A team of shitmons defeated my boring, copy-pasted team of 600

Garchomp is too big to fall.

>people dedicate entire teams to counter said strategy
>They still can't break it
That's why it got banned, bucko.

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>batonpass teams
Anon, please don't bring back these horrible memories.

>>31703086
>baton pass
>strategy
Maybe if you consider following a flow chart to be strategic.

>>31703086
What exactly are you trying to say here? I legitimately can't tell.

>Mew
>Smeargle
>Ninjask
>Vaporeon
>Espeon
>Shitmon
???

>>31703143
>people dedicate entire teams to counter said strategy
No they don't, they keep whining while hugging their copy pasted 600 BST team.

That's Smogon in a nutshell.

>>31703086
>why can't i use my yiffy waifu ;(((

You have to go back.
>>>/f/uraffinity

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>>31703196
This makes no sense.

>>31703192
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-110739069
retard

>>31703086
Keldeo doesn't have a bst of 600 and you're still retarded smugbonnie

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>>31703237
>stall team

>>31703086
Dedicated baton pass teams are just as unoriginal as hyper-offensive cookie-cutter teams.

>>31703458
t. Smogoncuck

>31703482
You're not even worthy of a (You) nor a bump

>>31703489
I bet you're the kind of person who gets triggered when their Landorus fails to set up Stealth Rock because the opponent has a Sableye.

>31703511
>implying I use landorus im the first place
2/10, made me reply, but still sage

>>31703187
It's another copypasted team based on stored power. Pretty tame of you can trap smearlge/ ninjask

>>31703086
then they're not exactly shitmons, now are they?

you're probably the type of retard who thinks smogon should make an exception to banning blaziken and greninja just because
>b-but they're muh starter bro ;_;

>>31703780
>pass defense boosts, ingrain and substitute
>they're not shitmons

>>31703780
They shouldn't be banned at all. They're not even that strong.

>>31703817
>baton pass team is good because they pass boosts
No fucking shit, retard.

>>31703237
And? Stall takes zero skill
Fuck off smogoncuck

>>31703886
So does Baton Pass you mentally ill avatarfaggot.

>>31703886

Beating stall takes zero skill as well.

>Use taunt
>Win

>Use wallbreaker
>Win

Stop complaining about a shit team archetype.

>>31704026
If one wallbreaker or 1 taunt destroys your stall then either you or your team is shit

>>31703237
yes of course. Give the BPs even more time to set up by stalling them.

10/10 would totally counter BP like that

Baton pass was the beta meta

>>31704026
>Use taunt
>Win

Sableye says hi.

>Use wallbreaker
>Win

Dugtrio says hi. Even then, stall can easily drain the PP of the thing until it's useless.

>>31703143
>That's why it got banned, bucko.

Not yet, but at this point the banhammer's gonna be inminent. They literally wasted 2 pages in the metagame discussion thread trying to come up with a way to beat Scolipass, to the point they started to suggest niche stuff like Specs Primarina & infiltrator Crobat.

>>31706707
>beta meta
Meant best meta kek

>>31703886
Wrong. Stall may be easy to pick up and win initially, but it takes skill if you wanna become a true cancer master. (AKA knowledge about stuff that can taunt you, lures, Z-Stone users, stuff that can trick a wall with Choice Scarf, etc.). There's also the fact that you must have a lot of time and be a VERY PATIENT DUDE(TTE), 'cause some matches can take you quite a long time. (AKA stall vs stall)

In comparison, Scolipass is borderline mindless due to how easy is to use and how quick it get wins. The only con that archetype has is that it can get quite boring due to the lack of an actual challenge it creates.

>>31703196
What the fuck is with people and jumping to conclusions on this board? Seriously, people will jump to conclusions that are so Farfetch'd that it's actually ridiculous.

just use shado-
>arena trap is banned by smogon
>shadow tag is banned by smogon

smogon is it's own worst enemy, they deserve this

>>31709237
>arena trap is banned
Except it isn't, yet

>>31709237
>Shadow Tag
>affecting Baton Pass

>>31709237
Nether of those things affect BP, and Arena trap isn't even banned.

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>Toxic
RIP Baton Pass chain.

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>>31709326
>magic bounce

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>>31709356
>Mold Breaker

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>>31709237
>doesn't know shit about game mechanics
>this is the kind of person who hates le evul smogon

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>People conplain about Baton Pass
>mfw I have a Mismagius with Focus Sash and Perish Song
>mfw it works EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.

It never seizes to amaze me how butthurt people get when their chain has ten trillion boosts, and gets Perish Song/Protect stalled.

>>31709412
Found the smogcuck

>>31709417
Is it fair that you have to essentially have a mon devoted to killing itself just to stop it?

I don't side either way but think about it

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>/vp/ talking about competitive

I bet even shitholes like gameFAQs have less sub-1200 shitters than this place

>>31709417
>has to carry shitmon that is absolute deadweight outside of specific circumstance to counter 1 play style

lmao@urlife

>>31709438
We ran Perish Song to stop Snorlax from rolling all over us in gen 2.

We would also use Baton Pass Mean Look Umbreon to do it with other annoying Pokemon.

Players nowadays are pussies. There's no such thing as "unfair" if it has counters.

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>>31709450

>>31709463
Primal Groudon should drop to OU because Cloud Nine Golduck beats it.

>>31709485
No it doesn't. Groudon can just switch out.

It's a different situation than having your whole team strategy ruined by certain things.

Your shitpost is invalid.

>>31709417
Can't they just setup pebbles?

>>31709527
How?

Gliscor learns it I guess, but then you'd have no offensive moves.

Remember when they tried to ban Attract last gen?

>>31703237
>Special attackers when BP boosts SDef.
>Didn't immediately set up entry hazards to deal damage on all the switches.
Yeah, that team was TOTALLY designed just to counter BP.

>>31703237
What does Gothitelle contribute to an anti-BP team?
Seriously, if you know something I don't I would really like to hear it.

>>31703237
>Scolipede
>Swords Dance
>Sub
>Baton Pass to Cinncinno
>Tail Sweeps the whole team.

How could BP deal with this?
I'm a newb, so there may be something I'm missing, but a +2 Cincinno can kill everything on that team through a sub in one Tail Slap.

>>31711517
Trick Scarf I guess

>>31711349
Good times