I'll start with DD Chomp.
>>31406619
OP now learns self destruct as its only move
>>31406619
Blaziken gets extreme speed
Thousand Arrows Landorus
Aura Sphere Tapu Lele
Sacred Fire Celesteela
>>31406619
shift gear metagross
Shell Smash for all cocoon/pupa Pokemon.
>>31406669
Volt tackle electivire
Shadow Bone Lucario
You know it's coming.
Purify suicune
Gear Grind Scizor
Roost/Synthesis Celesteela
Extreme Speed Pheromosa
Shell Smash Salamence
>>31406690
Electivire and every physical Electric type needs that buff though.
shell smash
Extreme SpeedSnorlax
>>31406708
>Synthesis is a tutor move
It's only a matter of time.
Quiver Dance Tapu Lele
Technician Kabutops.
Also has Accelerock.
First Impression Pheromosa
>>31406619
Nasty Plot Gengar and Mewtwo
>>31406689
>Pupitar gets shell smash
>means Tyranitar gets shell smash
Congratz, you just gave a tank a jet engine and can take everything out with it.
Shedinja with Pain Split
Chansey with Nature's Madness/Super Fang
Keldeo with Ice Beam or Freeze Dry
Amoongus with Leech Seed
All of the Rotoms with Recover
Taking Z-Moves into Account...
Tapu Lele with Happy Hour
Thundurus with Happy Hour
Keldeo with Happy Hour
Dragonite with Splash
Entei with Splash
Rayquaza with Splash
>>31406668
>Sacred Fire Celesteela
You're an idiot. Sacred Fire is physical and Celesteela has higher special attack. It also has plenty of good fire attacks
>>31406619
Eruption Charizard
>>31406619
Skill swap Slaking
>>31406619
Milk Drink Garchomp
>>31406619
Protect Regigigas
V-Create Charizard
Overheat serperior
>>31407033
Fuck off
>>31407051
>Shedinja with Pain Split
>Not Endeavour
Ice Beam
>>31406746
>A pokemon that doesn't deserve a buff
>>31407047
Shelgon gets Shell Smash
Earth Power and Psychic Fangs
>>31407073
That anon might be onto something tho.
Sacred fire has higher bp than flamethrower, higher accuracy than fire blast, and will be burning things 50% of the time, which is the key factor that would buff celesteela if it got it.
A physical celesteela with EQ, sacred fire and heavy slam (4th move being leech seed or autotomize) works on paper. If you switch marowak in, EQ. If you switch any other physical attacker, sacred fire and a likely burn.
If my celesteela wasn't more support oriented I'd use it.
>>31407073
Celesteela's Attack is only a few points lower than it's sp.Attack. This would let you go Physical with Heavy Slam
>>31406619
For the love of god someone teach OPs Mom Swallow
Accelerock garchomp
>>31406619
Extreme Speed Pinsir and Salamence
An empoleon from diamond
Strength Sap Ferrothorn
Power Gem Cradily
Quiver Dance Rayquaza
Water shuriken cloyster
>>31406668
>thousand arrows Lando
>>31406690
>>31406746
>>31407018
>>31407820
All of these do need a buff tho
Ice Beam Keldeo
Ice Beam Xurkitree
Ice Beam Tapu Fini
Ice Beam Rotom-Wash
Scald Rotom-Wash
Flamethrower for Rotom-Heat would be dope.
>>31407047
Shell Smash Tyranitar would at least be manageable. It still has seven weaknesses, including Burrito Panchu, Machu Picchu, Aqua Jet, and Water Shuriken, while its STABs are either relatively weak or frustratingly inaccurate. It can also be outpaced and Revenge Killed by any Scarfer that's as fast as or faster than Genesect.
Shell Smash Salamence, however, is like if you gave the ancient Egyptians modern fighter jet technology.
>>31406619
Shore Up Zygarde
>zing zap tapu koko
>sucker punch alohan muk
>leech seed mega Sableye
>heat crash primal groudon
>water shrunken wash rotom
Reliable recovery move for Fire-types, call it Lava bath or something.Heatran gets it
>>31408448
>What is Synthesis?inb4 "M-muh grass type" with the sun limit.
>Tyranitar learns Shpre Up
>Skill Swap Regigigas & Slaking
>Body Slam Salamence
>any non grass moves Lilligant
>Head Smash/Brave Bird Aerodactyl
>Guillotine Doublade
>>31408432
>zing zap tapu koko
>not bolt strike
and why would rotom shrink in water?
>>31408249
>Shell Smash Mega Salamence
>Evolite Zygarde 50% form
>>31408620
That still makes it less bulky than 100% form.
>>31406619
Focus Punch Aegislash. Give it a Lum Berry, Kings Shield, Shadow Ball, Flash Cannon, and Focus Punch. There's absolutely no counterplay to this.
Shell Smash Tapu
>>31406642
and V-create
>>31408650
But it is bulkier with a full HP bar, no need to worry about being 1hkod by Ice beam or something.
>>31406705
I'd like Defog or Hurricane more on Suicune but to each their own.
Levitate Gengar
>>31408682
Earthquake.
>>31406708
>Gear Grind Scizor
Fuck you
>>31407033
>First Impression Pheromosa
Hold onto my own asshole
Nasty Plot is a now a TM which the distribution range of Swords Dance. What gets broken?
>>31408600
I meant shruriken sorry
>>31408788
But see, this actually makes sense and should happen
Techno Blast/Boomburst Porygon
Endeavor + ESpeed Shedinja and Conversion Shedinja
Recover Regirock/ice/steel/gigas
Surprised no one said nasty plot gengar
>>31409078
Surprised you can't read.
>>31408249
>shell smash salemence
>>31408249
>it's STABS are weak
>Crunch and Stone Edge
Anon...
Know what would be really fucking wicked? If some madman gave Gengar Shadow Tag.
Rapid Spin Kangaskhan
Flying Press Fug
>>31408923
Yes, but physical attackers have burns and Intimidate to hold them back, while specials only have to worry about dedicated special walls like the blobs. If Nasty Plot became a TM, GF would probably rework Freeze to drop Sp.Atk instead of being a bullshit Sleep.
>>31408697
Still mad
>>31408788
Tornadus-T
>>31407073
Celesteela's SpA is like, 5 points higher.
You're also telling me an attack with a 50% chance of burn is bad on a highly defensive Pokemon?
You're the idiot here.
>>31410747
Why the fuck does Thundurus get Nasty Plot but Tornadus doesn't? Also...
>Sheer Force Nasty Plot Lando-I
>Skill swap Slaking
>>31409173
>either relatively weak or frustratingly inaccurate
Crunch is still just 80 BP - still a lower base power than Thunderbolt or Ice Beam, so yes it's still relatively weak.
>>31408788
>Nasty Plot Chandelure
>Nasty Plot Chandelure in the sun
>Nasty Plot Zard Y
>>31406619
Give ferrothorn recover.
Solar Blade Groudon.
>>31406619
Sturdy Celesteela
>Mega Salamence used extreme speed
anything for floofe bug?
>>31407033
I just puked a little
Scald Togekiss
>>31407232
Nasty Plot and fucking levitate
>>31411144
>Heh. Nothing personal...trainer
>[Desolate Land behind you]
>>31411561
why don't you just add sludge bomb, hurricane & fiery dance as well?
Liquidation Kingler
>>31411625
>Togekiss with Scald, Hurricane, Roost, and Moonblast
perfect
>>31409441
Startle
The Pokemon startles opposing Pokemon upon entering battle, lowering their Special Attack stat.
>this is still not a thing
Boomburst mega salamence
Spore Whimsicott
Fleur Cannon Diancie
Steam Eruption Keldeo
Strength Sap Amoongus
Fleur Cannon Magic Guard Clefable
>>31406619
Lighting rod
>>31411533
dunno, sacred fire? Defog?
>>31411533
Happy Hour.
>>31411745
oh geez
>>31411533
eruption
-10 speed
Huge Power Slaking
>>31408556
>Heatran is a Grass/Rock type
>>31406708
>gear grind mega scizor
>basically a 200 base attack
What the fuck is wrong with you
>>31408281
>>31411561
>>31411745
delet this
Searing Shot Tapu Lele
>>31408556
>Fire types with no basis in plant life should learn a move based on photosynthesis!
Brilliant.
Boomburst Primarina
Psystrike Tapu Lele
Dragon Dance Tapu Bulu
Quiver Dance Lunala
>>31412438
>it missed
Woop de doop
>>31412438
The thread is literally "break pokemon beyond repair". In this sense Gear Grind Scizor is genius
>>31412515
Why not just give it geomancy?
>>31412438
>match it with instruct oranguru on doubles
How much would the meta get fucked at that point?
>>31407307
Is araquanid the only thing that could wall that?
>>31412438
It's actually 225. So imagine STAB Head Smash with no recoil, more accuracy and the ability to break subs.
>>31407051
>Shedinja with Pain Split
that's virtually Hyper Fang or Nature's Madness
>>31407339
Fuck off, tripfag
Bulk up snorlax
let it use z moves after mega evolving
>>31412626
Aquaranid is one of the options, yes.
Other options include:
>Tapu Fini, that can't get burned and isn't weak to any of celesteela's physical moves, but can't really do much back
>Ash-greninja, even despite how frail it is, can take at least 4 sacred fires even with no defense investment (it won't appreciate burn stacking with life orb tho). The problem is that heavy slam and EQ both 2HKO, so it can't switch for free in any case
>Rotom wash could switch into this celesteela basically for free and doesn't care much about burn if it does happen. I haven't seen rotom much these days tho
>Gastrodon can wall this but the only thing it can do back to celesteela is scald burn
But yeah physical attackers are screwed.
>>31408249
+2 252 Atk Tyranitar Crunch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Mew: 422-498 (104.4 - 123.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Thats with going for speed nature over att to give him a sweet 500 speed and almost 700 att
Tapu Bulu with Play Rough
I'm genuinely surprised garchomp doesn't get DD. I never use it and only really saw defensive/scarf sets anywho
>>31412849
That's a +2 STAB on a Super-Effective hit, it'd be really pathetic if it wasn't an OHKO. Meanwhile, Scarfchomp can come in as it boosts, and proceed to outspeed it on the next turn and do this:
>252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tyranitar: 302-356 (88.5 - 104.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Devastating? Yes. Unstoppable? Not really.