Remember when starters actually used to look like cool, badass

>>31401583
No, they've always been that way. Also, how is decidueye furbait? I don't like it but it's clearly just an owl with a coat.

>>31401583
>charizard has more porn than any of the pokemon in the OP.

>>31401583
>work at gamefreak
>need to draw some pokemon designs
>i know i'll draw some cool pokemon the guys will like
>and some girly ones for the female players

I just feel bad for those guys. Furries make everyone think they're furbait.

>>31401583
>not liking furbait
why are you even on this board?

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>>31401583

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>>31401583
"Humanoid" designs are more marketable these days. They appeal more audiences than people who just want animals with a different coat of paint. I really love this generation's starters though. Not because they're humanoid, but they feel very different when compared(smart/calm,tough/fierce,cute/elegant) whereas all the Gen 1 starters just try to look badass and nothing else.

>>31401840
This, i love them.

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>>31401881
disgusting

Blaziken has the best design of all pokémon

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>>31401881
Take Venusaur and make it switch spots with Primarina and it's perfect

>>31401583
chesnaught still looks like a monster the shiny is way better

but yeah the rest of gen 6 and 7 is shit

>>31401881
I'd send Incineroar down to shit-tier, move Servine up to great tier (though I hate using him), Empoleon up to high tier, Blaziken down to low tier... wait, is this for their design or how useful they are?

>>31401583
I wanna fug that frog.

>>31401599
>No, they've always been that way

revisionist history at its finest.

>>31401955
Design most likely. Otherwise Typlosion would be lower than Emboar.

>>31401975
Zard was b8
Typhlosion was b8
Blaziken was b8
Infernape was close to b8
Serperior by being a snake became b8
Delphox b8
Primarina n Incineroar both b8

There's always been b8 m8e

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>>31401881
>Venasaur that high
>Empolion, Serperior, and Tysplosion that low
LOL, nope

>>31402242
Typhlosion is literally my mom. Its a shit design

>>31402242
I don't see what's wrong with Typhlosion being that low.

>>31401881
I almost completely agree with this. Dedicueye is way too damn high though.

Charizard and Blastoise are pretty humanoid

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>>31401881

>>31403405
kys genwunner

>>31403426
I don't even like gen 1.

>>31403405
>>31403434
Maybe you should stop existing then.

>>31401881
This is completely biased friendio.

Although I do not agree, people are entitled to their opinion, even if the person posting thinks my taste is shit

>>31403444
stay mad, catfag

>>31401881
Shit tier taste

>>31403453
>Catfag
>Is actually a foxfag

Owlfags will never learn.

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>>31401583
Fuck the new starters

Ballio and Panthzer are leagues ahead of Trannyseal and Baraman, it's honestly embarrassing how much better fanart is compared to legitimate designs by Game Freak

>>31401840
>Gen 1's starter designs are still the most loved and marketable

Your argument immediately falls apart. People really just want badass animals.

>>31403499
Make your own game if you're so dissatisfied. Hell, create your own franchise. Why not call it, "faggotmons" starring some asshole who thinks his opinion matters on the Internet.

>>31401938
Disgusting.

>>31403517
Lmao triggered Game Freak apologist

Keep eating the shit they shovel in your face m8

>>31403499
>it's honestly embarrassing how much better legitimate designs by Game Freak is compared to fanart*

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>>31403525
'Shit' is subjective. But what isn't subjective is that you're a faggot who should off himself because of his false inference that I'm an apologist.

>>31403499
You mean F**k. We don't tolerate potty mouths here, honey.

>>31403563
>Trannyfag

I'm not surprised

>>31403405
That some shit taste you got there, sir.

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>>31403582
>He thinks that's an argument
Keep crying, genwunner.

>>31403499

See: >>31401644

>>31403599
>Endorses mental illnesses as normal
>Thinks his opinion is worth anything

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>>31403582
>you have to mutilate your genitals to like primarina
holy fucking shit

>>31403631
>>>/pol/
Back to your containment thread.

>>31403653
You don't need to be a /pol/tard to have common sense, Tumblrcuck

>>31403515
>Gen 1's starter designs are still the most loved and marketable

That's called nostalgia.

>>31403671
>>>/r/eddit

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>>31403499
>>31403525
>>31403582

Nothing better than upset Balliofags.

>>31401599
>No, they've always been that way.

They didn't start looking humanoid/excessively anthropomorphic until infernape/empoleon in gen 4. In gen 6/7 they went even further by basing them on actual humanoid archetypes before you start gen 1 false flagging. An archer, a mermaid, a wrestler, a warrior, a mage, a ninja, are clearly humanoid. Blastoise is just a turtle. Charizard is just a dragon

>>31401583
>badass monsters and not humanoid furbait
>posts gen 6 starters
>Delphox
Shut the fuck up you dumb nigger

>>31401583
All pokemon are furbait

>>31403721
OP means Gen 6 is included in the trash you mongoloid

>>31401583
>furbait

Remember when OP wasn't a projecting fag?

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>>31403499
>another fire/fighting
Remember when everyone thought this would happen? Honestly made me love Incineroar after I've already lowered my expectations.

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>>31402013
>Zard was b8
>Furless lizard with no humanoid features whatsoever
>b8

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As a genwunner I am here to remind everyone of the true best starter.

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>>31401599
>they've always looked that way

Blastoist was just a bipedal turtle with canons on its back
Charizard was just a dragon
I still don't know what Vensaur is
Typhlosion is a hunched over badger with flames on its back
Ferligator is just a bipedal Alligator
Meginum is a flower Dinosaur

No they weren't a fucking type of wrestler, archer or mermaid singer with predetermined personalities like RPG characters. They were poket monsters

Go fuck yourself

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>>31403824
Wrong.

>>31401583
not even starters. almost all of gen 6 is waifu bait shit
hence why I'll never get it or any games after

you're completely right though, OP and I'm not sure why people are denying it

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>>31401583
>cool, badass monsters
>posts gen 6 starters

Thanks for the giggle OP.

>>31403846
Fuck off furfag.

>>31401583

Your point is?

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>>31403857
You're missing out then. Maybe not gen 6 but SM are great.

Gen 7 has great designs mostly. Yeah you have garbage like brionne and tsareena but there is so many good ones it barely matters.

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>>31403881
Gen 6 badasses coming through

>>31403846
I want to FUCK braixen?!?

>>31403857
>you're completely right though, OP and I'm not sure why people are denying it

Because we don't have autism and think there is some furry conspiracy.

I literally rage if people think Chesshit is anything other than a shit design and pokemon.

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>>31401583
>Anything based off animals is automatically furbait!

>>31403952
It's not that bad

>>31404884
Yes it is you fucking shitbrained chesnaughtfag.

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>>31404921
fucking TOLD

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>>31403952
>>31404921

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Is it universally excepted that pic related of the best or at least one of the better starters both in design and competitively

>inb4 haha kys johtoddler XD etc.

I actually really like the latest starter trio design wise

>>31401599
kys degenerate cuck

>>31404993
>competitively
No

>>31405009
holy shit, projection

>>31404993
haha kys johtoddler XD etc.

>>31401583
>Do not incite genwars. Keep discussions civil and don't let them devolve into flaming.

>>31405017
>VGC, BROKEN???!!!!
>Haha everything below OU doesn't count haha

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>>31401881
greninja and feraligatr are both seriously overrated

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>>31401615
> A pokemon that is 20 yo has more porn than a pokemon that is 2 months old
Surprising

>>31401583
That would imply Gen 6 had good starters
Which is honestly a hilarious prospect

>>31404993
The way it's drawn makes it look like it has metal panels on it which is Blastoise-tier retarded

And overall it looks like a Flintstones rip-off

>>31403794
>The intense amount of porn just by being popular
Neck yourself

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>>31405050
>gayninja and delphox
>bad starters

>>31405040
I didn't say any of that, you're projecting.

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>>31405060
>making a design that people like is now baiting porn

>>31405074
Than explain why Feraligatr isn't viable in UU, or RU because it will probably move down

>>31405087
>smogon

>>31405081
Decent taste

Torterra in the bottom tier is something I really don't agree with however

>>31405095
>VGC

>>31405103
I wasn't really sure wether to put Torterra or Delphox in the bottom, so I just flipped a coin

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>>31403499
Nah, Primarina has the best design.
Also, that fanart design looks like it's made by a 16 year old.

>>31405081
>Incineroar high
>Tyhplosion high
Discarded.

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>>31403499
>still liking Ballio more than Primarina
This has to be a meme, right?

>>31403499
Ballio and Quad Cat along with Decidueye

GOAT starter trio right there

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>>31403499
I "love" Ballio :^)

>>31403631
Apply the last line to any post in this thread.

Preferably starting with your own ones.

>>31401583
I remember starters actually used to have good stats.

>>31405195
>425 BST on a final evo
>good

>>31405167
>Emboar
>just gets bigger
Shit like this is making me real fucking tired of the "just gets bigger" """""argument""""".
How the fuck does Emboar look anything like Tepig?
>Greninja isn't yellow
Froakie had jack and shit to do with being a ninja/rogue and the tongue scarf comes out of nowhere
>Primarina being red
Not humanoid, can't be described as a guy in a suit. If you have an idea for a mermaid design that isn't somehow pandering to porn artists I'd love to see it.

>>31401583
I'd say they're still making them as good as they always have. The two best looking starters, Zard and Ninjafrog, are 5 generations apart.

>>31405167
How are the gen 4 starters not green? They're the most boring starters in the entire series.

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>People still having starter wars

All starters stink, there, I said it.

They're all cool, honestly. But of all starters' fanbase, Primarina's fanbase feels like the kind of people I shouldn't be talking to, otherwise, the design is only moderately okay and don't have any qualms against it.

>>31405496
Why Primarina's fanbase of all of them? I mean c'mon have you seen Decidueye threads both here and on the Smogon forums? Charizard? Greninja?

>>31405459
All of them except maybe Infernape have just the right amount of change and gets bigger.

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>>31403901
>Yeah you have garbage like brionne
Brionnne is the most adorable middle stage starter. Get some taste.

>Froakie had jack and shit to do with being a ninja/rogue and the tongue scarf comes out of nowhere
Frogadier looked pretty rogue-like. That's what literally everyone saw it as before Greninja was revealed.
And a frog having a long tongue isn't "out of nowhere".

>>Primarina being red
Furfag pandering.

>>31405564
>Decidueye thread

every time I come in here, they're non-existent though, I see more frequently Primarina and Incineroar threads as far as the eye can see, although you could blame time zones for that

And I personally don't have anything in particular against Primarina fans, just that some (not all of them) are kind of

frivolous to me at least and pushy

But yeah, besides that, I'm kind of apathetic honestly

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>>31405605
>Froakie had jack and shit to do with being a ninja/rogue
It was always a ninja/rogue. Its foam covers it's face like the thieves in japan do.

>>31405564
Eh, I'm a primarinafag but owlfags haven't been as cancerous as they were initially. Now it's just the occasional shitposting and maybe one or two people being autistic as fuck.

>>31405605
>>31405649
Sorry, was replying to >>31405221

>>31401881
Just swap Samurott with Shitpoleon and its perfect

>>31405644
>>31405651
I don't know, Primarina fags usually care much more about defending their starter, not saying it's the best or shitposting about others so i really don't have a problem with them.

>>31401583
I remember when Gen 1 had the generic SUPER COOL BADASS starter to attract a cancerous fanbase that would be pandered to so hard it is now treated as more powerful than legendaries. So if that's better, sure? I also remember a ferret that someone set on fire and a bipedal chicken.

>>31405854
Still beats cartoony humans in fursuits that are the gen 6 and 7 starters

>>31405710
It's a side effect of the large amounts of hatred Primarina takes, especially in the early stages of the leaks

I see this with Incineroarfags too

With Owlfags not so much, you usually just had people apologizing for the assholes/falseflaggers

>people still unironically believe GF panders to furries
You can't be serious, that makes no sense from a commercial or artistic point of view given this is a children's franchise, and those are GF's only points of view.

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>>31403824
my nigga

>>31405644
The most I see from sealfags is that they want to fuck ii. Otherwise I don't see them shitting on others much, even if that's partially because they are constantly on the defensive.

>>31405854
There's nothing wrong with cool monsters, that's the whole foundation the franchise is based on. The pandering has nothing to with the starters too, so I don't even know why you brought that up

>>31405870
You have some sort of problem if you really see humans in fursuits there, their proportions and structure are not like that at all. Incineroar is made to be a cartoony villain so his upper body and hand are much bigger than the rest of his body. And there's also nothing wrong with cartoony pokemon, that's also part of the foundation the franchise is based on.

And please, as if GF honestly panders to furries

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>>31405870
Yeah, this definitely doesn't look like a human in a fursuit!

>>31405901
Incineroar, Delphox and Blaziken are pretty much humanoids with animal heads, and don't even try to justify Incineroar's awful proportions, pretty sure IRL heels are not proportion freaks and it just looks terrible when comparing it side by side with other similar pokémon that have actual anatomy and not magical rubber limbs

>>31405921
Did you miss the part about being cartoony y villainous? And they don't look like humans with animal heads. You yourself just mentioned how incineroar looks nothing like a person, and the other two have too much of an odd body shape to look human too. Just because it's bipedal doesn't mean it's human.

>>31405081

Switch Typhlosion and Torterra and I'm willing to forgive you.

>>31405928
You can be villanous without looking like a weird rubber toy. The problem is that Pokémon by itself is cartoony, Incineroar is more cartoony than the average, so it clashes with similar designs like Machamp, and looks absolutely terrible

>>31405884
This. Rather than furfag pandering, it's more like:
Incineroar - Homage to the wrestler Tiger Mask, which is popular in Japan and Masuda seems to like him too(judging by his twitter). I admit it did feel a bit furbait-y when I saw that wink in refresh.

Primarina: Pretty much catered to appeal to little girls, not surprising from marketing point of view. Even in official videos, it's only ever shown with the female trainer.

Decidueye- A cool rogeuish archer archetype, probably to capitalize on a few aspects that made greninja popular. I'm kind of unsure on this one though.

>>31405213
>*525 BST
Fixed it for you.

>>31401881
>>31403405
>>31405081
>all this chesnaught hate
I always knew /vp/ had bad taste but damn

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>people thinking Primarina is anything but bottom of the barrel moldy garbage

>>31406032
>Caring this much about other people's tastes

Why are people baiting this thread do hard? OP was clearly joking and saying Kalos trio is cool, badass monsters parodying typical genwunner threads

>>31406032
Yeah, they are called people with good taste. Primarina has a pretty good design.

>>31406032

(You)

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>>31405914
TBF,it would be impossible to make a fighter based on this not look like a human.

>>31405605
>Furfag pandering.

Nice meme answer.

>>31401881
I agree with this desu. Just switch Incineroar with Decidueye and it's good in my opinion.

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>>31404993
Agreed

>>31406128
They could have at least let Blaziken keep the chicken legs.

>>31403710
It didn't really "start". The anthro starters just gradually increased until we got this mess. Also, Empoleon looks like a penguin. There's nothing humanoid about it.

>>31405081
Switch incineraoar with charizard. Switch primarina with greninja, and switch empleon with decidueye. And I might just forgive you for this shit list

>>31406032
Fuck off Tumblrina poster.

>>31401881
>Greninja, Charizard, and Blaziken that high
>Typhlosion grouped with Chesnaught and Delphox
>Primarina not in bottom tier

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>>31403710
>mermaids
>humanoid

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>>31403952
>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>>31405043
Feraligatr isn't even the most popular starter of its trio.

>>31406270
>mermaids
>literally mongrelized name for Nereids.
>not humanoid
For fucks sake every single Greek hero'd like to shag one. And as opposed to Zeus they rather kept their dongs in humanlike things

>>31406310
>heyy, your soup tastes like piss?
>don't worry his gravy's made of pure shit, be grateful you ain't him

>>31405167
>Charizard not yellow
It literally sprouts wings only on its final form

>>31405933
Pokemon is a pretty varied range of cartooniness.

Is it so hard to just say you don't like it and move on?

>>31405087
no. never ever EVER let Feraligatr go back to NU. I refuse to relive that nightmare. I don't want to have to run Charm Lumineon anymore.

>>31403794
Greninja is literally just a frog standing up. It and Frogadier are the most frog-looking mons we have. The only "human" feature it has are shuriken "tattoos".

>>31406211
>reversed high jump kick
kek

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>>31401583

Are you retarded?

Do you even know the definition of internet rule #34?

"If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions"

Every single starter from every generation has porn of it. Even the ones where you wish there wasn't porn of , there is porn of it.

People have been drawing porn of the starters since gen-fucking-1.

The only reasons you may see more porn of one over another, is because:

One has existed longer than the other.
Some have designs more aesthetically pleasing in general. (doesn't matter how humanoid it is or not, it just has to "look good", which includes your view of "cool")

>But they draw them with human features to make it furry porn

Fuck off. There is also countless porn of all of them completely on-model. There could be no furries on the entire planet and you would still find porn of all of them.

But what's even more pathetic is that you actually let all the porn bother you. Grow the hell up. if you don't like soemthing, ignore it like a normal human being. Shit only bothers you as much as you let it.

Come back when you're actually old enough to post on this board, and your balls have dropped.

>>31405167
>Charizard
>anything more than the same generic fucking dragon that's existed for billions of multiverses
Nah, fag.