This learns no STAB moves in Pokemon Red and Blue, from

>>31434806
Like he need anything other than Slash and it's 99% crit rate.

>>31434806
It did get Wing Attack in Yellow...at level 50...which, before the buff, only did 35 damage...

>gen 1
>good

Just inject lol

>>31434806
>Implying i would want a gen1 bug atack lol

>>31434813
Persian did it better

>>31434806
>basically guaranteed 140 BP physical attack on a gen where only Earthquake and Hyper Beam could go that high

What else do you want?

>>31434880
>another pokemon is stronger
wew lad

>>31434880
this desu

>>31434806
>Bug types learning bug moves until Platinum that's name aren't Heracross
Funnily enough, Herracross can't learn any big moves with 100% accuracy

>>31434923
>Silver Wind never existed

>>31434923
>Silver Wind? (gen 3)
>Attack Order? (Diamond/Pearl)
>Signal Beam? (gen 3)
>Bug Bite? (Diamond/Pearl)

>>31434943
>implying heracuck is worthy of Attack Order

>>31434943
doesnt learn any of those

>>31434943
>Forgetting X-scissor and Bug Buzz

>>31434942
>>31434943
Ya, those had amazing distribution. Let's not forget Beedrill got twin needle in R/B

>>31434958
>>31434974
>>bug types learning bug moves until Platinum that's name aren't Heracross
>that AREN'T heracross

Nice reading comprehension fagtrons.

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>>31434806
What's worse, it's not that he was accidentally overlooked. He was a Pokemon in Tajiri's first team. They had used it, and still didn't realize it.

>>31434806
But just look at that face!

ACHACHACHACHA~

>>31434806
Back in gen 1 and 2 not every pokemon got or needed a STAB. Sneasel was a dual special types but had pitiful special attack, nobody in their right mind would run STABs on it. Noto nly that but back before gen-4 bug and flying types were kinda bad since they had very few moves with any power. Gen 4 pampered everyone by letteing their stats match their moves so anyone who started after that looks back and is weirded out.

>>31434923
>big moves

gen i is stupid and i don't like it

>>31434806
OP is clearly coddled by gen-4+.

>>31435400
Except Pokemon that didn't have STABs were pretty weak. Things like Dragonite and Gyarados which are fine now were mediocre or gimmicky back then.

>>31435541
4U

>>31434813
Yeah, just let him setup with Swords Dance and th-

>Gen I crits ignores all stat changes, including attack buffs and defense drops

Oh....

>>31435573
Only thing that held Gyarados back was that nasty weakness to electric attacks, otherwise its Special stat was great and had plenty of stuff to work with.

>>31435573
Wrap Dragonite can solo entire teams with ease.

>>31434923
Close Combat
Skill Link Everything

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>those Scythers in Stadium 1 and 2 with fucking Fly

Its like they knew it needed an STAB attack but didn't want the player to have it

>Its a high physical attack with special stab pokemon before gen 4
Whats their name vp?

>>31437362
>Everything
Nice rock blast retard

>Rock moves ever having 100% accuracy other than being completely useless

>>31439887
Sneasel with its dual-Special STABs and 35 Special attack

>>31434864
>Only type psychic is weak against

>You are now aware that no actual Dragon-type moves existed in Gen 1 and Dragon Rage was just a reskinned double power Sonicboom

we all know gen 1 was shit anon
half the pokemon they made they made under the intention no one would use them.
thats why their favorites have wonderful movepools

>>31434864
Bug was actually the best offensive type in the entire game in Gen 1.

Too bad the only Pokemon with a non-shit bug move was Beedrill. :^)

>>31440023
>Hm this psychic type seems pretty powerful.
>Fuck it make them weak to bug
>But only make one offensive bug move
>And make it the signature move of beedril
>But sir he's part pois-
>OUT

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>>31435983
>being serious about Gen I competitive play

Legit fucking autism. Holy shit.

>>31439997
>Poliwhirl

>>movepool

>>31440055
pin missile :^)

>>31440111
>amnesia

>>31440055

>Raise a Parasect because it gets a Bug move and isn't weak to Psychic

>>31434844
>only did 35 damage
No. It had 35 base power. Get it right.

>>31440055
Snorlax was the true anti-Psychic in my last game of Yellow
>Body Slam
>Strength
>Amnesia
>Rest

>Normal STAB with Base 110 ATK and paralysis chance
>Untouchable Special (Defense) with just one or two Amnesias
>Rest to make any pain go away and immediate Pokeflute next turn.

>>31441471
>Strength and Body Slam
>no way to deal with Gengar or suicidal Golems
replace Strength with EQ

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>>31441536
I had EQ on Blastoise and Psychic was on Lapras to handle Gengar. Venusaur was another MVP with that Toxic/Leech Seed glitch, Growth to kill time with 40 PP and to boost Razor Leaf whenever it didn't crit.

Yes it was a generic "PKMN Trainer Red" playthrough team but I'd never tried it on the original games and still had a good time with it.

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>>31439887
>Kingler used Crabhammer on Chansey!
>It did laughable damage!

>>31439887
My boy flareon.

>>31437362
>Rock Blast
>Bullet Seed
>Pin Missle
All 125 bp coming off 185 base attack

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>>31439971
>dragon moves were special in gen 1-3
>dragon dance boosts attack and speed

>ghost moves were physical
>shadow ball drops sp def

>>31439887
Crawdaunt and Sharpedo

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I'm not even going to point out how Explosion was viable on Gen 1 Gengar

>>31437211
>Wrap Dragonite can solo entire teams with ease.
That was nightmarish

>>31442644
Explosion Gengar was viable before the nerf in gen5

>>31439887
absol

>>31441874
Flareon had to wait a lot longer than gen 4 to stop being a piece of shit.

>>31442644
>Boltbeam coverage will never be a thing again
>Subpunch will never be a thing again
>Gengar will never be OU again
kill me

>>31434880
I'd prefer Kabutops before Persian, and Scyther would be my second, Persian would be fourth because I generally started with Charmander so Charizard always had Slash as well

>>31434806
leech life you dumb fuck

>>31445609
when was flareon ever not hot garbage?

>>31445700
>when was flareon ever not hot garbage?
Well, never. But at least it has actually has a move that hits harder than a wet tissue now.

>>31445712
Flareon is the only eeveelution that I can honestly say is objectively shit gameplaywise, it really needs something that makes it at least decent like leafeon when it isn't in on a special attacker

>>31445618
Boltbeam is still a thing, though.
And Buzzwole often runs subpunch.

>>31445773
>Boltbeam is still a thing, though.
Not to the degree it used to be where you had neutral coverage on literally everything and anything that had access to both moves automatically ran both for that very reason.

I admittedly haven't been paying much attention to 7th gen competitive due it being relatively messy at the moment, but if true that's great.

>>31445809
But it still does have neutral coverage on everything bar the magnemite family. And that was since gen 2 when he got the steel typing. Only other typing that would resist the combo would be ice/electric itself.

>>31445751
>Flareon is the only eeveelution that I can honestly say is objectively shit gameplaywise
Glaceon.

>>31445827
Lanturn with Volt Absorb

>>31445857
hail teams

>>31445919
Hail is shit.

>>31445926
what the hail did you just say

>>31445700
>leech life
Scyther doesn't learn leech life, not only in R/B but in every generation.

>>31445926
>he doesn't knows about Trick Room Hail teams