This is the list of drops from XY BL to SM RU: >alakazam >diggersby

>>31239395
>umbreon
everytime
I demand a new tier
something that doesn't ket this big of a shift happen

>>31239395
UU and RU are looking fun this gen. SM OU is honestly pretty ass, even compared to ORAS.
t.1600 in SM and ORAS OU

Get fucked shitnaughtfags.

>>31239503
At least we aren't Delphox.
and new toy syndrome

>Staraptor
Will it return to BL hell again this gen or will it finally find a tier to stay in?

>>31239525
>tfw Delphox is your bro
>tfw you were finally considering trying competitive this gen, after discovering a few other mons in RU that you liked
>tfw all these drops
Delphox is going to NU, isn't he?

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>>31239551
>he

>>31239551
>He

holy shit look at all the new guys in RU

This is going to be fun.

>>31239551
Chesnaught bro here, we walk the road together.

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>>31239584
>>31239611
Did I fucking stutter?

Some of those mons are still in UU like Diggersby and Staraptor. I'm interested to see how things go later down the road though.

>>31239546
Z Mirror Move

>>31239658

Yes you did

ribombee
mudsdale
shiinotic
palossand
bruxish
drampa
guzzlord

I feel like these will stay RU, not sure about the rest.

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It's okay, bro. Someday, GF will remember

>>31239792
Oh, well, carry on, then, I suppose.

But what's UU

It feels like all the Alola mons (bar legends and toxapex) were made for RU. Or at least last gen's RU.

>>31239924
http://www.smogon.com/stats/2016-12/gen7pokebankuualpha-1500.txt
Everything that is above 3.41 is UU.

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>>31239395
>Gyarados is RU
We thank you for 20 years of service oh great Atrocious one. Rest now, I pray that you find peace and I pray that we find a way out of this hell without you.

You forgot Suicune and Snorlax OP

>cresselia
>florges
>milotic
>chesnaught
>porygon2
>umbreon
>vaproeon
looks like ru is the new uu

And people thought Lurantis was PU...

However I highly doubt Lurantis could stay in RU.

>>31240557
All the PU and NU mons are RU right now, too.

>>31240557
The tiers are under construction anon. Smogon's building from OU and heading downwards.

Why? Absol jumped up a tier with a mega stone and now... they're back down at RU again. What the actual fuck. Why can't this poor soul be appreciated?

>>31240591
They took its moves, no access to knock off or superpower

>>31239651
How about we don't, faggot?

>>31240602
That reminds me, why DID they get rid of move tutor moves? Why not just make them tms?

>>31239395

>gumshoos
>RU

not for long.


>ALL Silvally types

Poor Silvally. IF only it had base 105 in every stat, or at least in speed and HP

>>31240673
Probably because gamefreak regrets stealth rock

>thundurus-therian
>tornadus

>RU

>>31240673
In every game since Gen 3, move tutors come in the third version and/or remakes.

>>31240699
I can sympathize, I'd regret something that basically gimps a huge portion of the character pool by including something that probably was just a conversation that started with "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if we tried something like this?"

>>31240739
No, I'm pretty sure the thought process was something like "hey, let's make a move like spikes, except it damages flying types more because they are immune to spikes"
Because spikes existed for two whole gens before SR.

Diggersby didn't drop OP.

>>31240063
>Water Heatran
>Barely made the cut off in UU

Power Creep is one hell of a drug.

>>31240063

>Lycanroc

APOLOGIZE

This is ridiculous, but new toy syndrome is definitely in effect.

>>31239395

DUDE, WALLBREAKERS, LMAO!

>>31240063
Just so you know, they're using 1630 stats for alpha. If you try to use Staraptor or Diggersby in RU Alpha you see they're banned.

http://www.smogon.com/stats/2016-12/gen7pokebankuualpha-1630.txt

>>31240602
Also despite this, I'm still going to get a kick out of fucking people up because they keep forgetting that mega absol has magic bounce and they basically end up either taunting or stealth rocking themselves.

>>31239395

Guzzlord... had a hard life.

>>31240903
It probably works even better now since you mega evolve on turn 1 so it will reflect their setter. (or they switch out and you get a free SD to start the game)

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>>31240847
Hes not too bad
Its basically a boot leg aerodactyl

>>31239395
>Mudsdale
What the fuck happened?

>>31240932
That's typically what I do, yes... basically if they don't realize i'm going to start with absol BEFORE the game starts, they're fucked.

>>31240950
No stealth rocks or slack off
If it gets slack off itll be just as good as hippo

>>31240979
It always books down to Speed, HP or Recovery for why a Pokemon is failing

>>31241002
Speed,hp,recovery and Coverage basically

>>31239785
>Double Dance Staraptor now exists
Muh dick

>Hydreigon is UU or OU
Fuck. Literally how in this Tapu, the meta? I want to use my bro in lower tiers.

>>31241149
Probably once they introduce pokemon with the terrain surge abilities other than said tapus. I mean they'll still be really high, just not unique.

>>31241181
Considering how GF gave the weather abilities to shitmons with 2 abilities this gen, I'd say our most likely candidades based on learning the terrain setting moves are.
>E Surge
E-Vire or the Mareep line
>P Surge
No one fits, maybe they retcon it into Beheeyem
>G Surge
Vileplume or Bellossom
>M Surge
Aromatisse, maybe Eternal Floette too.

Kind of surprised Ribombee is that low. Wasn't expecting great things, but it has some pretty nice stuff compared to some of the hard trash in RU. I want to say I'm surprised about Silvally as well, but that's just what you get for completely lacking in specialization and moves.

>>31241520
On second thought with Ribombee, I guess I was expecting UU based on the UUs of previous gens. With the power creep and so much good shit getting knocked down to UU, it's a lot less surprising that it can't compete.

>>31241536
It does have some problems. It struggles a lot with steel types and it doesn't have a move that basically guarantees it a Quiver Dance like Sleep Powder.

>>31239831
Komala

>>31241536
I mean, it seems like it's great for doubles at least?

>>31239831
i think drampa could reach bl2 or UU
his move pool is amazing has decent bulk and roost

>>31241536
I could see it getting more usage in OU than RU or PU since it's basically a lightspeed fairy type revenge killer and all the fast dragon/fighting/dark types hang out in OU/UU. In the lower tiers it doesn't really accomplish anything that any fairy type can't.

>>31241643
someone will find a niche for it
But baton pass being kill ruined its chances
shame its one point slower then weavile

>>31241675
Damn they really cucked ribombee there I didn't even realize that

>>31239395
>diggersby
huh, that one hasn't really changed too much, and i don't see anything new that specifically counters it

>>31239395
>celebi
this one's still way ou viable
balkiest cleric other than chansey and can also hit hard
>porygon2
wew
>tornadus
WEW

>>31239395
>>31239395
>Midnight form is ass

GET FUCKED

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>RU
>Still not Solarbeam

Sweet night prince