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>Pokemon looks great >is total ass competitively What's

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>Pokemon looks great
>is total ass competitively
What's their name /vp/?
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Lycanroc.
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kingler
luxray
sudowoodo
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half of all ice types
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>>31476745
Vikavolt

>inb4 T-trick room

No, it's trash. Let it go.
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Slaking
Masquerain
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>>31476815
90% of gen 7
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>>31476775
yes


most of the dogmons, actually
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>>31476745
Salazzle
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>>31476745
How could they fuck up this badly?
>>31476786
Have you tried a Specs set?
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Vespiqueen
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>>31476853
Mightyena isn't a dog.
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>>31476881
THIS, it feels like they purposefully made every aspect of Lurantis be shit in competitive.
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>>31476881
Specs/Scarf are shit without V-Switch or U-Turn for in-and-outs. Fucking meme items like the Assvest
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>>31476786

45 is a good speed to work in Trick room though

Also it's still a monster in special attack, 145 and it's not even a Mega
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>>31476972
>meme items like the Assvest
Except Assault Vest is a genuinely good item on mons like Tangrowth, Slowking, and Azumarill.
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>>31476972

>They made a defensive Electric/bug that's immune to ground that hits like a fucking laser

>HURR DURR SPEED IS BAD
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>>31477063
b8
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>>31476745
>best design in the series
>complete shit in competitive
Fuck, golurk deserves better.
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Vikavolt with EV's in special attack, and Defense and Assault Vest is a decent tank that will kill with Thunder and Bug Buzz

And utility with U turn and Volt switch which is useful for going second
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>>31477099
>best design in the series
HAHAHAHAHAHA
How old are you, 12?
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>>31477063
>hits like a fucking laser
You know that doesn't really sound as impressive as you think it does. A laser isn't really a good representation of force.
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Furret
its only niche is tricking choice items, but other than that its outclassed in every other way
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Ariados
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Ledian, it looks like some kind of astronaut to me, like a really bold little space explorer.
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>Nobody mentioned the Lightweight champion of this, Ledian yet.
d-does it not even look good to you?
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>>31477111
Where do you live that 12 year olds have such great taste?
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Lurantis
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>>31477111
>ancient stone golem robot
Yeah, you heard me right faggot.
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>>31476931
>pokemon are only ever based on a single animal
>pre-evo literally has "poochy" in the name

good catch, chief
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>>31477426
actually it's a ground golem, totally different from the stone variety.
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>>31477385
Ledian really does deserve better, they didn't give it anything to help this gen
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Listen, I'm not asking for much. Salandit with eviolite literally has worse bulk than salazzle (252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Salandit: 40-48 (32.5 - 39%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after hail damage, compared to 252+ SpA Abomasnow Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Salazzle: 46-54 (32.1 - 37.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after hail damage). Was a defense stat higher than fucking 40 too much to ask for? Or an HP stat that breaks 50? Or, if they didn't want to do that, a speed stat of 85 or above? Or some of the neat support moves that salazzle gets but salandit doesn't (namely encore and disable)? Fuck. Salazzle's OK, but I really, really want salandit to work, and he just doesn't. It hurts.
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>>31477447
wow ur very gay
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>god-tier design
>innovative typing
>speed is lamentable
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>>31476881
I'm convinced they'll try to make it good, just like Silvally.
Waifufaggotry has saved a couple of Pokemon before (Garde, Lopunny etc)
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>>31477605
>another dragalge bro
Impeccable taste, definitely best kalos pokemon.

At the least it has adaptability and with a draco plate it can kill near anything except fairies, which it has STAB sludge wave for, and steel type. Its not phenomenal but it does its job well enough.
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>>31477452
>they buffed Ariados this gen
>all Ledian got was a Pokedex entry that takes the piss
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Your guess which one in the picture is as good as mine.
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>>31477439
Hyenas aren't dogs.
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Fuck whatever people say to me pic related will always qualify

>>31477605
>>31477667
Dragalge is some top tier taste
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>>31477714
They're canines
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RegiGFhatesus
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>>31477385
>>31477452
>>31477671

>That special defense

>on the worst defensive type next to nice

>>>>>>Iron Fist and a fuck load of moves on a 30 Base
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>>31477750
They're Feliforms, technically they're more closely related to cats and the mongoose.
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>>31477745

Olivia's probopass wont Fucking die

Making Sandstoem to boost it's special defense and paraflinching you doesn't help either
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>>31477757
>BST doesn't even reach 400
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>>31476780
>Kingler
>130 Atk and Sheer Force
>The only usable attack compatible with SF is Rock Slide

Still mad
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I like frogs
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>>31477764
Oh that makes more sense thank you
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>Bastiodon
Irredeemable typing + no offense. Attempting to be bulky with 2 X4 weaknesses
>Rampardos
Godly attack but no speed or bulk. Inb4 its good in trick room.
>All of the Regis
No recovery but Rest Talk. Just give the trio signature recover clones called Reforge, Rebuild, and Re...freeze? Idk.
Make Slow Start only last for three turns, give Regigigas Recover and Protect.
Or, rework him entirely- has mediocre base attack and speed and godly defenses, but it gets a +1 boost to offense every turn and a -1 to defenses.
>Froslass
-30 Attack, +30 SpAtk to give her some offense please.
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>>31477714
yes
and mightyena's not 100% based on a hyena
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>>31477798
Just get rid of slow start and keep the stats the way they are for Regigigas
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>>31477063
>Defensive
>77/90/75 bulk
N8 b8 m8
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>>31477770

Doesn't crabhammer have a critical hit chance?

Sheer Force boosts that no?
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>>31478143

Key word is "bug"

It's bulky without needing to be scizor
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>>31477886
But i kind of like the thematic idea of it slowly regaining strength once unsealed. The only problem is, its unsealed strength just isnt worth wasting 5 turns to keep it alive with no recovery, as it has no way of boosting and is outclassed by huge amounts of mons offensively if they get off a single Swords or Dragon Dance, which takes just one turn.

Maybe introduce an item that suppresses abilities? Give him Skill Swap? Unbound Regigigas Forme as a not-Mega with a new ability?
I just want him to be viable, damn it.
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>>31478161
I don't think critical hit boost procs Sheer Force.
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>Majority of complaints are slow pokemon

>Trick Room is apparently not allowed to be said despite existing for slow Pokémon

>They even added Pokémon that cancel priority

No excuses
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>>31477385
I'm still convinced gamefreak fucked up lesions base stats and it's at and special attack were supposed to be switched, but it somehow made it through and they just went with it and never bothered to fix it.
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>>31478400

It's annoying that both Gen 6 and Gen 7 updated Pokémon stats and Ledian wasn't touched

They even gave Ariados a new move nand Ledian still gets nothing
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>>31478417
Now, now I remember it got something.
Air Slash :^)

But really, can it have something GF?
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>Let's reskin Hammer Arm with an Ice Typing and make it a signature

>But let's not give it the regular Hammer Arm

>Or any good move for Iron Fist
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>>31476745
Pokemon SM
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>>31476745
why did my bro had to be shit :(
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>>31478898
>lillieposter making a good post

What is this, bizarro land?
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>>31476745
Literally the most part of my favorites like...
>>31476780
>>31476786
>>31476815
>>31476909
>>31477099
>>31477385
>>31477605
>>31477682
>>31477745
>>31477753
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Tropius is just awful, but I love its design.
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>>31478996
Heck, why Tropius isn't in SM?
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>>31478898

>competitively

Gen 7 is much better balanced than Gen 6, which in part got rid of Weather Wars
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>>31479016

They can only use the tree gimmick once and they wanted to do it with Exeguttor
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>>31477526
Salandit's situation really is a sha.e, hes got such a good design
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>>31478869
just use close combat lol
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>>31479056
Nah, Gen 7 OU is ass right now. Fuck Tapu's
I don't care about VGC, but literally anything is better than VGC2016, that was a meme format
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>>31479067
Well, I'm sure Tropius will back in the third version with Bellossom, Solrock, Lunatone and other non-Gen 1 with Alola form.
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>>31479089
Why aren't these retards just banning UBs and Tapus anyway
I don't know shit about the comp scene really or who's in charge though
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>>31478176
fucking dustox is better defensively
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>>31479173

No it ain't

Vikavolt is only weak to rock and fire and has more resistances
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>>31478869
>Let's reskin a move and make it a signature

basically gen 6-7 in general
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>>31478224
Slow Start is horrible and so is any variation of it.
Give him Iron Fist or something.
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>>31478869

Just use close combat

Iron Fist Hammer Arm makes it 120 which is Close Combat anyway

Yeti Crab isn't going to survive much anyway, so lowering his defenses won't change anything
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>>31478869
op said pokemon that look great
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>>31477766

Doesn't help that she spams the Sturdy/Full Restore E4 bullshit.
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Dunsparce, Shedinja, Crustle, Avalugg
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>>31479491
Almost forgot Crabominable and Heatmor
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>>31479056
>Gen 7 is much better balanced than Gen 6, which in part got rid of Weather Wars
>weather wars
>terrain wars
>fucking tapus and UBs

Most cancerous meta since gen 4. It manages to be even worse if you only consider GF's official metas.
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It just needed a better typing.
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>>31477757
Nice type seems like a good type to me, it and dark type are super effective against each other, what could go wrong
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>>31479558
>It just needed a better typing.

There no are any dual ice-type good defensicely. Sorry anon.
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>>31477798

Rampardos works well with a rock polish set and Focus sash

It's job to kill everything that isn't priority will make him very useful

Golem does a better job with Sturdy and weakness policy

But it's still good to use on Ram
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>>31476853
Try being a fan of catmons.
Only then will you know true suffering.
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>>31476745
All of my favorites except for A-Marowak. I'm rooting for you, bro.
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>>31479513

>Heatmor

He got a new move this gen we can't explore until Pokebank

Fire Lash

80 BP that will lower opponent defense stat at 100 acc
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>>31479648
Just any extra resistance would have helped. Or even an ability like Filter to reduce damage.
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>>31477712

Who's the artist behind these?
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>>31479558

Keep Avalugg for it's job of being a bulky physical rapid spinner who can nab some kills

Keep it away from special attackers

Also gyro ball
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Silvally
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>>31478869
Just get a hidden ability one, pair it with bruxish in doubles and EV train crabominable to be tanky. Get bruxish to use frost breath on crabominable and boom, 4x attack. Next turn use bruxish to set up trick room and sweep.
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>>31477714
Yeah, and Mew can't learn Crabhammer...
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>>31478869

What pisses me off the most is that Yeti Crab learned Scald

Scald

A move ANY Ice Type wished it could have

And yet he gets it despite being a physical attacker
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Did anyone say Guzzlord yet? Because Guzzlord. Too lazy to look.
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