>Decidueye will be outclassed by Dhelmise >Incineroar will

I don't get it. What happened?

>>31699708
UU usage stats and either falseflagging or sperging. I mean, I'm glad some of the anti-Decidueye spam will die down, but I'm hoping it won't be replaced with excessive falseflagging.

>>31699696
>Owl and sealfriends
I genuinely cannot tell between falseflagging and owlshitters anymore

>>31699696
>Incineroar is garbage without Intimidate

No shit

>>31699696
>Slow tank
>No recover
>Useless ability
No shit. I kept tolding this shit would happen in the anti-Decidueye threads.

>Incineroar will be UU with VGC usage
You know VGC usage doesn't count in UU. If you meant VGC usage overall then Incineroar is used quite a bit there

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>>31699696
>seal friends
>with the obnoxious owl fans who shat on the popplio line AND litten lines constantly

Nice try there champ.

>>31699696

>none of the starters are competitively viable

Just as God intended. Maybe Incineroar will reach Greninja/Charizard-level viability once it gets its hidden ability, but starters are for friends, not fight.

>>31699813
Yeah, but Dhelmise is still fun. I have a blast using Anchor Shot/Toxic/Protect/Phantom Force.

>>31699843
Intimidate is good, but it's not Tough Claws-good, and it definitely isn't anywhere near Protean-good.

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>>31699696
I'm not your friend, buddy.

>>31700000
I'm not your buddy, guy

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>>31699696
Starter wars are for idiots and real owlbros aren't like that. Stop falseflagging.
And Incineroar will be good in VGC once it's HA gets released.

any word on when the HA releases?

>>31699841
That literally never happened. We just shat on the littenfags, and littenfags deserves to get shat on. Falseflaggers are not owlfriends.

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>>31700000
Quints of truth. Falseflaggers and owl shitposters fuck off

>>31699696
Ok, maybe people were a little overzealous when they said Dhelmise > Decidueye, but make no mistake: Incineroar WILL be used more once its HA gets released, as its the only one who's HA is worth a damn.

>>31700179
>Incineroar WILL be used
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>31700179
It's still kinda shit, though. Unless you're talking VGC, it will be really good there for sure.

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>False flagging will never ever stop for as long as I live

I guess I can get used to people projecting their hatred towards owlfags, including myself, even though many are not involved in this colossal mess.

If I don't go insane by then.

God bless those who are smart enough to tell false flaggers and posts with intention apart. Those are the people that keep me sane.

>>31700185
I said used MORE, not overused. Besides, its kind of hard to look down on something that has really solid defenses, great attack, intimidate and fake out, making Incineroar a prime assault vest candidate.

>>31700209
It's easy to look down on barashit that has no moves nor good stats.

>>31700209
It also has a shitty defensive typing.

>>31700233
>No moves
Fake Out, Flare Blitz, Leech Life, U-Turn Darkest Lariat, Bulk Up, Roar, Cross Chop, Taunt, Earthquake, Snarl
It's got access to plenty of good attacking moves and a handful of useful utility. It's got options. I picked the owl too but now you're just making yourself look dumb.

>>31700233
>>31700242
Not him but it has all the moves it needs in doubles and the typing is useful there too

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>>31700203
Stay sane, owlfag-friend. I don't get why so many people still try to build tension between the starters.

>>31700287
You wish. It still won't see any usage in doubles or VGC ever, even with Intimidate. It's just a shitty Arcanine.

>>31700233
>flare blitz
>fake out
>darkest lariat
>U-turn
>Leech life
>Cross chop
>Earthquake
>no moves

And on the subject of stats, Decidueyes are worse because they're all over the place to the point it can't do one thing efficiently (especially in regards to that useless 100 special attack) yet people love to praise it. At least once you look at Incineroars base stats its pretty clear what role he's meant to be built for. Decidueye's stats are so poorly distributed it can't do anything right. Its physical defense is complete and utter trash, its 100 base special attack isn't ever going to be used, its special movepool is nonexistent and its speed is mediocre at best.

"Oh but its faster than Incineshit and Tumblrina!" By what, 10 points? And not even having the defenses to back it up?

>>31700303
But it does already, even without Intimidate. Not tremendous but not bad at all

>>31700284
>Leech Life
>Cross Chop

Don't run fucking Leech Life on Incineroar. Cross Chop is bad, but it doesn't have any other fighting type options with power.

>>31700303
You do realize that Incineroar is doing well already in VGC, even without intimidate, right? And I say this as a Primarinafag

>>31699738
Both.

It's, like, double falseflagging. Owlers go full retard because they know people will assume they're being ironic and the backlash will be reduced.

We're reaching meta levels here.

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>>31700000
Checked.

>>31700303
You sound mad. Did a Littenchad cuck you out of your oneitis, you nu-male cuck?

You know it's bad when owlfags and falseflaggers try to build up rapport with sealfriends and get shat on hard.

Catbro here saluting sealfriends for not taking the obvious bait.

>>31700563
You're OP aren't you?

>>31700579
God I hope not, there's easier ways to attack Incineroar than this.

I differentiate between cool owlbros and dumb owlfags.

Starterfags are retarded because all three are trash

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Glad to see that it is still way too easy to bait you.
Never change, /vp/

>>31700666
ebin

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>>31700000
Quints of truth

>>31700563
Same here. Sealfags are cool. Though to be honest I feel sorry for owlfags for being this generalized. There are legit nice people who don't deserve it there. I know because sometimes I visit owl threads with some Incineroar x Decidueye x Primarina art and they're generally nice and not aggressive about it

>>31700049
I don't think Lele will allow it to be honest, the same way that Fini stops Primarina from being used despite being so good.

Without the Tapus and UBs all starters would be good. It's a shame.

>>31700684
Right? Incineroar threads have had a nice influx of owlbros commenting and being cool and I feel bad starter wars were ever a thing.

Curiously, I feel each evolved starter is a bit too humanoid in its own ways, but this is the way GF moves on now and I've learned to deal with it.

>>31700713
Maybe Choice Specs Primarina will be worth using instead of Choice Specs Fini once (if...) Liquid Voice gets released?

>>31700284
Arcanine has most of these plus actual recovery

>>31700798
Nobody uses choice specs Fini tho

>>31700822
I'm talking VGC.
Choice Specs 42.471%, most common item on Fini.

>>31700798
In VGC maybe. Although Fini shuts down Koko's terrain, unlike the seal.

>>31700848
That also mean that you can run Primarina+another Tapu, though. I don't know, it seems like a more offensive variant of Fini and may have its own merits. I guess it doesn't really matter until Liquid Voice releases.

>>31700739
Yeah I hope owlbros can pull through. As for starters I really enjoy more humanoid designs since they are your partners and it's easier to feel partnership when it's humanoid. + it allows them to have personalities and stuff