>Pokemon evolves using a stone Why'd they do away with

what are you talking about

they made a new one though?

There were a couple last generation for various stones, and this generation added a new stone entirely with two evolutions to go with it.

but they didn"t.

>>31172208
It's kind of dumb that it's only used for alolan vulpix though. Could have been used for new ice types, or heck even make crabominable available earlier and make it semi-useful during the main game.

>>31172197
>pokemon evolve with stones
>eevee does not evolve into leafeon with leaf stone
>eevee does not evolve into glaceon with ice stone
explain this bullshit

>>31172232
Autismo who would complain that they couldn't get Leafeon in Gen 1

>>31172229
and Sandshrew

>>31172232
it would "break continuity"
as in, if Eevee evolved with a Leaf Stone, why couldn't you do it in Gen I?

>>31172232
Leaf Stone predated Leafeon so they cover their ass as to why the Leaf Stone didn't work on Eevee originally. Glaceon predates the Ice Stone. Same reason that any baby Pokemon introduced after gen 2 for a Pokemon that was existed beforehand requires an Incense to breed. Had to explain why Snorlaxes in the daycare weren't popping out Munchlax: you didn't have the right item in that game.

The entire breeding system needs to be retconned and retooled.

>>31172240
See:
>>31172251
>>31172270

>>31172197
I'd prefer new items like stones as opposed to trade-only evolutions.

>stone evolutions rarely used
>aside from sylveon, cross gen relatives haven't happened in a decade
>no baby pokemon since gen 4

why is gamefreak so lame

>>31172251
>Friendship didn't exist in gen 1
>Red was literally antisocial

>>31172251
Like they did with Clefable and Wigglytuff and Fairy-types right?

Oh, wait...

>>31172251
Gen 2 Rollout Likitongue would like to have a word with you.

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>>31172349
>Fairy types only exist in the mega universe

>>31172240
>>31172251
>>31172270
But the gen 4 evos that evolved by knowing a certain move by level up could have known those moves while in gen 3.

These are flimsy arguments, though I agree with >>31172270 the shit just needs retconned. Just make Eevee evolve with the right stones for God's sake.

>>31172338
Baby pokemon are pointless unless it's giving strong late game pokemon a pre-evolution that you can catch early in game.
But yeah, cross-gen evos like Dunsparce need to happen.

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Some stone evolved Pokemon are locked from relearning the moves of their pre-evolutions

>>31172339
day/night also didn't exist in gen 1.
>>31172338
eviolite killed any chance of cross-gen evolutions. pre-evos you could probably get away with, but something originally intended to be fully-evolved suddenly getting a 50% boost to defense and special defense (porygon2, chansey, dusclops, tangela, rhydon) makes it ridiculous.
>>31172270
interestingly enough, Lickitung could learn Rollout in gen2 by TM, meaning lickilicky should technically be available in those games.

>>31172371
>oh, the stones evolve these mons this way because it only occurs in the mega universe

>>31172338
>cross gen relatives
wat

>>31172270
Ice stone should evolve the Glaceon
Lefeaon should be evolved by Luminous Moss

>>31172372
None of them could learn those moves naturally though, which they probably figure is enough. Piloswine could only learn Ancient Power through breeding, Aipom couldn't learn Double Hit because it's a gen 4 move, Tangela and Yanma couldn't learn Ancient Power at all. Lickitung could learn Rollout via TM a while prior, but that still isn't its default learnset.

>>31172229
They should've tossed the rock thing with Glaceon and Leafeon and made Glaceon evolve with an Ice stone and made Leafeon evolve with a Leaf Stone.

Ampharos and Vikavolt should be Thunder Stone evos at the very least

Hell, we could do away with the stupid as fuck item trade evo and make Electivire and Magmortar evolve with stones too

Stones are really cool but underused. Thunder Stone has like three entire families that evolve with it, what gives?

>Normal Exeggutor evolves via leaf stone, normal
>Alolan exeggutor is said to have grown stronger due to strong sun rays
>In the next games you can get an alolan exeggutor via sun stone
>Alolan Persian and Muk via Dusk Stone

Not gonna happen, but would be cool

>>31174241
>Alolan Persian and Muk via Dusk Stone
Problem there is they both have Alolan base forms as well. Probably just not have them natively or have some sort of Trophy Park type thing for them at best.

The other complication is that Alolan base forms are always produced by any parents in any forms unless an everstone is used for the non-Alolan parents in SM. Those without an Alolan base form will also always evolve into their Alolan evolved forms in SM, regardless of what game they originated in (according to the hackers). This implies a certain design philosophy on Game Freaks end, which is that the forms are tied to the game they are produced in, and therefore the region. In a way similar to Vivillion forms, though those are tied to what region your 3DS was set to when you began the game.

Who knows how they'll handled Alolan forms in future games, given all that?

>>31172232
It needs to be retconned. Eevee should keep its friendship and affection evolutions though. Since those seem much more "natural" for our favorite fox.

>>31174593

Sun Stone - Eevee
Dusk Stone - Umbreon

Then Sylveon evolves with Happiness.

>>31172232

Dont know why people still dont get that each eeveelution exists to show off a new evolution technique or game feature. Gen 1 had the stones, Esp/Umbreon showed off the day/night cycles and friendship, Leaf/Glaceon showed off location-based evolutions, and Sylveon showed off Amie and the Fairy type.

Leafeon and Glaceon evolve the way they do because their advertising a certain feature, not because it would ruin continuity or some bs.

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>>31174629
>Sun Stone - Eevee

>>31174739
Then explain why you couldn't evolve them in HGSS hmm?

>>31174794

GameFreak is autistic sometimes.

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>>31174739
>each eeveelution exists to show off a new evolution technique or game feature
>no new pokemon evolves using that feature
Th-thanks, Game Freak

>>31174629
Moon Stone exists.

>>31172338
>he wants more babies

literally why, they're the definition of dex filler

>>31172229
There are more games to come though.......

>>31172394
>eviolite killed any chance of cross-gen evolutions.
Are you saying Eviolite Farfetched and Dunsparce would be broken? If UBs, Mega Salami and Fug are allowed, then i don't see what the problem is

>>31174794
so you're forced to trade
same reason you couldn't evolve eevee into espeon/umbreon in frlg

>>31174739
So since Dragon is technically the final special-type remaining for Eevee to evolve into, could it be possible to predict whatever new mechanic Gen 8 is going to introduce? Assuming we get the final Eeveelution next gen

>>31175606
Fusions? Evolving a mammal into something reptilian, which is unnatural obviously, but anything goes in Pokemon universe.

>>31174386
My opinion is the strange souvenir will allow you to get A forms via breeding or evolution

Eg Grimer with strange souvenir gets a A-Grimer egg when bred

>>31175631
Sounds reasonable enough.