ITT middle stage Pokemon that are undeniably better than their

>>31651734
You start, OP.

Just as bad as waifu threads

>>31651734
anyone have a good set for a marvelscale set of this thing? have a careful one and thinking of maxing out both defenses and going for a second attack instead of sleep talk

Floette/Krilla(G3)/Gohtorita/Stenee

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>>31651788
I actually use shed skin rest with ddance, outrage, Espeed, and rest. Eviolite of course

>>31651823
I'd rather use Zygarde

>>31651748
Op already did, silly

>>31651769
Agreed. Meganium was a mistake

>>31651823
Think I'll stick with this marvel scale one so she doesn't get hammered by physical attacks while sleeping

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there you go, we all know im right

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Ivysaur is best.

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My nigga before he turned into a fat blob

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>beatiful blue sneks
>turn into fat orange mess

you can't defend this

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>>31652508
>Quad Samurai
Then how do you explain this?

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>>31652584
>My nigga before he turned into a fat blob

>tfw you like both dragonair and dragonite but you can't use them on the same team because dem NFE stats
Should've been separate lines

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>>31652734
It's almost as if they're based on salamanders

>>31652813
>meanwhile the Salamander starter doesn't follow this trend and nothing in the dragonite line's naming would imply a salamander theme

>>31652776
Doesn't this go for all 3 Kanto starters?

>>31652838
Not every frog line has a tadpole stage either, but it's still just as apparent that they're frogs.

>>31651734
Just get a Milotic, dummy

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I don't even hate Gengar or anything, Haunter's just awesome

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>>31651734
>>31651761
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>>31652776
Definitely all true. Goodra stings the most honestly.

Fun fact: dragonite was designed by a different artist then dratini and dragonair, fence the huge difference.

My answer is poliwhirl. I like the entire poli line but poliwhirl is just the most perfect design in my opinion.

>>31652775
>using artwork to prove a point

yea sure, please continue

>>31653096
>Fun fact: dragonite was designed by a different artist then dratini and dragonair, fence the huge difference.
Source me

>>31653289
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Altruis/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_their_designers

Yeah I know.
>bulbagarden
But it's the best known list.

>>31653367
>Green means that all Pokemon are known that he/she designed in this generation.
>Atsuko Nishida not green
>Dragonite not claimed by another designer
Where's the part that backs your claim?

>>31653398
Guess I was wrong, sorry.

>>31653102

That's official art, dummy.

Frogadier (design wise) andHakamo-o.

Though I still like their evos

>>31653096
>faster than polishit and polipoo
>can use eviolite
>bad hp and defenses
>no drain punch
:((((((((

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I've always liked pulitar and can't explain why.

>>31653572
I remember evolving my Overleveled-Crystal-Celadon-Game-Corner-Larvitar and being impressed by its appearance.

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How come no one posted this yet

>>31652891
>>31653452
These and Shelgon

>>31653642
Because it's wrong

>>31653642
Because people have bad taste, that's why.
Charmeleon is a fire lizard. It knows what it wants to be, and sticks to it.
Charizard is just a fake dragon.

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>>31651734
here, complete list of pokemons who have better pre-evo form
remember that pokemons which are shit through whole line aren't marked

>>31654137
Wow.

Really good tastes man.

10/10

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>>31654137
>Electrode
>Mienshao
>Alakazam
>Ampharos
>bad

And that's only scratching the surface. I hope this is b8.

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>>31654177
Shit taste detected.

>>31654177
Though I don't personally think any of those are bad, I would have to agree that the pre evos are better.

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>>31654137
Circle cyndaquil, cyndaquil is perfect but quilava and typholsion are abominations

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>>31651734
Design or balance wise?

>>31654238
I was thinking about doing this with cyndaquil, poliwhirl, torchic, oshawott and gen5 toad lines but wasn't sure.

But yeah, there should be more items like eviolite.

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>>31653056
Haunter was my MVP in my first Red playthrough (because I didn't know how OP the Abra line was and just loved spooky ghostmons).

>>31654226
>angry Fighting-type #457
>literal Pokeball with angry eyes
>better

No.

ITT: underage

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>>31653056
Truth

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>>31654287
>oshawott
Eh, I strongly disagree. I'll never understand how Samurott is considered an abomination when Oshawott is literally an animated attempt of a child's play dough project.

>>31656416
It all comes down to tastes after all. But I still like declaring my subjective opinion objective and telling people they have inferior tastes just for the sake of butthurt and reason to argue about something.

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Love Shellgon's design, Salamance has always been ugly to me, wish it hadn't changed so much

>>31653642
What if Charmeleon evolved into a giant fucking T-Rex instead of a fake dragon?

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>>31654137
>Toxicroak
>Lickilicky
>Tangrowth
>Togekiss

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>>31654137
>chinchou
completely agree. lanturn was a mistake. i caught one in crystal and was so disappointed when it evolved

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I always post this guy on these threads, provided no-one else had already

>>31659837
Where does his tail go /vp/?

>>31657829
Eh, to me its kind of like a Caterpillar like line, but as dragons.

>>31653642
I dunno, man, for my money I'd have to say Charizard is the best because of the fire blast, plus he can fly.

>>31660040
I dunno I like... Chimchar.

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>>31653572
same

>>31659864
into his brain

>>31651734
>how to spot a rank fool
Anyway, all the cute stuffed animal looking ones.

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I still really like Aggron's design but Lairon is my favourite part of the line