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>counters fighting types better than psychic types as they

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>counters fighting types better than psychic types as they resist Knock Off. This kills the psychic.
>since you're using fairies instead of psychics to counter fighting types, bugs are no longer good partners for fighting types. Also, fairy resists bug. This kills the bug.
>dark type gained another weakness. Psychic types are no longer used to counter fighting types, which makes dark types less useful. This kills the dark.
>as a result, the classic VGC13 triangle of Latios > Conkeldurr > Tyranitar > Latios is ruined. Fairy shits over all of them. This kills the balance.
>ice types weren't really reliable counters to dragons, but thanks to STAB, they could guarantee the OHKO even with Yache Berry. But fairy does this more reliably and better now. This melts the ice.

How do we fix this mess? Is it even fixable at this point?
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>>31174265
It's easy.
>Make Bug and Grass immune to Fairy attacks
>and also make them hit fairy normally
>Make Dragon give normal damage to Fairy
Easy as pie!
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>>31174293
>Make Dragon give normal damage to Fairy
congratulations, you fucked up the one thing they were meant to do.
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>>31174293
Wait. Bug and Grass should still be resisted by Fairy.
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>>31174293
>normal damage
>not resisted
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>>31174307
Bug types should be super effective against fairy types. Ever seen a princess who looks at a bug and DOESN'T scream?
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>>31174305
Well then, scrap Dragon giving normal damage to Fairies.
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>>31174265
It's simple
>Make Bug and Grass resist Fairy attacks
>and also make them hit fairy normally
Easy as cake!
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>>31174265
steel version of knock off that's widely distributed and/or make fairy weak to rock

this kills the fairy
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>>31174349
Your idea is good, Magneton Man.
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>>31174329
Fairies are based on animals, bugs, natural phenomena...

No. That doesn't tick.
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>>31174329
>the most common depiction of fairies is a small girl with BUG WINGS
No. Though they shouldn't resist Bug either.
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Best solution is to just straight up remove Fairy typing.

It's absolutely disgusting.

JUST
BUFF
I C E

YOU FUCKING RETARDS

JUST. BUFF. ICE.
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Two simple changes.
>Ice now resists Fairy
>Bug is now neutral against Fairy

Doesn't completely balance everything, but it's the best you can do with just two changes. Change any more and you'll have autists whining about the type chart being butchered.
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>>31174992
this is good
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>>31174265
They did it by getting steel/poison in the game, that are also countered by fight/psychic respectively, what are you talking about?
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>>31174643
Ice exists only to provide moves for water types
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>>31174643
Ice is like, the anti-Dragon type. It's not the type that's such a problem, it's the pokemon it gets. It would be nice to get some resists, and having triple weaknesses shared with steel is a real problem when steel is the go-to defensive type, but it's mainly the lack of pokemon.
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Maybe make Ice SE against Fairy? dunno just brainstorming

Or make Psychic SE to Fairy.
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>>31175078
We have many ice types with good stats, Walrein, Lapras, Articuno, Cloyster. The problem is that all ice does is give them more weakness. If they had more resists, then they'd be good.

Not everyone can be (nor should be) offensive threats like Weavile and Mamoswine.
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Delete Fairy, make Ice resist Dragon and Water. Now defensive Ice mons have a reason to exist and Dragon is still weakened from its heyday in Gen V.
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>>31174265
>Fairies are killed easy by poison types like venusaur, gengar, toxapex. This brings up the poison.
>Psychic types more viable to deal with fairies poison problems. This brings up the psychic.
>dark types more necessary to pursuit trap the psychics to protect the poison. This brings up the dark.
>now new paradigms like the BuluTranApex core can thrive
>new triangles form like Clefable>Kommo-o>Heatran>Clefable
I can cherry pick too
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>>31175078
Ice's biggest problem is that most Water types can do anything an Ice type does better.
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>>31175962
>most many fairies have psychic coverage
>ACTUALLY thinking that Toxapex is strong because I of its poison typing with respect to fairy, and not just because water/poison has always been a great defensive type combo
Retard, without fairies Toxapex would still be good. The only thing that changes is the loss of BukuTranApex.
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>>31175962
>gengar
no
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>>31175962
>Psychic types more viable to deal with fairies poison problems. This brings up the psychic.
I think you mean ground.
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To be fair we now see Poison and Steel as legitimate attack coverage. After being neglected for years outside of STAB, seeing stuff like Garchomp carrying Poison Jab, Sludge Wave, Iron Head and Flash Cannon just shows they at least did something right for Poison and Steel. You can't just say they're shit offensive types and you're only bringing them for Fairies, the same could be said of Fire moves and how you're only bringing them for Steels.
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