Ok /vp/ It's time for another good idea bad idea. GOOD

Why?

Doesn't make much sense. It better not be the "legendary means the pokemon is overpowered" meme.

Good idea: grassium z solar beam fire type
Bad idea: that fire type is a mixed naive typhlosion

>>31694299
good idea: giving vikavolt 130 sp.attack
bad idea: 43

>>31694543
Sigh

Could do another one about crabominable

GOOD IDEA: Buffing many shitmons
BAD IDEA: Making legendaries that break the game the same gen

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>>31694507
Lol stay mad faggot.

>>31694642
Stay underage, faggot.

GOOD IDEA: Nerfing Gale Wings to stop activating below a certain percentage of HP
BAD IDEA: Nerfing Gale Wings to stop activating below 100% of HP

GOOD IDEA: Introducing a way to increase IVs manually
BAD IDEA: Making that process as retarded as possible

>>31694776
GOOD IDEA: Being proud of your Pokemon
BAD IDEA: Lying on the internet about it
>This thing singlehandedly got a 40+win streak at the battle tree, and has taken on shit like garchomp, chrizard y, peliper, and the tapus online.

GOOD IDEA: Make a generation full of mons designed for Trick Room
BAD IDEA: STILL don't introduce a room extender item/auto-trick room ability

>>31694802
I didn't lie kid and I don't have to prove shit to you or anyone else. I know what the results were, that's good enough. Wasn't the thread about what Z-move to use? Then It got overrun with spergs like you spouting le smogon sets meme.

Literally all the complains jn this thread are fixed in VGC, but no, you need to play the babby "let's switcheroo for 20 minutes till a pokémon dies so my sweeper can waltz through" singles game.

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>>31694802
>singlehandedly
>garchomp
Please tell me he's joking
>4 Atk Typhlosion Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 13-16 (7.1 - 8.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
>252 SpA Typhlosion Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 48-57 (26.2 - 31.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
>252 SpA Typhlosion Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 69-82 (37.7 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>252 SpA Typhlosion Bloom Doom (190 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 110-130 (60.1 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>252 SpA Typhlosion Blast Burn vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 65-77 (35.5 - 42%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
>>31694832
>0- Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Typhlosion: 156-186 (101.9 - 121.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Numbers don't lie, but people who can't provide a single replay do.

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>>31694832
Is it proud of its power?

>>31694858
Well for one, I never said it takes on garchomp, that other anon is a triggered kid trying to lie to make himself look better. Do the calcs on continental crush for zard-y, Volcarona, and talon flame. The thread was about z-moves. Vp is really a brain-dead shit fest riddled with underage.

>>31694863
Sadly no.

>>31694874
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/31592391/#q31598303
Uh-huh, sure

And don't be fucking proud that your shitty starter can OHKO with a 4x SE move, a shitty uninvested Geodude can do the same fucking thing
>0- Atk Geodude-Alola Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 552-652 (185.8 - 219.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31694874
I fucked up the link, here
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/31592391/#31598303

>>31694582
Good idea: Designing a floating Pokemon
Bad idea: Allowing the Pokemon be hit by ground attacks

>>31694874
>>31598303
Sure, this was posted by someone else.
>using a Z-Move on something already 4x weak to that type is a KO
Congrats. You couldn't even get a KO on Mega Charizard Y with just Rock Slide.

>>31694925
You took the time to save this thread? Just to argue about it later kek, and yes Z-solar beam does a good 60-70 percent to chomp anyways as you pointed out.

>geodude can do the same thing!
Uh huh.. and continental crush gets OHKO's on mons that otherwise beat it 1v1.

>>31694969
Check out the link to the original thread the other sperg posted. It was about z-moves not "hey look guys I'm using rock slide just to use it" it's there for continental crush.

>>31694970
>Not knowing what nyafuu is
So not only are you a massive faggot, you're also new

>4 Atk Typhlosion Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 428-508 (144.1 - 171%) -- guaranteed OHKO
The Geodude actually did more damage with Continental Crush than your Typhlosion did
So anything your Typhlosion can OHKO with Continental Crush, Geodude can do better

>>31694970
GOOD IDEA: Searching the archive for an image file in just one click to find the thread
BAD IDEA: Saving the webpage of a thread made by Verlis

>>31694970
>yes Z-solar beam does a good 60-70 percent to chomp anyways as you pointed out
You'd have to go first and not immediately die to even an uninvested Modest Earthquake.

>>31694997
Wow a rock type gets more damage form using a rock move. Who would have though? You guys are too easy to trigger.

>>31694986
Are you trying to be the new "proud of its power"

>>31695015
It's a sad day when you're trying to argue against the fact that a first stage uninvested Timid Geodude uses a move better than your Typhlosion

This is fun

>>31695015
>96 Atk Smeargle Continental Crush (200 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 300-356 (101 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31695027
>Bringing up a thread from weeks ago just to argue about it

You must have a cool life huh anon? Look at how much you losers are STILL upset about a pokemon set, top kek.

>>31695040
Is this a new meme?

>>31695041
>0- Atk Onix Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 360-424 (121.2 - 142.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31695041
>0- Atk Bonsly Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 552-652 (185.8 - 219.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31695041
You know you could just drop it and walk away, but you had to get angry and derail the thread. Also
>24+ Atk Trapinch Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 300-356 (101 - 119.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31695052
>>31695059
Huh. Today I learned Bonsly has more attack the Onix. Why though?

Good Idea: Riding the gen1 hype and making S&M the highest selling pokemon game yet

Bad Idea: Nuking the ability to easily interact through the PSS and replacing it with a broken minigame

>>31695066
Lots of things do.
>0- Atk Carbink Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 384-456 (129.2 - 153.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31695060
I think what has happened with the thread is better. Enjoy the new meme.

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>>31694832
>having to try and prove a point by using the word "kid" to appear above someone

>>31695041
>120+ Atk Shuckle Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 300-352 (101 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31695083
0- Atk Charizard Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 384-456 (129.2 - 153.5%) -

>>31695088
Who knew that Charizard's best counter was itself?

>>31695088
Besides the point, If shuckle can OHKO anything It's amazing

>252 Atk Cyndaquil Continental Crush (100 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 304-360 (102.3 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Best it can do is Rollout.

>>31695099
Kek.

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>>31695520

GOOD IDEA: Make a pseudo-legend with a unique type combination.
BAD IDEA: Give it no moves to take advantage of its STAB

Good idea: Physical Sceptile
Bad idea: Physical Sceptile

Good idea: Drizzle Ability.
Bad idea: Manaphy, the prince of the sea doesn't get it.

>>31694299
Good idea: Give mega form to underpowered mons
Bad idea: Give mega form to overpowered mons

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ITT: everyone is underaged
Not a single one of you is doing good idea bad idea right. Not even OP

>>31694642
>going mixed just to run fucking rock slide
>running Blast Burn ever
>doesn't have Flash Fire
>not even 31 atk IVs
I've never seen such scrubbery before

>>31694783

Better than not having a way to alter IV's

>>31695066
Because even though Onix is a big scary rock worm he was given the stats of a route 1 shitmon so that he'd be balanced for Brock's team.

>>31695041
>150+ Atk Sunkern Continental Crush (140 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Charizard-Mega-Y: 308-364 (103.7 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>>31697606
>what is injecting

I was expecting more jokes.
I got none.

>>31694507
>>31694642
where did this meme come from

>>31696557
Though seriously, mega has 110 base Attack and access to STABbed Outrage. Why is it a bad idea to run physical? Aside ability being useless for that purpose.