noice
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>>31778221
>fly away when you can only land between two enemies
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>>31778371
collect your free wins while you can

36 hours left
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Asked in the previous thread, but which ex should i buy with my mats? Lucked out and got a Zapdos, so Greninja or Latios/as? Or save for next gym? Or get a dupe to power my clvl lol?
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>>31778466
Save
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>>31778466
You have the 3 birds, yevtal, ho-oh and lugia.
Save it, you dont need another ex right now
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the gym wouldn't be nearly as annoying if japanese players were separated from everyone else. It's kind of hard for people have only been playing for a month to compete with people who got 15+ Weavile during the past year
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>you can get spearow to be fly away almost half of the time
Don't you like start with this?
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Should I collect immediately after the first win?
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>>31778531
only if you want a magicarp, if not, just collect every time you lose
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>>31778531
if you have brain damage then sure
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>>31778538
I certainly have damaged luck because the moment I have a win the birds of balanced meta show up
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Today I opened a Purple Booster and got a Delphox. Then I rolled 70 gems on the special mission wheel.

Saving for a future sextuple so yay, at 200 now.
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>you can get +110 energy for 10 gems
>excess energy is not wasted
>10 gems
>110 energy
well
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>Move Shuppet to then switch with Metagross.
>Weavile Ice Shards vs Will-o-Wisp.
>Move Leafeon close to enemy goal to switch again.
>Weavile Ice Shards vs Will-o-Wisp.
>Attack Weavile with Charizard.
>Double Taunt vs Fire Spin.
>Opponent's Leafeon moves next to my entry point.
>Move Metagross to attack it.
>Leafeon dodges.
>Leafeon moves to my goal and wins.

How the fuck did these 4 rolls happen all in a row? Why has RNG forsaken me?
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>>31779192
Meant Grass Whistle on the second Ice Shard.
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>>league battle
>>never tried using Carlo
>>fuck it, no harm
>>opponent goes first with shuppet down the middle
>>expecting AI to wreck shit
>>double chance
>>latios
>>meets shuppet and battles
>>will o wisp vs. white
>>fuck
>>screen says "hey good thing you used a double chance!"
>>"would you like to respin???"
>>"Maybe try and get a dodge possibly so you don't get burned on your first turn???"
>>"know what I mean?"
>>"How does that sound Carlo?"
>>Carlos say "naw nigga its cool, ill just take the burn"
>
>the fuck bro. I understand how maybe AI cant make the best decisions all the time everytime on the board. But how is it allowed to make the objectively wrong decision. not the worst out of many different possibilities after taking in many variables, but the absolute wrong choice out of of two possible choices. If you have blue but you spin white against a purple, you respin when given the option. Glad this wasn't on a gym battle.
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>tl;dr - Carlo you idiot
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>match against a guy with a bird and a shuppet
>bird staredown
>starts moving shuppet
>i prepare Natu
>move it to the goal for a kill on the meme ghost
>it fucking lands teleport after a whole two days of not doing so
>fucking leave the goal and let him win

and then one of the figures in my box was my 3rd shuppet, fuck this
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>open a quad
>it's a heap of shit

Well boys, my luck's run out
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>>31779395
The AI is definitely lacking in some areas. It doesn't play Lati@s as if they have Hallucination and just suicides them

t. Latios user
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I can stop playing now right?
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>>31779976
no, keep going for the streak of 11 and more wins

the last prize is at 200 wins
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i seriously hope none of you is called yannick

cause Carlo just baited that Shuppet so fucking hard
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>make triple Greninja/Raikou/Natu/Moltres team
>watch the Ai to see how to use it
>the Ai avoids touching the frogs as much as possible and still wins while sending just Natu alone or with some Moltres help

wow what
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Finally got magikarp and gyarados, and now im wondering, because i never did it before, if i level or clvl magikarp up, does it affect gyarados after evolution in any way?
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>>31780055

no
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>>31777201
sexpacks are not coming back you fucking retard

i told you, it was a one time promotion to get americans caught up to japanese players in terms of ex's.
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meh
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who in their right mind thought giving weavile that ability would be good for this game?

does whoever coded this piece of shit game really want to see teams of 3 fucking weavile every single time?
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>bonus wheel
>ingot x4
>immediately throw iphone
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>>31776536
I like this game but I'm pretty bad at it. I can't even get a win streak above 2 without getting destroyed by players with more powerful figures.
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>>31780253
weren't sexpacks a thing earlier, though?
also
>5 guaranteed EX
>catcihing up
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>some dumbass with two shuppets goes for my entry points
>have gardevoir at my goal, xerneas and salamence on the field
>he switches one of the shuppets with his articuno
>doesn't put anything near his goal
>start rushing it with salamence
>he puts his own salamence in the way
>mine is a higher CLv anyway, but just use a hurdle jump to his goal just to add insult to injury
>his face when his meme team fails him
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Is it just me or is there a bot with Articuno, Pikachu, Leafeon, Electrode, Xatu and Lapras?
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>>31780428
no way
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>>31780421
what does qualify for a meme team anyway
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>>31780458
Anything that can win quickly or easily
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>>31780478
Does Spearow count?
>double chance fly away wins this quickly
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is it worth spending up to 1000 gems to battle more in the flying cup
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>>31776624
3 Gyarados 1 Metagross 1 Weavile. Also Moltres from one of the free tickets

>>31776985
Sharon is better

>>31780644
Yeah sure, why not?
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>>31780702
Forgot image
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>it would be cool to end up in the top 1000 for that trophy
>checks the 999 rank zone, all players at least 2 birb requirements, some with 4 or more

Well fuck me then

>>31780644
>1000 gems
Why would you spend that many? If it's just to open more figures I'd say no and you shouldn't need that much to get the EX cube 150 wins. I've probably spent 100 myself but you win that many in the ladder anyways
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>>31780644
yes.

also whats up with these fucking servers?
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>>31780710
so i can get the 11 streak trophy because i cannot into streak
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>>31780702
Are you opening after streaks or are you opening after each victory?
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From a 3 win streak box ;)
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>>31780943
>latias
>not a legendary bird
It's shit; it has strong attacks and fly away but once it dies you're heavily handicapped.
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Anyone seen a 3000+ rating yet? I matched against a 2911 a couple days back.
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>>31780943
You lucky bastard.
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>current #1 has 3 Magikarp, 2 trio Birbs, and a Shuppet
Meta solved.
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Got my hundred win. Think im done with the event. Currently ranked 200ish, so might just camp there for the silver trophy.
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>use AI
>land fly away
>its stuck
oh my fucking god
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>zapdos
>moltres
>latios
>3 weavile
fuck it, lets try the ai meme

currently it has natu as my goalkeeper on turn 269 and so far natu has knocked out two legendary birds
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>tfw in the 2000 club again

Feels good

inb4 tilt back down to 1800 for a second time
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what's the difference between fly away and teleport
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>Lose multiple times due to shit spin luck
>Just dropped in rank because I couldn't fucking connect

Some real bullshit going on.
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>>31781248
Just lost on my 9th streak. Glad you didn't have a hard time beating me, guy with 10 streaks.
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How do I get lucky?
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>>31776624 I've got Aggron, Keldeo, Mew, and Dialga from 2 Streak Packs, but I still need Gyarados.
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>surround both of opponents entry points with 3 mp mons
>only goalie left on his side
>he refuses to forfeit
>he disconnects so that his time doesnt run down
>no problem bro
>come back a minute later
>his clock finally runs again
>he doesnt do anything at all
>really bro?
>continue reading bedside book
>3 minutes pass
>he sneakily passes back priority at 2 secs left on his clock hoping that i dont notice
>hear turn pass se
>finally move my mon into goal

This has happened multiple times now
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>get 4th shuppet

"well let's meme it like it's never been meme'd before"

>fucking demoted

i had a hunch
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>>31781894
Seriously, how do you get lucky?
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>>31782058

oh, I also tried it once in the Gym and won, probably cause no birds though
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don;t you get an energy upgrade when you complete Château de Rosa? or is 110 max?
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>>31782193
Didn't you start with 110?
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Rate my team.

Also: latias or salamance?
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>>31782470
latias
why did you buy the 4 box slot?
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>>31782484
i was originally not going to spend any money on this game at all but part of me really wanted to support the devs since i think it has serious potential even though they got lazy with a lot of the content/figures/mechanics (like seriously why are there no friends lists/why do trainer cards not have art/ect). long story short i gave them 4.99 for the 4th slot because thats what i think the game is worth.

i would never buy diamonds though
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Can someone help me with my gym team?

-Salamence
-Lugia/Latios
-Natu
-Glaceon
-Genesect
-Shuppet

Who should I use - Lugia or Latios?

Lugia nice because of Hurricane but everyone is using Zapdos + Weavile who have gold attacks. Latios would be an option for these but it always feels like a liability on my teams.
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>>31782507
the 4th slot is temporary
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My R Pikachu has +3 on Thunder, and I just got it to level 5, what do I do? Go +4 on Thunder for better assurance that I get damage, or go for Quick Attack or Thunder Wave?
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How do I get Gyarados?
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>>31782634
whatever
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>>31782658
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ReNWgFB9f6Qi65ajBxNq3R_kXII0vjBNE8h94dItD5o/mobilebasic

This really should be added to the FAQ or the OP.
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>>31782665
Luck from a streak box. I got mine off a 3 streak so any box will do. At this point you might be better off cashing in the box after every win for the most figures in hope of pulling one. Little late to get a streak with gems for the improved change.
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>SPECIAL MISSION
>Win 3 Room Matches
Comfy AF
Even better than watching cause I get to play with absolutely no stakes
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Do grotle and torterras abilities allow opponents to to move over them as well as allies
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is it me or did people with 1/2 streaks suddenly get a lot better today? I feel like a lot of new players stopped bothering with the gym and all that's left now is good players. I've only managed to get around 3 wins against humans today. Usually I can get to 5/6 streaks easily. Today I can barely get to 2
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>hit 2600 club
Wew, no clue how I keep winning sometimes.
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>>31783061
stop spending so much money on a fucking f2p game
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>>31783100
There is nothing wrong with supporting the developers even if I haven't given them a dime as of yet.
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>Support the Devs!!
>Gacha game

hah.
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>magikarp killing things
This was not supposed to happen.
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>>31783160
thats quite the team.

how do you do it? what are your plates?
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>>31781894
>>31782060
Luck
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>>31783267
Switch, double chance, hurdle, and goal block. Might replace switch at some point soon, wish I had the second hurdle jump.

Mainly I play 100% control/rush and pretty much never instigate attacks outside of Keldeo dropping Greninja or hydro kicking for positioning. I lose hard to big dick rushes like 3+ Lati@s if I don't get lucky but fortunately those are going out of style.
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Hey anon who said 1300 was the lowest score they've seen...

Get a load of this.

Played like complete crap, default mons, attacked my EXs with no strategy, I toyed with him sitting near an open goal, made 0 attempts to defend it. The ONE smart thing he did was use an X-Attack and Thunder to take out my Yveltal. Had to end the match cause he put my Giratina to sleep and was making a break towards my unguarded goal cause all my guys were sitting in range of his.
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>>31783160
>Shuppet
Ah yes, the "no skill" strategy.
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>>31783408
What the fuck?
How is this possible?
Did someone just build a really shitty bot?
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>>31783408
lol that deck's been around since I started at the bottom, it's a bot just like the all-bug deck
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Fuck this event, I just want a gyarados, but instead my shit team is stuck fighting fully upgraded birds, I literally have no attacks that can beat 120
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Why is the matchmaking so shit? I'm about 10 games in and it just flip flops me between people with all legendary teams when I still have all regular pokemon, and people who don't seem to know that me walking on their goal ends the game. Are there just no people that know how to play so it has to compensate by pairing me against all legendary teams? My only chance of winning is to hope that my spearow flies over their pokemon, and if they do the "flying trap" around their goal it's basically impossible for me to win

It's technically possible for me to beat a legendary with a regular pokemon but they'd have to get the 3% miss, and I'd also have to not miss and also not land on a non-damaging move
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>Got to 2100
Feels good nigga
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got my 3rd 11-streak box and finally got my gyarados

reminder that its 26.5 hours left of the event so hurry if you're not close to your 150 wins yet

>>31781496
fly away is forced to go over the opponent, teleport goes 2 spaces in any direction that isnt occupied
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>>31782685
no it shouldnt, its inaccurate
its common sense what to level up anyway
depends how the person likes to play
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>Opp is really fucking lucky

just kill me nigga
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>>31783744
>>31783408
its not a bot, its literally the starter deck and plates
its the guys first match
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>>31784489
>3rd 11 streak got Gyarados
>Me sitting on 3 after one 10 streak and >10 2 streaks
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>>31784552
Dude you start at 1500 rep. You lose ~50 rep for every lose, and if you lost three times in a row your next match is against a bot with an all bug team who fucks around and never makes an effort for your goal. It has to be a bot, there's no way someone is that incompetent
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This game make me so cheesed, but I can never stop.
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>>31784592
you start at 100 and the first ratings jump you heaps
like to 700, 1300, then 1500
go make a new account and have a look
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How to make Latios job less?
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>tfw you demolish those bird trio+weavile trio teams with a rage fueled Gyarados who won't allow anything to stay on the field for more than 2 turns
FUCK YOUR MEME TEAM MOTHERFUCKES,, FEAR THE KARP

>>31784695
Get away. Pray. Slay.
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How do I stop playing

I'm addicted
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Wait are you supposed to get the trophy for the 11 streak each time or you only get it once? Just won my second and didn't get another, I swear I saw them stacking on higher rank players.

Seems like the toughest players are 1-3 battles then after that somehow it varies hugely in competence! My 9 fight (pick related) had a good team and the best use of Counter Attack I've ever seen, while my 11 battle flew his zapdos into a surrounded Goal...

>>31784695
I've had a lot of success lately playing defensively and using Latios as a pair in goal keeping the 120 makes others hesitate.
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>>31784944
I thought the same, but I've won 3 times but only got the trophy the first time
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>>31784944
Two Latios? You're crazy man. I've only played people with two of them twice, but they were both screwed. Lati@s is tough to beat, but most other EXs can do it so then you're playing 2v4. Not worth the risk
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Damn why does AI fucking suck? I had like 60 tickets and I've been trying to use it up in the flying gym. It constantly loses on the 1st or 2nd round, highest it got was 5 wins.

I saw it do the stupidest shit, including using a double chance plate and then walking to surround a pokemon, wasting the plate.

Does my team just suck? Using Moltres, Lugia, Grenigger, Yveltal, and Salamencex2 for the gym. I got like 10 AI tickets left then it's back to the grind
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Is it impossible to buy Gyarados?
Im yet to get one and im starting to worry Ill miss out on the new craze
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>>31784995
Oh no no no, just as part of a pair of mon heh like usually with Blastoise or Ho-oh for my team.
Yeah two Latios would be ridiculous

Also that feel when Gyarados clutches out a win over mozart team
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>>31785084
Wonder if they'll just be added to the regular packs going forward, anyone experience the events before this?
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>>31784880
keep playing the flying gym until you constantly lose every time except to that one AI guy with the beedrill and pinsir

that's a good way to not want to play anymore
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>>31785152
Fuck that bot and his 3 Double Chance plates. What's your team btw
>>
reminder that we missed out on a waifu last year
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>>31785227
she's like 10
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>>31785246
10/10
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>>31785227
>carol
>carlo
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>31785246
So what you're saying is she's an adult now ready to go out into the world on her own adventure fighting animals, nice
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>>31785265
carlo is carol's consciousness

the secret to the AI strength is that #7 only picks the best waifus to infuse into AI
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>>31785283
After the tutorial, do you always get a Pikachu out of the timed booster and a Pichu out of the booster ticket pack?
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>>31785401
what timed booster?
you start with a Rare pikachu if thats the one you're talking about, the one it prompts you to level up or whatever
pichu no, that was random

when people reroll its to get a different drop from that booster ticket
so if you're not happy with pichu you can try for other stuff
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>Lose 3 times in a row
>Game puts you in a pity match against an npc
>Lose to the npc
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>>31785434
Losing to bug bot outta just automatically reset your account
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>>31785434
>Losing to Bug Bot
>TF2 Posting

Yeah, that's about what I expected.
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>>31785434
how do you lose to bugsy? it never even tries to defend the goal
>>
This game is quickly losing my attention with its not very diverse meta
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>>31785807
Run a meme team
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>>31785424
The rare pikachu comes out of a yellow timed booster when they're teaching you about boosters. And Pichu looks like garbage, rerolling.
>>
>Do everything right
>Spin everything wrong

UNINSTALLED
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>>31786311
Clearly the optimal way to play is to minimize spinning at all.
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Anyone upset about what we're losing?

Wonder what they'll add for us?
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>>31786552
im hoping for vulpix and ninetales
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>>31783007
this
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>>31786552
Well, legendary birds aren't AS broken outside of the gym, so I guess we aren't losing much. I already have Lugia and Ho-oh but I'm still not sure I think they're that good. I'm kind of hoping Clefairy gets in and is 3MP and has a wacky purple wedge. I just want more meme shit to fuck up the 6 EX braindead motherfuckers.
>>
how do you see peoples trophies?
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>>31786552
fml, I really wanted a zapdos
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>>31786552
i wanted a genesect or greninja for my team
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>>31786603
>>31786604
should stay in timed ones still
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wish they added option to duel against AI that won't waste energy and you could customize it's team, just to test things out.
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>>31785807
this. the devs really didn't think this through. playing the exact same 6 pokemon every single fucking time isn't fun
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>>31786552
I sort of wanted Salamence and Leafeon. Well, this is only the shop boosters, right? Maybe I should buy a quad pack. I saved up 1200 gems so far.
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Oh shit, they're buffing Mew, Rayquaza, Machamp and Heracross. They are also adding energy plates to the game.
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Just got Giratina from a 2 win booster. Seems pretty worthless, but that ability to move through things might make usable? I already have a good team with some boss exs, but I'm curious if anyone that uses this thing can tell me how.
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>>31786722
404 post purpose not found
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>>31786711
aww yeah i'm a mew user. looks like vanish is replaced with whatever shuttle flip does
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>>31780928
Only one Gyarados was from an 11 streak

>>31786711
So r u gonna tell us the buffs?
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>>31786748
I found that it just doesn't land on the 110 move enough and I had to swap him out. There are just more reliable EXs out there. If you need a hard hitter though then he might suffice for the time being. Never really had a use for his ability outside of moving it to the goal a bit quicker.
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>>31776536
Does anyone else think this was a really unfun event. Like why the fuck would I want to play against a full team of legendary birds three of which are zapdos? Like no thanks I don't want to pay to be good
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>>31786841
I've been having heaps of fun with it and I don't have any of the birds
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>>31786852
I find the fun quickly sucked out when i have these people with that. Theres no strategy in just going through other pokemon.
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>>31786841
I hate it so much, I rarely win against bird teams, they get a free entry point unless you are lucky and dumb enough to attack them on you turn, and it forces you to waste 2 of your turns trying to defend against it (all the while theyre sending another bird to your other entry point)
At least shuppet dies to anything.
You cant beat them with white attacks because theyre all 90+ attacks (except zapdos' 15% 50 attack) and you cant beat them with yellows unless you're a luck sack.

3MP birds were a mistake
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>>31786936
Forgot to mention you cant beat them with purples because 100 DAMAGE 50% GOLD ATTACK
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>>31786791
From Serebii
>Mew
>Hyper Sonic - Added effect of Mew not being Knocked Out if the move used against it does damage of over 100
>Vanish removed and replaced with a new move Shuttle Flip which moves Mew back 1 or 2 spaces

>Rayquaza
>Width of Extreme Speed move increased
Twister move replaced with a new move, Break Energy, which does 60 damage with a yet unclear special effect
>Altered the placement of the Miss segments

>Machamp
>Movement MP increased from 1 to 2
>Decreased size of Miss segment
>Increased width size for Submission
>Karate Chop damage increased from 50 to 60

>Heracross
>Decreased size of Miss segment
>Increased size of Overhead Toss segment
>Horn Attack damage increased from 40 to 60
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SEND HELP
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The details of the rebalancing are as
follows:

V02/16/2017 (UTC) Affected
[EX] Mew
- Set additional effects for Hyper Sonic

- Vanish changed to a new Attack, Shuttle
Flip

[EX] Mew is a special Pokémon. Hyper Sonic
is the Gold Attack with the largest Wheel
Piece Size at present, but now. as an
additional effect, we gave it the capacity to

turn aside excessive impacts. The new Blue
Attack, Shuttle Flip, allows you to turn aside
the opponent‘ s Attack and shift into an
Attack of your own. Mew will continue to be
special.

[EX] Rayquaza

- Increase in the Wheel Piece Size of
Extreme Speed

- Twister 50 changed to Break Energy 60
- Changed the placement of Miss

[EX] Rayquaza, with the Gold Attack,
Extreme Speed 120. which can stand up to
high—powered [EX] Pokemon, has a growing

presence. Now we‘ ve given Rayquaza a
new Attack. Break Energy. (We’ ve swapped
it in for Twister.) This special Attack
negates the effects of a new type of plate,
Energy. While decreasing the Wheel Piece
Size of Miss, the changed Attack was placed
by picturing Rayquaza ascending in a spiral.
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[R] Machamp

- Changed from MP1 to MP2

— Decreased the Wheel Piece Size of Miss
- Increased the Wheel Piece Size of
Submission

- Changed Karate Chop 50 to Karate Chop

60

[R} Machamp’ s Ability, Guts, is gaining
new value with the appearance of many
Pokémon with the capacity to inflict special
conditions, such as [EX] Zapdos. To allow it
to utilize that Ability, we have decreased the
Wheel Piece Size of Miss and enhanced the
damage that it inflicts, and this should raise
its capabilities when affected by a special
condition. Without any Purple Attacks, you
should be able to utilize its strength against
Gold Attacks. We have also increased its MP
to 2.

[R] Heracross

- Decreased the Wheel Piece Size of Miss
- Increased the Wheel Piece Size of
Overhead Toss

- Changed Horn Attack 40 to Horn Attack
60

[R] Heracross is an interesting figure, with
Overhead Toss, its characteristic attack
allows you to disrupt the opponent’ s
position or move their Pokémon off their
goal. By adjusting its damage and the Wheel
Piece Size of Miss, we can expect greater
things from this figure.
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>>31784348
OK, the matchmaking seems better after doing more matches.

But I just had a game where my meowth just needed to swap places onto the goal but squirtle legitimately rolled withdraw 15+ times and I eventually lost due to a time out. God dammit you useless cat.
>>
>>31786624
Why don't you change teams anyway and experiment with new combinations? If your so bored then you won't care if you lose
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>>31786950
Oh no bugbots going to be OP!
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>>31786841
It was interesting concept, but it was ruined by having the legendary birds be released a week earlier

I hope they find a way to make these gimmicks work without making certain figure outragously OP
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>>31787235
it's fine with most other types

basically for anything that doesnt have inbuilt infiltrate/soar it isnt such a massive shift in power

I don't think its ruined, its still fun to have something temporarily crazy overpowered like that

I don't have any of the birds before you go say 'its only fun for people with them'

also reminder that there are 20.5 hours left of the event and then maintenance
>>
>you can get matched with somebody having a lower streak
wait, what
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>>31787245
The most cancerous is Zapdos. Like Rayray, its gold attack is not only big but strong, meaning it beats so many non-blue attacks.

Unlike Rayray, it actually has some kind of mobility.

Also, just learned that Aura Sphere does not trigger white attack's effects like Super Psy's.
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>It's a "opponent doesn't even known his own mon's abilities so he never uses Genesect's hoverjet and wastes 1 minutes before realising psycho switch means he has to pick a bench mon" episode

This has happened before. I kinda blame the interface, the text for te ability covers the "whose turn" Indicator. They should probably fix that for dumb babbies.
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>they are rotating out birds
It won't really matter by then.
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Hands up who managed to get the streak trophy.

I want to see just how hard it actually is.

Bonus points for no birds. Extra bonus points for no EX.
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>>31787455
gotten 11 streak 3 times (without cheat gems)
no birds
3 EXs
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>150 wins
That took forever, In what mon should I use my EX cube? I was thinking grenninja or lugia.
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>>31787455
I got the 50 streak one. See >>31787434 for my team, but note I got about 40 with Raikou instead of second Yveltal and another Jolteon instead of Magikarp.
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>>31787455
2 times, first one without burds but shuppet, second one with the moltres I got from a 7 winstreak.
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>>31787467
I'd go with greninja on his shuriken

its slightly wasteful on lugia since his attack is split up in two so you can only level one of them

but greninja you only care about shuriken
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>>31787473
thats not a streak you silly duck its total wins
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>>31787476
>shuppet
shuppet is poor man's bird right now
>>
>4 games of 0 win streak in a row
>all 4 games every opponent has full team of latios/zapdos/moltres shit

WWHHYHYHWTHWHYWH IT USED TO NOT BE LIKE THIS
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>>31787504
latios is a chump and gives the opponent easy wins
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>>31787497
With so many birbs blocking each other, shuppet has a little niche in the gym.
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>>31787504
>>31787506
>he doesn't surround lati@s
Latios is a crutch. It's strong but if you kill it, it handicaps the player.
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>>31787482
My mistake friend! I'll try to pay more attention next time.
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>>31787509
hence why its a chump

good for tyrogue farming though
>>
finally a gyarados in a single win streak
>>
I have 200 gems. Open a booster or save for the return of sextuples?
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>>31787558
use on energy for the next 18.5 hours
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>fused my Machamp yesterday
It looked fun to use but with its old size 20 miss and 1MP I just couldn't use it.
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IS ANYONE ELSE LOSING LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE GAME IN GYM NOW?
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>>31787583
Just keep trying until you get BugBot and then Shuppet your way to victory.
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>>31787583
not me, just got my 4th 11 streak
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>>31778028
lost my on my 10th gemless streak to a team of 4 leg birbs, yveltal & double ho

yes I mad
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>>31779192
oh my god, I think that was me, sorry for your rolls anon

but stop using metagross, its shit liie most 1mp mons
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>>31781913
fuck you for having 4 meme birbs
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>>31782912
yes
its very bad
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>accidentally use switch on magikarp instead of hurdle
>he attacks goomy with genesect
>slippery swap
>mfw I still win despite of misplay
It was a Japanese player with four birds, so this was perfect.
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>>31787568
>fusing machamp
>when machamp is going to get a buff soon
>>
>sleep on this flying gym thing
>decide to try it despite only thing resembling a meme bird I have is Lucia
>rack up 4 wins before I lose and run out of energy
Eh, I'll cash out here. Don't want to grind back here
>Get garbo from the pack like expected
>buy a 4 pack with my gems
>pull Ho-Oh and Zapdos
Well shit.
>>
>gym
>apparently most of your enemies have never heard about hurdle jump
easy wins
>>
>>31776536
Haha just found out theres no meganium or chikorita
>>
>>31787779
Source: my butthurt ass
>>
>>31787982

>>31787077
machamp heracross and mew are being buffed
I wonder what that means for that bug bot team
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i'm going to my miss natu, spearow and mences 3 MP
I wish theyd buff xatu's speed
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So I hear they're buffin fug
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>>31787455
I got the 50 streak trophy with no birds, no EXes

just kirlia, shuppet and goomy
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>>31788140
>shuppet

embarassing
>>
>>31787436

>still no Weavile
>still no psyduck

FUCK
>>
>>31788220
Why do you want psycuck
>>
>>31788413

to evolve into Golduck of course
>>
>>31788427
Oh I see
I thought you were going to say you needed him for a story mode quest, like Taillow or Pikachu.
>>
Anyone else think it's kind of low to design the gym to be hard to get far without at least one of those shiny new birbs or spending gems?
>>
>>31788478
no
I got the 11 streak 4 times without spending on continues and I have no birds

I'd prefer some kind of balance enforced (i.e. soar removed for gym, or can only soar over one figure or something) but its not terrible that its like this
>>
>213 slots in library
>210 figures on Serebii
what did HEROZ mean by this
>>
>>31787583
Yes, but it only happens exactly every other day, but ooh boy are the good days beast, still not sure why desu
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Nice match anon.
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>>31788510
>swastika
>runs 2 gyarados
Were they regular Gyara or evolved ones? I've seen people run two evokarps, and supposedly one of the event's top players has THREE.
>>
>>31788510
I beat that scrub earlier
he's a reddit shitter
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>>31788517
Evolved. I really want a Gyarados too.
>tfw three Magikarp but no Gyarados
>>
>>31788489

the nerf soar needs is "to be able to soar past non-flying pokemon"

but in truth we only feel it's abusive because of the extra MP in the gym, outside it's fucking bird shit and Shuppet is still more dangerous for surrounding and pushing forward
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>>31788533
The problem with Soar is that extra MP. Without it, all you can do is jump over a figure.
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>it's another 3 mp sally fly overs to victory in two turns episode
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>>31788510
>>31788520
>he did this
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>>31787436
>Rotating out Greninja
Fug
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>Already use Fug and it's my most reliable figure for everything but goal keeping
>mfw it's getting buffed
>>
>second gyarados out of nowhere
>have one magikarp
the dark side is calling for me boys
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>I could've won about 4 turns ago
He deserved to suffer, to have that tiny bit of hope played with.
>>
>>31788987
faced a bird and shuppet user earlier, I debated letting the timer run down for a while on my winning turn because he'd been playing in a really annoying manner stalling the game out by just positioning so that if I moved for an attack I would get surrounded

I ended up just finishing it straight way and I'm still debating whether I should have done it or not
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>MASTER, DO YOU EXPECT ME TO WIN??
>No Mr. Karp, I expect you to die!
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>tfw on the fence about whether to buy a couple quad packs before they rotate or save the gems in case something else good is introduced
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>31787780
>play flying gym everyday since it started
>decide to try my best despite having shit team and no birbs
>rack up 80 total wins but no streak past 3 before I finally start giving up hope
Eh I'll give up here. I have things to do and there's no way I'll get the EX Cube before the event ends
>Get garbo from every pack like expected
>buy a 4 pack with my gems
>IT'S STILL ALL GARBO

WELL SHIT
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>>31788730
Give into the new meta anon, acquire the karp and unleash the storm.

I have two fully operational CL +1 monsters complete with Karp delivery system, fuck the birb users I have laser fish defense system and my side is a goddamn no fly zone.

And my third karp is awaiting his destiny even now
>>
>>31787067
Hum might actually use my Mew now. Need to see what exactly it looks like. Vanish was such a meme move and killed it's usability against the shupp.
>>
Bought quad pack. Got Yveltal, Glaceon, Druddigon and Haunter.

Did I do good?
>>
>Poliwag has been more consistently good than Latios for me

what figures have treated you well?
>>
>>31789401
Shuppet, Natu and Glaceon are my bros.
>>
>been winning more consistently
>because of a deck of 3 Shuppet, a Haunter, a Metagross, and Geodude's evolution line
>>
>>31789493
>geodude line
is geodude anything good
>>
>>31789464
what does natu even do?
moving two spaces back is never good
>>
Anyone know how the Mask and Hair you supposedly get from 11 win streaks look like? I have only two 11 win streaks, so I'm having trouble deciding if I should use gems for energy and try to get the mask.
>>
>>31789503
It has Self-Destruct

Also Rollout memes
beat an Yveltal with Rollout earlier
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>>31789508
When the game says "back" it actually means "away".

You can use Teleport to jump the figure you just fought. Or to move anywhere 2 steps away, really.
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i did it, and just in the victory 100, now i cant stop playing this bird party
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>>31789508

"two spaces away" doesn't mean "back" unless it says so, Teleport is a better fly away, but it's no Fly

also future sight for respin shenanigans and double quick for killing big purples, i love this birdball
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>>31789510
Here is the achievement list, I think it counts total trophies not just the 11 streak
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screw bird owners
he did a chain paralyze on 5 of my guys at once (as well as 2 of his own though)

god damn birds make games drag out so long
>>
>>31789510
>>31789566
you don't get more than one 11-win trophy
I've gotten 4 11-win streaks and the 50 total win trophy but I don't have the mask, it only counts for two trophies

I don't know how some people have it showing x7, maybe it means 7 total trophies but just shows the one they picked
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>>31789510
>>31789626
also this is what they look like
>>
>>31789566
>>31789626
Aren't there just 5 trophies? I've seen people with 3 trophy mask and you shouldn't have gotten one yet, so how does that work?
>>
>>31789577

>that big chain electrocution

fuck, I've only burned through 3 figures with my moltres, i never considered you could get so many of them bunched up together to use the effect
>>
>>31789668
most likely japanese players who got trophies from previous events

also the gym was accidentally released for 17 minutes way earlier than it was supposed to and some lucky people played it and might have gotten trophies in that time I think (if it counted the top ranking thing when it was taken down?)
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>>31789684
same thing happened to me yesterday where he zapped my entire team and one of his own moltres' in one go
>>
>>31789577
How is xatu in the flying cup? I've thought about using it but that 1 less MP is discouraging. Ive found natu pretty useful against shuppets as well
>>
>>31789543
what team do you run
>>
>>31789727
It's fun to evolve Natu
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>>31789727
most of the time I use natu and just leave him like that, but occassionally I'll evolve it into xatu because 2mp with a 50% segment 4-star teleport can travel around like crazy
but yeah a majority of the time natu is better
future sight is such a good move
>>
>>31789727

if they still don't have anything on the goal, don't evolve Natu, but if they're already setting something and your natu is already close its good to have that 4* teleport and slightly stronger psychic to resist attacks, but using it without evolving is a bad idea
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>>31789543
two lugias, two articunos, a moltres and a greninja
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should i just upgrade teleport?
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>>31789788
probs
>>
>get second shuppet
should i meme with it
>>
>>31789847
not 'til ya have 3
>>
>>31776536
Is there a max amount of gem you can have?
>>
>>31789886
i had 4 digits so probably not
>>
i have three Gyarados and no Magikarp, what am i doing wrong?
>>
>>31789508
Future Sight allows rerolls. Gold Attack. Teleport shenanigans.

Handy as a purple enemy blocker too.
>>
>all these unobtainable figures after the next update
Will we every be able to get some of them again?
>>
>>31789956
bro i got 3 magikarp and 0 gyrados.

im desperately trying to get a gyrados before this event is over what spree # boxes are you pulling them from?
>>
>>31790139
you can still get them from time packs and other stuff like that
>>
>>31790139
Most figures are just rotated out, though there are some event ones according to Serebii
>>
>>31790148
I'm new to this game... What are time packs?
>>
>>31790155
Packs you get after winning a league match.
>>
>start using AI since everyone says it's a amazing

>AI uses Goal Block with Pokemon 1 step away from goal
>AI attacks Zapdos with Shuppet. Twice.
>AI uses Hurdle Jump with Shuppet.
>AI uses Double Chance with Shuppet to attack another Shuppet.
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>>31790429

you let it go from the start? it rarely works when you already did moves, sometimes you think it's doing an unnecessary thing, that often was the best move of all available or a super high reward would come from it in the future if it lands just right (the Ai takes huge risks if it deems it worth it, it knows when it's or is gonna get cornered)

sometimes it uses plates because it doesn't want to move it's pieces (it's very cunning), buuuut I don't think it considers HJ as "moving" under certain circumstances and wastes it
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>someone bullshits their way to a win in a couple turns with Ho-oh and a plate
>wait the full four minutes until making my next move
No remorse, no shame.
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i am fucking done with this
i am thinking about buying third shuppet in the hop and just memeing my way with shuppet trio and few other mon to back up them

all thanks to these birdfags and their 'lol let's soar through your pokemon into entry point from 3 tiles away!'

if anyone has better ideas i will hear you

maybe if i get second magikarp i will make three shuppet two gyarados one tyranitar just to fuck over everybody
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>>31790546
>If anyone has better ideas i will hear you
Git gud

Someone make a new thread we've reached bump limit
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>>31790561
>git gud
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>>31790532
how petty

I do this too when someone has a team with MOZART + three extra zapdos
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i'm 31 wins in, and i don't think i'm gonna make it to the 50 wins, i have a good team but no birds and every match is just as hard as if i had 10 victories in
how long do i have until the event ends?
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>>31790598
The event ends in about 9 hours.
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>>31790598
countdown link

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/party?iso=20170216T0459&p0=4429&msg=End+of+Pok%C3%A9mon+Duel+Flying+Gym+Cup&font=sanserif
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Is Genesect worth using, and what plates would be best if so? I feel like Chill Drive would be perfect for removing all these birds running rampant. It can also hit dragons, which is another bulk of the EX figures.
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>>31790602
>>31790618
welp, i guess no trophy for me
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Can someone help me with my team?

I finally got a Zapdos but I don't know who to replace on my team:

Salamence
Natu
Glaceon
Genesect
Latios
Shuppet


Salamence is good because it has 71 attack so it can deal with every other Salamence people are using. Fly Away is nice.
Natu is good for Teleport but dies easily.
Glaceon because Diamond Dust. Makes a surprisingly good defender because of Dodge.
Latios is nice not because of its attacks but because it scares the opponent and makes him/her focus on trying to surround it. I can use this to set up my own traps.
Genesect doesn't really kill anything but that 3*** purple move is nice.
Shuppet because
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>>31790649
latios
it's kinda of crutch as if it dies you have a handicap
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>>31790141
everywhere from 1-7
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>>31790618
>just get 2313 and barely in top 1000
>Win will get me 7 points or less, loss will drop me 30 or more
>1000 rank score limit slowly keeps climbing up and 10 hours remain

I don't wanna fight and lose, but if I sit it'll probably pass me
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>>31790733
Then win.
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so what does the 50 wins reward cup give?
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>>31790785
a trophy
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>>31790757
I did,
>1689 point player with 2 zapdos, articuno, fug, mewtwo, charizard
>5 point reward

How do these low point players have such threatening teams?!

>>31790785
Pride, multiple trophies gives aesthetic rewards
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>>31790649
Salamence

Soar is basically guarateed Fly Away, unless they have other birb.
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>>31790513

>use AI from get go
>get me to block opponent entries
>opponent lugia on his own goal
>my magmortar comes in through the middle next to lugia
>could just stay there hope for bad spin from opponent to capture next turn and win
>it attacks lugia
>double miss
Opponets turn, attacks magmortar
>lugia dodge
>AI can now capture lugia by moving pokemon on corner opposite from magmortar for checkmate
>attacks with magmortar again
>ko magmortar
>wtf
>stop AI

Still ended up winning but holy shit how does AI not take into account capturing figures for the win.
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>>31790618
I didn't participate as much as I should have. I did get Gyarados, but no Magikarp
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How do I get more masks? I know figures are important as well but being fashionable takes priority.
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>>31787063
i have 4 tentacool now. checking if i have any pieces to pair it with
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whats the dirence between palarisis and burn
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>be me
>be playing against a guy with 3 birbs
>in a hopeless situation
>opponent has birbs on both my entry points and the third birb is coming to attack
>I only have a birb on my Goal, and a Magikarp near opponent's entry point in the right lane, whose bath is blocked by a Blastoise
>I'm ready to give up
>use Hurdle Jump to get my Magikarp over Blastoise in last ditch effort
>Magikarp 2 steps away from Goal, can win in a single turn
>Blastoise also Hurdle Jumps over, blocking the path to Goal
>attack with Magikarp, because nothing else I can do
>Opponent rolls Miss and I roll Flail
>OHHHHHHHHHHHH.jpg
>Path to goal completely free, didn't evolve Magikarp
>Opponent sends out Frogninja, attacks Magikarp
>Evolve and run to the goal
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>>31790993
story/quest mode
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>run into 3weavile teams several times yesterday
>decide to add sylveon and jigglypuff (with evo) to my deck today
>run into no weaviles after that
I wanted to ask, does syveon ability work only on pokemon that it battles or on ALL enemies as long as sylveon is on the field?
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>>31791001
burn is better
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Got a spare lugia, should I fuse them together?
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>>31791036
only on pokemon it battles. its funny when greninja attacks at gets 0
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>get two shuppet in your deck just for meme
>suddenly face off against a guy with greninja... that has rank 1457
>i win in three turns
how
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>>31791165
uh I forgot about greninja, I'm running it purely to counter dark types, I wonder if I should ditch Jigglypuff and just run wigglytuff since I often don't get chances to evolve them (due to people running the birbs of balance) or just make my deck more defensive.
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So, what's the fastest way to grind up to 50 wins without any EX
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>>31791196
does jigglypuff have hypnotic voice? its one of the better counters for hurdle jump as long as you keep wiggly on the bench until someone looks like they are rushing
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i got the 11 win streak, opened the box, and didn't get a trophy?!?! why not?

is it because i used a gem continue? or because i used ai tickets? wtf
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>>31791201
3 weaviles. what are your cards?
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>>31791226
You have to do it without gem continue.

It'd be too easy otherwise.
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>>31791236
Don't have Weaviles either.
Got a Hurdle Jump, 2 Switch, a Double Chance and a X Attack
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How the fuck does every team I face now have multiple birds? I frequently see 3 zapdos on one team, even. The highest streak I got was 7 and now I can't get past 2. Do we just drop all of our gems on the quads and pray for birds now, since they're being rotated out? What are the odds, even? I assume low but literally everybody has them, and in multiples at that.
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>>31791334
wait for the next gacha and pray to that one. It's too late for birds.
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>>31791340
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>>31791350
It isn't, though
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>>31790546

dude stop trying to just block the way and fucking fight back, a tiny chance of a miss on their side (or getting them to roost) is better than just letting them win

i learned this from the AI and it barely betrayed it or me
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>>31791201
How many more wins do you need?
Cause looking at it from a point of view with just win loss say 1:3 and each match lasting 3 minutes you would need 150 matches and 7.5 hours of straight game play as well as 3000 energy.

During the 7.5 hours of play you would regain 179 energy and would need to pay 280 gems to cover the remaining energy costs (assuming you started with full energy)
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>>31790958

oh right, the AI doesn't like to do that one for some reason, i also stop it when I see it's gonna move a figure next to the goalie and just take control before it does so, i think it believes that by attacking it'll ko it, then win by wait, or if it dies, then next turn the opponent will HAVE to move it's last figure out of the goal, so that you can move a 3 spacer in there, even if there's no fucking need to do so
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>daily mission
>gems
>gems
>special wheel booster pack
>special mission is use 4 materials in fission
>hell yea
>fuse 4 to spin wheel
>more gens

Btw where the fuck is shuckle? Hoping he has tanking slices like shelgon.
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>he got his birbs killed
>he forfeits
Thanks Richard. This wasn't even a gym match, it was in League.
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