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ITT: _____ how would the meta change? Ash-greninja is activated

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ITT: _____ how would the meta change?

Ash-greninja is activated whenever you want it to like you're Ash. How does the meta change?
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>>31626604
It would just be another mega-esque thing.
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>>31626604
It would be Ubers
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>>31626604
Another OU cancer would be banned.

Zygarde complete gets Aura Break and is a permanent form. How does the uber meta change?
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>>31626652
Xerneas would be less of a threat. Give it Recover and it would be the bulkiest shit in the game.
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Celesteela gets moonlight/synthesis, moonblast, calm mind and cosmic power.

What level of cancer are we at now?
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>>31626729
Would Magnet Pull Magnezone be the only thing able to stop it?
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>>31626744
Depending on how many calm minds it got before the magnet comes in, and if it runs EQ/fire blast, so maybe.

Also forgot to mention since I thought space bamboo already had them, but it also gets thunder wave, thunderbolt, thunder and charge beam now.
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noguard machamp gets fissure
:(
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>>31626604
Unown gets access to sketch.
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>>31626833
It would still be a PU shitmon
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>Gen 8 introduces a Pokeboost mechanic
>You pull a Lusalego and have one of your Pokemon sit the battle out while the rest of your team gets automatic buffs when sent in
>Strength and distribution depend on base stats and nature of the pokemon sitting out.
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> x4 and 1/4 are removed

Enjoy the new meta.
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Greninja gets access to sketch
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New move: Bond break
Dark/Special
BP 60/ACC 100
Does double damage to 'mons with Activated Mega Stones, battle bond, full happiness, or full affection. Also cuts happiness and affection in half.
This gets learned by most Dark, Psychic, Ghost, and Fairy types, among a few others.
Who becomes insta-shit
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>>31626652
a lot more usage of Waterceus, maybe the Pdon defensive set would start investing def instead of spdef, less fairyceus usage, more Pogre usage.

>>31626666
xern is a late-game sweeper desu
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Silvally's RKS system not only works with Z-Crystals, but also gives Silvally an effect similar to Refrigerate/Pixilate/etc of the corresponding type. If Silvally is normal type, RKS system doubles as Normalize.
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>>31627072
Banned forever, from everything. Minor adjustments to the remaining meta to account for the loss of smogonfrog.
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>>31627215
Mostly just forces everyone to run Frustration instead of Return. Slapping it on Ash-Greninja, the highest SpA Dark-type that isn't Hoopa-Unbound gives these results, assuming it's 252 SpA/Spe @Choice Specs
>Modest 12.5% OHKO on Venusaur-Mega and outspeeds but Giga Drain kills it
>Modest 100% OHKO on Charizard-Mega-X and outspeeds
>Modest 100% OHKO on Charizard-Mega-Y and outspeeds
>Modest 100% OHKO on Blastoise-Mega and outspeeds with Grass Knot
>Timid 100% OHKO on Alakazam-Mega but outsped and Focus Blast kills it
>Timid 100% OHKO on Gengar-Mega and outspeeds
>Modest 100% OHKO on Kangaskhan-Mega and outspeeds
>Modest 100% OHKO on Pinsir-Mega and outspeeds
>Timid 100% OHKO on Mewtwo-Mega-Y but outsped
>Modest 18.8% OHKO on Scizor-Mega and outspeeds
>Modest 6.3% OHKO on Aggron-Mega and outspeeds but Aggron would have to only invest into Defense and HP, otherwise 2HKO
>Modest 100% OHKO on Banette-Mega and outspeeds
>Timid 100% OHKO on Gyarados-Mega and outspeeds already with Grass Knot
>Timid 100% OHKO on Aerodactyl-Mega and outspeeds already with Water Shuriken
You get the idea.
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Just a mega, but OP because it can hold an item. Kind of like it is now, but having to get a knockout first kind of slows its momentum.
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>>31627016
Dragonite, Salamence and Garchomp usage skyrocket
>>31627794
>Minor adjustments
This is code for Keldeo and Starmie coming back.
>>31627666
This would patch up his shaky offenses, 20% boost from -ate abilities is comparable to a Plate boost and would push him to 125-ish STAB offenses and UU, although mainly because of Dark-Silvally with Z-Parting Shot.
It would still be underwhelming, it could really use moves like EQ, Recover and E-Speed.
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>>31626604
Kommo-O and Blastoise get Shell Smash
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What about... Having slow start drop attack and speed two stages, but increase them the second turn after gigas is out, and not stop raising it until it is at +6 on each.

Or just rock head archeops

>>31626604
We get essentially Mega-Greninja but with a free item slot, it would more than likely get banned. If not, it would terrorize OU

>>31626652
Not much, aside from it staying in Ubers and having snekgarde back on OU

>>31626729
Stall becomes a nightmare, it would probably get suspect tested like sableye was and bannedto Ubers.

>>31626823
scarft machamp is a niche battle spot/doubles, easily dealt with flying types, hard hitters, sturdy users and levitate mons. Obviously nothing changes for smogon

>>31626833
depends on how many sketches it gets
1=shitmon with nothing good for it
more than 1=shitty smeargle

>>31626991
Things like rampardos and ledian will finally see usage, even if it artificial to help stall and hyper-offensive teams. Only a handfull of mons would warrant the sacrifice though.

>>31627016
ferrothorn goes to Ubers, and a bunch other mons like weavvile and the dncing dragons become more popular than ever

>>31627072
banned to AG

>>31627215
Most megas are now in a heavy disadvantage, and some users of return might run frustration now (you monster).

>>31627666
silvally get a huge offensive prescence, being able to drop bombs on enemy pokemon, but its shitty defenses guarantee it wont go past UU.

>>31628176
Kommo-O ascends to OU, being able to deal things like focus blast or sky uppercut from those boosted offenses would be devastating

Blastoise might go to ubers, that fucking special attack could one shot most things with its pseudo-STAB.
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There's an eviolite like item but boosts both attacks instead.
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>>31628495
Wouldn't Sketch be tutor-compatible after it gets used?
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>>31628512
None of them would be fantastic due to Knock Off and their likely high frailty/middling speed

Aside from Type: Null, the bulk of the buffs would happen to anything receiving a gen 4 crossgen evo or a trade evo from gen 1/2, with the occasional oddball like Meditite
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Freeze Shock requires no charge turn
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>>31628721
I think fully specially defensive Aegislash is the only thing that could counter that, and even then it loses sometimes due to paralysis.
The bulkiest Electric-type in the tier, Arceus-Electric, gets 2HKO'd by Life Orb Freeze Shock.
4 Atk Life Orb Teravolt Kyurem-Black Freeze Shock vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Arceus-Electric: 199-235 (44.8 - 52.9%) -- 27.3% chance to 2HKO
Everything else in Ubers has to risk Paralysis and so is not a true counter.
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>>31628823
It would struggle against Solgaleo and Steel Arceus too, though I can't name too much else that can be built to handle extreme physical Ice attacks
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4x weaknesses no longer exist, and are replaced with 3x weaknesses instead.

How does this change the meta?
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>>31628991
Stall takes over big time
Some stall sets might get banned
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>>31626604
Get the fuck out of this board you weaboo faggot piece of shit and take your narutoad with you.
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Battle Bond doubles as Skill Link for Water Shuriken.
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Flying now resists Ground instead of being immune. Levitate no longer exists. Instead, Pokemon that are clearly and consistently shown to use flight as their primary means of locomotion gain a "trait" that makes them immune to Ground-type moves.
What changes?
>>31628495
>depends on how many sketches it gets
It would have infinite because that's how the move relearner works. As of Gen VI, once you've gotten a move via level-up, breeding, or event, the move relearner can reteach it if you've forgotten it. Knowing this, I still want a Sketch Mew event.
Also for Silvally, 95/95/95 base defenses are solid as fuck, what are you on about? Not having recovery is what kills it, add Roost TM access and it's fine.
>>31628512
Off the top of my head, Scyther, Sneasel, and Kadabra become viable. Someone else came up with an offensive Eviolite version that also boosted Speed, in which case Haunter joins the club as well (and Kadabra directly outclasses its evolution AND its evolution's Mega)
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What would it be like if only bugs could learn U-turn? Like all those random flying types and shit didn't get it anymore?
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>>31626729
I'll take anything to ban this mon

I've never believed anything else in OU was ever so dumb. and I bought the game specifically for this mon. it's just too braindead
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Staraptor gets +5 to Attack and Speed. Can it finally rise out BL?
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