So how is the subscription online gonna fuck up Pokémon

>>31361913
If its less than 30 a year not much
It its more than 30 online will be harder because casuals wouldnt pay that much to use online

>>31361913
>filtering out normies is a bad thing
Less shit on WT and better matches on Battle Spot? I'm okay with that.

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/819794951122731008

>Microsoft and Sony charge for online and most don't bat an eye. Nintendo announces a charge and everyone loses their shit. Hmm...
fuck off Joe

Pokemon is mostly the only Nintendo game people play online. Besides maybe Mario Kart 8 and Smash

PS4/Xbone has lots of third party games like CoD that dudebro normalfags play

It's bad. People bitched when Pokemon announced Pokemon banks costs 5 dollars a year. This will cost much more. There won't be kids with hack mons on gts and trash battle spot players so it's fine for me. I'm not a poor fag. I got a job

Fuck off about the Switch already, there is no reason to believe Pokemon's going to be a console

I really don't think GF has the staff or experience to actually make a game with current gen assets and content. Unless GF is going to see some serious restructuring soon (which could be great).

>>31361948

to my understanding it is paid to use outside of wifi.
if youre in range of wifi the internet is free?

>>31361932
I still can't believe they fell for le paid online meme.

The paid online multiplayer is for the Switch only. The 3DS and Wii U are unaffected by the change.

I don't mind paying for online services, but the bank better not cost money anymore at this point. It's more of a principle thing than a cost thing. If I'm paying for the whole shebang they better not try to nickle and dime me just because I happen to like Pokemon.

>>31361939
>Splatoon

They're preparing for an online-orientated series of games (I suspect Arms will be similar to Splatoon).

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>>31361947
>No more dumb kids to cheat out of cover legends on gts anymore

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>>31361949
It was timing thing. It will definitely be announced later this year

>>31361959
Where did you see this?

Maybe TPC will demand Pokemon doesn't need it because having to pay a subscription to trade will fug with their marketing.

>>31361968
I don't give a shit about that, I only want online Pokemon for free.

>>31361971
injected mons will be able to be transferred from 3ds games

>>31361913
Moderately. Nobody gives a fuck about how shit Nintendo's online service is because it's free. If they start asking people to PAY in order to access barely functional online content full of random bugs, glitches, and hardware collapse, people are suddenly going to care a lot more, demand fixes repairs and updates, then cancel and either ask for refunds, or jump ship entirely when those fixes don't come.

>>31361949
There is no reason to believe a new Nintendo handheld is coming soon either.

>>31361959
what the fuck is this even supposed to mean? its not a literal internet service, its a service like xbox live or ps plus

It will mean that only a fraction of the people will be playing online. Wouldn't be surprised if only 1/4th of the people play online now.

>>31361949
Don't really have a reason to believe that when there's no hint of a successor to the 3DS and the Switch more or less doubles as a handheld.

>>31362011
I'll only be playing on showdown

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>filters out BRs and japanese children
>costs me money
A bittersweet feeling.

>>31362011
Thru failed the first 2 global event casuals don't know what game sych and global link is

>>31361939
Not to mention that's false. Sony got a lot of shit at the initial announcement of PSN costing money, which was only quelled when Sony said they'd work to improve the server quality.

Then the server quality was roughly the same and they went back under blast, except now Sony doesn't care because they've already got their shekels.

>>31362008
wait, if it's not a literal internet service, what am i paying for?

>>31361939
>Microsoft and Sony charge for online and most don't bat an eye
he clearly never had to pay for Xbox Live Gold

>>31362027
If Xbox live is any good indicator on the people it filters out, don't get your hopes up.

>>31362049
Paying to access their servers.

>>31362027
I've fought a BR exactly once online. Had a good match.

Is it just xenophobia?

>>31361913
There better be good free games since they're doing that pay to use online shit.

>>31362066
You need a larger sample size.

>>31362070
There are like 10 BRs registered on the Global Link. Explain yourself.

>>31362049
>Try to play a game on Playstation4
>messaging friend and browsing internet just fine

>YOU NEED A PLAYSTATION GOLD™ --- er, I mean Plus, TO USE THIS CONTENT XDDD

BUY 3 MONTHS NOW??
- $24.99

>>31361913
Vanilla casuals wont care since they drop the game after beating E4 anyway
Autistic causals (ie. shiny hunters) will probably stick to their own stuff only
People who like battling will switch (no pun intended) to Showdown because who in their right mind would pay for this slow-ass shitfest that is GameFreak's online
Hacking will become even more common due to people wanting to save on trading/downloading events

>>31362011
Showdown will be our savior

>>31362027
Was "people of X nationality" ever a problem in Pokemon? Most of the time I don't even bother to look what's the nationality of a person I'm trading with on WT, cause they're all equally as likely to send me garbage.

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>>31362068
lol

>>31362196
>You get a free SNES or NES game for free each month
Sounds cool
>but you only get it for that month.
Fucking hell, Nintendo. Inafune dying was the worst thing to happen to this company. They were always stupid jewlords, but at least he tried to keep the worst of it in check.

>>31361949
Alright, say it never moves onto the Switch

Here's another issue

How long until 3DS servers go offline? No way that will run forever, especially if it cuts into online profit. And if the console's online costs money, why would the next theoretical handheld have free internet?

>>31362196
>for free a month

"Free for a month" or "for free each month"?

>>31362227
>Inafune

>>31362196
>>31362255
>free (you need to pay first though lol)

>>31362261
Fuck, you're right. Wrong guy.

>>31362240
>why would the next theoretical handheld have free internet?
If they notice that shit's selling worse than the Vita, they might get a clue.

>>31361913
>pay for pokebank
>pay to be able to access pokebank on the switch
Please understand

>>31362328
Do you really think they won't have enough people to end up at least short sightedly seeing it as worth it?

>>31362351
To be fair, they did say "most games", which would imply that there are games and apps that DON'T cost to play online.

>VGC2037
>500$ entry fee
>+50$ pokebank extreme per year
>+30$ monthly DLC for up to date ruleset
>+100$ a year to unlock online features for nintendo games
>Ray Rizzo wins automatically because no other participants

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>>31362443
>Implying someone won't pay off a hit man to leave half-dead in the Mojave Desert or Cascades when Worlds is hosted.

Fuck I just realized

How long will they keep 3DS servers up? Because once those go down, we have no way to transfer from Gen 3, 4, 5, or 6

Again, thanks Gamefreak for forgetting about future proofing your shit and I just realized they'll just indefinitely release remakes to capitalize on this

My fuck now i get why people hate remakes

>>31362493
How's the current transfer path go?

>Gen 3 game into a DS' GBA slot to transfer to a Gen 4 game
>Transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5 via ???
>Gen 5 into pokebank, picked up by Gen 6 or 7
>Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 original copies can't be transferred, but Gen 1 eshop versions can be.

>>31362505
>>Transfer from Gen 4 to Gen 5 via ???
Need 2 DS. It's via download play.

>>31362513
>Need two of an old-ass system
Welp.

>>31362521
You can use your 3DS

>>31361913
>people still the honk they're gonna make a mainline Pokemon game for the Switch

I can't wait to never find an opponent on Battlespot ever again. Thanks Nintendo.

>>31362732
Dude the 3DS is almost dead, it will be in the ground by this time next year. Switch is the future.

>>31361932
This isn't even true. PS+ is $60 a year.

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>>31362827
What a bleak future

>>31362827
>Switch
>Having a future
Pick one

>>31361913
Hopefully you get Bank covered in your paid subscription.

>>31361913
Not at all because the Japanese don't care and Pokemon fans will pay it regardless. I mean fuck you already pay for a literal box to house your pokemon.
>>31362732
Masuda already said the Switch was the future, deal with it.

>>31363069
>something with Zelda, Mario, and Pokemon not selling

Oh you poor naive soul.

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>>31362196
>need app for lobbies and voice chat
I can't wait to need to use my phone just to start up a trade or battle.

I'm suddenly very ok with GF continuing to relase pokemon games on the 3ds again

>>31363086
>tfw anybody that uses an older phone wont be able to use half the services they pay for

Preasu buya da newa androidu and iphonu thanku you

>Pokemon becomes pay to play online
>it's impossible to get trade evos now without paying
>gen VIII introduces a bunch of new trade evos
Hello darkness. Can't we just start a crowdfunding to support GF making their own console?

>>31363115
yes, that's also fucking retarded

>>31363130
add to that
>need to pay to get events

>Hello darkness. Can't we just start a crowdfunding to support GF making their own console?
Nope. And Pokémon isn't owned by Game Freak alone. It would be more likely to be made by TPC anyway, and I have a feeling that if TPC was completely independent from Nintendo and could do this kind of stuff, a console made by them would be even worse in this regard.

>>31363262
I didn't mean that last sentence seriously. But only Masuda or Ohmori can save us now by making the Switch Pokémon games free to play.

>>31362922
Yah but casuals won't pay for online with nintendo.

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>>31362827
>Switch being the new handeled
>Switch remplacing 3DS/N3DS

>>31363287
I think that won't happen. I mean, they probably thought about Pokémon as well when they made this choice. It's their most popular game that people play online.

>>31363292
I just hope you're right.

>>31361913

With how Nintendo handels his online services, this whole subscription will be nothing more like an attempt to drain money from their switch users especially from the competive people in their first game lines.

Also I don't give a shit about a free NES game a month because I'm not a nostalgia gamer. So that's wasted on me.

Also the pokébank as it currently is requires $5 a year. Just paying online to play battlespot, to use GTS and WT is way to much for most normal people and a waste of money + At the same time this encourages homebrew and pkhex even more if Homebrew manages to bypass the subscription costs Nintendo wants its switch users to pay.

When a mainline pokémon game will be on the switch I won't be suprised if showdown will become more popular than ever.

>>31363487
>I won't be suprised if showdown will become more popular than ever.
Enjoy your C&D'ed simulator

>>31363496
this
Also, I think most people will actually start saying stuff like "lol who cares im not poor anyway xD" and ignore the issue.

>>31361987
I mean sure that's nice that you want that, but that's why they're upgrading to paid online.

>>31363516
probably, but i still think GF will not go to the switch

back in the day
>buy gameboy for 100$, pokemon for 40$, link cable for 5$ and play with your buddies

nowadays
>buy 2DS for 100$, pokemon for 40$, play with your buddies

in the bright future ahead of us
>buy switch for 300$, pokemon for 40-60$, pay online fee for 30+$ a year and play with your buddies

Do you people see what's wrong with this? I'll tell you - it doesn't work this way.
There's no chance in hell Gamefreak will allow this system to work this way.

You faggots need to stop saying
>hurr people will move to showdown
There's literally no comparison between a shitty online simulator and playing on console. People won't move to showdown and if they do Nintendo can at any time shut it down.

>>31363530
what are you talking about they're clearly making it so you socialize in real life like back in the day :^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

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I guess this is the end of pokemon for me. I literally only have a 3ds for pokemon. I've tried other Nintendo titles and they are shit. Guess it's the end of an era.

>>31363246
please understand

>>31363541
>People won't move to showdown
This is true. even /vp/ doesn't care about showdown

>>31361939
Did you not remember when Sony started charging for online?

>>31363519
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>31363519
No, it isn't.

>Pay for online improve the server
o shit, this meme again no, i wont survive

>>31361949
>No doubt Nintendo Switch is the future, but we will have to wait for it to come out to the market and study in what way can Pokemon benefit from it. When people get it, we will have to analyze how people use it and then think about how to develop future Pokemon titles and how to take advantage of the new console
>http://nintendoeverything.com/game-freak-talks-pokemon-alola-forms-and-potential-return-series-future-more/
Stay in denial, a mainline Pokemon game will eventually come on Switch

>>31362285
Yeah, for one thing it would be great if Inafune died.

It'll filter out the kiddies and whiney poorfags
Based Nintendo

>Already have to pay for Pokebank
>Expect me to pay for online just to get BTFO by 13-14 year old Japanese hackers

no thankyou, I'll stick to showdown

>>31361939
Nintendo isn't a company I can respect after they filed a cease and desist order on AM2R after it was just released.

>>31362191
>Was "people of X nationality" ever a problem in Pokemon?
The only complain I have are japanese players who will DC after 1 turn if it doesn't go the way they wanted it. At least it happens to me all the time.

>paying to play pokemon
Just play the red, you'll be getting the same experience.

>>31364537
Yeah buy the next Wiiu

>>31362196
>most games
Maybe they'll leave Pokémon, Smash Bros, and Splatoon out of it but charge money for the literal who games

>>31361913
>poorfags, pirates and kiddies BTFO
>fuck up

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>>31362732
>CTRL F: Game Freak
>0 Results

>>31364648
enjoy your dead online after launch

They said "most" games will use the paid services, Masuda will probably make Pokemon free

>>31363541
Except there are already many people on sites like smogon who have moved to showdown and stopped buying games because they don't give a fuck about the RPG part. With a paid online I expect an even bigger migration.

>>31363682
Can't tell if serious or bait.

Why smogon is still not c&d anyway? Can't wait it to shut down after paid online for everything comes out

>>31364648
How does it BTFO the pirates? A CFW is still possible even with paid online.

And you clearly never played on Xbox or PS if you think paid online rids the games of stupid kids.

>>31361913
Pirates BTFO

I mean, even if the Switch gets rekt by hackers, you still will have to pay money to enjoy things.

They are learning from the 3DS and Wii U catastrophe.

Git gud.

>>31364838
And far less people will play on CFW online because it's a bannable offense and losing an account you spend money on will hit much harder than just getting banned

>>31364833
Competitive Pokemon will fucking die the moment they shut down Showdown and other online battle sims. Even VGCucks use it to test their shit quickly before the tourneys. And no one plays the garbage Battle Spot formats seriously.

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>>31364862
Oh wow, a retard on /vp/, who'd have guessed?

3DS's CFW is completely undetectable to the point you can pirate games straight from Nintendo's own servers and they can't do shit to prevent that from happening.

Anyway, this is how the piracy on Switch is likely to work:
>pirate all the games
>use the money saved to cover the online costs
Spoofing paid online accounts is unlikely, albeit not impossible given Nintendo's unwillingness to get on with the times.

>>31364908
>he thinks swith will have the same defense methods as 3ds
>calling anyone a retard

>>31364908
>they will repeat the same mistake again
>they will use the same online architecture

Who is the retard?

>>31362092
What is BR?

>>31361913
I hope subscription costs include Bank as an incentive if they are shifting pogemans to Switch.

>>31361913
there will be no mainline games on the switch

>>31363530
I had to look up whether the Game Boy was actually that cheap, but holy crap, it was.

Even when you adjust for inflation (which adds, what, 50% to the price?) it was still pretty cheap.

>>31362404
>there are games and apps that DON'T cost to play online

Yeah, the games without online

>>31364645
Pokémon is the only one that has a chance of not needing it. Smash and Splatoon will need to have paid online for sure.