Why is no one talking about this shill? He's wrong and defending

>>31362170
Really? Everybody was talking shit to Sony when they did it...

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>people don't react to thing that has been done for years
>people react to thing that is new and doesn't fit the precedent in context of the company

wow you don't fucking say?

>360 has paid online
>People shit on them
>PS4 announces paid online
>People shit on them
>Switch announces paid online
>People shit on them
>This is somehow a surprise

?????????

>>31362170
I don't support Nintendo's decision, but Joe isn't wrong here. If you're paying the other companies with arguable worse online services, it's at least understandable why Nintendo would want to charge too.

>>31362205
Yeah but saying "nobody bat an eye" is wrong since there was clearly reactions when Sony pulled it back in 2013.

>>31362205
>but Joe isn't wrong here
Nope. He's wrong.

>with arguable worse online services
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>31362170
What? I was under the impression that people were upset about paying for online when Microsoft and Sony did it, too.
>hmmm.....really makes u think

I don't remember "not batting an eye" when I found out ps4 used paid online. I remember being pretty steamed, actually.

After all, Dark Souls 3 was the only Souls game ever where I didn't have the option of doing co-op and pvp. Paying monthly subscriptions for games and systems I've already bought runs counter to my fiscal sensibilities.

In any case, he's completely full of shit.

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>>31362170
No shit people are gonna complain, Joe. Nintendo was the only one of the three to not charge for online until now. People did the same when Sony started with PS4.

>>31362170
Joe was always a Nintenshill
Otherwise they wouldnt cooperate with him

This Is pretty damn stupid but he brings up a point. But hey you see what happens when you want Pokemon on a console switchfags? You get bit in the ass.

>>31362184
Nah, rational people were trying to but the E3 they announced in was also drowned out by the "we the gamers" speech and a couple of hype announcements they were saving up. Xbots didn't care since they were already paying and couldn't laugh at them for their better E3 presentation, Nintendo was probably dead or on maximum overhype at the time, PCfags probably tried to, but Sonyfags deflected everything to "b-but microsoft has been doing it for years!"

>>31362214
I won't be.

>>31362218
I just read that as "nobody bats an eye anymore". Joe is wrong if he think Sony didn't get a backlash for it initially.

>>31362236
Online is free until fall. If people keep bitching Nintendo could back on their decision

>>31362205
You think Nintendo has better online services than PS or Xbox? Alol.

>>31362201
>360 actually has good services
>people stop
>PS4 actually has good services
>people stop
>Switch won't because Nintendo is fucking retarded

>>31362318
>>PS4 actually has good services
If by "Good" you mean "hacked every couple months" then sounds right. At least Nintendo doesn't get hacked this badly.

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>>31362170
Hmm...really makes you think, huh?

>have to pay to trade Pokémon
>have to pay extra fee for PokéBank
Unacceptable.

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>>31362290
I would have thought that you retards would have learned by now that throwing a hissyfit and harrasing others isn't going to get you what you want, but I guess I'm just naive

With my Xbox One I can buy gold and get several free games a month, discounts on games, a rebate (albeit small) and via homesharing my sister can get 99% of the features on her Xbox One.

I doubt Nintendo will try doing anything like this.

>>31362184
PSFags literally came from the woodworks to defend it

>Xbox has had a good online infrastructure since implementing Xbox Live
>PS3 online was shit, but free
>PS4 online now payed, but a much better infrastructure
>Nintendo has been infamous for being super shitty with their online experience
>now paid
Really oodles your noodle...

>>31362501
Go home, Joe.

>>31362501
That happens for anything everywhere, but most people are against it, espcially ps fans.

>>31362481
When the Switch sales numbers come out, I think Jewtendo will be willing to listen

>>31362512
>Xbox live
>Good
Sure anon. PS3 online was better and it was free and I'm not even a sonytard or whatever the meme is.

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>most don't bat an eye
Maybe for xbox. The move sony made to charge rent for online connectivity was atrocious.

Xbox's can be slightly forgiven for being a grandfathered-in system, though it's also disgusting.

There are no such pretenses for Sony and now Nintendo can't even be faulted because of them.

Just awful.

>>31362520

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>>31362205
>pokemon, blah, blah, friends, online, blah, worldwide, connect, blah blah no boundaries, since forever
>but now only if you spend money worth a new game
>some people will defend this

>>31362606
>still using good boy points as currency in 2017
get a fucking job

>>31362241
Was that the same E3 that Sony "won" because Microsoft announced always-online DRM on Xbox One, which Sony instantly mocked?

As entertaining as E3 is, it's a shame you can distract from any shit if you make enough jokes.

>>31362170
What was that Joe? I can't hear you. Did you say CEASE AND DESIST? That's what I thought.

>>31362170
maybe if nintendo was on the same level as PS4 and Xbone then a paid service would make sense. but nintendo is too afraid to let go of its precious mario, zelda,and pokemon so they stay as a baby ass company. Nintendo is trying to act like the guy who can kick your ass after one day of training towards the guys whom been doin it for a good couple of years now.

are you just now figuring out that joe is a massive nintendo fanboy? i muted his ass so quickly after sun/moon release

>>31362170
That isn't what he's complaining about. He's complaining that Sony/Microsoft fans eat paid online up, yet everyone is flipping their shit over Nintendo having paid online.

Its bullshit regardless of the console, but he's not setting there defending the paid online, just bitching about people's reaction to said paid online in comparison to paid online for other platforms.

Its very basic comprehension.

>>31362481
It works when I do it.

>>31362874
No, he's comparing peoples bitching about people's INITIAL reaction to Nintendo premium online to other premium online platforms.

It's not equivalent and fucking retarded in order to make anyone who has a problem with it seem like they're making a moutain out of a mole hill and being hypocritical.

Sony was catching flack when PS+ was introduced. It's the same thing that's happening with the Switch and so too will people buy it up anyway and it will become normal.

>>31362318
As a lifelong playstation fuccboi there online services are hardly great.

there's a reason ive only had handhelds and pcs, i already pay for my internet once i'm not doing it again

>>31362170
Fuck off Sunain.

>>31362860
>>31362860
>>31362170
He's a fanboy sure, but he's right in this instance. Calling him a shill to dismiss everything he says is just ad hominem. The reaction to those first two charging for online wasn't nearly as vocal as this shit is now.

The problem is that it's a company charging for online services, it's because it's NINTENDO charging for an online service. A service Nintendo hasn't done right since they've implemented it.

Why would anyone pay for friend code, forced parental control, "online" bullshit?

>>31362334
>At least Nintendo doesn't get hacked this badly.

Why would you hack a service that doesn't offer you anything worthwhile? Plus the 3ds has been so hacked that you can straight up download games from the Nintendo servers.

>>31362170
Way to ignore him saying how concerned he is about it just to namecall him

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/819787489476943876

>>31363201
I don't think I agree with OP, I remember Sony also being shat on over their paid online, but he's right on the money with his worries.

>>31362512
>free online is a thing of a past

>>31362170

He's not wrong but part of the problem is that up until now Nintendo online services have been garbage compared to Xbox or Playstation.

Wii-U has no voice chat and 16-digit friend codes instead of just a regular usernames/friends list system, if the Switch doesn't change that it will not be worth paying for.

>>31364285
Wii U has a proper friend list. It doesn't have Friend Codes and it has voice chat in certain games including Mario Kart 8

>>31363234
good honestly

maybe nintendo online can actually be decent now. i'd rather pay a little bit for something that works then not have a working online

1 - Nintendo online services is a shit
2 - Nintendo don't make everything with a multiplayer game. I think the only game worth online is Splatoon.
3 - I bet that Switch will not have dedicated online server for every game.
4 - One game for month is not worth it
5 - Paying to chat online

Also,
>Xbox have a very very great online service. Also, you can get Gold easily for $1 a month

>>31362318
>PS4 actually has good services
Nice bait faglord

>>31362318
>PS4 actually has good services
>people stop

PS4 still has shit services.
People still bitch about it, just less people.

Exact same thing will happen for Switch,

>>31362624
I have a job and I don't want to fund those jews reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>31364714
>2 - Nintendo don't make everything with a multiplayer game. I think the only game worth online is Splatoon.
This is my main complaint at the moment, but
>Also, you can get Gold easily for $1 a month
We don't know the price point yet and are losing our shit. Until then its hard to say.

>>31363081
People's information. Some people are dumb enough to tie things like their credit cards and personal info to their account.

Joe "nice teeth" merrick always has been a nintendosucker. He still has hopes to be an ninty ambassador and have free games.

>>31362170
>>31362170

Probably because Sony and XBawks actually make good products.

>>31362214
You're the minority. If you want to make an impact, the majority of players needs to stop supporting the practice, and at this point it happening is just as impossible as stopping the DLCs, the PC Games bad ports, the Pre-Order trend, etc.

>>31363234
PC says "Hi" though.

>>31365263
>actually make good products.
>fake 4k
>good
>poor man's PC
>good
yes

>>31362170
>Why is no one talking about this shill?
Thats a laugh, in reality they don't fucking stop.

>>31362294
One hopes with a paid service things would improve.

>>31364871
>We don't know the price point yet
It's $10 / month

>>31365577
Source?

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>>31362170
>getting this butthurt over $60 a year
Such a shame that your neetbux can't cover that.

A)People threw a shitfit when Sony announced paid online.
B)Sony at least gets third party games that have decent online multiplayer.

>>31365770
There's hardly even 10 games worth getting on the PS4.

>>31362318
>PS4 actually has good services

>>31365770
>Sony at least gets third party games that have decent online multiplayer.
Isn't Nintendo trying to get those third party games too now?

>>31365990
FIFA alone will give them net play revenue

>>31365990
Do you honestly believe this?

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Paying 60 dollars for online gaming isn't really a big deal if you have a job.

>>31365990
dude its gonna be like the wii u. theyll get some third party games, then devs will realize there is no point in developing for the switch when its much more beneficial to develop for ps4 and xboner, and then switch will have no games and die.

>>31366056
>We got fifa on board!
>we got the creator of Let It Die on board! He's even going to give us No More Heroes 2!
Do you need them to give you a dudebro shooter to convince you?

>>31366112
You forget you're dealing with autists who literally live their life on videogames. Of course paying for entertainment is a big deal to them.

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>>31365716
>>31366112
>people doesnt mind pay for what was free before
nice meme you have there

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>people here complain about paying for online like it's a basic need

Holy shit you guys are pathetic... I hope trump decides to force all of you useless neetfags to go to some kind of employment camp.

>>31366153
>much more beneficial to develop for ps4
Yeah that's why it has been 3 years and ps4 still barely has anything worthwhile to play, barely any releases worth waiting and half the tba releases already fall off (hello rime, nice seeing you in switch montage) or in development hell

>>31366271
Why is it big deal to you lil babykins?

>>31366112

>I don't mind being fucked in the ass because I can pay for lube.

I'd actually pay online if they find a way to keep injectfags and emulapoors out of it

>>31366301
m8 i mean in terms of profit and hardware limitations

switch's hardware is not good enough compared to ps4 and xbone and that's a fact

and more people play on ps4 and xbone so obviously they will buy the game more on those consoles

basically nintendo is setting themselves up for wii u 2.0

>>31366112
Having money doesn't mean you have to give it away to juice

>>31366331
thanks for the quote anon, 10/10

With all the random reaction images praising another part of video games going to shit, for a moment I thought I was on /v/.

I get that everything is so awful that now there's only a twisted satisfaction at seeing it become even worse, but give it a break already.
Or are you just one of those Redditors who considers 4chan their shitposting toilet?

>>31366347
i dont think casuals care for the hardware, also look at the wii, when it comes out it was over prized as hell and was a succed.
its not that easy

>>31366355
>>31366271

It's called business (and also reality). Sony pulled the same shit when they released the PS4 and everyone claimed to be against it, yet it still outsold the Xbone and Wii-U (until last year at least).

These corporations do this shit because they know that even though they will get a ton of backlash, there are still millions of people who will pay for it anyways.

Unless a very large amount of people actually take a stand and don't buy it, Nintendo will suffer no consequence.

And when you consider that Nintendo's primary demographic is children who buy shit with their mommy's credit card, I highly doubt they will have a problem pulling this off.

By 2018 people won't even remember how mad they had been about having to pay for online, just like with PS4 players and Xbox players before them.

>>31366331
>I won't date a girl if she doesn't give me pussy on the first date for free

>>31366384
yeah but the wii was something fresh and new, hell even revolutionary. yes it was a gimmick but a fun one.

switch is just... a bad gimmick. and its not revolutionary, or fresh (wii u was also an unfun gimmick) so its just a shittier ps4/xbone with not as many games

>>31366347
>m8 i mean in terms of profit and hardware limitations
We don't know shit about how hard and costly is to develop for switch, Suda was implying developing is easy enough and it's not wiiu 2.0 anymore
>hardware
No one actually cares outside of a bunch of fat autists on internet forums, the ones who care are entirely pccucks anyway. General people want to play games and care only about how they run, and switch is shaping up to be a possible hit for casuals so we can possibly get wiiu 2.0 instead but not terrible

>>31366414
We don't know what's a bad gimmick and what's a good gimmick until after it dies.
I remember the kinect being a "bad gimmick" until shit like Just Dance and K Sports became best sellers

>>31362236
Pokemon isnt on Switch.
At least no serious games, just Pikachu Park and meme garbage MAYBE Mystery Dungeon 6 or something.

>>31366438
you are right on that anon

>>31366427
>n-no one cares a-about hardware a-anyway so it d-doesn't matter!

uhh... what? yes it does...?

>>31362170
>paying for online
>consolecucks

pc gaming master race here

>>31366576
>hacking
>pccuck
>>>/v/

I shit talked all three for it, like most peopel

>>31366271
Guess you better not ever pay for a new console. Grow up.

>>31366400

>just like with PS4 players and Xbox players before them

Im-fucking-plying.

I'm seriously considering returning my PS4 because of this shit.

>>31362170
>tfw the eeveelution postgame quest was about the online paying and switch

>>31362170

That isn't Joe; Joe doesn't curse. Confirmed fake news.

>>31362580
Son this shit just makes things so much worse. Get fucked.

>>31365787
I've already purchased twice that amount in the time I've had mine. And half of them are exclusives.

>>31362205
>arguable worse online services
Arguably worse if you're fucking retarded maybe. Nintendo is literally a decade behind the competition.

It's 2017 and we're still using friend codes, my purchases are still tied to hardware and need to be manually moved by the company, they still don't have a native voice chat application, etc.

Microsoft does online the best. It's a shame the Xbox One is shit.

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>paying for online

>>31362170
>defending a feature we had free for years.
Wait I missed us having good voice chat all these years?
But seriously, he's wrong saying most didn't bat an eye. This shitstorm honestly is kinda underpar compared to ps4.

Joe is practically a paid Nintendo shill at this point. Do not take anything the guy says seriously.

>>31367286
maybe im pushing the bait right trough my buthole, but what its your point?

>>31362481

It works if you actually stick to it and get enough people to help instead of just giving up.

>>31362170
@Shitrebii

It's because it was the LAST one that remained free you dipshit. No one would bat an eye if Sony were in this case instead of nintendo.

nintendo online servers =/= game freak servers.

pkmn trading will remain free. ever. it is gf's main idea for pkmn they would kill themselfs if they would.

>>31362170
He's just trying to stay relevant by triggering autists now that Sun and Moon hype is over. Sad

>>31370930
i really hope that's the case, but then again you also have to consider that GF likes money... a lot

>>31362170
Is there at least going to be a Games with Gold (the only thing that makes Xbox gold tolerable) equivalent?

>>31370966
and that's exactly why they will never charge for the main core idea and activitiy to do with pkmn known as trading. people would buy way less games if they do which means less money. but oh boy could I be wrong. still don't shit your pants until they announce pkmn to be part of this.

>>31370975
You get a NES/SNES per month but it's only for that money. You have to pay for it at the end of the month.

>>31362334
By hacked every couple of months do you mean DDOSed the exact same amount as XBL these days? If so then yeah.

>>31362170
>Better Online Services
>Free Online Services
Pick one.