Random starter off screen in your house. I chose Litten, not

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I guess a bathroom was supposed to be part of your house.

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And a garage.

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I have literally no idea where I am, all I know is that this is part of my house

>>31726825
Can you use the toilet???

Neat

Check if the golf course actually exists or not.
Also the center of the Lake of the Sunne/Moone.

>>31726903
Nope.

>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
>Game Freak was this lazy

>>31726886
can you get to the golf course?

>>31726924
what purpose could a bathroom have

>>31726920
Golf course exists
Lake has cut areas

Both were confirmed in another thread

>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
>You FINALLY have a real house
>GF makes 80% inaccessible

>>31726938
link to said thread?

>>31726920
>>31726930
Just go here >>31725911

>>31726781
>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
Detle this

>So lazy they can't even delet

what about the power plant?

>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886

This...is baffling. How has no one posted about these areas until now.

>>31726936
toilet rotom

>>31726966
Toilet rotom has to be a real party pooper

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Do you ever see this part of the lake?

So we have:

>Most of the house (complete)
>Path and corridors in Alter of the Suune/Moone (appears complete)
>Golf course
>Cave entrance above Brooklet Hill
>Cave entrance in Poni Meadow
>Maybe power plant and lighthouse

Is there anything in or near the volcano?

>>31726966
>Electric/Poison with Sludge Bomb
>This kills the Azumarill

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Existence is pain. Time for us to update the collage again...

>>31726781
>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
inb4 kotaku takes these images and shits out an article using them

I'm pretty sure that you may find something in the League

Was there ever that much cut content in the 2D games?

It renders it off screen for the cutscene where you show your starter to your mom, old news

Haven't seen the bathroom or garage before

Anything like an Akala Meadow?

what's the big deal if there's nothing important there

>>31727055
We're on /vp/

>>31727055
We're finding more reasons to hate on SM.

>>31727055
What's the point having a town with no gym?
What's the point having a route with no Pokemon?
What's the big deal if there's nothing important there

>>31727048
It's a possible location in PKHeX.

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>>31726781
>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
Bravo Gamefreak.
>inb4 muh Stars will fix everything
Yeah I loved Z and Delta Emerald.

>>31727080
Because you don't have a bathroom?

I want someone to use the walk-through-walls cheat in Ultra Space.

I don't even see it as lazy cause they clearly put in the work to make them. It's more strange that they put in work, but didn't use it

>>31727101
Why are there no bathrooms at all? Not even a textured wall with a sign

>>31727097
>Delta Emerald
Remakes don't get third versions.

All of these missing things is pretty inexcusable though. GF decided that time was better spent making festival plaza the garbage it is instead of giving us the PSS again and finishing the game.

>>31727048
>>31727091
I think I read that the header still exists in the game but no area.

>>31727084
like what's your point here?

>>31727101
Exactly.

>>31726825
Someone went through all the trouble of modelling and texturing a toilet for a Pokemon game only for it not be hidden away at the end

>>31727128
Hala's house has a bathroom, and it's an actual room with sinks, a toilet, and everything.

But there's nothing there except 2 Pyukumuku for some reason. Not even an item or Zygarde core/cell.

>>31726781
That's interesting, I also used NTR for wallhacks to look at shit a while back and it had all 3 starters until I chose Rowlet, at which point Rowlet disappeared while Litten and Popplio were still there.

>tfw the 3ds limitations cut a lof of things

I hope we get stars or a sun/moon port +extras on switch

>>31727039
Apart from maybe GS, the answer leans closer to no with each passing day.

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>>31727195
Here's the screenshot of all 3 before I chose a starter

>>31727224
>i hope we get anything on switch
kys

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>>31727195
>>31727242
Oh nevermind, it did just become my chosen starter. Seems I remembered it wrong.

>>31727039
I recall GSC having a big share, DP as well if you count that as 2D

Anything for the Power Plant or Trash Building outside Malie?

>>31727224
The 3DS limitations aren't even why, these areas load fine and they have a ton more potential cart space, they probably just rushed shit. Not to mention they can still go N3DS exclusive like they did with Crystal going GBC exclusive.

>>31727247
Switch looks like garbage, too weak for a home console, too cumbersome as a handheld. I genuinely hope it fails and Nintendo just makes a proper new handheld two years from now. Sadly it looks like Japan won't let that happen, so I'll probably have to buy one.

>>31727276
The trash place and Malie city are actually one area, I don't know why they have a loading section

>>31727346
Because SM needs a thousand transition screens

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>>31726781
If this didn't confirm SuMo as the Sonic 06 of Pokemon the I don't know what does.

>>31727951
Your friends are having a nice day you know.

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>>31727007
What the hell is going on here?

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>31727951
>This fag again

>>31727039
Gold and Silver has HUGE cuts, in both features and locations. Gen 4 was pretty damn bad also.

>>31726924
>gamefreak is lazy because of something that the common audience of this game would never see
you are dumb as fuck
honestly tell me, what could they have done for you to refrain from calling them 'this lazy'?

>>31726924
They likely cut it because they didn't want to rework the route as that would take time

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>>31727055
For all sad words of tongue and pen,
The saddest are these, “It might have been.”

>>31726781
>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
>>31727007
What about the black platform looking thing by the haunted shopping mall in the water? I remember people speculating a lot abkut it being an underwater bunker or something. And there's also the Mountain with the observatory.
>Leave Observatory
>Walk down road thinking you can trek to the bottom on foot
>Path blocked by Bus
I'd say something there was also cut.

This game is just a rushed mess.

>>31729361
Can anybody post a picture of that thing near the abandoned Thrifty Megamart?

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>>31729533
Honestly the best picture I can find after a good fee minutes of searching. Does that platform have even a name or even the slightest mention by anyone or anything?

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>>31729533
This help?

>>31727951
Dude, if this is the 06 of pokémon, than the next games will probably make me literally orgasm.

>>31729361
You get TM30 from it

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This game is like a really smooth rock with some patches on it that got really fucked up. One minute it's smooth and polished and nice and the next it's jagged and rough and really a drag.

>>31729361
I think that it's simply the platform of the broken lighthouse that you can see underwater. Regarding the mount with the observatory it was a delusion for me, too

>G/S had this much cut content
Would Gamefreak ever create a new game based on gen 2 graphics? I would buy it

>>31729560
>>31729601
Oh, it's THAT platform. Like >>31729623 said it just has a TM.

>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
Fuck, at this point I'm pretty sure they were going to remove the boxes from the house at one point and they were like "Nah, it would be funnier if we let them here forever as a running gag. Plus it'll be less work"

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>>31727007
I swear to god, if we don't get a third version that fixes everything I would lose every hope I got with GF

>>31729623
>>31729647
>>31729683
I know there's a TM out of it but it just seemed so oddly significant beyond simply finding an item. I'll live with it I guess.

>>31727007
JUST

Why ? Why does this game look so unfinished ? Did GF had a short ass deadline to deliver ?

>>31726781
I can explain this one: it's for the cutscene where you show your mom the starter you picked.

The other unused rooms, however, are things I don't know.

>>31727007
Someone should rip the textures of stuff like pictures and images that appear on computers. I get the impression that they must look higher quality as ripped images than on a 240p screen.

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This could just be me looking for more reasons to feel disappointed but does it bother anyone else that your shit is never put away after moving in and becoming the motherfucking Champion of the region?

>>31729754
>This game HAS to be out for the anniversary
>The missing data would be too much shit for the inferior 3DS platforms like 2DS to handle but they needed to be equally accessible to all to things were scrapped
>Gamefreak overall stopped trying to make filled with love and effort
A mix of all to be honest.

>>31729780
>So things were scrapped*
>games filled with love and effort*
I need sleep

>apologists STILL implying that SM isn't unfinished

this board is fucking cancer to be honest
Literally /jp/ tier

>>31729736
It's amazing how you managed to hold on this far.

>>31729780
You could argue that it was done so they could make a recurring joke, but it feels like the actual reason is that they couldn't be bothered to make an updated room.

Game Freak has always, ALWAYS been shit at programming and optimization. Look at the Generation I games, they're like a house of cards.

>>31726863
So that's a garage? Huh.

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>>31729801
Well, I mean overall I still enjoyed games like XY, ORAS and SM, but this is really the first time it's made so obvious that the game has a fuck load of unused zone, scenario element, and even misused things, like UBs not being boss battle during the main plot, or not showing Gladion's Type:Null evolving, I mean come on.
This games feels like they had ton of cool ideas, but they couldn't fit it in due to a short deadline, so they decided to put them quickly into random side quest or scrapped them completely.
I just prey for those game to have a third version where they had the time to put in everything they wanted to in the way they intended to. This is just me theorizing, but I'm sure GF still care about making Pokemon games, it's just that Nintendo are giving them way too short deadline. And while those deadline were manageable when they did 2d games, they just can't keep up this rythm if they want to do a decent 3d one...

>>31729736
I already lost hope after Lurantis dumped the rom so it could be mined.

How do you manage to warp to all those areas OP?
I'm also using a wallhack, but I can't figure out how to get into the garage.

>>31729854
>it's just that Nintendo are giving them way too short deadline
Don't blame Nintendo for GF's faults. Any other developer could have made SM better given the same amount of time.
And even if Nintendo pressured them for a game on the 20th anniversary, GF could have released Z since it would have required very little effort considering 75% of the assets would have been copypasted from XY.
GF was more incompetent than usual this time, as also proven by the copyright and starters leaks

>>31727039
I don't even think gen 6 had this much cut.

>>31727224
The limitations of the 3DS have nothing to do with those areas being removed you retard.

>>31729780
>>The missing data would be too much shit for the inferior 3DS platforms like 2DS to handle but they needed to be equally accessible to all to things were scrapped
You would have a point if it were battle assets but this is the overworld with their own load zones and everything. The 3DS would have been able to handle the additional areas easily especially given what it can do in other games.

Gamefrak just rushed it and went full hype culture for SM.

>>31729983
>All those reveals in just the trailers
They sucked SuMo's dick way too fucking hard and ruined what fun we could have had discovering everything on our own.

>>31726943
>>31725911 I ain't sure if the link works though, i'm on my phone

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If you walk around in the area where you first fight Lusamine, the containers sticking out of the wall have pokemon in them, too.

Also, the ticket on your table at the start is full of invalid characters.

>>31730016
Are you doing more requests?

>>31730001
It's sad that the series has reached such a state.

>>31730019
I will once I get home... 3 pm is when i'll start a new thread. I think it'll be named "Unfinished S/M: Nobody replied to my last thread edition" just keep an eye out for it.

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>>31730001
>they put so much in the trailers to hide the fact there wasn't much content to begin with

>>31730037
Also i suck at tripfagging, i'm too lazy to type it.

>>31727951
IT'S YOU AGAIN JESUS CHRIST STOP IT SM ARE NOT PERFECT WE GET IT BUT THEY'RE OKAY AND THE SAGA IS STILL GETTING BETTER JFC

>>31727320
>I genuinely hope it fails and Nintendo just makes a proper new handheld two years from now
If it fails they likely will just make phone games from now on

>>31727951
>this faggot again
Holly shit why do you even bother? It's clear you don't care about Pokemon, just go on /v/ so that you can get more praise there.

>>31727951
>waaaah too many cutscenes
>there wasn't even cutscenes for the tapus!

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>>31728833
The cave is real, it just has no "warp" or loading zone, if you try to walk in the door you get an invisible wall (at least they tried to scrap it) if you walk through the door using walk through walls, you get dark space, there may be something there but the camera angles make it difficult to see anything but the outside of the cave

>>31730053
Even it it flops nintendo has enough of a dedicated fanbase to make more profit than their phone games.

>>31727320
>>31730053
with it's price, and the price of games, the Switch will never do handheld numbers and will never be a replacement for a handheld. For people who buy both, it's great, but for people who game handheld only or just got a 2DS for $80 dollars, it wont mean shit to them.

Expect a Switch handheld in a year or two

>>31730081
not him but too many useless cut-scenes and not enough important cut-scenes is not contradictory.

>>31726863
Could this be from when Ride-Pokémon were vehicles?

>>31727080
you fucking autist, how much extra value does a bathroom add to a game?

>>31730186
enough to cry about a rushed release

>>31727007
>>31726991
Is GameFreak seriously so afraid of exploration now? Had SM been in an earlier generation, all of these locations definitely would've been in the final game.

>>31730186
Depends on what you do with the toilet. Remember this is a video game.

>>31730178
Imagine the day we get Pokemon: Cars Edition.

>Customisable
>Each badge let's you by better parts
>Transforms for all terrains
>Car battles are introduced
>Fight trainers while speeding down a freeway

>>31730199
Or maybe one Tapu would have been in Victory Road.

>>31730186
It's further proof that you bought an unfinished game. Listen, the sooner you accept that fact, the sooner we can stop bashing this shit game

>>31730186
Bathroom or not every room adds more to explore in an expanding world

>>31730209
or more full dungeons.

>>31730226
Full of strength puzzles that take 15 minutes each

>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
>/vp/'s tumblr userbase will defend this

>>31730238
I'll take 15 minute strength puzzles over SM's lack of dungeons any day.

>>31730238
>own house that has no purpose whatsoever
yeah, I will

>>31727007
Yeah this is probably the worst part about these games. Unlike literally every other game before fucking the jump to 3D, it was never an issue to tell or judge where you could and couldn't go. Because of the fucking feces fucking camera, lack of tiles, and the fucking awful graphics along with dozens of unfinished/scrapped locations, I'm constantly running into invisible walls and trying to get to areas you can see from an area but can't get to from that area so you try to find an alt. route, maybe something that you can't get to until later in the game or something of that ilk, or maybe it just looks like a path and the graphics are just shitty and the path you can't go down looks no different from a regular path, or, fucking whatever.

Fuck Gen VI. Fuck SM. Say what you want about any of the older games, I don't care, but these are absolute fucking dogshit.

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>>31730219
>the sooner we can stop bashing this shit game
>stop bashing this shit game

>>31730232
Better than SM's metric fuck ton of nothing.

>>31730295
Yeah those 30-40 hours for the main game were nothing at all

>>31730295
>he likes moving boulders
hahaha

>>31730186
You're not getting it. It's more about the idea that they had to remove things fore time, coupled with the fact that the overworld failed to live up to expectations due to being too streamlined, empty and disjointed. It's not specifically the bathroom, but a general lack of areas

>>31730232
>>31730249
I would definitely take a long puzzle over no puzzle. Sinnoh's Victory Road is god awful and I still prefer it to the one in Alola

>>31730309
I think it's Poke Pelago.

>>31730306
>30-40 hours
Please explain how.

>>31730306
Yes, they were. The game only has 9 towns, and 3 of them only have one building you can go into. It has one dungeon near the end of the game, and that's it. most of the routes are straight paths and there arent that many.

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>enable walk through walls
>get lost in the void of my house
I found the garage. I guess this is my home now.

I wish I hadn't seen all of this. It feels like I've been tricked into playing a beta version now that I know there was a lot more content that could've been included.

>>31730325
By not rushing the game like you did
>>31730331
>most of the routes are straight paths and there arent that many
That's not Sun and Moon at all

>>31730306
You mean 25 hours of game and 15 of unskippable exposition.

>>31730384
>That's not Sun and Moon at all
Do yourself a favour and post some comparison images next time you want people to believe you.

Of course it won't help you as much as reveal the truth.

>>31730384
In my experience, most of the routes were straight roads with patches of tall grass or a mostly empty coastline to either side, and there's only 17 of them. Even including Poni (which I shouldnt have to) just brings it to about 20.

There's a few good routes like the one next to Po Town but that's really it.

>>31730325
>>31730306
pretty much every game lasts this much

>>31730419
I don't need people to believe me, I played them and I don't have an hate boner like you lol
The game and the story itself is absolutely linear, the maps for the routes are the most fun and complex in the series thanks (in part) to the use of verticality

>>31730421
>pretty much every game lasts this much
Well if you do everything rather than continuing in gens 3 to 5 it should produce far more hours.

what about the golf course, the random golf trainers that appear only in the tree and kahili

the field looks big enough for a small jog filled with golfers trying to kick your shit in ala unova or hoenns desert ending in a flying type trial

>>31730446
>and complex in the series thanks (in part) to the use of verticality
You realise none of this applies to sun and moon right.
The verticality was also more of a visual gimmick rather than being one that produced any kind of worth while exploration due to how simple dungeon design became.

>>31730447
True only for sequels, Ruby/Sapphire and BW1 (arguably) had less content

>>31730462
I think you have no idea what you're talking about, anon

>>31730463
That's if you don't include things like contests, bases, the entralink even musicals and the like.

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>>31729913
No warps. Just go to your room and run far enough to the left or right.

Also:
>Make thread to show off some neat things I found
>Devolves into gen wars immediately

>>31730458
already posted

>>31730467
All you have to do is compare it to previous generations. It's painfully obvious how simple the game became in gen 7.

>>31729854
I know it feels that way but it's really not. GF generally that people don't care about extra content so they just stopped making it.

I'm not even kidding. There's an interview with Matsuda where he says the reason the battle frontier wasn't in the ORAS remakes was because only a small amount of players would appreciate it but most would get frustrated/bored with it. He blamed players today for being more easily flustered/not interested in something demanding or challenging as the main reason for not including it.

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>>31729780
>muh no more love and effort :((((
>literally pushed the system to such a point that they had to remove areas that were made with
>L O V E
>A N D
>E F F O R T

>>31730446
You should really stop replying to that guy.

Either way, I think Unova pulled off vertical routes much better than Alola does. I can understand if you find them fun but between the long routes of Sinnoh, the branching routes of Johto and the vertical routes of Unova, I dont think I'd call Alola's complex

>>31730447
what?

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>>31729913
To reach the garage, go to mom's room, then run south.
To reach the toilet, go to mom's room, then run East.
To reach the bath, go to the garage, then run west.

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something here seems a little off

>>31730502
Reminder this open field has the same shape found in Zygarde/Guzzlord's rooms

>>31730495
>>31730446

or at least not the most complex

>>31730495
Okay, I'll stop. Sinnoh had some really good ones even though I think it's more inconsistent than Alola overall, but I will agree that Unova has better ones. Route 23 is still one of my favorites.

>>31730480
>Gen 7

Don't you mean 6? XY was when the simplicity and hand holding started.

In these situations, I always feel bad for the people actually making these games, being rushed by higher ups saying "we need this game out by Christmas".

>>31730515
Gen 6 had a level design more reminiscent of previous generations in that caves weren't always straight lines. While they were simpler than before they didn't reach the levels of Sun and Moon.

On top of that it had a few more aesthetically diverse locations.

>>31730484
I can understand that they didn't make the Battle Frontier (Understand doesn't mean I agree though) because, yeah, casuals would try this 10 minutes and give up.
But here it's different, it feels like part of the story line were severly cut, same for random explorable zone. I mean, we have a replica of Terminus Cave and there's no Zygarde fight or interaction, instead we have a Guzzlord fight, without any overworld model present, like they just decide to put it here because they didn't have the time to include a proper UB storyline in the main story, or a proper Zygarde side quest.
It really feels like those games were full of ideas, and everything went horribly wrong because they had to deliver before Christmas

>>31730529
I doubt they were even rushed that much since they had a 2 year dev time. Unless they literally just faffed about for a year.

>>31730502
Oh son of a bitch, Sun is huge! HUGE!

>>31730514
Oh Sinnoh's are definitely more inconsistent. Alola may have some bland routes but Sinnoh has some that are just shit.

While playing BW for the first time I noticed how short the Unova ones were generally, but they made up for it with how often you went up or down. Alola is in a similar boat, I just think they did it a bit less good.

>>31726922
They're probably saving this feature for gen 8/stars or whatever

Not OP. A quick rundown of the unaccessible areas at lake of the moone.
https://transfer.sh/7BX9L/vid.webm

>>31730563
>People will cry we lost this even though it's literally nothing

>>31730563
Fuck I want this in Pokemon Eclipse

>>31730572
You cant fathom the idea that maybe something is supposed to be there? These games arent worth you defending them so hard. They're good, but not that good

If you clip through the Wela Volcano, there's SOMETHING in the black, but it's too far away to tell what it actually is.

>>31730495
This is a general idea of Alola's fun and complex routes
>Straight Path with option to walk in wild grass or face a trainer
>Sometimes you can walk a few inches to the left or right into a small corner to pick up an item and go right back to the straight path
>A significant dungeon area you need to overcome? Well here's the summit/exit just a short walk in
>Surf areas are simply public pools with one or two islets with an item, sometimes one behind rocks you need waste time to come back and crush
>Don't forget to come back to come back when you have strength so you can waste even more time pushing rocks in a holes and picking up more meaningless items.

Really fucking fun

>>31730502
Sun2Moon2 original protag battle confirmed

>>31730572
>unaccessible doors literally every fuckingwhere
>that corridor with all the doors
It's hinting at that they wanted to add something there. If they actually expanded it it would've probably been a cool dungeon.

>>31730588
You're saying that like we actually use those ridemons more than two or three times the whole game

The lack of TMs should have invited more puzzles, not less

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>>31730596
>>31730584
Where the fuck would the dungeon be? Inside the lake?

>>31730625
It doesnt have to be a dungeon, it could be a character interaction, story elements, ore just things put on the outsides.

Or it could actually be in the lace. a cave behind a waterfall r something.

Or maybe the overworld map was made after the rest of the games so they ignored putting the cave on the Rotomdex.

I dont even care much, but I'm not going to ignore how that looks and the possibilities behind it

>>31730625
Considering the altar is a bowl with some kind of castle in front of it, yes. You could do some kind of rooms like the sunken ship in ORAS for the castle and something interesting with the entrances shown in the video, which seem to be entrances leading down into the bowl.
That's just minimal effort, but would've made the place more interesting.

I hope you guys consider posting these and showing others how much was cut in these games.

I mean shit like the toilet isn't important but all these cut caves make me sad.

>>31730643
>>31730644
I'm sorry guys but you look way too deeply into things that were never meant to be.
Remeber those spots where you could walk through trees in BW2? CUT DUNGEONS I GUESS! WHAT A SHIT GAME!

>>31729736
lol what would they even call it? eclipse?

>>31730644
>we'll never have remnants of the royal family form a religion around Solgaleo and Lunala at the lake

>>31730653
Yeah because a glitch is totally the same as several textured but inaccessible areas.

>>31730657
Yes, I mean, that sounds better than stars, since, you know, the sun is a star and everything

>>31730653
I'm not asking for a lot. I'm just asking for a place that does more than the cosmog event. It's name and appearance get your hopes way too high only to disappoint with the actual content.

Put this shit on TCRF.

>>31730653
>Look too deeply into things
>6 generations of satisfyingly wide and complex exploring of areas
>We suddenly expect to much when we complain about the region being a boring straight and barrow literal walk in the fucking park

>>31730653
Nobody denies the cut locations in GSC or DP are definitely cut locations. Like the road to the east of Goldenrod, or how Mahogany Town used to be where Lake of Rage was. It's a fully textured area and a rather large one at that.

The difference is those regions still had enough content for their time. People wouldnt be looking for content in Alola if it had enough in the first place.

Whirl Islands was an entire network of caves with Lugia in it's own room. We get an Altar of comparable size here but it's all a giant nothing.

>>31730534
>get to victory road equivalent in S&M
>"Oh boy, better stock up on potions and make sure I'm prepared for thi-"
>It's two literal hallways that both lead to the exit

At least the E4 were a little more challenging than usual.

>>31730696
It's SMfag.
He takes any and all criticism as a personal insult.

Basically he's our ACfag.

>>31730703
Pokemon League was suprisingly one of the least disappointing thing in the game

>>31730708
He's like those shill cocksuckers who go "It's THEIR game guys, you have no right to criticize THEIR ideas and decisions, they can do whatever they want!"

>>31730708
Ad hominem, faggot. If you don't have anything to say, get the fuck out

>>31730708
No it's not. It's probably just some average anon. Lots of pokefags are like that for their preferred/favorite gen

>>31730703
>At least the E4 were a little more challenging than usual.

I wish. I solo'd them with Primarina running Shadow Ball, Ice Beam, Aria and MoonBlast.

>>31730725
He says while resorting to an ad hom.
Seriously though, the proof is in the pudding SMfag the game has been simplified to the point where a baby couldn't get lost.

>>31730708
Not really

>>31730732
>while reporting to an ad hom
Literally how? The argument is already here >>31730696
And this >>31730708 is not an argument.
>The game has been simplified
I wouldn't have a problem with that, but the number of cut areas are upsetting.

>>31730727
Most average anons can accept the flaws of a game including the average SM starter.
SMfag is literally incapable of doing so.

>>31730698
they still hvae enough content even for nowin my opinion
if we got GSC levels of content i would have been much happier with the game overall

I wish the beach part of Ten Carat Hill in the demo was in the game. It's so much bigger than other places in Alola.

>>31730682
The sequels will be Pokemon Stars and Pokemon Clouds

>>31730206
>Car battles are introduced
>Fight trainers while speeding down a freeway
Sounds about as good as playing a card game on motorcycles

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>>31731174
If i think about it...something like this with actual time limit could be interesting. not like "The food is ready in 8 turns" but "You have 5 minutes. the more trainer you beat the more points you´ll get."

>>31729678
They wouldn't until the inevitable Super Pokemon Maker™ for Switch
Anyway, I'd be up for Gen 2 style game anytime.

>>31730682
The issue was probably lost in translation. The name would supposed to be "Hoshi", which means "star", "planet" or just "celestial body". But all names are in english since Gen 3 (even Gen 1 and Gen 2 names were changed to english) so was translated as "stars" (if Pokemon Stars actually is the new game)

>>31731174
>Sounds about as good as playing a card game on motorcycles
yugioh? god, that was shit.

>>31727055
Nothing. People are just finding more reasons to bitch.

That said though, these are really complete areas. It's as if they decided to downsize the protagonist's house at the very last minute. Just really fucking weird.

>>31726924
If they were lazy they wouldn't have made it, retard.

>>31731917
The logic of a retard.
Minimum effort for maximum gain is literally what GF have done here by shoveling out such a poorly made game.

>>31727263
It's probably stored there for the cutscenes where you show it to your mom

>>31730494
See >>31729962

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>all these cut outs from the extra rooms in the house to the complete removal of triple/rotation battles and left out running models
>just to hit a deadline on an ancient peice of hardware that can't even take multiple models being on screen at once
>everything about GF's "competence".
Never thought that I would see a game THIS unfinished. And I can't even bring the entire DLC argument since this is GF we're talking about. I knew GS had a lot of it cut out as well, but that was nearly 18 years ago.

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>>31732415
>>just to hit a deadline on an ancient peice of hardware that can't even take multiple models being on screen at once
Oh the 3DS can certainly do that if given Smash, Monster Hunter and various other games that do it fairly easily.
The problem is that GF decided to make models with a poly count so absurdly high that could chug a vita.

>>31732445
Holly shit.

>>31727039
RBY GS, RS, DP. Lots of them.

>>31732491
He said "that much" this is the first time so much content was cut from the game. Oftentimes it's just small things like items and abilities that were made redundant like Cacophony or the Loot Sack.

>>31732458
And if you look at the SM announcement trailer you can see that GF haven't changed their ways at all.

ITT retards don't understand every game has unused assets

>>31732491
What was cut from the previous games weren't as visible as the numerous things that has been cut in SM.
Here you can see what path they've blocked, plus there is a lot more things cut. What was cut from RS appart from the ability to encounter the Beast Trio and Shellos ?

Is there a guide to access all of this areas?

>>31732644
>ITT retards can't see the difference between unused assets and cutting obvious things that are still visible in game
Fixed it, seriously, it's not like you need to datamine the game to see that certain zone were cut, they are right under our nose, there's just something blocking the path. I still enjoyed SM, but that's the first time that a Pokemon game had so much cut content !

>>31730703
More challenging than Gen 6 and 5 but that's it

>>31730853
Not for me. The dungeons are simplified, the towns are empty and there is not much to do since Battle Royal and Festival Plaza suck

>>31732415
It's more GF than the hardware

>>31732644
The unused assets wouldnt be so bad if the used ones were good

>>31732650
Shellos was gonna be Gen 3?

>>31732766
It's a rumor but there was apparently meant to be one more pokemon line given the unused cry.

>>31732766
>"In the May 2007 issue of Nintendo Power, Junichi Masuda stated "There's also a sea-slug Pokémon that we weren't able to put in Ruby and Sapphire that we were able to put in this one, Pokémon Diamond and Pearl", which likely suggests that Shellos and/or Gastrodon (existing sea-slug Pokémon) were planned for Generation III instead of Generation IV."

>>31730186
It makes it more realistic. Why does the house have NO bathroom?

>>31731174
I feel old for getting that reference.

>>31732813
It's not that old.

>>31732813
>I feel old for getting that reference.
It was 9 years ago, are you 12 ?

>>31732826
Atleast 6 years or am i messing time up?

>>31732445
What the hell... why did they think that amount of Polygons on such a low-resolution device is even necessary?

>>31732813
It was pretty memorable due to how retarded it was

>>31732839
9 years is like nearly 10 years which is a lot

>>31726781
Game developers frequently put things outside the scope of where they expect you to be looking for mechanics purposes.

Take Morrowind, for example, if you go into a shop and they sell a lot more than what you see in the shop, there's usually a container on the backside of one of the walls in the negative space that holds all the other shit they sell.

Same idea here.

>>31732874
We knew this anon.
Right now we're on the large amount of cut areas still within the game.

>>31730510
And that's the place where you find Necrozma.

>>31732694
>empty spaces in a house
>content
You autists will latch on anything to criticize

Did it ever occur to you that they decided to stop working on the idea because they realized it wouldn't have added anything to the game? It happens a lot in games

>>31726781
the game is so ducking incomplete. dont have the national dex, lots of glitches in gts, there is not communication with other playes like the PSS in XY/ORAS, only 81 new pokemon, dont have gym, the elite 4 is so easy, the champion is the professor and also have Multiple personality, the z moves are so tedious, lots of islands, pokepelago is a useless place and that guy are so annoying

the game is a total bullshit

>>31733032
>It happens a lot in games
Not of this size and scope however seeing as unlike the cases in most other games these for the most part were fully textured and had load zones meaning they were removed fairly late in development.

>>31733032
I'm not talking about the house anon (Even though it's kind of frustrating to not being able to visit your entire house).
I'm talking about shit like the Temple where you get Cosmog, this shit screams dungeon, but instead the path you can take are blocked by rocks and the zone is nothing but a straight line. Same for the Volcano, I'm pretty sure there were suppose to be something in there but instead it just teleports you on top, the path to go down that same volcano after the trial is longer than the path to go up to it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, I mean, just look at this : >>31727007
This game was meant to have so much more thing, it hurts

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>>31733032
>Did it ever occur to you that they decided to stop working on the idea because they realized it wouldn't have added anything to the game? It happens a lot in games

Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's not just the goddamn fucking house? Did it ever occur to you that maybe these idiots couldn't model a few decent fucking dungeons? Did you even read this thread or did you just pick and choose for your narrative. Forget the house for a moment. Look at the golf course, the Lake of the Sunne/Moone, the "cave" that instantly warps you up that even has an NPC right after it that heals your mons and pretends you went through someone, the straight line of a Victory Road, the dummied out Akala Meadow location header and all the numerous cave entrances scattered throughout the game where the only used caves are incredibly simple save for one lategame cave. Are you gonna tell me you're perfectly okay with a game that clearly fucking lacked good dungeons to lose all of this because "you autists will latch on anything to criticize"? Maybe they're criticizing this because maybe. just maybe the shitload of cut areas could have made exploration and travel in this game a lot more and fleshed out than the oversimplicity we got? Can you people not just fucking accept that GF clearly cut corners like hell with this game? Fuck I don't even hate the game, at least not as much as you retards who write off every complaint with the game as "contrarian" or "Pokemon has always been x" or "lol autist". You people are the reason we're gonna see hallway-like shit like Ultra Space instead of fun shit like the Distortion World. I'm glad people like OP and Generous Anon are posting proof of cut locations simply so there's hard evidence that faggots like you will have to accept that there's at least some evidence of rushing in these games.

Go eat shit, I even ordered your favorite kind, Ohmori flavor.

>>31729775
But why does it stay there after that for the entire game?

>>31733197
Why would they bother to remove them if you're not suppose to see them ? That's just basic coding "optimisation". There's no point in checking if they should be put in or not, it would just increase the loading time (by almost nothing but still).

>>31733139
Aro you OK anon??

>>31733277
Optimization would be simply unloading it when it's done it's job rather than have the asset be loaded in off screen.

>>31733324
I don't really know how game developping works. But I guess that there's litterally no benefit in writting more lines of code for a thing that players aren't suppose to see ingame

>>31733139
Boy you'd be surprised by all the unused stuff in pretty much every game. Not everything is cutting corners.

>>31733429
Are you talking about Pokemon or games in general ?
If you're talking about Pokemon, yes, there's been cut content before, but not as much and as obvious as in SM. I mean, it's clearly visible in certain area. That would not be a problem if the game still had many content, but the number of caves and dungeon is underwhelming compared to all the other games.

If you're talking about video games in general, well... That's the same thing, usually cut content in game is not really an issue because, the game still has a lot of content to play with. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that what's happening with SM is not happening with other video games. But the game still truly feels like it's half of what it should be...

>>31733517
When I played through SM I never got the feeling that it was rushed or that the region wasn't fleshed out enough. I didn't hear any complaints when it first came out either. And now because unused assets are found, which is normal, the game is incomplete and cut corners? This is making a big deal over nothing

I wonder if tcrf has covered any of this.
They have the numerous cut areas from gen 4 but I haven't checked since then.

>>31733561
I don't know for you but... I had that feeling while playing this game, don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed and liked SM even now.
But when I realised that you're teleported up to the volcano instead of going through a cave, I thought it was a shame, but I didn't care less.
Same when I visited the Suune/Moone Lake, it was really sad to see that beautiful place, and just walk in a straight line while all the other way was blocked by some rocks. It's not like it's subtle, the rocks are only in front of the doors and nowhere else. I wanted so bad to explore that place but, there was nothing.
This is not really "a big deal over nothing", it's like telling you that in, ORAS you just have to enter the Sky pillar and you're teleported to the top (Even though they did dumbed down the Sky Pillar, but it wasn't that bad, and the soundtrack was pretty nice). Or discovering that Cerulean cave is now just a straight line to Mewtwo, that would just be a shame because, the sense of exploration that was present in the game since gen V would no longer be here.

>>31733561
>This is making a big deal over nothing
It would be if it were a few minor items that lost their use like say a pass to do Royals but these are fairly large areas that are fully textured and have collision detection that were obviously planned to be areas in the game given the blocked paths to these areas.

>>31733616
>They have the numerous cut areas from gen 4
I wouldn't call 3 houses and a redesign numerous.

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>>31732415
>>31733039
>>31733139
>>31730732
>>31730708
>>31730785
Glad to see /vp/ reach universal agreement that SuMo is onw of the worst games of all time and drive away all of the shills.

>>31730081
>>31730079
>>31730052
>>31729606
>>31728012
You're not fooling anyone with your samefagging, SuMofag.

>>31733694
Swap Zelda with Horizon.

>>31733694
Not even agreeing with the picture but how the hell is Xenoblade 2 even gonna work.

>>31733773
An anti existence kidnaps Alvis and attemps to destroy the universe but Alvis manages to send his powers to new kid in the form of a sword that becomes sentient.

It's Xenoblade, anything can happen.

>>31733683
There were more than those anon.

>>31733808
Those are the only cut areas unless you're counting HG/SS' leftovers from DPPt.

>>31733836
I said gen 4 in general but here's just DP.
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl
At least 9 areas.

>>31733855
Are you just counting the images without reading them? Because some of those are just textures

The only cut areas are:
The Sunyshore house
The Condo floors
And the Oreburgh house

>>31733878
Did you not even watch the videos?
The odd test area
2 condo floors
Sunnyshore house
5 areas in Oreburgh, and yes, if we are counting stuff like the bathrooms as separate, the 5 areas do count as separate.

There is also the hallway of creation in Pt, among other things like these
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum/Unused_Maps

>>31733878
Even if I don't think they mattered much, that anon is right. Gen 4 had a shitload of cut areas, so much that the wiki that they linked has separate pages dedicated to the cut areas.
Fucking Jubilife had a gym.

>>31733905
>https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum/Unused_Maps
Not him but you do realise most if not all of the ones here were redesigned right and them implemented in game right. For some reason GF thought it was a good idea to leave the stuff from earlier builds in the final game.

>>31726781
>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886

So these games were rushed for the holidays I suppose.

>>31733945
Indeed, but many of them simply are unnaccessible.
Also these
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver/Unused_Maps

All pokemon games have tons of cut content really, I don't see how it's surprising that the newer ones continue the tradition.

>>31733964
Speaking of cut content, were the regi dolls ever fully given out for ORAS? I only remember the Regice being accessible.

I'm glad I'm not a cuck who bought an unfinished, half-assed game. Never in my life have I ever felt so good for being a piratefag.

>>31733964
I've never heard of this site before.
What do the other games have cut?
It seems like a lot of shit gets cut from every pokemon game, why don't they just optimize it or finish some of this shit. You think they would've learned since the early gens.

>>31733998
I feel the same about all the Pokemon games.
Seeing shit like >>31733964 irritates the shit out of me and I'm glad I used an r4 for that shit and cfw for this shit. Why is gf so dumb

>>31726781
who cares you fucking autists, it's actually better than the game was made shorter so that i could end it faster and go back playing Pokemon GO

>>31732843
I'm not defending this, but I think they were already planning to use those models in future games too. A lower polygon count would make them age bad.

Is vp seriously THIS out of touch with modern gaming? Every game has this shit in them. Recently FFXV had an entire open world section cut out and only used in the background of a train sequence.

I get that it's trolling because of the "LEL Sun and Moon suck" maymay but some people seem pretty damn convinced it's just incompetence.

>>31734087
Read this >>31733139 and eat Ohmori flavoured shit please

>>31734087
>I get that it's trolling because of the "LEL Sun and Moon suck"
No, it's because, unlike FFXV, Pokemon SM has not that much content to begin with, so seeing a part of it scrapped while they were almost fully exploitable is kind of infuriating. I wanted to visit Lake Suune/Moone, I wanted to explore the volcano, that cave in Brooklet Isle, I wanted to explore the region, but a part of it is locked away from us, and it's such a shame.
I liked SM but the game feels like it was going to be bigger than it really was because they had to release it before Holliday.
Read the thread, people already responded way better than I did like this guy
>>31733139

>>31734087
/vp/ is out of touch with their own series and won't accept that every fucking pokemon game has stupidly high amounts of cut content.
By all rights, yes they should've improved.
But idiots are acting like this shit is new, when this is just business as usual for GF.

>>31734087
>Game sucks shit and is bare bones as fuck
>Oh hey look at all the shit they neglected to fucking give
Yeah this shit happens to games all the time, sometimes those games are still fucking good despite that. But SunMoon has been the worst fucking main pokemon game to date and we're staring at exactly the reason why.

Hmm, most of these seem pretty inconsequential but the golf course makes me as mad as the cut Jubilife gym in gen 4. Fuck.

>>31733694
>Mighty n°9 released in 2016
This make this pic instantly wrong

So much for the 20th anniversary game. Marketing went like we would experience something amazing. Plus after gen 6 and 2, maybe more, years of development, everyone expected GF to fix their mistakes and improve what was good.

Guess I'll be sticking with BW2 for one more year.

>tfw experiencing an improved (usually graphically) game makes it difficult for me to enjoy older series titles
>not allowed to like SM on /vp/ but HGSS is boring af to me now and BW2's online is dead
pls help

>>31726825
>>31726863
>>31726886
Just a thought, but what if these were going to be a way to access different Rotom forms in the future? Seems interesting cause gamefreak always has the assets hidden in a game before they "unlock" them in a future patch and stuff like that. That looks like a washing machine in the one pic, and blow dryer in the bathroom, lawn mower in the garage. Theres already a kitchen for oven and fridge. Idk I just always thought it was peculiar that rotom was so prevalent in the game

>>31734406
But anon, I like SM too, I'm just disappointed that this game could be so much better if more time was put into it

>>31734406
No matter how much new shit comes out I'm always happy to play an Emerald romhack.

>>31734436
I feel that way about a lot of stuff I guess. At least you're enjoying the game though.
>>31734411
I guess they just relegated the appliance to Kukui's house because he takes care of Rotom.