>slow >poor bulk >Physical stats but Contrary works

don't worry it'll get Superpower as a Dream World ability in the gen 5 remakes :^)

>contrary works off Special stats

It works with Physical ones, too. Just don't get any good moves that work with it Physically.

>>31214654
You know that the sad thing is that even with that Lurantis would be mediocre at best.

>>31214654
>you can't teach Spinda Superpower even though it gets it in DW
DW can go fuck itself. Like 95% of everything else was either an Egg Move or a Tutor Move.

Hey, at least it's not Grass/Bug type. Despite being an insect.

OP if you wanna play with pokemon whose designs you like competitive is not the game to be playing.

>>31214671
Well that's what I meant. that in Lurantis' case, it can only use Contrary off its Special stat even though it's the weaker offensive stat.

>>31214692
Except Lurantis isn't a bug at all. It's a plant.

>>31214635
Alright, what moves would you give it to help it out? No base stat changes or different abilities, just moves.

For starters I'd give her Hammer Arm.

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>>31214745
>Except Lurantis isn't a bug at all. It's a plant.

>>31214635
>There's a chance that Lurantis might not even be good enough for PU
Where did it all go so wrong?

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>>31214745
Look at this plant with its planty mandibles and its planty eyes and its sit plant legs with a plant exoskeleton covering plant organs and connecting its plant torso to its plant thorax and its plant head!

>>31214790
That's the point. Lurantis is the opposite of that, it's a living plant trying to look like a Bug.

>>31214790
Wait, does Lurantis even have a mouth?

>>31214757
Maybe something like a Grass/Fire/Fighting (any will do) version of First Impression. Maybe make it unique and call it Quick Draw.

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>>31214635
Its base speed makes zero sense. Why is it piss slow when has an agile body build? As much as I like Trick Room abusers I see little reason to use thing when it needs a free turn even have immediate nuking potential. Jesus Christ, GF fucked up badly.

>>31214764
>>31214790
Its pre-evo is literally "Faux mantis". Its an orchid cosplaying as a bug. A Sudowoodo repeat. It's eyes even work like plastic goggles than insect eyes.

>>31214635
>poor bulk
Rotom-W would disagree.

>>31214871
Lurantis isn't even that good in Trick Room.

The best I can see for Lurantis in maximizing it's stats that work, i.e it's attack, is an all-out attacker with Assault Vest hoping to grab Intimidate boosts thanks to contrary.

Even then, the best case scenario for it is RU. It'll likely be PU or NU though.

>>31214782
It's not just Lunantis. I think GF finally realize just broken Spd is and made sure any new iteration will have much slower Pokemon to curb off the power creep.

>>31214925
But that just means the new mons will be shit while OP mons remain OP.

>>31214925
The only way to curb the power/speed creep would be to nerf threats that already exist. These things are fixed with subtraction, not addition.

>>31214976
Well, they are, aren't they? Some Mega are currently being nerfed. I'm pretty sure the nerfs will be done in increments as to not cause competetive-fags to throw a hissy-fit.

>>31215033
>Some Mega are currently being nerfed
The only one I can think of that was a direct nerf was the Parental Bond nerf this generation. What else is there?

Answer me a things /vp/.

How much better would Lurantis be if it had Tinted Lens?

>>31215128
Well some got indirect nerfs (with some being buffed) by how Mega Evolution functions now, such as Sableye or Garchomp.

>>31214790
>>31214764

It's literally in the name: Fomantis = Faux Mantis

>>31214790
It's called a grasshopper for a reason.


>GRASShopper
>what is grass?

>>31215195

That's an Orchid Mantis.

>>31214790
It's game freak having a laugh, instead of making a orchid mantis, they made a mantis orchid

Hope it gets Super Power or Hammer Arm as a tutor in Prism, more so Hammer Arm because of the shit speed

>>31215249
it doesn't look like it can punch with those scythe hands

>probably outclassed by Servine

Shit, man.

>>31215255
True but I can hope, if not Hammer Arm at least Super Power

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>>31214635
>X used Screech!
>Lurantis' Defense rose sharply!
>X used Shadow Ball!
>Lurantis' Sp. Def. rose!
My Contrary Lurantis really appreciates these stat drops turning into stat increases in game and it's kinda hilarious so there's that.

>>31215331
>X used Swagger

rip

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>>31214790
Look at this rock with its rocky head and its rocky arms and its rock twigs extending from those rocky arms with their own little rocky leaves!

>>31214790
It's a plant pretending to be a mantis, as opposed to that mantis pretending to be a plant
You retard

>>31215139
It would be less walled, but 45 base speed really kills it. Its no Cactune when you can SD and priority spam, any nuclear attacker with a SE move would force it out.