lets talk about the first four trade evos >alakazam got a

>>31287714
he got Red Machamp.

Asura Machamp never
There IS an Asura Pokemon right? I feel like there is.

>we'll get no guard fissue machamp before 2018
>thinking he needs anything else
kekeroos

>>31287714
He got to be a Poke Ride :^)

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>>31287747

Yes.

>>31287755
This right here.

But not for you smogonfags of course.

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>>31287772

>>31287747
Arceus?

>>31287755
> he thinks Fissure Machamps will be accepted by bank

It's an illegal move on Machamp Anon. So bank will reject it. Did you honestly think GF didn't think about this?

>>31287813
>it's an illegal move on machamp
No, it's not, since Machamp can legitimately learn it.

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>>31287747
Yes, there is.

>>31287714
Non-manlet Machamp when?

Fighting/Ice Sinnoh Machamp will be in DP remakes.

Source:

>>31287835
Like Extreme Speed Dragonite?

>>31288808
Yes.

>>31288820
Whoops

>>31288808
Was meant for
>>31287813

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>>31287714
It's not a mega Machamp needs. At this point, he needs an overhaul of many things--HA, movepool, stat and move boosts. Mega means it competes for that limited slot, and an Alola forme means you take away the very essential aspect of Machamp by changing its typing.

I can't stand seeing the OG fighting type falling to RU while those ridiculous-looking """fighting""" types enjoy the higher tiers. Here's what I think our guy needs:

>HA
Steadfast is fucking garbage. This guy needs something like Defiant, Intimidate or Stamina (this one is pushing it but still). Anything to open a new niche. Guts is good now that burn is nerfed but Conkeldurr still takes this niche better. No Guard Dynamic Punch is indirectly nerfed by the confusion mechanic change.

>movepool
Physical version of Quiver Dance. This would again differentiate it from other slow bulky fighting types. Really in the age of megas, formes, powerful fairies and Z-moves, this is far from broken. Again, this opens a new niche for the guy. If Conkeldurr gets longevity via recovery, then let Machamp get its bulk from sheer defense.

Boost DP BP to 120. Lycanroc and Golurk are enroaching on this set. While Machamp is still the best user, his advantage is getting less and less significant in the big picture. At least emphasize his specialization in this combo by bumping up the damage output to Zap Canon levels. And that STAB will further differentiate his offense over the two.

>stat changes
GF has already shown they aren't afraid to move stats around. Machamp doesn't fucking need that 65 Sp Attack. Drop that down to 35 or even 45 and send that extra 20/30 points where they are needed (bulk). Machamp is lucky that despite coming from Gen 1, his stat distro is decent. But 5 generations after his last stat adjustment (Special stat split), even his stat distro shows glaring flaws compared to newer fighters.

At least two of these should at least make Machamp a bit more enticing to use in the meta.

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im fucking bumping this thread until i get some goddamn worthy discussion goddamnit

>>31289755
I feel the champ could benefit from a renamed Simple as a HA. Name it "Bulking" or something else LIFTAN related. Double dipping from Bulk Up would be amazing.

>>31289755
No, I still want 6 armed Machamp

>>31290360
memes aside, it sounds like a good idea. Would want that with the physical quiver dance so bad

let's see:

Machamp-New
HP:100(+10)
Attack:130
Defense:90(+10)
Sp.atk:65
Spdef:85
Speed:55
being realistic, based off other stat updates +20 seems to be the average

New HA: Stamina fits the best

Optimal sets:
Assvest/band with DynamicP, bulletpunch, knock off, stone edge

>>31287850
underrated

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Machamp got an entire mainline game dedicated to stroking his dick.

>>31287714
Machamp is perfect as it is

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>>31289755
>physical version of quiver dance
Not sure if I like this meme or not

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>>31290868
>facebook
>stupid ass opinion
why am I not surprised

>>31290769
is it bad that now I want Conkeldurr to also get +20 BST because I want to keep their rivalry dynamic?

>>31290931
what's not to like? it's not like fissure-tier triggering

>>31290886
not competitively, no

>>31291292
well lemme theorize stat upgrades for conk:

HP105
Att140
Defence:115(+20)cuz dem pillars
spatt55
spdef65
speed 45

everything else is good with conk

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>>31291418
holy shit pouring it out to defense would be how i would do it as well. you're a cool guy

They could have at least changed Strength to Fighting-type if they were going to pass it off as a signature move.

>>31287755
OHKO moves don't work with no guard.

>>31289755
>I can't stand seeing the OG fighting type falling to RU while those ridiculous-looking """fighting""" types enjoy the higher tiers.
What a bitch you are. But I do agree with your HA and movepool changes and physical Quiver Dance.

>>31291717
eat shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjfjIkpA-I

>>31291858
let me be salty. guy hasn't received a buff for 3 gens now. looking back the statement may have been unwarranted

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>>31287733
That doesn't count as a forme.

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>>31292333

>>31287755
>implying RBY pokes won't have hidden abilities

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>>31287772

>pokemon has 410 Base stats
>GF gives it a mega Evo instead of a third stage

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>>31292333
>weak to water, psychic, grass, ground, fighting, fairy

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>>31289755
>>31290466
>>31292333
>>31292777
checked