Which four shitmons should get the Ninetales / Politoed / Pelipper / Torkoal treatment next gen and get the four "Surge" abilities + a possible stat boost?
>Misty Surge
Wigglytuff
Galvantula
>tfw almost 100% accuracy electric terrain boosted thunders
>>31535693
Electivire
Beheeyem
Bellossom
Wigglytuff
>>31535693
Zebstrika with Electric Surge, Beeheyem with Psychic Surge, Trevenant with Grassy Surge and Comfey with Mystic Surge
Is Misty Surge even good?
I would say
>Zebstrika
>Beheeyem
>Maractus
>Wigglytuff
because they are usless otherwise.
Mega Fug
>>31535715
>>31535746
>>31535773
Glad to see more people seeking justice for Wigglytuff. It is so outclassed by Clefable, its counterpart, it would be nice of GF to throw it a bone.
>>31535790
>Mantine's Delta Stream
>>31535768
Is having the strength of Dragon moves with a bonus Safeguard even good?
>>31535744
>Compound Eyes accurate Thunder
>Electric Surge boosted Thunder
Pick one and only one.
>>31535768
>is being immune to status even good?
Yes.
>>31535859
"Halving"
I'm retarded.
>>31535744
>Electric surge and compoundeyes
you tried
Altaria
Musharna
Sunflora
Heliolisk
Beheeyem getting psychic terrain would be ridiculous since it already hit hards as hell.
>>31535905
>Giving a flying type Pokemon a terrain ability
Unless you mean Altaria's mega, in which case
>Removing Pixilate
>>31535905
Musharna hits almost as hard as Beheeyem while being significantly bulkier and "faster" in Trick Room. If anything Psychic Surge Musharna would be more of a problem than PS Beheeyem.
And Misty Surge (Mega) Altaria is flat-out retarded, why the fuck would you put auto-Misty Terrain on something with Dragon STAB?
>>31535905
>since it already hit hards as hell
that's assuming it manages to hit at all
>>31535824
I kinda agree with y'all but I think Aromatisse deserves it too, and aromas and whatnot are part of its shtick, whereas it wouldn't make too much sense on Wigglytuff.
>>31535859
But the only pokemon who could get it are fairies, who are immune.
Jolteon: Electric Surge
Vapreon: Drizzle
Flareon: Drought
Espeon: Psychic Surge
Umbreon: ???
Leafeon: Grassy Surge
Glaceon: Snow Warning
Sylveon: Misty Surge
>>31535768
It's not something you'd run Fini for specifically, but it's a very nice bonus.
>>31536222
Umbreon: Dark Aura
>>31536222
poison heal
>>31536222
>Espeon with Psychic Surge
Let's calm down there, satan.
>>31535693
Hypno needs Psychic Surge the most.
At least Beheeyem can hit hard at times.
>>31536261
Psychic Terrain: Grumpig
Electric Terrain: Stunfisk
Grassy Terrain: Sunflora
Misty Terrain: Aromatisse
>>31536153
>what are Doubles
>>31535768
Yes, Fini is just a subpar user of it.
>>31535693
I agree with >>31535746 except I'd give electric surge to voltorb/electrode. Seriously. Just replace static.
And since we don't have them yet...
Mr. Mime: new form with super low speed, ability auto-sets trick room
Claydol: new ability that auto-sets gravity
>>31535790
>Fug Terrain
>All Fugs deal double damage, all non-fugs deal half. Ice type moves deal half damage (for a total of 1/4). Flying Types no longer take SE damage, and all priority attacks except Extremespeed fail. Non-grounded pokemon recover 1/16 of their hp every turn
Musharna
Bellossom
AromatisseManectric
>>31535746
Switch Electivire with Manectric and that's a solid set.
>Psychic Surge
Beheeyem
Musharna
>Electric Surge
Luxray
Zebstrika
>Grassy Surge
Sunflora
Bellossom
>Misty Surge
Wigglytuff
Dewgong
>>31535905
>Heliolisk
>Altaria
????????????
Grassy Surge:
Florges
Gourgeist
Misty Surge:
Chimecho
Musharna
Psychic Surge:
Hypno
Spinda
Oranguru (losing telepathy would suck tho)
Electric Surge:
Jolteon
Alolan Raichu
>>31535984
>>31535905
Now I'm imagining Reuniclus with Psychic Terrain
>>31536480
Manectric has a Mega. It's good enough.
>>31535880
Rain is a thing for taking a Fire weakness away.
NO
NO MORE FUCKING SURGES
Alolan Zygarde (Otherwise identical to normal Zygarde, except ability)
>Terrain Break
Inverts the effects of terrain
Grassy Terrain now inflicts 1/16 hp on all grounded pokemon, and moves like Earthquake now deal increased damage.
Electric Terrain now causes electric attacks to deal reduced damage, and prevents Pokemon from waking from sleep while the terrain is active.
Psychic Terrain causes Psychic attacks to deal reduced damage, and increass the damage of priority attacks.
Misty Terrain gives all status moves that inflict status accuracy-step skipping status, and gives damaging moves that inflict status a serene grace effect (Does not stack with Serene Grace). Dragon moves deal increased damage.
>>31537418
Imagine this.
Cosmog > Cosmoem > Necrozma Gold Forme
Golden Necrozma is essentially another Nebby, having evolved to reverse the effects of Terrains the same way Aura Break does. It can switch between its Golden and Prism forms under special conditions.
It's more fitting since the Tapus raise Cosmog and say it's their destiny to fight it.
>>31537418
this benefits zygarde in almost every way
>boosted EQ and dragon moves
>boosted espeed
>>31537418
Or just buff Aura Break to do the same and then make Complete form permanent