>Corrosion would be useful for a tank. >Salazzle is a quick

>>31350255
Crobat should get Merciless.

>>31350255
Toxapex would be OP
Together with Salazzle could be OP

A smart choice from Game Freak, surprising considering the other shit they allow.

>>31350255
Not every Pokemon is 100% min-maxed for competitive viability. And that is a good thing.

>>31350272
Crobat should get retconned.

>>31350320
Are you serious? Why the hell shouldn't
every Pokemon be allowed to be viable? I know I'd love to be able to use my favorites like Malamar competitively instead of a small chunk of 60-ish Pokemon that gamefreak decided got to be useful

>>31350422
Because when everyone's viable, your favorite mon would still get shitstomped by something better/the obvious hard counter if it's good enough.

>>31350320
I bet your favourite Pokémon are the genies

is it sa-lazzle or sal-azzle?

>>31350320
it's not a good thing, because the few pokemon that are dominate everything and those that aren't fall behind due to power creep

making everything OP or have a strong niche use is a good balancing srategy, yet the only competitive game that does it is dota

>>31350436
It'll stand more of a chance of winning than if it's garbage and has to go against the Pokemon blessed with being good, though. There will always be better options, but why not slim down the insane margin by which a few Pokemon are better than the majority?

>>31350436
what is this retard logic? Everything has a counter anyway.

>>31350436
>it has a counter so it's shit

>>31350436
How would everything being viable be bad? Sure, it's impossible, but if it could happen, it would obviously be a good thing.

>>31350422
>>31350455
>>31350521
ITT: retards

>>31350590
Nice counterargument my dude

>>31350590
wow you really changed my opinion with that well-constructed argument

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>>31350608
>>31350621
>Replying to bait

I mean, come on people, it's not even GOOD bait.

>>31350608
>state that not all Pokemon need to be Genie-tier minmaxed
>retards misinterpret that as some sort of pro-Smogon propaganda and shitpost accordingly
>call out said retards

Whats the problem here?

>>31350422
Because Pokemon is and has always been a single player JRPG and the multiplayer aspect is a minor gimmick that caught on but is not the focus of the series.

>>31350660
see >>31350621

>>31350660
Did anyone say anything about smogon? We just think there's no reason they shouldn't be viable and so far you haven't given any sound reasoning as to why they shouldn't be, either.

>>31350590
Shit lad, ever taught of it like that

>>31350255
>What did they mean by this?
I would like to say balance, for once.
Imagine a thing that almost never dies and in top of that has a toxic that never misses because poison type AND can poison anything regardless of type, so even if it doesn't set toxic spikes up, which it still could if it sees an electric type somewhere, it can probably toxic more than half your team by itself.

Pair it with merciless salazzle with nasty plot, venoshock always doubling in power and criting, flamethrower always criting, etc.

Even then I would bet people would run regenerator in toxapex anyways.

>>31350422
This is stupid. One thing is asking for literally all pokemon being OU, which would be a clusterfuck, but there's literally no reason for a pokemon to exist just to be outclassed by literally everything else out there. Little things like adding a bit of speed, giving a certain move or ability (look at fucking pelipper now) can make shitmons into okaymons, and that should always be a good thing.

Is not about being countered by something better, it is about having at least a chance to begin with. What is team building for otherwise?

>>31350660
When the misinterpretation rate of your argument is 100%, maybe you're the retard who can't write, not the other way around

>>31350694
>but there's literally no reason for a pokemon to exist just to be outclassed by literally everything else out there

This is why people hate smogonfags.

>>31350694
When I quote >>31350422 I meant to quote >>31350436

>>31350691
Again, you're misrepresenting my argument. I'm not saying 'GF shouldn't buff your bro'. I'm saying that not every Pokemon needs an -ate ability, Water Bubble, Huge Power, or whatever the fuck flavor-of-the-meta ability just for the sake of 'being OU', and plenty of Pokemon do fine without an ability that perfectly accents their stat spread. So fuck off, retard, and learn to read.

>>31350718
That's the most out-of-context interpretation I've ever fucking heard. He's on the side that believes all Pokemon should stand a chance.

>>31350714
Or maybe this board is full of babies who'll overreact to anything outside of their own opinion?

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>>31350762
>say something dumb
>people call you out for being dumb
>"wtf guys you misunderstood haha you're underage I'm an adult btw"

>>31350753
But they do all stand a chance. Every pokemon is unique and sure, some are worse than others but they aren't all supposed to be "good' competitively. You put these standards in place that simply do not work. Not to mention that you're not even considering other formats like VGC where things like Pachirisu (which you probably think is a "shitmon") can shine.

>>31350776
Fine then, tell me why you think literally every Pokemon needs to be completely min-maxed for competitive viability, both stats and ability alike.

>>31350828
Because it would let other Pokemon exist besides the few broken, minmaxed ones currently in OU. Is it really that hard to grasp?

>>31350886
But if 100% of Pokemon are min-maxed, then you end up with a grey goo of a meta where every Pokemon is viable but none of them are unique. Is it really that hard to grasp?

>>31350947
Alright, fine. I see your point. I just wish they'd make all Pokemon somewhat viable in OU, not super crazy strong.

>>31351139
Thats why there is such thing as a metagame, anon. Having every Pokemon in OU is the same as having every Pokemon share the same handful of builds instead of having different tiers where other Pokemon can thrive competitively.

Would people run corrosion over regenerator?

>>31351257
when will this regenerator meme die

>>31351272
Regenerator is amazing, anon. It's one of the safest, most powerful abilities in the game. It's a shame they totally invalidated and ability as cool as Merciless by slapping it on Toxapex.

>>31351272
when regenerator stops giving literally free hp

>>31351291
>on something that already has access to recover

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>>31350718
Tripfag

>>31351299
Considering how a lot of the other Alolan Pokemon turned out, they really spoiled Toxapex

>>31350422
Because not everyone likes or cares about competitive, like?

>>31350461
What's the difference? It sounds like salamander

>>31350461
malasada

>>31351299
Most mons with regenerator have reliable recovery, anon. What's your point?

>>31351346
>I don't like competive so pokemon can br shitty
Kys

>>31350255
That combo would be broken as fuck

>>31350320
>Toxapex
>not min maxed as fuck

>>31350320
Now I don't understand why Karen exists.

>>31350521

More games need to balance like dota. Makes abilities feel like they carry weight to them, like two people fighting in dark souls with giant clubs, as opposed to people fighting with fucking feather dusters.

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>>31351976
>microtransaction """""cosmetic""""" cancer
>wanting this shit in pokemon
get the fuck off of this board

>>31350590
Elaborate please