>Only one weakness >4 common resistances and 1 immunity

You're not. All hail our new Muk Overlord

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hello

>>31269411
I play ubers

What recovery does it have?

>>31269500
Maybe OP's complaining about Stockpile-Swallow for some reason even though that's awful recovery and waste of moveslots

>>31269500
Swallow.
:^)

alolan muk was one of the best things to happen to pokemon

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it begins

>>31269475
>le epin ugly genie face xd
R E M O V E
E
M
O
V
E

It has no recovery so its on a timer the moment it takes damage, but if it knocks off a few things and kills koko and lele with pursuit its done its job

>>31269537
I'll show you how to Swallow, sweet cheeks. ;^)

>>31269573
I wanted Salazzle as my resident poison pokemon on my first playthrough but A-Muk is too damn good to drop.

>>31269411
>no fairy resist in a post fairy world
ew
I'll stick to the OG and won't fall for the new toy meme

>>31269586
>Toxapex
>A-Muk
>M-Venasaur
>
>

>>31269586
Toxapex
Muk
UB-01
Venusaur

that's four, since Gengar, Nidoking, and Amoongus are UU and everything else is kind of shit

>>31269625
(You)

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>>31269411
>immunity to psychic

>>31269411
I saw its stats, are the same as regular Muk so an STAB Earthquake coming from Garchomp can OHKO.

>>31269626
Mega Beedrill after bank maybe

>>31269664
not an argument

>>31269411
what counters do knock off and shadow sneak destroy

>>31269625
>No STAB knock off
>No psychic immunity and the ability to deal with Top Lel

>switches in Garchomp
>switches out Muk
Whoa.

>>31269669
Immunity to Psychic as a Poison-type is an absolute god send. Poison/Dark is probably one of the best defensive type combinations ever, beating out Water/Fairy and Steel/Fairy

>>31269626
Don't forget Not-Lillie

>>31269720
>beating out Water/Fairy and Steel/Fairy
lol

>>31269643
>Gengar is UU
fuck

>>31269643
>>31269626
is there any poison type just begging for one or two move tutors to put it in OU?

>>31269720
and as a poison type, losing fairy resistance is shit

enjoy using A-Muk in PU by November

>>31269500
Gluttony Figy Berry. 50% instant recovery when it hits less than 50%. Although it's a one time heal, so it's more effective is doubled.

The guys' faces battling wolfe were hilarious.

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>>31269682
>mega beedrill
>anything but a meme

>>31269750
>ONE (1) weakness compared to 3 and 2 respectively

Keep in mind I said DEFENSIVE type combination.

>>31269790
Yes because Tapu Lele, the Tapu that is currently wrecking the most shit, just destroys A-Muk right?

>>31269770
Baton pass fixing could put Scolopede back on the map

Sazzle could just get amazing tutors to make it OU potential

Beedrill just needs it Mega stone in Tapu madness espically after Genesect gets the boot

>>31269770
no, but M-Beedrill doesn't exist yet. It might have a chance at OU if it's ever released

>>31269821
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 8 SpD Muk-Alola: 255-300 (61.5 - 72.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


Enjoy trying to switch in, bitchboy.

>>31269814
>145 speed
>150 base attack adaptability poison jab
>meme
>doesnt even need protect anymore

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>>31269830
these are the Gen 6 tutors. Let's assume that these are the ones that will return. Let's toss in Sucker Punch and Defog too, too, just for fun, since they were Gen 4 tutor/HM moves.

What do you see here that would make Salazzle OU?

>>31269882
>8 SpD

What in the fuck are you doing?

>>31269912
he's salty regular muk isn't as good as the new one

>>31269909
Earth Power would help its piss poor movepool desu senpai, not OU but it would help a lot

>>31269890
>those defenses
>assblasted by anything with priority
>rocks
>walled completely by steel types
>celesteela

>>31269912
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tapu Lele Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Muk-Alola: 184-217 (44.4 - 52.4%) -- 19.1% chance to 2HKO

Good luck, I guess.

>>31269690
A-Marowak. Bonemerang can usually OHKO A-Muk. If it misses, or Muk somehow survives, it kills with KO/SS.

>>31269946
It is buttfucked by Celesteel but it has Drill run for every other steel type

Also
>more bulk than Phermosia
>priority in this meta

>>31269882
Unless you're running full defense or HP for some retarded reason, Poison Jab +252 ATK Muk is a guaranteed OHKO on Lele. Gunk Shot is a guarenteed OHKO with both investments.

>>31269955
>19.1% chance to 2HKO
>19.1%
Again, I'm asking, what the fuck are you doing? Do you honestly think that proves anything? Did you also miss out on Gluttony + Figy Berry completely negating your calcs when A-Muk drops below half?

>>31269979
You're not switching in though.
You sure as hell aren't outspeeding, either.

A-Muk is a dumb meme, glad it's overhyped shit, and it'll end up just like Donphan and Ambipom.

>>31269809
75% berry is the only acceptable item for muk. Everything else is either shit or used exclusively used by singles fags.

Rate this Alolan Muk set on a scale of 1/10 for me, I'm having trouble deciding what the fuck to do since I want it to be offensive enough to slap shit down with coverage and have good bulk:

Alolan Muk @Figy Berry
EV's: 180 HP, 180 Attack, 48 Def, 100 Sp Def
IV's: Max
Adamant
Poison Touch

Knock Off
Gunk Shot
Curse
Rock Slide

Put Rock Slide in for more coverage but should I change it out for Shadow Sneak? Figured it wouldn't matter since I have knock off. Gave it Poison Touch to chip about at HP if it procs, and Curse to make it bulkier and hit harder. I pair it up with Bulu to lessen the EQ damage but yea that's about it. What can I change that doesn't deviate from this too much?

>>31269972

WHAT? How the fuck is A-Marowak a counter to A-Muk? You're sending in a Ghost type that's susceptible to being poisoned in against a Dark type Knock Off user that ALSO packs Shadow Sneak?

>>31269979
Give me the Tapu Lele killer set.

>>31269939

It's not its movepool, it's 4 move slot syndrome. It would need 5 slots: Nasty Plot, Fire, Poison, Earth Power, and HP Ice.

4MSS is devastating for fast frail special sweepers. I don't think it'll ever be good.

>>31270038

This reads like the same guy who for some desperate reason tried pushing the "Mega Altaria is bad" meme in ORAS.

>>31270169
Do you really need nasty plot though? Salazzle's already decently powerful and it's too frail to set up reliably.

Yeah, bait to hit with bonemerang. Maybe not a counter but its a weird check.

>>31270152
Adamant.
Max HP and Atk EVs and 4 SDef.
Figy Berry and Gluttony.
Gunk Shot, Poison Jab, Knock Off, and Shadow Sneak.

Handles most of the Tapus pretty well, depending on how they're built.

>>31269946
>those defenses
>assblasted by anything with priority
It's not supposed to be getting hit
>walled completely by steel types
Drill Run

Also Endeavor

>>31269669
right being immune to Tapu Lele strongest stab is fucking nothing

>>31270038
>You're not switching in though.
You're switching in to every move that's not specs moonblast (which it can switch in to anyway with AV,) which requires your opponent to predict the switch in and also run a rather sub-optimal lele set.

Muk is a very, very solid check to lele (and majority of psychics) no matter how hard you meme.

>>31269532
>>31269500
Z-Stockpile

>>31269625
Alolan Muk is an improvement in every way.

>>31269882
AV Muk is the only set worth running to check Lele

>>31270691
>>31270691
OG muk is better mongoloid. Does A-Muk resist fairy? No? Ok fuck off.

>>31270726
>passing up on poison touch stab knock off
>passing up on stab pursuit
>getting wrecked by lele and every other psychic
Okay anon

>>31270726
>Top Lel used Psychic!
>OG Muk disappeared from existence!

>>31270320

Yea, to OHKO shit like Magearna and Celesteela, also Lando and Chomp with HP Ice. 111 base SpA isn't what it used to be especially when you're constantly going up against Megas, pseudos, legendaries, Tapus, and UBs.

>>31270726
An immunity is way better than a resistance

>>31270726
Is old Muk immune to STAB, Terrain-boosted Psychic? Does old Muk have STAB Pursuit to deal huge damage to Lele? Does old Muk see any usage compared to Alola Muk? No? Feel free to suck my cock.

>>31269500

Gluttony Figy Berry

>>31270981
>to OHKO shit like Magearna and Celesteela
252/252+ celes has a chance to die after rocks and only AV Magearna can live a fire blast. HP Ice almost always KO's lando and chomp from full, too. I don't know what you're thinking, anon, 111 SpA isn't super impressive but it's still quite strong (not saying Salazzle is any good in OU btw, it's just not that weak is all.)

>>31269939
>>31271150
I can't see Salazzle getting Earth Power, it's a move that they very rarely give out to Fire types and Poison types alike (Magcargo and Torkoal are the only Fire types that get EP and aren't part Ground type and/or Legendary, as for Poison types only the Nidos get it). A move that she has more chances to get is Giga Drain(she already learns Leech Life). Of course it is nowhere near as good as Earth Power, but it would be something for those Gastrodons at least.

>>31270092
It's faster and can KO it with EQ/Bonemerang. A lot of Maro have speed EVs to outspeed Clefable/Chansey

>>31269946
>ass blasted by priority
>In my Lele meta
Beedrill-M is a Lele check. And a pretty decent one at that

>>31269411
Idk steel types that can use earthquake?

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Hi

Best A-Muk set for singles:

Muk-Alola @ Assault Vest
Ability: Poison Touch
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 172 Atk / 84 SpA
Brave Nature
- Knock Off
- Poison Jab
- Fire Blast
- Shadow Sneak

Handles all the tapus (beware of Volt Switch, though)
Covers steel switch-ins, 2HKOing most of them
50% chance to poison with Poison Jab
Priority with a chance of poison with SS

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>>31273275
>Shiny: Yes

>>31269698
It can still take one EQ from chomp. Muk rarely gets OHKO

>>31270078
Drop rock slide. You need shadow sneak since muk its very slow. I'd drop more EVs in defense. Almost all checks for muk are physical.

In what tier are Dialga, Palkia and Giratina?

>>31276722
Ubers

As someone who runs mono-Poison, this thing is a fucking godsend. It's literally one of the only things Poison has to stop Lele-chan and it does a fantastic job of doing so

>>31273275
Haven't played for a while but is bank open yet? for shadowsneak

>>31276873
No it's not open but you don't need it to pass shadow sneak on to it. You can use Mimikyu as the father

>>31276986
thanks senpai

How does A-Muk get Pursuit anyway?

>>31277091
Bank egg move

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Pretty simple, giga impact.

>>31270581
Muk can't use normalium Z though

>>31270092
A-Maro usually has a decent amount of Speed EVs to outrun wallmons like A-Muk and Clefable.

>>31273275
Does A-Muk even have the stats to do much with FB?

>>31279238
What a boring ass shiny.

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried Assault Vest A-Muk? Cause I have and it's a fucking monster against sp.atk pokemon.

>>31279363
Yes, to quad weaks at least

>>31279375
Only you and everyone else.

>>31279526
I've been mostly seeing Gluttony + Figy or Stockpile + Swallow. So I haven't seen any other build that's similar to mine.

Just have something set up and sweep it. Muk doesn't have much defense even with curse and only one weakness. It's kind of mushy.

>>31269698
>put in garchomp
>eq misses

>>31279702
It shouldn't miss unless evasion tactics were used

>>31269821
>ignores resistances and immunities
Ok

>>31279255
Why do you think this?

>>31272180

Unless it can safely switch into A-Muk, survive, and then threaten it with an OHKO, that doesn't matter, you're thinking of a check, not a counter.

>>31273469

>not having fun with it

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>People seriously think that OG!Muk is better than A-Muk

seriously?

>>31269411
>only one weakness
>how do you beat this fucking thing??
maybe exploit the weakness????????

>>31280570
>>People
Just one autist

>>31280595
Not to mention it's weak to one of the most common coverage moves in the entire game, if not THE most common coverage move.

That said, it is a fucking beast. This thing and Gastrodon are fucking savage and I love it. Single weakness tanks are the best, not to mention the immunities and resists. With Aurora Veil, these two are practically invincible.

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>>31269411
easy

>>31269411
you are crying for nothing, even Toxapex is most ridiculous than it.

Literally no difference from original Muk (OR EVEN WORSE), no one even uses psychic cuz it's shit but every1 uses fairy moves WHICH original Muk resists

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>>31280699
>no one even uses psychic

>>31280775

>No one uses psychic
>In Toxapex: The Meta

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>>31280699
>no one even uses psychic

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Just fought this Jap dude at doubles with me having a literally meme team I didnt tried to select but whatever

>he leads with Gengar and Whimsicott
>I lear with Staraptor and Muk
>MegaGengar + Protect and Protect
>his strategy was to use Encore with Whimsicott and then Disable with MegaGengar
>he manages to do this the next turn to my Staraptor but I land a Knock off on Gengar
>the next turn he tries to Encore my Muk, but because of the Prankster in Whimsicott this fails
>Shadow Sneak Gengar, faints, sent Skarmory
>withdraw Staraptor and sent Tortunator
>Tries to use Leech Seed on Muk, but then again, thanks to Prankster it fails, Poinson Fang Whimsicott, dies, Skarmory used Toxis on Tortunator and the guys resigns

I dont have a team planed for Muk but even in this mistake battle he carried the team

>>31281183
I didn't know about the Prankster nerf until just now. Nice.

>>31281411
Wonder if Whimsicott gains that much from Prankster. It's already stupidly fast. Also people wouldn't expect Infiltrator.