Reminder that the only benefit of it's 100 base special

>>31473155
Reminder that Decidueye is still the strongest of the Alola starters and one of the strongest starters period.

>>31473180
>There are people who actually believe this

Next you'll tell me Unova is based off of Shanghai

>>31473180
Reminder that Decidueye would have been better if its special attack was lower and its other stats had more points put into them.

>>31473180
Do you like Greninja?

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>>31473193
>>31473198
>>31473205
inb4 200 replies

>>31473180
mega venasaur, mega char, blaziken, swampert, infernape, contrary serperior, greninja, primarina all better

>>31473180
Seal>Owl>Tony the Tiger
Without counting Megas, I would only really say Seal, Serp, Blaziken, Infernape, Gren and (debatably) Ches are better. It's not horrible by any means.

>>31473230
And Empoleon, Mega Blastoise and Mega Sceptile

>>31473155
Poor thing. They really should have swapped his Speed and Sp. Atk.

>>31473180
I liked the owl since its reveal and I must say that it might not be the best starter but at least it isn't Blaze Incineroar, and that being the only Ghost starter is a great advantage to Abilities like Sand Trap and Shadow Tag. Even I struggle to find a good set outside of All-out Attacker Lead with Focus Sash.

>>31473155
>same HP & Def as Dartrix

LITERALLY WHY

>>31473180
Kek.
It isn't even top 20 in the starter rankings.

>>31473368
Torracat has the same Sp. Atk as Incineroar, and more Speed. Why only Popplio/Brionne's stats grow in a consistent way when evolving? They never stay the same or decrease, unlike the other 2 Alola starters.

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>Slow mixed attacker

>>31473260
I disagree with those.
>Empoleon
I can see it dropping RU this gen as Primarina outclasses it as a better special attacker and lacks recovery for a wall. If Z-Mist could be used more than once it might've been good.
>Mega Blastoise
If your not using its as a spinner its utter garbage. Heck, I'd rather use Clawizter than this thing. Its saving grace is that is less passive than Toise with Leftovers.
>Mega Sceptile
Its better than the base form but gimmicky for a mega. Would kill for a better ability.

>>31473155
Until it gets Giga Drain whenever move tutors come back

>>31473463
More people are running Empoleon for rocks or Defog though, plus its unique resistances.

>>31473501
Ah, forgot about it's insane utility. Guess I undestimate it as it's defensive synergy is put to waist with its lack of recovery.

>>31473155
Hay, that's pretty good.

>>31473180
Decidueye is literally almost Meganium tier levels of garbage.

>>31474948
Venusaur>Serperior>Chesnaught>Sceptile>Decidueye>Torterra>Meganium

>>31475307
This is pretty accurate

>>31475307
>>31475334
If we're counting megas then shouldn't Sceptile be above Chesnaught?

>>31474948
You'd be surprised how far spinblocking and defog could go

>>31475307
10/10

>>31475372
M-Sceptile is underwhelming for a mega, whereas Chesnaught brings utility and bulk to the table.

>>31473459
It's gen 3 all over again

>>31475307
I'm surprisingly ok with this.

>>31475464
If we're going by viability rankings then MScep is much higher than Chesnaught

>>31475919
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-ou-viability-ranking-thread-v5-see-page-43-post-1063.3571990/
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/oras-uu-viability-ranking-thread-v6.3580117/

Huh, your right. Its even higher in OU despite the opportunity cost of better megas to use in the tier. What makes Chesnaught less splashable and useful than a mega?