imagine how much more beautiful game freak's spritework could've been by gen 7
switching to a medium they have no experience in was a mistake
>>31563709
Chibi is shit
>>31563715
Kalosperms and Alolasomes are not allowed to post ITT
>>31563709
The games honestly would have been better desu. Every 3D jump gave us problems.
The jump to 3D in DP Platinum made the game super slow
The jump to higher 3D in XY made the battles have poorer framerates and made the overworld lose personality
the jump to full 3D in SM made us lose half the battle modes
>The Nintendo HDS could've been a thing instead of the 3DS
>High Definition DS
>We could've had sprite quality like pic related
>>31563734
kalos still has chibi models
???????
>>31563709
while i do agree, OP's examples are NOT how I'd like a new Pokemon 2D game. They're all rather clustered with a lot of unnecessary shit. Too much going on aesthetically
>>31563709
The jump to 3d was good. I cant wait for a full 3d HD pokemon game on the switch. If we sticked to sprites, all the games would look too similar to each other
>>31563734
>defending chibi
You should be ashamed.
>>31563850
>I cant wait for a full 3d HD pokemon game on the switch.
Never gonna happen. And if it does, it will look like shite and not be what you're dreaming it up to be. Game Freak can't into beautiful 3D. Simple.
Apparently preferring sprites over the character models on this board makes you a nostalgiafag.
>>31563856
The good thing about the overhead chibi look is that it made the tiny ass worlds look big. Alola and Kalos feel smaller than my fucking backyard.
>>31563856
>defending the literal identity of the franchise before it got tainted by masuda's crackpipe 3dporn game
oh yes make me the bad guy
>>31563876
>>31563856
Oh yeah, I forgot. It also made the world more believable by not having stuff like tiny ass ledges you can't go up or slightly darker grass working as route borders.
>>31563821
whoa, what is this from
those are pretty neat desu, would train
WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN!
>>31563821
>Pixel bug
10/10 would karenfag
>>31563821
At that resolution I'd rather have hand-drawn art.
>>31563917
>HGSS maps
good taste, maker
WHAT
COULD
HAVE
BEEN
>>31563821
Sauce me senpai
WHAT COULD
HAVEBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
>>31564116
This doesn't actually look good though
>>31564183
hm
explain your reasoning or lack there of
>>31564067
>>31564116
This looks like shit
You know all the backgrounds in Gen 4 and 5 are models and not sprites, right? And the series has only had particularly good sprites in Crystal.
>>31563709
are those actual games? i'd love to check them out
>>31563784
Its nintendos fault for releasing a console that couldnt even compare to the mist basic android smart phone back then.
Nintendo making consoles is a mistake the 3ds was a mistake and xy and sun and moon should be on samsung phones.
Inb4 some idiot calls me a troll cuz he doesnt like my opinion. Stfu
>>31564273you're not wrong
>>31564213
There's not really an art style to the characters, they're just tossed together from parts. I'll admit parts of the overworld look decent but the MC is an abomination and the old man's head looks wrong.
>>31563709
3D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2D
Stop looking at shit with you nostalgia tinted glasses. 3D only made playing even a shit game like XY a lot of fun.
Not that I expect actual faggots to agree.
>>31563709
Damn, those look gorgeous. I guess I never really thought about how much better sprites could've been if they hadn't stopped working with them. I like 3d an all but they definitely should've waited for a more powerful handheld that would've been able to run it more smoothly. And no I'm not fucking talking about the switch
>>31564312
You realize that just because I think something that came before something else doesn't imply or indicate that I have nostalgia for anything, right? Stop using that as an easy way out of an argument. There's no nostalgia in fact.
>>31564273
>put game on smartphones
>digital only
>always online DRM
>F2P with nigh mandatory microtransactions because literally no one buys phone games more than five bucks and almost no one buys them period
>no physical input without a separate device
It's shit.
>>31563914
>>31563921
>>31564100
Yall like that shit ya dirty cunts? yeah suck that cock bitch mmm
>>31564067
>>31564116
Looks alright, but they remind me of RPG Maker. And like it or not, 3D is the go-to standard for most people when it comes to muh beautiful graphics, so it really was only a matter of time before Pokemon transitioned to 3D.
>>31563821
>dat dandelion snake
>dat pixel bug
>dat ram line
Shutupandtakemymoney.jpg
>>31564392
>Koinobori mon
WANT
>>31563914
>>31563921
>>31564100
>>31564420
have sum more
>>31563821
yeeeeeeeeee
>>31563821
>pixel bug
Gibe
Also, why do they have 4 stages? Are those Megas or something?
>>31563821
What's the Switch's resolution and ppi like?
>>31564496
720p
>>31563709
There's a reason GF changed to 3D, and the majority liked it and didn't complain. 2D was holding Pokemon back. 3D looks so much better.
>>31564479
this guy has good designs desu
>>31564514
WRONG
HONK
>>31564543
What Popplio could have been.
What gens would you guys say had the best Spritework? My vote goes to gen 2 with gen 4 in second place. Gen 2 and 3 for overworld graphics.
>>31564706
Gen 5 > 4 > 2 > 3 > 1
>>31564728
>gen 5
Maybe without the shitty animations.
Most of the sprites are taken from gen 4 and then animated anyway.
>>31564706
i liked gen 5 moving sprites BUT they really needed to be cleaned up some im really suprised they didnt do that for BW2. for overworld graphics its HGSS no question, combine those and i would give GF all my moneys
>>31564769
>shitty animations
im guessing you didnt like warioware
>>31564706
5 > 4 > 3 > 1 = 2
>>31564706
>My vote goes to gen 2 with gen 4 in second place. Gen 2 and 3 for overworld graphics.
I totally agree with you.
>>31564785
This is the only right answer.
>>31564785
>1 = 2
I feel obligated to call you retarded for an opinion so wrong.
>>31563709
The problem with 3D worlds is a ton of them lack the detail and shading spirtes gave. Look at older fire emblem maps vs nu-emblem shit. It's disgusting.
>>31564706
HG/SS > B2W2 > Crystal > BW > everything else > tetris > Gen 1
>>31563821
I love the pixel bug and the medusa (?)
>>31564785
>1=2
i-is this bait?
>>31564993
>>31564842
Yellow had sprites comparable to Gen 2's.
>>31564116
Is this a real game. Where can I find this?
>>31563917
yes
>>31564067
>>31564116
ew no
>>31565034
Most of yellows sprites look like they're edited anime images though, not quite proper pixel art. It also still has the shitty low res back sprites.
I still want XY/ORAS/SM demakes that use the generation 4/5 engine. Do full sprite fangames (like in the OP) look better than the pseudo-3D that generation 4/5 use?
>>31565132
THIS
THIS
THIS
I WANT DRAYANO TO REMAKE EVEY GEN USING THE GEN 5 ENGINE
>>31565132
How would customization be implemented? Or would that feature be removed for said hacks of xy and am?
>>31565317
>am
Meant sm.
>>31563734
Say it with me, Alolalleles.
>>31563829
to be honest, the older I'm getting the more I think that the chibi's were just icon of the franchise and current look ruined everything
>>31563709
That Sprite work looks awful
Even gen 5 looked better than that
>>31563921
????
>>31565317
Well, it could just be a slight change to the overworld sprite and the sprite in your Trainer Card/Passport. For XY, they could implement a contest-ish minigame that features you and your pokémon modeling (cuz y'know, Paris) that incorporates clothing/style into it. Although idk if a hack could incorporate a whole new mode/minigame like that.
>>31564447
Is that a bird dressed like little red riding hood?
>>31565630
I like this guy too but its not the same as what was inn the picture
>>31563821
I actually started drooling looking at these. Help.
>>31563709
Let us switch between 3D models and sprites like DQ11.
posting here bc I agree with OP and hate the 3D they've given us. Think of how beautiful the games could have been.
hey what game is this from? looks really good
>>31563709
I dislike that they stayed with sprites as long as they did actually. If they switched to models earlier than gen 4, they would be much better at making them. The sprites are ugly as hell pre-gen 3, and the static look was awful for making the Pokemon seem "alive" compared to the boring and washed out models. Gen 5 brought some nice movement but they elected to make them warp a little rather than animating separate frames.
>>31565375
>look guys im being contrarian to make myself unique and special!
>>31564365
Pokemon would be fine with a $9.99 price tag and no physical hardware. Thats what they did for VC, im sure theyd make money doing it for regular games too
>>31563877
XY was Chibi
>>31563917
So much this. Reminds me of wind waker's style. GF definitely should've tried to refresh the series with a different graphical style as opposed to shitty gimmicks added every gen .
>>31563709
Rather, waiting so long to switch was the mistake. 3D models are the best thing to ever happen to the franchise. Pokemon have so much more personality now that you can interact with them. Compare to gen 5's vomit-inducing tweens and it's easy to see that sprites had long outlived their welcome.
>muh pixels
seriously?
3DFAGS ARE RAIDING THIS THREAD
ABORT
ABORT
>>31567242
>Pokemon have so much more personality
Post good animations. Don't whine about how models suck and then post idle animations or still images as proof. I don't care if that's all you see on Showdown, Showdown isn't the actual game.
>>31567273
>inb4 cherrypicking
>>31567290
Want me to post every single idle animation that looks more static than a literal static sprite?
>>31567285
looks like ass bro
just accept the fact that 3d is shit and you're underaged for thinking otherwise bro
>>31563821
>four stage lines
>zygarde moth
>my mom's terrakion
>my mom's magnemite line
I respect the dog line, it's different enough from Lillipup, but maybe I'm a hypocrite.
>>31567285
Too bad all the pokemon have only one or two attack animations and most of what you see are idle animations.
Also animation on some Z-moves is fucked. go do All-Out Pummeling and tell me the Pokemon just sliding forward looks good.
>>31567299
3d can look good, you just need to put in the effort.
CyberConnect 2 has consistently amazing 3d work, for example.
>>31567392
>>31567190
>fighting this gym with Acrophobia
Oh god it hurts...
I LOVE IT but goddamn.
>>31563863
They are practicing with 3d. Gen 6 was a like a alpha test and gen 7 was like a beta test. Plus, masuda said the switch is the future.
>>31564728
>gen 5
BAHAHAHAHA