>brooklet hill got me so hyped pre-release because of how

>>31625645
That would be fun Anon, GameFreak can't allow that to happen.

>>31625645
Meh... I like brooklet hill anyway

>>31625653
What happened, man? Alola could've had so many landmarks that were almost as explorable as Vast Poni Canyon.

>>31625684
Haha, I don't really know.

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>>31625645
It was probably cut from the game due to time. You can see a cave entrance to that area from here too

>>31625891
REALLY want to neck myself right now.

>>31625645
something something extra content for Stars

:^)

>>31625891
REMINDER THE GOLF COURSE IS FULLY TEXTURED AND HAS UNUSED GOLFER TRAINERS

>>31625891
Christ you can even see the ramp leading up to it that became an inaccessible ledge

>>31625920
>>31626150
REMINDER WE DONT GET TO EXPLORE THE VOLCANO AND JUST USE WARP TUNNELS LOL

The games weren't bad. But FUCK YOU GF THEY WERE CUT OFF A LOT OF CONTENT because you needed to make some mad dosh thanks to GO. Fuck off.

>>31626150
did anyone ever make a video of this?

>>31626150
Is there any footage of people using walk-through-walls or other cheats to reveal the golf course's hidden secrets?

>>31626172
I'm curious too

>>31626172
>>31626193

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>>31625891
The fact that there's an obvious path leading to the entrance makes this one absolutely vile.

These games definitely needed more time in the oven. But no, muh 20th anniversary.

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>>31625891
>>31626150
>>31626165

I didn't know S/M had that many cut corners, are there other obviously missing things?

Fuck Game Freak, you could've made the best region in the series if you weren't so lazy and knew that you'll always make money no matter how shit the game is .

The games were rushed and it's not a meme

>>31626477
That fifth island on the edge of promotional maps, looked like a pokeball.

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>>31625922
What if GF pulled a Bethesda and released a free Special edition?

>>31626477
The Power station... Again

>>31626165
Don't forget there's an NPC who comments on how you managed to get through the volcano, which would be similar to the NPC at the end of Ice Path in Johto.

>>31625891
>>31626150
I don't wanna live in a world of lazy Game Freak.

>>31627057
epic black surprise text xD

>>31627095
>>>/r/eddit

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>>31627083

>>31625645
I dont buy the "rushed games" shit anymore, not for three games in a row

They simply dont care and they know it will sell anyway

NIGGAS, STOP CALLING GAME FREAK LAZY, STOP CALLING ANY GAME DEVELOPER LAZY!!
They probably jist didn't want the content in THEIR game which is why it was cut. If it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. Game developers are not your slaves, they can do what they want in THEIR games.

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>>31627057
Good joke

>>31627083
1+1

>Still no proof about golf course remnants
>Power Plant would've been interesting anyway
But I was always bothered about le volcano cave warp faec and I'm really damn mad now that I know about >>31625891

Is that where all of Alola's caves went?

We better be able to explore at least some of this in a Sun/Moon 2 or something

>>31627125
XY wasnt rushed, and I dont think SM were either but ORAS definitely was. As were B2W2.

And yet B2w2 had no problem being amazing in all respects and having plenty to do

>>31627083
Fift
EEN

>>31627172
>Power Plant would've been interesting anyway
Presume you mean not interesting, but I disagree. It would have been a geothermal plant which could have had some interesting build-up and make more sense for the the different Pokémon available there in Sun.

>>31627143
What's so unbelievable about 3 games in a row being rushed? Is there a limit to how much your employer can rush you?

>veo lu sluice

>>31627200
There was an extremely long time after ORAS with no Pokemon news whatsoever. an entire fucking year + worth of waiting.
And then we didnt even get SM until november. Not only that but they wouldve been developed by A team, which wouldve started around the time XY development wrapped up.

There's no way they didnt have enough time to get everything, they didnt even have to make a billion models. There's what, 80 new Pokemon and 2-4 animations each? And they reused a lot of ORAS textures on buildings, too.

lugia should live in the caves under the pools

>>31627249
The Alola design concept started shortly after the BW launch. GF plan their games well in advance, even if it only the region and a basic outline of the story.

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>Entering the ''''''''cave''''''' at Wela Volcano Park

>>31625891
>>31626150
I hate Game Freak so fucking much

>>31627143
Shut up and get back to work, code monkey.

>>31627143
code monkeys are little more than cooks, if they don't get their shit together people will find another place to eat.

>>31627199
I just imagine it being like Gen 2's Power Plant

A room of NPCs and maybe a TM. Could've been a nice place for the Solar Beam TM I guess

Guess you'll just have to wait for Pokemon Stars on the Nintendo Switch!

>>31627200
SM had more time in the oven, that is their vision for the game like it or not. They are not rushed or being lazy. That's just the way it is.

>>31625645
>There's a cave in the water in Poni Meadow (where the fishing spot is)
>No way of getting there
Why though

>>31627396
>SM had more time in the oven, that is their vision for the game like it or not. They are not rushed or being lazy
That's actually worse

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>>31627083
I fucking miss the old days when Game Freak were just shit at making games (Gens 1 through 3, maybe 4) rather than lazy at making them. Now they've got so many more programmers, artists, musicians etc. and somehow it's only gotten worse. Funny how that works.

>>31627406
Can you post a pic of this, anon?

>>31627424
Well then, stop playing Pokemon, hell, stop playing video games. I'm in school for game design and I certainly don't wanna do a game for ungrateful pieces if shit like you.

>>31627461
>school
>game design
LOL have fun working at walmart

>>31627035
isn't that the poke pelago?

>>31627475
>le walmart meme
>implying walmart even exists in his country
i've never seen a walmart in my entire life, other than in pictures

>>31627490
I live in America jackass.
>>31627475
Dumb shitposter

>>31625645
there are a shit on of areas that were cut off in the game

>the power plant
>the 2 areas in the hotel
>the area at the resort
>the area at the lake of sunn/moonne that is "blocked" off by boulders
I'm mad

What does "it all comes together" mean, anyway?

>>31627534
Marketing Flavor Text that was used by TPCi to generate hype.
It never meant anything, ever.

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>>31627508
>Dumb shitposter
>Implying I'm shitposting
I went to university for computer science and got a job at a pretty small-time games studio making bullshit for mobile. I had a whole lot of friends who did "game design" and they all ended up in dead-end jobs completely unrelated to their subject. The company I work for has never hired someone with a game design degree despite being a company that makes games.

I'm not trying to shitpost, I'm just putting 2 and 2 together. A lot of professionals in the industry have described the same experiences I've just described. Game design degrees are, by and large, considered a waste of time.

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>>31627450
Can you see it? On the left

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>>31627552
False advertising is a crime, I thought GameFreak would merge away from the lazy cut-corners and gimmicks in generation 7. They've began to alternate into the "quantity over quality" phase, what makes them money is all that matters.

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>XY was rushed but people let it pass because of all the graphical changes
>ORAS was rushed and disappointed a lot, but people hoped for more time development and a better game
>we got this shit on SM along with no postgame, worse framerate, online and unbelievable bugs

What are the excuses now?

>>31627589
Rushed because Nintendo wants GameFreak to develop for Switch and have generation 8 be ready for it in order to print more money.

>>31627566
Oh, i never noticed that. I feel stupid now.

>>31627589
The 3DS was a mistake and that gen IV wad the high point of the series. The pinnacle of the franchise.

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>>31627601

>>31627511
>the area at the resort

With a little more effort, they could've done a Battle Resort/Hotel and made all the Battle Frontier whiners shut up. It doesn't even need that much work, just different booths in the resort.


>the area at the lake of sunn/moonne that is "blocked" off by boulders

That place looked so interesting, even more so than the Altar of the main story. It's a shame that it's really just a corridor used to find cosmog and move the clock.

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>>31627601

Yet another proof that jimbo is retarded.

>>31627566
You can't pokeride there?
What the fuck?
>Yfw entire pokemon franchise (games, anime, manga, spinoffs, anything) is fucking rushed

>it could be an event area
that's what my friends say but
damn
it better be a lot of event areas!

>>31627601
TWO GENDERS
TWO GENDERS
TWO GENDERS
TWO GENDERS
TWO GENDERS

>>31627589
>What are the excuses now?
Hahaha, I don't know.

*pre-orders next game*

>>31627646
Yep, you can't, I tried to search for some way of getting there from Resolution Cave but no, it's literally nothing

>>31627682
Yeah I remember thinking it was an exit from Resolution Cave too

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>>31627623
>the area at the lake of sunn/moonne that is "blocked" off by boulders
You guys are right, I didn't even notice it on my playthrough. This makes me so sad.

someone should do a compilation of all areas like this

Could it be possible for those cut locations to be in the follow-up games? GameFreak have added plenty of additional locations in 3rd games and BW2, they can easily include dungeons and areas scrapped during SM's development. Assuming there will be a follow-up game, of course.

>brooklet hill
>wela volcano park
>hano grand resort
>geothermal power plant
>the cave in the poni meadow pond

God DAMN, Game Freak. What happened to you guys? Unova was underwhelming at first, but B2W2 fixed the fuck out of that. Kalos was underwhelming and had so many unanswered questions that we thought would be answered by a third version that expanded on things like the previous gens, but nope, straight to Alola, which they STILL managed to make abysmal despite hinting at it since X and Y came out with that tourist in the hotels.

I almost want to make my own Pokemon game now. Learn how to program, how to model... Too bad it'll never fucking go anywhere though.

>>31627646
>Yfw entire pokemon franchise (games, anime, manga, spinoffs, anything) is fucking rushed
Every first of a gen except GS and maybe BW feel this way
>Gen 1 speaks for itself
>All the features from GSC cut in RS
>DP being slow despite being delayed an entire year
>XY and SM having lack of locations that clearly were going to be explorable
>DP and SM facility movesets (Outrage Salamence pre-Platinum, SS Kommo-o)

They can't hide it in 3D as much. The reason it's a bigger deal now is that we can't be certain they'll go back and make a proper director's cut for these games anymore.

>>31627846
Rushed. Gone are the days where GameFreak weren't lazy and you could actually explore shit. Hope you enjoyed the first 4 gens boys, because that level of exploration won't be in future games.

>>31627083
Why are you stealing my schtick
Fuck off impersonator

>>31627846
>>31627846
>I almost want to make my own Pokemon game now. Learn how to program, how to model... Too bad it'll never fucking go anywhere though.

I'm busy doing this right now, it might not get anywhere or even get a public release but i'll at least try and do better than GF.
I've got the world map mostly finished and am working on the pokedex at the moment. Also playing through as many games as possible and noting little annoyances that could be easily fixed, but weren't.

>how to model
All the tools are for GBA games, so no need to model anything.

If you want to make a fangame you can check out the hacking general (/heg/), there hasn't been a new thread put up yet though.

>>31627846
yo missed>>31627767
>>31627623
>>31627511

ITT: People act like games having cut content is a Gamefreak exclusive.

>>31627846
>I almost want to make my own Pokemon game now. Learn how to program, how to model... Too bad it'll never fucking go anywhere though.


And don't forget they'll get DMCA'd for daring to make a tribute game where you fix things yourself :^)

Gotta protect that brand from some internet rando!

>>31627921

This is /vp/, of course we'll complain more about GF than any other studio. The other real "major" developer is Chunsoft, which as far as I know has a better track record with cut content than the mainline games.

>>31627921
>People act like games having cut content is a Gamefreak exclusive.
nigga you act like we aren't always mad about cut content
pro tip: we always are

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>>31627922
>mfw the only reason Nintendo DMCA's is so that they don't have to actually make better games than their fans
Pretty pathetic tbqh

Reminds me of the forest naval from pikmin

>>31626150
WHAT. Moar info?

>all these Kalos areas and hints to be expanded in Z
>Anime arc with shit advertising Z
>literally called XY&Z
>SM with so much cut content
>Zygarde and Ash-Grenigga shoehorned into Alola where they otherwise have no place

SM was shipped out early to make the 20th anniversary, Z was supposed to be made to fill the gap before SM, which would have come out this year.

>>31627914
Jeez, they fucked up the lake as well?

>>31627964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k3uHxJ7mrQ

>>31625645
thats what everyone thought alolan arcanine would be able to run on top of those. but nope.

>>31627998
yeah you can on the map the 6 DIFFERENT PATHS IT LEADS TO
also if you go to the top of the altar there you can see more and there is a block that needs to be interacted with or something...

These days I'm playing the DQVIII remake on 3ds and I can't help to notice small things that are in this game that could make pokemon much more enjoyable. For example, almost everything you see in the overworld can(sooner or later) be reached and explored or all the buidings in all the towns are open.
Also the game run really well on the 3ds

>tfw you expect poni island to have a bunch of cool locations after you beat the elite 4
>tfw you actually explored the second half of the island

>>31628080
>tfw it's literally all trainers and Pelippers

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>>31627589
Is gen 7 the Sonic 06 of Pokemon?

>>31628127
>fields are all pelippers, gumshoos and raticate
>meadow is oricori and cottonee/petilil
>cave is golbat

>>31628137
yes

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What about the lighthouse and the pier with the ship
in Konikoni?
Or half of the buildings and in Malie and the not Bell Tower?

>>31628264
if this were any game pre-gen 6 that tower would have been a small dungeon

>>31628297
Honestly I was disappointed it wasn't.

This is starting to give me heavy Mario Sunshine vibes.

Mario Sunshine had like half a dozen levels planned for the game that got scrapped and replaced with some Blue Coin collectathon to pad the game out.

My problem is why the fuck can't they hire more people? It's clear they don't like doing full 3D but why don't they just hire more people. Don't they have ties with other devs like Genius Sonority?

They need to start fucking outsourcing this shit to HAL or something so they can get more work done. They can't go back to 2D or the normies will leave in an instant.

>>31628297

If this was any game pre-Gen 6, somebody that you need to fight would be hiding in that tower instead of their usual location.

See: The ghost tower in gen 4 (forgot its name), the bell tower in gen 5 think?

>game freak still haven't fixed jynx's model
someone explain this

>>31627249
>implying they weren't working on Xz/Yz the whole time but Nintendo made them scrap it to finish SM

>>31628398
>Both are set in tropical setting
Can Nintendo in general not make a good tropical themed game.
I mean I like sunshine but I admit it's more of a guilty pleasure, won't defend it.

>>31628398
I feel like GF would be put to shame if an aspiring Western developer got a change to make a mainline game.

>>31628563
Not him, but you can't push it on Nintendo.

They need to shape up and get some more help for 3D. They clearly can't handle having to model anything beyond a couple polygons en masse. I think it's a miracle XY weren't only 5 gyms or something.

Gen 4/5 maps were amateur tier models so it was no big deal back then, but now their incompetence with 3D has made them struggle and will continue to make them struggle until they find some way to outsource the 3D or hire a lot more people.

They've got lots of money, especially now that they've got whatever royalties they'd get from GO, they're just too dumb to use it.

>>31628484
>Deleting your post
So you realised he meant the lighthouse on the second island?

>>31628589
>>31628398
same with wind waker

>>31627996
Why are people ignoring this obviously right post?

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>>31625891

>>31627996
>AZ Floette growing in Sotoopolis
>AZ Floette existing to begin with
>Volcanion and Souther Kalos
>Magearna and AZOTH project
>Archie's wish to Jiraichi
Shit's so undone

>>31625645
>>31625684
>>31625891
>>31626150
>>31626390
I'm so fucking tired. Third game in a row that felt rushed.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK GF

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>>31627077

>>31628628
You know what https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGyzE9A-PPM is literally Kalos, so I'll be buying it for once.

>>31627566
First thing I thought when I saw this months back was, "oh shit, maybe gamefreak aren't a bunch of faggots" Then I tired to PokeRide and realized GF are still faggots.

>Brooklet Hill is shit
>Wela Volcano is just a park, no lava or sense of adventure like in gens 4 and 5
>golf course was cut out entirely, even though it's still visible on the in-game map
>barely anything to explore on the western half of Poni Island
SM looked way more fun on the maps before the games actually came out.

>>31628398
You'd think by now they would have more than enough money to hire more people. What really is bizarre is that there are these locations which are clearly either 90% finished or at least were planned. Why scrap them? Surely it wouldn't have been hard to complete them.

How would this game have been if it were in the style of a Gen 4/5 game?

>>31628723
They have lots of people, but they dedicate their teams to working on multiple games in tandem.

>NPC congratulates me on making it through Wela Volcano
Fucking...GameFreak...

>>31628733
>No awful lag for Totem battles
>Maybe trainers would have had more than one Pokémon
At the very least, an improvement.

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>>31627589
>XY was rushed but people let it pass because of all the graphical changes
I've never seen anybody defend XY's mediocrity just because of the 3D "upgrade".

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>>31628589
At this point both are guilty pleasures to me. I don't want to trash SM cause I appreciate points of it that I liked but there are what feels like dozens of faucets where they come just that close to being great only to fuck it up for inexcusable reasons.

>>31628612
I hate to say it, but most developers I feel would dig this board's perceived grave of the series further.

>AAA
Open world genwun only
>Indies
You get like half the maingame turned into cut content. You thought a few dungeons was bad? Try this.

I might be forgetting a dev or two that are western that would handle the IP well, but I still think the best candidates are GS and HAL.

The Orre games already showed up GF over 10 years ago if you ask me. Both of them. The best part is that those two games could make up for their shortcomings with appeal in another way easily. As far as I'm concerned GF has had 10 years to top Genius Sonority and hasn't been able to do it yet, and if they ditch 3rd versions/sequels/anything that isn't a remake, they never will.

As for HAL, if you ask me the Kirby series has been doing what GF is trying to do for years. Have a fun game that can attract casuals while having appeal to a core audience. Imagine if every Pokemon game had something like the True Arena? How about minigames or extra modes like Super Star?

>>31628723
They do have more than enough money, they just don't actually do it.
>What really is bizarre is that there are these locations which are clearly either 90% finished or at least were planned. Why scrap them? Surely it wouldn't have been hard to complete them.
You have to remember the interior. Chances are if they forced themselves to keep them they'd be small rooms like ORAS New Mauville or something.

Also as an extra thing. I have a friend who can read Japanese and I asked her to translate negative Amazon JP reviews for me. The most common complaint is actually lack of exploration so perhaps shit will hit the fan one day.

If I had the time and ability, I would personally de-modernize SM using the gen 4 or 5 engine, and try to include any skipped content. Though it'd be hard to imagine just what they wanted to put in those blocked off areas.

>>31628797
>hard to imagine just what they wanted to put in those blocked off areas
fuck what they wanted to put in imo, just put in what would be fun to explore/makes sense for a good pokemon game

>that place with the lab on the second island
>that one girl there
>oh you're going to the lab?
>of course you are it's the only thing here on the third floror
>there's nothing on the second floor
>there wasn't anything there and is supposed to be that way
>clearly it's the only right to have an completely empty floor
also that aether house about the game freak office is completely useless and adds nothing

>>31628887
>completely useless and adds nothing
Much like the dozens of unused building throughout the region.

Friendly reminder that Paniola Town is basically just Kiawe's house

>>31628872
This. This is the problem with GF making these games, they've gone on record as saying they only put in what they want.

Which is what fucks up every game and concept like Megas, Cross-gen evo's and even baby evos. Because what happens is instead of thinking logically what to keep in and take out like keep in rematches for trainers and elite four and take out any problems they notice that harm the game or story like a huge story that harms gameplay.

But no, instead they say we'll do as we please which leads to concepts not thought out well enough like Megas that could have been better than they are now, taking out shit like customization which should have been a thing since gen 4 considering what other games were capable of at the time, and so much more.

Someone please compile these

>>31625645
Here's a what-might-have-been, taken from another favorite vidya of mine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VinlGqL_CI

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>mfw GameFreak is so lazy they can't even make your character move back a few steps after a roadblock gets done talking, so instead they just do a fadeout teleport a few inches away from the roadblock trigger or NPC

>>31625645
game freak
clearly these are all event areas where you find marshadow and the specail pikachus and out of region pokemon
clearly
right?

>>31627639
I sincerely hope you get your teeth punched in.

Or kicked in, whatever hurts most.

>>31629002
Yeah dude like how you got Volcanion in the Power Plants in Kalos!

>>31628935
You know this reminds me an awful lot of what people talk about in regards to Smash post-Melee.

The sad thing is though that GF can't even figure out their own game. Have you seen the kind of shit that people here have been saying gets shot down by hack checks?
>Gen 3 Extreme Speed Linoone
>RBY transferred cross gen evos
>Surf Alolan Raichu, which is clearly possible

Not to mention the backwards-ass ways they go about handling the past two VGCs. Giving Solgaleo and Lunala Wide Guard won't magically make the Primals go away. Nerfing T-Wave's Accuracy and Paralysis' speed chance isn't hurting Thundurus, only other mons.

Not to mention there's at least 2 cases where SM actively mocked its own potential. Ledian's dex entry mocks how shit it is even though they go ahead and give its own counterpart a BST buff and a signature move. An NPC also comments on questioning why Sudowoodo lacks an Alola Form showing they clearly could've designed one, but it's not muh genwun so no, why bother?

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>>31628975
>too lazy to animate a gate opening so they jsut have a separate area
>teleports last several seconds and are everywhere

>>31628935
>they've gone on record as saying they only put in what they want
Fucking idiots. Sure, there are the dipshits who say things like "hurr durr all the regions in one game pls" but there are a lot more people with rather valid suggestions. Ways mechanics could be tweaked to make them more enjoyable or bringing back certain things like the VS Seeker, for example.

>>31628791
>GF has had 10 years to top Genius Sonority and hasn't been able to do it yet
One of the things that shows how GF are really incompetent is themed trainers. Both Miror B and Tierno have teams based on dancing, but Miror B one is clearly superior because he uses a "complex" strategy( Rain+Swift Swim; Mega Drain+Leech Seed), while GF couldn't even code a semidecent AI for Tierno so it just gave all his pokemon one move.
Also Pyrite Cave is better than any dungeon in the mainline 3ds games

>>31629031
>bringing back certain things like the VS Seeker

I will never understand the removal of this. Best way to rematch random trainers in the series, bar-none.

>>31629053
I'm not just talking about now anon

They were always better than GF, even in their prime.

>>31628788
Then you weren't here when it was launched and on the following months. Everyone agreed that it had almost no content and what it had was lackluster, but they gave GF a pass for the graphics update and because everything on the game was still fresh. Breeding, Wonder Trade, finishing the dex, etc.

XY also lived long enough because on the first months there was no hacking and the breeding was easier, so people pretty much started all over again. Friend Safari was also a thing. Bank didn't came until the end of january, since the Christmas launch was a shitshow.

ORAS didn't pulled that for long and SM for sure ain't doing. I'm not defending XY, mind you, but that's just what happened.

>>31629053
One thing GS has over GF, aside from blatantly better AI and strategies, is Double Battles which opens an entirely new dimension for options.
Despite having been the official VGC Format for years, GameFreak is hellbent on making sure you almost never have to engage in a Double Battle ingame unless it's the Battle Facility.

>>31627183
XY were hella rushed.

>>31629107
This. You only have to glance at the story to know this fact, especially X's story which is so broken it doesn't even make sense no matter how you look at it.

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>>31629149
>I'm going to commit genocide on Humanity so the world can be beautiful once more!
>And I'll use Xerneas, the Legendary Pokemon of Life to fuel the Ultimate Weapon of Destruction!

>>31629179
They didn't even change his goal to make beauty last forever by giving it eternal life rather than still killing everything to preserve purity.

Fucking Kalos...

>>31628617
>I think it's a miracle XY weren't only 5 gyms or something.
Well that explains the whole 7 trials thing, expect 6 pseudo gyms in Gen 8 anon

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>>31629149
>Your mother is a Rhyhorn Racer! By the way, you can ride a Rhyhorn but it's slow as fuck!
>Look at this cool desert with multiple entrances to the Power Plant! It's too bad most of the entrances are locked!
>There's Shabboneau Castle, which is huge and pretty much pointless!
>pic related

>>31629149
>you fight Lysandre 3 times in 30 minutes and his team barely changes
>Team Flare admins are all useless and waste of data
>they never explain how he found the legendary
Gen 6 story was bad even by pokemon standards and the pacing was completely fucked

>>31628617
The thing is, the Pokémon models are decent (in fact, they're too high poly for the 3DS resolution).

>>31629227
>Hey, here's a cave where you capture one of the Legendary Birds! It's called Sea Spirit's Den!
>...What the fuck is a Lugia? Only Generation 1 and Generation 6 exist right now, you jackass.

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>>31629227
>Chamber of Emptiness
>Hollow Room
>Nothing exists in it

God fucking damn it

>>31629227
Don't forget the Rhyhorn racing tracks above the route next to Santalune.

>>31629179
>>31629214
You know what's funny, when I was playing X I was wondering how they were going to change the plot from Y.

I thought, hey Lysandre is going to make himself and Team Flare immortal and take over the world through money they get from selling off the life giving power to people who want to either be young or immortal or both. Therefore, I have to stop him before he does so and becomes some immortal Emperor.

But no, that thinking too much of GF's story writing capabilities.

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>>31629227
Kek

>>31629275
Man I'm glad ORAS improved that place.

>>31629241
Actually no they did explain where they got the legendary.

On some mountain or something which is why they were digging in the cave.

>>31629227
>Your rival is the son/daughter of world famous trainers!
>By the way, his/her team is shit and you never battle their parents!

Why

>>31629275
That at least had some purpose, you got the sunny day TM there. In mythology that's where Ameterasu hid, hence the TM.

>>31628791
>Have a fun game that can attract casuals while having appeal to a core audience
Anon, Kirby games are nowhere popular to the casual audience as Pokemon. They are fun for sure but the casuals rarely gets interested in Kirby games
>>31629053
Not only that but Miror B is more likable than sugimori self insert fatso

>>31629302
Famous Trainers.

Go to her house, it's just some random adult NPC's. Not even Ace or Veteran trainers.

>>31629259
WHAT THE FUCKITY FUCK GF
PULL YO SHIT TOGETHER

I start to believe that even I could direct better game than them, if I had their resources.

>>31629326
>you don't even battle them in the first place
Though I'm sort of glad, they probably would have just both had a single Psuedo and nothing else.

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>>31627553
>tfw your only talent is something that is completely dead to the area you live in
i know that feel, bro
this shithole city and art/design do not go hand in hand

>>31629295
We don't even get to visit that cave or forest.

>>31629310
Yhere's two items in the Chamber of Emptiness as well.

>>31629352
Banettite and?

>>31629381
Spooky Plate.

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I would have been fine even with some exploration à la Distortion World

>>31626150
I have yet to see proof of this.

>>31629499
I will always be mad about how badly the UBs were used. They can't even really fix them in an eventual third version because all the "mistery" surrounding them is long gone

>>31629499
Oh, anon. But that would require a person with a brain to be designing the game.

I don't care much with brooklet hill because when you look at the bottom screen map, you see that the area of Lana trial was meant to be there and they just moved stuff in the last minute.

Now the golf course is a sad thing

>>31629574
>>31629499
>no UB in the overworld
>no portals that would open up and get you to fight the ub
>necromaza battle in general


>>31629670
but that doesn't mean it could have been there for us to explore post game!

>>31629693
>missed the opportunity to have Guzzlord's fat ass parked in the back of Resolution Cave looking like a king.

Not to mention
>most of the UBs are giant yet none of them appear in the overworld.

Walking around in tall grass looking for a Celesteela is dumb.

What are the unused trainer models?

I saw nurses during leak season but I saw none in gameplay til now. Golfers and Firefighters I've only saw in Tree

>>31629574
I was upset they're useable in battle with relatively normal but lopsided stats and attacks. I was hoping they'd be actual boss enemies with absurd stats/levels and have moves skills that wouldn't be classified as Pokemon moves

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>>31629782
>the Nihilego you fight has a Totem Boost
>but that's literally it, it's just a normal Nihilego beyond that

Does the Necrozma battle count? It feels like they had something planned for it but eventually cut it out entirely.
>hear it's in brooklet hill
>go there expecting it to be sttanding at the end of the cave
>you're actually supposed to run in tall grass until he appears

>>31629798
Necrozma is at Ten Carat Hill

>>31629302
>Oh so are they going to turn out to be Postgame Leaders like Barry, that's a bit lame but whatever
>Just 4 pallet swapped waifus with generic expressions

>>31627461
Let me know how much fun your game is when you constantly tease unreachable locations and ploop warp points everywhere.

>>31627911
SHHHH. Tell NO ONE aside from people working with you. Just... When you are done, Release it. And let Game freak send you a C&D later. Better to be unknown in the lead up than stopped before you can fly...

I'm sure I could have worded that better, but W/e.

>>31628797

1. Pokegolf driving range -a mini-game where you hit the ball, and wherever it lands you have to battle a trainer to proceed. The catch is: no items during the game, and the closer to the hole, the tougher the trainers. At the end you are gauged on both # of strokes taken and turns in battle.

2. New pokeride call: Relicanth Dive. Takes you underwater to go around certain obstacles.

>>31627461
Maybe you should quit going to school then if you don't want to do a game for "ungrateful pieces of shit". You'd probably scrap your game at the first bit of criticism you'd get.

>>31629865
>>31629798

Fucking what? I didn't bother to search for Necrozma, is he literally just a random encounter in that area's tall grass?

That's Game Freak's ultimate proof of "lol we just want money". Either give him a half assed UB mission or just scrap his presence entirely, don't do something that shows to all players you don't give a shit.

>>31626150
No, I used walk through walls, its an unused area, but it doesnt have golfer trainers.

I'm angry about all of these places being cut out, but what frustrates me even more is how Gamefreak made it so difficult to train Pokemon. First, they got rid of super training and hordes and replaced them with pelago,which takes forever, and sos battles. I don't mind the sos battles but pelago is annoying because it's the only way to easily get a specific ev spread. The grind to level 100 in this game is also atrocious. I feel like they planned for the festival plaza to be the main method of reaching level 100, but the festival plaza itself is boring and confusing for most people without a guide. Not to mention the restaurant you need to do serious leveling in is a sun exclusive and the higher level dinners can only be used three times a day. It's a joke that they introduced hyper training in the hardest generation to date to level up Pokemon in. Why couldn't they have had something like the battle restaurants or the poke miles club in gen 6 which let you buy hundreds of rare candies for practically nothing as long as you racked up miles from wonder trading. Poni island is awful for grinding because there are very few high exp yield Pokemon and once you hit around level 70, you level up at a snail's pace. Gamefreak should have added a secret post game chansey island or a Chansey omelette plant where you could battle both trainers' chansey and blissey as well as wild ones for when you run out of trainers to fight. I have a feeling that remakes are going to be an every other gen thing from now on so hopefully a third version can expand on gameplay,exploration, and functionality and streamline these overall great games, despite their flaws.

>>31626172
No, the guy is bullshitting you, I dont have a capture carr, but there are no trainers, its just an unused area they cut out in the final release

>>31630605
>pelago is annoying because it's the only way to easily get a specific ev spread
Stop, Pelago is great and GF better not take 2 steps back with the next variation.

>>31630615
Do you have a phone you can record you walking through the area on and then upload it to Youtube?

>>31630381
I thought it was meant to be a sly nod and wink to those old rumors where people would give wacky requirements to find so-called Pokégods and the like. But I guess laziness is also a reason

I would have loved to see the UBs in the overworld, Celesteela in particular.

It's a crime that Necrozma doesn't have it's own sacred place to find it, and instead becoming a roaming pokemon in that hill. It was just as bad as how Xerneas and Yveltal were treated last generation.

I also miss legendaries in general having their own sacred place. Even Sinnoh, for all the ridiculous legends it introduced, had a special location for most of them. Nowadays, they just feel like some boring overpowered mons that simply get handed to you like some item in a pokemon center instead of mythical beasts that require you to track it down and use everything you have to capture it.

>>31630624
You know they will, anon. They'll claim that Pelago is a feature unique to its region and never show it again.

>>31626477
>are there other obviously missing things?
You might already know about this but there are both low-poly models clearly meant for overworld and walking/running animations for all 802 Pokémon and all of their forms. Following Pokémon was definitely planned for the game and scrapped at the last minute.

There are a lot of weird moments in the game where an NPC says something like "wow, player, you and [first Pokémon in your party] really saved the day this time!" specifically mentioning that first Pokémon. I noticed it and felt it really awkward when I played the game but it would've made so much sense to include that specific mention if following Pokémon were in the game and that Pokémon was standing right next to you in the overworld during that cutscene.

>>31627534
It wasn't used by TPCi, some Youtuber made clickbait videos leading up to SM's release where he kept saying "it all comes together!" and spammed /vp/ with them, even admitting he was the one doing it at one point.

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>>31628935
>which should have been a thing since gen 4
People have added customization to Gen 2, it's doable in any Gen.

>>31625891

Fuck and it had the best battle area, too, with all those pools and waterfalls in it. BUT YOU NEVER HAVE TO GO THERE LIKE EVER BECAUSE ANYTHING USEFUL OR ATTRACTIVE WAS CUT.

They could have cut anything, but they cut this gorgeous, unique area.

>>31627083

I don't want you to, either; so kill yourself.

>>31627566

I always thought that was a way to get into a secret area in Poni Canyon and I just had to find the entrance. Felt like a great adventure like back in the day there were secret areas in games that were actually DIFFICULT to find. I was excited.

But then GameFreak.

>>31627601

How about you lick the wad off my pinnacle?

>>31629499

They could even have taken the lazy route and implemented the a RIFT system that all the games are instituting nowadays. A world event that you have to travel to, clear out, then get rewarded. But NOOOOOOOOO couldn't even do that.

Fuckers.

Someone screencap all this.

>still no screen cap

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>>31627846
I've been trying to do this myself too for a while but
>Trying to learn how to make music
>Trying to learn how to program
>Trying to learn how to make good area designs
>Trying to learn how to make 3D models
etc

>>31629014

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>>31629014

anyone finish that screen cap yet?

>>31628559
What's wrong with it?

>>31627566
Its horseshit because they manage to stick that nice secret cove on the first island and then nothing like that happens again.

>>31630381
>Either give him a half assed UB mission
That's what it is, retard. It's a "wtf is happening there go check it out" after you get all the UBs

>people complaining literally don't play the games

>>31632245
What the fuck are you talking about? You know that all legendaries aren't mythicals, right?

>>31633999
While I'm ok with a slow, semi-bulky electric type, why in the shit did it have to be Vikavolt? Design alone says it should be a fast glass cannon, not the other way around

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how's this?

>>31625891
>Brooklet Hill was cut
>The internal part of the volcano was likely cut as well
>Golf course cut as well
>Mt. Lanakila is tiny and pathetic
>power plant inacessible

The fucking games I swear

>>31636198
Missing the magical warp caves on Mt. Wela, power plant, and I'd argue Mt. Lanakila deserves a mention because I refuse their initial plan was to make a "Victory Road""""""""""""""" as tiny and small.

Also I'd add the UB World as well, because it's a disgrace that all we get is a straight path with weird textures

It'd be clever to patch the cut areas in as event dungeons with a legendary at the end... But LameFreaks would never put in that much effort.

>>31636275
I have the feeling the UB world is just one cave in their world. Imagine the surface

>>31626172

No, and there never will be for there isn't any content up there.

Walk up the to wall at the Hano beach towards the golf course. Walk back and forth and you'll notice a slight graphical schism in the ground making a straight line, that is the "world boundary" and none of the area beyond that point is pathable.

So whether or not the Golf Course was intended to be a Trial or whatnot, there is currently no terrain there to walk on. Who knows if there ever was.

>>31625645
This is Kalos all over again

There was also the unused rhyhorn racing track, mention of the southern Kalos, locked power plants and usnused train station in Couriway

>>31636466
>there will never be good, high budget main game of pogeymanz for decades to come

Should I send my ideas to Chunsoft? They make good pogeygamez

>>31633999
fucking perfect, thanks anon

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>this whole thread
Why did I go into this thread!? Now I'm very angry.

>>31627846
You forgot the lighthouse.

Not to mention all those unused housing plots in the game - they clearly had some sort of plan for those, but never completed them and left them idle.

Where are they?
>Hau'oli City - island one
>Hehea City - island two
>Malie City - island three
>Seafolk Village - island four

My theory? They were originally spots for Gyms.

I think that they were planning on having trials in locations around the islands (including battles with the Captains), followed by a final showdown with a Gym Leader (the Kahunas) when they were completed. Each of the four gym leaders would then give you a jewel piece to complete your challenge amulet and face the Elite Four.

I'm guessing Mina, Molayne and Kahili were also in the mix as Trial Captains or Gym Leaders too, but got scrapped.

Then they were trying to finish the game and were caught for time - "fuck it, let's cut out some stuff". So they removed the Gyms, they cut the volcano exploration, they cut the Poni Grove exploration, they cut the Power Plant and Lighthouse, and revamped the Gym Leaders to be Kahunas (and somehow, used them again as Elite Four members with the abandoned Kahili.

The game was rushed and it shows.

>>31636701
Isn't there eight of those plots?

>>31636719
No, there's less than 8

>>31636719
There might be one in Tapu Village, but that area is in ruins anyway.

There's a case to be made for one on the island west of Aether House. That whole 'broken lighthouse' thing where the ghost trial is seems to be a counterpart of that though... perhaps another abandoned project.

>>31636701
>You forgot the lighthouse.
Why was the lighthouse walled off by a fence anyways? It's not even like the place is inaccessable, someone just slapped a fence in the middle of the path

>>31628919
>Friendly reminder that Paniola Town is basically just Kiawe's house

Yeah what the fuck was that? You enter, see two hugeass houses on both sides of you, and they're just there for decoration. Shit, not even a copypaste interior with a line of text

>>31637254
To make it harder to access it and the TM near it. IIRC you need to use either Machamp or Tauros in Diglett's Tunnel to get to it.

>>31636198
The Power Plant is missing

>>31637350
What was the TM, anyways? Why even have the path and slap a fence in the middle of it to begin with? They may as well have just put a sheer cliff there, it'd make more sense

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>>31627430
They're bloated, most likely.

When you have a company like that whose sole job is basically making Pokemon games, odds are every little decision goes through all of their excess creative staff, and you can bet one or two of them have ideas or objections that the other staff decide to take seriously.

Would make getting anything done a fucking mess. Thinking of it that way, it's not surprising that ideas get tossed, development takes forever, and games end up straight up incomplete.

Gamefreak needs to downsize a bit. They're too goddamn bloated.

>>31629179
Because you can use whatever source of lifeforce you want to use to power the Weapon. He isn't using Xerneas "because it grants immortality" (that's the other part of the plot in X), he's just using it because it's a powerful legendary.
>>31629214
>>31629264
Except that's what he does: he even tries to force immortality on you. You eventually escape from the HQ and he does become immortal, but he's trapped under the ruins of the undergeound HQ.

>>31627867
What was cut from XY?

Oh my god, this entire thread...
Why are you here if you don't love SM and GF, leave this board to the REAL fans of Pokemon.
Stop hating it. Stop this "rushed game" meme, it's not.

>>31637809
Nothing, really.
Just implying a third version.
People say power plant and ghost gril from Lumiose city, but I personally disagree with the power plants and the ghost girl is just because of BW2 having sequel to the missing girl's story on the bridge.

I found that story rather weak and it's not very scary anymore.

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>>31637902
FINALLY A LIGHT IN THE DARK

>>31637902
>fans of a franchise have to automatically like anything that the franchise does
This is a fantastic way to convince companies to never improve.

>>31637902
Of all the people on this board who have either acted like shills/apologists or be called one, you've got to be most fitting of the honour.

>>31637935
I highly doubt Gamefreak is on /vp/. I can just imagine Japanese businessmen lurking a board that isn't in their primary language, discussing the autism.

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>>31637902

>>31637902
kek

>>31637902
You're a blind fanboy, not a real fan.

If you were really a fan and passionate about Pokémon you would see its flaws for what they are and desire to improve upon the series as opposed to just guzzling down Masuda's semen.

Criticism is born out of love, not hate. The only things I don't criticize are the things I don't care about. To not criticize something is the ultimate insult and way of showing indifference.

>>31637902
50 cents has been deposited to your bank account

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>>31636198
Missing Aether's paradise locked rooms

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>>31636198
also lighthouse in Konikoni and tower in Malie garden

>>31637488
Will-o-wisp

There's also the theory that Melemele was supposed to have two trials, with Mina as a normal-type trainer and Ilma as a fairy trainer. The Ten Carot Hill trial from the demo was probably made with leftover code from whichever one got cut. At some point, they cut Mina's trial, gave Ilma her Smeagle and the normal trial, then tacked her onto to the half-finished dragon trial (where Ryuki was originally supposed to be).

But there's no solid proof of it.

>>31627203
HOLY SHIT I'M SO GLAD I CTRL Fd

FF: Crystal Chronicles was the shiiiiit

>>31636198

I could make an image like that S/M one for every single game, seriously, this idea that every little innaccessible detail is cut content is actually absurd.

Some very quick examples off the top of my head;

>hurr, why cant i go to the Kalos power plant
>or southern kalos
>why cant i use the train
>or those islands in the distance of the sundial

>hurr, why cant i go in that black boat in castelia
>only 1 dive spot, must be cut content
>hurr why cant i take the trains at anvill

>hurr why are so many buildings inaccessible in saffron
>hurr, this machop is still building in Yellow/FR/LG/G/S/C/HG/SS/..., must be cut content

>hurr, cant go to hall of origin, must be cut content
ok technically this has evidence of it being cut when it was planned to be in the final release of the game, but my point is that even if things were cut for something, there is a reason. It could be for pacing reasons, or that they changed their mind to create different content. In this case, they created an entirely seperate, debatebly bigger Event for Arceus. If any of the stuff from that Sun/Moon pic WAS cut, it was likely replaced with something else. And there is literally no evidence to suggest that any of that stuff existed in a playable state beyond "I think i should be able to go there")

Complaining about cut content is like complaining when a movie doesn't look like its concept art. It ignores like a billion other factors in the development, and has no evidence that any of this stuff was ever supposed to be an actual thing. You have zero evidence to suggest that Door X or the cave in the distance, or the lighthouse, were ever supposed to be more than visuals to make the world feel more real.

If you guys think any of this shit is evidence of being robbed for content, you're fucking idiots.

>inb4 Game Freak Shill
I don't particularly love Sun and Moon, and one of my biggest complaints is actually not enough side areas to explore, but this thread is going full retard.

>>31627203
>>31639449
muh nigguhs

>>31639483
absolutely cucked by GF

>>31639622
>wow, this guy isn't autistically deluding himself in a hate circlejerk for the newest games
>lets call him a cuck
(^:

>>31639483
>If you guys think any of this shit is evidence of being robbed for content, you're fucking idiots.
They're just in denial
Screaming "Reee cut content" is more soothing than realization that GF never cared about things

>>31625645
wait for pokemon stars/gen 7.5
:)

>>31639483
>hurr, why cant i go to the Kalos power plant
>or southern kalos
>why cant i use the train
>or those islands in the distance of the sundial

People do complain about those.

>hurr why are so many buildings inaccessible in saffron
>hurr, this machop is still building in Yellow/FR/LG/G/S/C/HG/SS/..., must be cut content

And these.

The idea is that the other games had enough for you to not think about it. In XY and SM, things feel so empty that you start hoping for content and end up getting disappointed.

In every other map art, every area on the map that shows a location is accessible, but on the SM map, there are several places where this is not the case. Imagine looking at the Johto map art, then playing the game and finding out the cool lake with changing water levels, the lighthouse and the underground well were all innacessible, despite being referenced several times in the games. And the Bug Catching Contest couldnt be played, even though you can go into National Park and see NPCs running around trying to catch Pinser every other day.

You cannot deny that the map has several very noticable ommissions, and things are just not okay. If Alola had a lot of stuff, then the things it was missing wouldnt be bad. But when the game has one full dungeon in total, 9 towns with 3 of them not having anything, and plenty of transition screens instead of locations, it's a problem.

>>31639640
Lucky for us you where here to enlighten things

>>31639483
Fuck off, John.

>>31639691
Not John, sounds like you're obsessed with someone.

>>31639683
From what I am getting from this thread, S/M was "so disappointing" because of all it's "cut content", but now you are saying every game has similar stuff people complain about.

So either this is a non-issue in every game, every game is disappointing because of "cut content", or we're seeing a huge double standard here.

Which of those three is it, anon?

Have hope, Anons

Maybe the third version will add these? That is if GF doesn't pull an XY, that is

>>31639723
>but now you are saying every game has similar stuff people complain about
No, Im saying the argument you invented because it's the easiest to refute. Im just saying people complain about those specific things.

>From what I am getting from this thread, S/M was "so disappointing" because of all it's "cut content"

Yes, exactly.

>So either this is a non-issue in every game,
Or the other games have enough content that those problems are less egregious? Not to mention the other games didnt get our hopes up by putting areas of interest on the map that cant be accessed?

Come on man, I literally said all of this in my previous comment.

>>31636687
I am also physically and demonstratably upset.

>>31639769
>Or the other games have enough content that those problems are less egregious?
That's fair and valid opinion that I agree with. I am not defending S/M's lack of explorable areas, and I certainly think it offered less to explore and enjoy than previous games. I just think this thread full of people trying to find proof of cut content is rediculous, and such nitpicking could be applied to every game.

>Not to mention the other games didnt get our hopes up by putting areas of interest on the map that cant be accessed?
That's unfair though. This is, to my knowledge, the first time we were ever given a huge high-quality map pre-release. You could easily infer/over-hype too much from the other maps if you spent weeks analysing them before playing the game.

Giving us the map like that was a stupid mistake from Game Freak IMO.

>>31639723
>not getting it
So you are an autist, indeed. John Gamefreak, ring any bells?

>>31639868
Oh, I am sorry for not playing along with your shitty meme

>>31639908
>dat butthurt
Keep your salt contained. Just because everyone else called you out doesn't mean you have to pout.

>>31639817
I think some of it is going overboard, (I liked the games too) but I dont think it's particularly ridiculous or unfair to SM.

>This is, to my knowledge, the first time we were ever given a huge high-quality map pre-release.
I dont know, every map since Gen 4 has been detailed enough to give us pretty much every location. The Gen 4 and new Hoenn maps even go down to individual routes. But even in the Gen V maps, every location on the map is in the games. You get to ride the Ferris Wheel, you get to take the train to Anville, and you get to travel on the outer mountainside of Mt Silver and see snow, for instance.

If SM had substantial locations otherwise, the map would have been less disappointing, but it just has so little, and so the map just looks like a huge example of missed potential more than anything. Not to mention a few of the places were in game, not the map. I actually thought that cave on Poni led to somewhere myself.

You're right about the last part though, GF's stupid mistake is showing us things that have nothing to them. The Alola map is one, but showing us the Power Plant in the XY trailer was really dumb.

>>31639935
>I make calm rational points
>you scream "salt!", "butthurt!", and "fuck off!" in a thread where you've been complaining non-stop about a videogame

and

>my post got 4 replies
>one person responding rationally, and one person completely agreeing with me
>leaving just you and one single other person who called me a cuck and told me to fuck off

Wow, "everybody" sure "called me out" huh.

>>31639948
>but showing us the Power Plant in the XY trailer was really dumb.
Wow, I don't even remember that. But yeah, pre-release stuff should be kept to a strictly "this is what you're getting" focus. Showing stuff that can only be seen in a speculator manner is just setting people up for disappointment.

>I dont think it's particularly ridiculous or unfair to SM.
>I dont know, every map since Gen 4 has been detailed enough to give us pretty much every location.
But were they shown in high-quality pre-release? I only remember this happening for Alola.

>even in the Gen V maps, every location on the map is in the games. You get to ride the Ferris Wheel, you get to take the train to Anville
If I was trying to follow the mentality of this thread, I would be complaining about how the train in Anville is actually not rideable, that the town is empty and the main thing shown about it on the map is just for show. Now I still consider this a nitpick, with Unova being my favorite region, so when people make that same very exact complaint about the lighthouse in Alola, well it seems unfair.

Being upset about wanting more content is one thing, but nitpicking stuff just because you see it on the map, or in the background, and convinced yourself there was more too it, well thats not fair IMO. You can do that with lots of landmarks and things across every game, and it feels right now that it's a double-standard of criticism against Alola.

I barely even like Alola, it's not in my top half of regions, but this threads complaining just seems really unjustified.

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>tfw didn't fall for the SM hype train

>>31625645
That's on you for getting hyped over a game developed by Game Freak.

>>31636198
What about that cave in Melemele Sea where you get Rock Slide? I felt like it had plans to be more important. That might be reaching though.

>>31640051
>tfw this is my first main series pokemon games
it's not fair

>>31640135
Go back and play HeartGold, then Platinum, then White, and then White 2

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>Game runs like shit because trainer models are on screen and z-move particle effects fuck up the 3DS's garbage processor
>Enemy trainers don't do Z-poses when they activate Z-moves, instead they stand there largely motionless except for when they gesture for their pokemon to attack
>There are 12 pixels tall when they do this so the player can't see them anyway

what the fuck was the point?

>>31640153
>Go back and play HeartGold, then Platinum, then White, and then White 2
>go back and play games that have been out of production for years and for that cost assumably more than what they were when they respectively came out

>>31640187
>paying money for DS RPGs

what did he mean by this?

>>31640187
I dunno, you should be able to get the latter three for a decent price.

HeartGold is admittedly overpriced and harder to obtain though

Game Freak really need to put their games on the Estore

>>31640199
Not everybody is moralless poorfag pirate

>>31640153
>Go back and play HeartGold, then Platinum, then White, and then White 2
Why would you want him to miss out on FRLG and Emerald? By all means feel free to skip the entirety of Gen 6 though.

>>31640187
Get a $5 flashcart.

Also I recommend playing FRLG and Emerald before the games mentioned by the other anon, that way you'll have played every game worth playing by the time you finish them and indirectly experienced Gen 1 and 2 via their remakes (and playing RBY/FRLG before GSC/HGSS makes the latter game better because you'll have gained nostalgia for Kanto).

>>31640216
I see them as less necessary and more flawed. Its much easier to obtain OR/AS (yes I know Emerald technically has more content and challenge)

Gen 1 is on e-store if he really wants to try it, but despite starting with Red, I don't see the big deal in Gen 1. You'll get the same experience + more if you play HG instead. Although I suppose some of the fanservice in Gen 2 will be better having experienced Kanto before.

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>>31640169
>playing moon on old 3ds
>mfw double battles
>mfw I have my sand stream gigalith on the field during

>>31636198
You forgot all the empty lots in all the towns. Pretty important.

>>31640042
Just stop replying to him

>But were they shown in high-quality pre-release?
I wouldnt know honestly. But people would probably still take issue with the amount of non locations. Just less so.

>If I was trying to follow the mentality of this thread,
Well, no, with enterable lighthouses in Johto and Sinnoh, people have complained at the lack of lighthouses you can go into all the time. Like the ones in Hoenn. That one is a specific complaint I guess.

Hell, if I compared Anville to Alola towns, I'd say it was good because it had an interesting setpiece in the train station, an actual purpose in trading items and actual people living there.

And again, it's not exactly about the things by themselves, but these things within the concept of each game. The complaints arent in other games because they "feel" finished, where these just dont, at least to them. If we had no Platinum, I'm sure DP Sinnoh would be treated the same

>>31637902
I love the games but if you get mentally unstable by a bit of criticism you must suck at everything in life.

>>31640237
Gen 1 is the beginning of the series. I feel like it is extremely necessary to play, especially since Gen 2 is basically a sequel to Gen 1. Not to mention FRLG improved many things and added the Sevii Islands which are inaccessible in HGSS.

Also Emerald isn't harder to obtain than ORAS, what are you talking about? And why do you think it's more "less necessary and flawed"? Emerald is an entirely new region and a solid entry in the series that introduced a plethora of new things.

>>31640237
At the very least play FR or LG before HG.

>>31640237
Kanto is bigger and with more content in FRLG than HGSS, it gives a better experience. The only reason Kanto is such a big deal in GSC/HGSS is because it's revisiting an old region, which is cool as hell to people who played the old region, but not really if you never did and only are experiencing its shrunk-down form in the sequel.

>>31627083
Two Genders

>>31640237
You need to play FRLG to experience every region since it's the only one with Sevii besides the Sevii Event location in Emerald

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Why do you suppose they cut so much out? It is laziness? Rushed deadline? Or are they just making it casual as they have said in the past?

>>31625891
I bet Lapras could use Waterfall.

>>31640603
Probably a combination of the three.

>>31640603
>Rushed deadline?
this the most becuase the 20th aniversary
everyone was expecting pokemon z
but then this happen so yeah

>>31640646
I thought that pokemon had a "A" and a "B" team working on different projects? A was for the new games and B was for doing the 3rd renditions. Or is that just a myth?

>>31632799
Me too. I searched for a while and then looked it up and realised... oh wow... it's just unused.

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>>31637950
It couldnt be a bad idea search for the popular opinion in a forum in one of the most famous websites, website that use the languaje that almost everyone had to learn to get a descent job.

>>31640813
>languaje
>descent
Jesus fucking Christ the irony

>>31640835
explain

>>31641416
I don't think there's much to explain, senpai.

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Please let them make your next map, Game Freak.

>>31641475
Or CDP Red

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>>31640603

They can and have. One guy even posted sauce on a doujin at work.

As for Gamefreak in particular, they're so out of touch they probably don't even know how the modern internet works. They'd never find this place. If they did, I doubt they'd post considering /vp/ is a total shithole.

why do we allow this

>>31644663
We have no choice.

>>31644747
do we anon
do we really
or do we keep telling ourselves that

>>31643196
Where's that image of Tajiri discussing how the devs mock fans' ideas when you need it?

>>31629693
>>necromaza battle in general
Necrozma is one of the few good things. The way he pops out of nowhere gives me gen 1 Mewtwo or D/P Giratina vibes.

>>31627249
do you japanese salaryman?
always made it all the shit barely in timeline all the time

Guys...guys...
...what if.....
...what if they make these places accessible later on and have you download them in separate patches (or one big file)? They could have new Pokemon or Legendary Pokemon that we can't normally obtain in Alola.

>>31646638
Its doesnt happened before and I dont think it will happen in the future

>>31646653
I mean probably. But Sun and Moon is kinda different in a lot of ways and maybe this is one of those things.

...I'm really just in denial here. I'm sure they're just lazy jews.