>that time /vp/ used to say this thing would be top in OU

>>31731812
we didn't know that GF would gimp its movepool

>>31731812
I don't remember that. I just remember people here going [pathetic unevolved fairy here] used Fairy Wind. I personally thought it would've been better than it turned out, but when I saw the movepool, stats and mediocre HA its fate dawned on me.

>>31731823
And in their defense they didn't know all this prerelease

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>>31731812
Did anyone say OU?

>>31731812
>2 gens ago this was the most diserable typing

>>31731986
it's still a great typing, kommo-o is mediocre because it's a slow pile of shit with an awful moveset

>>31732383
>a slow pile of shit
It has dragon dance.
>with an awful moveset
Nobody will defend that. Seriously, don't pseudo legendaries tend have huge movepools? Why gimp this guy out of a good movepool AND a proper fighting STAB move?!

>>31732475
Because dragons aren't cool anymore anon.

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>>31731812
>tfw you one-shot Totem Kommo-o

>>31731868
>What is underused

>>31732383
This, dragon/fighting coverage can hit everything neutrally or super effectively except for fairies, and it gets poison jab to cover that.

The problem is that, for some inexplicable reason, its actual fighting and dragon movepool is absolute trash and its stats are a huge hinder. Even if this thing was released in gen 4 or 5 it might not make OU. It's slow and not that tanky so anything with a super effective that outspeeds (which is a lot) can easily kill it. Anything with a strong brave bird or psychic, fast dragons, weavile, etc.

>>31732530
I one shot Salazzle too. Wasn't even 4x effective, just bubble beam from the dewpider I caught about 30 minutes ago. I didn't even use the z move because I forgot to give it the water crystal.

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>People thought Dhelmise would be good
>IT HAS THREE STABS GUYS WOW

>>31732508
Well it's pseudo legendaries in general, not just dragon types.

>>31732647
it's literally impossible for anything with low speed to be OU unless it's outrageously tanky shit like cancerapex
there's too many strong wallbreakers for bulky sweepers to be viable

>>31731868
At least Kommo-o has a cool design

>>31732638
I one-shot a lot of things in SM.

>>31732647
>Dhelmise will probably be forever a Smogon meme like ORAS RU Ambipom

>>31732475
the way i see it part of the issue is its stat build. its built to cover a lot of bases but it doesn't have a proper movepool to fully take advantage of this

>>31732475
>Dragon Dance when you have a 4x weakness

>inb4 dragonite
Dragonite has multiscale to remedy this

>>31733089
>Dragon Dancing on a pokemon you're 4x weak against
You see, this is why you retards can't make arguments as to why a pokemon is good or bad.

>>31733089
>tfw Kommo-O should logically get Multiscale

>>31733088
>the way i see it part of the issue is its stat build.
It gives me a "jack of all trades" vibes. But as you said, it doesn't have the movepool to do it. I believe Goodra also suffers from a terrible movepool too.

>>31733389
Goodra has a good movepool, it's just doesn't do anything well

>>31732638
>what is water bubble
Basically 4x effective

>>31733389
At least Goodra's stats are clearly geared towards being specially defensive

Kommo-o's are just a mess

>>31733389
>just bulky enough to take some punishment
>just strong/fast enough for a boosted sweep
>JUST movepool

goodra has an okay movepool, all its really missing is recovery. what hurt it was the mediocre physical bulk and gooey requiring contact

>>31733430
If the slimy dragon defense were at least 90, it could be properly used as a Tank.
It has the tools to run as a Grass and Electric resist Tank in a Rain Team thanks to Hydration, Thunder and Muddy Water.

But its physical defense is too low to take repeated hits.

>>31733462
You'd think a slime monster would learn recover.

>>31731812
Salty contrarianfags that not wanted a Steel/Dragon ankylosaurus

>>31731812
>/vp/ is one person
retard

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>>31733485
even though theres like a dozen versions of recover, they still get spotty distribution

>>31731812
what are you talking about /vp/ always says a pokemon is going to be shit if it has x4 weaknesses

>>31733435
Still though, it's a bubble beam from an underleveled dewpider and the Salazzle has a special defense buff. I did not at all expect to oneshot.

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>>31731812
Actually, I thought it wouldn't even be the pseudo for this generation.