>excessive cutscenes and interruptions >story has nothing

>>31156060
Why is linearity bad in a story based game

i didnt read any of that but i liked the effort.

>>31156078
Kill yourself

>>31156078
Are you the evolving luvdic fag?

There's too many tripfags now

>>31156104
i agree.
they should leave.

>>31156071
cyoas are the tits dude

Half of these arguments are just straight out nitpicking

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>>31156060
>SM covers thread

>>31156060
>regional variants
>stuff evolves different here, it's so tropical
>most famous evolution pokemon is eevee
>no new tropical eeveelution

how can this be right?

>customization is worse than in XY
>worse than XY
So you genuinely preferred XY's customization?

>>31156071
Because the story is bad and linearity kills what made the series popular in the first place.

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>it's a SM boxes episode
>the rerun
When will this meme die? The thread now only needs that one retard calling everyone out for being shills.

>>31156135
It was really better. In SM we have too many recolors and the hair styles looks bad. I mean, what's the deal with that short fringe?

>>31156147
>I'm butthurt over people criticizing my favorite game

>>31156138
The thing that made the series popular was having a bunch of Pokémon

Not becoming champion

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>>31156156
>projecting
I even agree with a lot of these points, these threads have to stop though -- not because its criticizing SM, but rather because we have one every day, and it's made by the same retard.

>>31156060
>Extreme lag during Totem and Multi Battles
This really triggers me
Why did they make them for 3ds if it's gonna lag?

>>31156173
It was collecting, training and battling.

The forced """"story""""" and linearity takes the focus away from that.

>excessive cutscenes and interruptions
Wasn't that bad
>story has nothing to do with the player or pokemon
Except it did
>trials are a downgrade from gyms
Refreshing change, way better than get in gym and walk straight lol xd
>even more linear than Kalos and Unova
Non linear pokemon are stupid because of over/underleveling
>new pokemon are rarer than Kanto pokemon
I agree with this
>Z-moves are OP and broken
They are not
>Tapu auto terrain cancer
That's an ability
>Tapus, Necrozma and UBs don't even have their own dungeons
Tapus had their own dungeons and UBs being in random places made sense lore wise
>Type: Null is literally handed to you for free by Gladion
Like many other in pokemon games
>customization is worse than in XY
Its really not
>extreme lag during Totem and Multi Battles
Nice ds
>can't use d-pad to walk, still have to hold b to run
Why do you need auto running
>no more infinite loop for hatching, have to hold b with Tauros and spin around like a retard, can't use d-pad
Just inject lol
>super training gone
SOS battles are even better for shitty ds like yours
>PSS gone, replaced by a shitty, grindy Festival Plaza
Tru
>Blissey bases and restaurants gone, grinding to 100 is almost as bad as in BW
Just inject lol
>hard to grind for money
Why do you need money
>move relearner at the end of the fucking game, pokemon like Marowak are forced to go without ghost STAB
Use good pokemon
>Battle Tree is literally just the battle facility, not even a city to host it
Muh battle frontier
>Rotations and Triples gone, battle facility went from 5 modes to 3
Those were meme gimmicks anyway
>Battle Chateau gone, no way to rematch important characters
Battle tree
>Ice Stone for Sandslash and ninetales, as if we didn't have enough useless stones
Are you really that mad over a few bits

>>31156229
>two things that have absolutely no bearing on the other three take the focus away from them
Mmmh mmh.
Also less in Kanto, but not being linear or at least AS linear as Kanto made GSC an inherently worse game.
>gym leader 7's ace is level 31

>>31156060
>>super training gone
Replaced by the vastly superior Isle Evelup

>>customization is worse than in XY
... how?

>Z-moves are OP and broken
Theyre basically a guaranteed critical that deals a tiny bit of damage even if the target uses Protect. They dont even bypass type immunities.

>trials are a downgrade from gyms
The dragon trial aside.... no, they literally aren't. Exploring the world and encountering strange wild Pokemon, then being greeted by the super-charged boss monster and Friend and getting your shit stomped is so much better than "HURR DURR BATTLE ME AND 7 SKIPPABLE RETARDS FOR A BADGE!!!! xD"

The biggest advantage besides immersion in Trials, is the biggest problem ive always had with gyms.
Gyms let you leave. You can walk out and heal up as often as you like. If any one trainer or part of the puzzle is easy, the entire gym is pointless because the "challenge" doesnt wear you down. There's no sense of attrition.

>>31156301
You can't leave from Viola's gym in XY right? At least I couldn't, maybe I'm just retarded. Anyway, I entered underleveled to beat the retards and then heal, but since I couldn't leave, my team suffered some damage on top of being kinda underleveled, so Viola almost raped me, I won thanks to my last shitmon delivering the final blow. It was pretty satisfaying I gotta say.

>>31156409
Yeah, you can leave it.

>>31156280
>Johto's 7th gym leader
>counting Pryce as 7th with that non-linearity between Morty and Clair

>>31156445
Yes, exactly what i was talking about.

>>31156071
because it's pokemon

>>31156445
Wow it's almost like non linearity is a bad thing

>>31156489
You implying pokemon is some kind of sandbox game. And dont pull that shit where in gen 1 you could go anywhere

>>31156301
>and getting your shit stomped
wait, wat. By the totems? Are you playing a nuzlocke? This shit has been so easy it's criminal.

>>31156060
Team Skull was shit.

>>31156243
>>excessive cutscenes and interruptions
>Wasn't that bad
>hey go outside of aeher foundation
>lillie cutscene
>hey go take the boat
>lillie cutscene
>get out of the boat at the sea city
>lillie cutscene
>middle of the sea city
>lillie cutscene
>get out of sea city
>lillie cutscene

>>31156566
Have you not seen people talking about totem Lurantis when it first came out out?

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>>31156577
>go from cutscene to cutscene
>what the fuck why are there so many cutscenes

>>31156489
>change is bad

>>31156596
>said cutscenes are literally 10 steps apart and blocks you from the next route
>better fly to some place I have nothing to do anymore!

>>31156620
It is when it's a bad change.

>>31156596
The cutscenes are like one step apart lol

>>31156559
>and don't pull that shit where in gen 1 you could go anywhere

well you did it for me it so thanks i guess

>>31156551

There was a thing Hal invented for Gym Leaders back in 1999 where their team's levels were a preset value, or the value of the highest levelled mon on your team, whichever is higher. gamefreak's just so retarded that 13 years later they still haven't caught on.

>>31156071
>>31156078
>>31156108
>>31156112
>>31156114
>>31156117
>>31156135
>>31156147
>>31156173
>>31156196
>>31156243
>>31156301
>>31156596
Shill shill shillan

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>>31156647

>>31156596
>go from area to area
>what the fuck why are there so many cutscenes
ftfy

>>31156720
(You)

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>>31156703
WHY YES, ANON, I AM A GOOD GOY. DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS?

>>31156701
That's just retarded to do though anon

>decide to watch game grumps for the first time in maybe a year for sun and moon, i don't give a shit about spoilers since I already saw the pokemon list anyways and I don't have a 3DS right now either

>even without all of arin's bullshitting and pausing to do shit, it still took like a full fucking hour before the adventure actually took off, it was a god damn hour of intro and backstory

fuck me, shit is gay as fuck

>>31156770
>Level scaling in order to prevent future grinding is bad

>>31156779
Except no, in an hour you can complete Illma's trial.

>>31156795
That just encourages no sense of progression and avoiding every trainer to quickly get to the top of the game

>only in the first 30 or so minutes, after that they're infrequent but welcome
>good, your story is now becoming the champ again, not becoming some legendary hero
>trials are just gyms reskinned- they have both required and skippable battles
>eh, fair enough, but there are some side areas you can explore
>yeah this is stupid
>actually they're kind of shit
>Can't speak to competitive play
>UBs aren't really legendary, but fair enough on the others
>How else would you do it? Wouldn't make sense to have to fight it, it's an artificial Pokemon
>True
>Inevitable on 3DS hardware
>why would you want to move slower in the first place?
>I don't recall there being an infinite loop in XY- you had to go back and forth, not all around; besides, you can now hatch eggs on one of the islands
>... do people really miss this?
>fair enough
>Secret bases were never going to leave Hoenn, fair on restaurants though, especially as they have actual restaurants
>Munchlax used Happy Hour!
>This is more a minor quibble but it definitely cheeses my grits too
>Cool ass giant tree > arbitrary city
>Did anyone actually use rotation or triple battles? I always hated them
>Now THIS is fucking stupid, what were Gamefreak up to? I WANNA FIGHT ILIMA AGAIN DAMMIT
>How would you accomplish catching Sandshrew and Vulpix in a midgame area if they evolved via level up? Stone Evo > trade evo > area evo

>>31156566

>Totem Lurantis
>Totem Wishiwashi
>Kahuna Nanu's FUCKING Persian

>>31156060
>tapus an UBs don't have their own dungeons
Stopped reading there.
>What are ruins
>What is Resolution Cave
0/10, nice try OP.

>>31156779
Nah famalam he blacked out to a wild Gumshoos (the pre evo I'm shit at names)

When he had a full health starter because he refused to use stab

>>31156812

>I can't read.

>>31156812
The gym leaders would have set levels that vary depending on what order you fight them in. I didn't mean level scaling like FFVIII, that's annoying.

>>31156576

that's the point fagnuts. they were patsies for the Aether Foundation.

>>31156060
Linearity and being story-driven are not inherent flaws. Evey other complaint is mostly small (albeit true) nitpicking, and some of them aren't even true (you can rematch people at the battle tree).

Perfect description of gameplay
>Walk 5 steps
>Cutscene
>Repeat

They actually made a children's game this time, but instead of teaching the player it pulls them along

>>31156851
>>31156858
Well shit I can't read

Ignore me

>>31156094
>>31156104
>>31156703

you all need to stop replying to tripfags. holy shit, why are you guys so stupid?

>>31156910
>why are you gguys so stupid?
Newshits.

>>31156871
>Linearity and being story-driven are not inherent flaws.
It is when the story is bad and relies on you liking a character.

Funny how people shat all over FFXIII for this shit but when it's Pokemon, it's ok.

>>31156862
>It's meant to be bad!

>>31156060
>Z-moves are OP and broken
It's really the opposite, they're kind of shit
Name 10 pokemon that actually prefer them to other, better items. I'll even give you Porygon-Z to start with.

Hint: You can't

In defense of Gen 7, however, you don't really need money in this game. I used PokePelago for EV training, which replaces the need for Vitamins, which have always been the main reason to grind for dosh. The only other significant money sinks in this or past gens are Clothes and the Resort Ribbon, but you have more than enough opportunities to get money to get all the clothes in the game.

>>31156566
So...
You never actually played the game. Got it.

>>31157131
>Totem Raticate
>Brick Break TM avaliable right before the match
>Totem Wishiwashi
>Scald TM avaliable right before the match
>Totem Salazzle
>use that Scald TM lol
>Totem Lurantis
>Trumbeak was literally everywhere in the game and you just got Z-Fire. If not enough, Castform will fucking set up sun for you
>Totem Mimikyu
>the only remotely challenging, still really depends on if the Haunter will spam Hypnosis or not

They're not hard.

>>31156135
In SM, all the boys get are trilbies and caps, sunglasses and glasses, tank tops, short-sleeved t-shirts and collared short-sleeve shirts that are just retextured t-shirts, and shorts. Disregarding the several kinds of bags and retextured shoes, do you really think that's better than sunglasses, feathers and buttons, beanies, caps and fedoras, jackets, hoodies, t-shirts, long-sleeved collared shirts that aren't just retextures and zipper jackets, boots and regular shoes, and short and long pants?

>>31157097
>Name 10 pokemon that actually prefer them to other, better items. I'll even give you Porygon-Z to start with.

Garchomp, Gigalith, Tapu Lele, Krookodile, Araquanid, Mimikyu, Salamence, Torkoal, Golduck

Here you go.

>>31157192
>Garchomp, Gigalith, Tapu Lele, Krookodile, Araquanid, Mimikyu, Salamence, Torkoal, Golduck
>listing a bunch of random pokemon without including the Z-move that makes them worth using

why would you do this?

also why would Mimikyu want Z-Splash when SD+LO hits harder? I assume Araquanid is Liquidation Hydro Vortex and Salamence is Fly Supersonic Skystrike but I've no idea where you're going with the rest

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>>31157192
>Z-Splash meme

>>31157245
Z Shadow Claw you idiot.

Ghost types lacks a strong physical STAB. Z Ghost guarantees the OHKO on Pokemon such as Marowak.

>>31157283
>Z Shadow Claw
For fuck's sake it's called Never-Ending Nightmare

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>>31156196
>it's made by the same retard

You have no proof.

>>31156196

>but rather because we have one every day

And?! Is there some rule I don't know about concerning this? If it really bugs you that much then just fuck off to some other board. You don't get to order people around and tell them what they can or can't post or complain about. Who do you think you are? Moot?!

This is the Pokemon board where people discuss aspects of the Pokemon series whether they be positive or negative. I hope you don't act like this offline when someone does something or talks about something you don't like.

>>31156060
>get pokerus
>don't know jack shit about it besides that it's good
>put one of my party members with pokerus in a box and go the fuck to sleep
>wake up the next day to see that all my party members that had pokerus lost it and only the one in the box kept it
>get a bunch of shitty box fillers and spread the pokerus to all of them
>After spreading it to 9 Pokémon realize how tedious and obnoxious it is

Fuck this boring shit. I'm not even sure if it's good or rare, desu. Probably gonna go and wondertrade all of the shitty pokerus Pokémon in a few minutes.

>>31156060
>Z-moves are OP and broken
>Tapu auto terrain cancer
what does it feel like being bad at a children's game made for actual babies OP?

>>31157366
Z (move being buffed) is a better form as it makes clear which move's BP is being used.

That's like complaining about people calling Balrog or Bison as "Boxer" or "Dictator" to avoid confusion.

>>31156816
>not becoming some legendary hero

Only Black/White was close to that.

>>31156871
>Linearity and being story-driven are not inherent flaws

Just because it's not an inherent flaw doesn't mean it isn't allowed to be considered bad.

>>31157437
>criticizing poor game design means you're bad
I'd say the opposite, anon. I bet you're the kind that loves this shit as it takes little skill to use effectively.

Tell us how much you like to deal damage through Protect. I'm sure it's a godsend for players with poor prediction skills.

>>31156816
>How would you accomplish catching Sandshrew and Vulpix in a midgame area if they evolved via level up?
Look up on Hoenn's Victory Road.

>>31157489
>Tell us how much you like to deal damage through Protect
If you're talking about VGC I have zero experience with that, at least in singles they're an interesting and well balanced addition to the game. Far better implemented than Megas.

>>31156577
>take 10 steps north
>lillie cutscene

>>31157165
>lol everything learns every move
>lol everything happens the same with everyone
Stop.

>>31156580

Stop this fucking meme
Lurantis was some of the freest shit I ever fought, and I was a poppliofag

Only thing that came close to a challenge was Uber-Stats-Besides-HP Wishiwashi

>>31157421
Hi OP.

>>31157975
>the very first wild pokemon learns Brick Break
>Psyduck is everywhere in the second trial, Owlfags and trannies are still at advantage
>said first wild pokemon evolved into Trumbeak
>it's hard because I didn't catch or trained any pokemon besides fire cat

>>31158022
I'm not even the OP. Try again.

>>31158056
>the first wild Pokémon learns brick break
?
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Yungoos_(Pok%C3%A9mon)

>>31158056
Have you thought about the fact that maybe i don't want to use a fucking Pikipek or a fucking Psyduck?
Again
>lol everything happens the same with everyone
I only had Litten, Grubbin and Yungoos by that point, none of which could learn Brick Break. Not mentioning i was playing Sun so no x4 weakness.

You know who's an easy trainer to beat? Cynthia. Palkia just wrecks her.

>>31158133
Sure thing OP. There was no reason for anyone other than OP to defend such a post so vehemently.

>>31158220
>i don't want to use a fucking Pikipek or a fucking Psyduck?
>I don't want to use what the game literally shoves on my face so it's hard

>>31158275
>being forced to use Pokemon i don't want to use
That's fucking retarded.

>>31158297
If you only want to use shit then you can't argue against the people who say that the game's easy.

We're not even talking about level 9 Salamences here, only common route shitmons.

>>31156060
>tapus dont have their own dungeons
no lies pls

>>31158275
>Use the pokemon I told you to use otherwise I can't prove the game is bad

>>31156060
oh look its this thread again

>>31156620
Change for the sake of change is bad, yes.
Just like forced diversity.

>>31156243
Basically this.

>>31158436
>Just like forced diversity.
Agree. All those whiteys on SM really ruined the atmosphere.

>>31158335
You mean "overgrinded shitmons"? Because Pikipek can't deal properly with the faster, double attacking Raticate unless it's level 15 or straight up evolved where either aren't possible for that point of the game unless you grinded.

And not only that, but for Wishiwashi i actually have to find out a specific Psyduck with Cloud Nine instead of a random Psyduck with Damp i could find first, and forced to waste turns to manage to Disable Water Gun instead of any other move.

Like people arguing that fifth gen is hard. A common shitmon like Scraggy shits on the whole game without any effort.

>>31158436
Well change for diversity is bullshit because it doesn't realistically add to the game like fucking Tracer or the skin color of Team mates

Re coloring a model is not the type of change I'm describing

>>31158492
>i actually have to find out a specific Psyduck with Cloud Nine
>instead of using it to boost your own Scald

Sounds like you're just bad at pokemon.

100 replies, we did it /vp/

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>>31158570
Good idea!


...except for the fact that a same level as totem Psyduck has to land five hits with Scald on the fish to kill it, which only need three to down Psyduck. Assuming Alomomola isn't out to Hand it either.

Looks like the one bad at Pokemon is actually someone else. I'm not the one making up random crap to favor my argument.

>>31158686
did a lot of people actually have trouble against that totem boss? I had the fire starter and beat it without any grinding at all

I had a magnamite and that's about it. Nothing else with even a non stab move good against water

>>31156060
I'm surprised you didn't even delve into the cancer that is trying to catch wild pokemon. If you're trying to catch wild pokemon you need to lower their HP down into/near the red in two hits and you need to put them to sleep or else they'll call for backup and turn it into a shitty rng grindfest, Even if you beat the backup they'll instantly call for more backup. I feel like this could've been avoided by making it so that backup can only be called twice to a battle before they're shit outta luck. Also running away from battles is pure cancer, because 90% of the time it'll fail and instead of letting you fight it'll consider you trying to run as a move and will proceed to let everyone wail on your ass. Only way to get a smoke ball is a 5% drop rate from Salandit (10% if you have a butterfree with compound eyes, which is retarded).

Also sonic boom (always does 20 damage) and dragon rage (always does 40 damage) are fucking broken in totem fights, almost as broken as curse.

>>31159103
Yeah, during the story I got the habit of simply using Sing and start throwing balls until it sticks to avoid starting an annoying SOS chain.

Catching Magby was the most retarded thing I've ever had to endure.

>Fire Spin
>call for help
>Smokescreen spam
>keep losing a fixed amount of HP every turn
>at one point can't even hit them, forcing me to wait on Fire Spin to switch out
>on the rare occasion that it doesn't calls for help, it refuses to stay in the ball
>waste a huge amount of healing items for a fucking Magby

>>31156060
>>Blissey bases and restaurants gone, grinding to 100 is almost as bad as in BW
At least BW had Audino piñata, here you have nothing like that

>>31159103
> it'll consider you trying to run as a move and will proceed to let everyone wail on your ass.

oh you mean just like in gens 1-6?

>it's a cover image thread episode
dogshit thread

I'm so happy that I got to play the leaked Moon version before the official release.
Saved me a little money and kept me from supporting these shitty Game Freak and Nintendo decisions.
I know that SM are a commercial success, but I can proudly say that this was not my fault.

I actually liked XY and ORAS. I've spend more than a healthy of amount of my time playing my physical X and OR cartridges (not recently).
I also would have bought, played and supported Moon if the leaked version had not killed every bit of hype I had before the release. Fuck. That. Shit. Fuck. Those. Games.

Money was never the issue. Not wanting to support "shitty, unfinished, one step forward, two steps back" games, was. I voted with my wallet that I do not like the direction this franchise is heading and I'm still glad I didn't waste those ~40 bucks.
If the next games are more of this trash, then I guess that I'm finally getting too old for this shit.
At least SM ensured that I won't buy a Pokémon game on release day ever again
...and I have been a fan of this franchise since I was ~8 years old when RB came out in Europe.

Fuck SM. Fuck them and everything they stand for. Just thinking about replaying SM makes me literally cringe.

>>31159097
Nearly got wiped by it and I used Litten too. Only thing I had that could deal super effective damage was a Kadabra with charge beam

>>31159625
I guess, i never really noticed it before because unlike gens 1-6 it seems to happen way more often and chances are you'll get wrecked because there will be two bullshit pokemon that'll rip your asshole in half. Also for all the pixel games i would spam repels and for X/Y it was so easy i never felt like running. Didn't play ORAS.

>>31159630
this d.esu, next time start by posting some cropped porn OP and then we can talk

>>31156135
Yes.

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>>31156060
>Z-moves are OP and broken

>>31156060
Agreed only good things imo
>way better and true to scale overworld
>nice poke ball animation (when the Pokemon comes out)
>since I'm an old fag I enjoyed having lots of kanto Pokemon. My starter was my only gen VII Pokemon.

>>31160230
>can finally catch my 99th pikachu

>>31160230
>>way better and true to scale overworld

>>31160230
I can appreciate this level of bait, good show chap

>>31159698
I, too, decided against buying it after playing the leak by Lurantis.

Though I enjoyed XY, I was already getting a bit jaded by ORAS, but the killer online features and easy of breeding still made me play for around 400 hours on two files.

But then I played SM, and I feel like it was such a huge backstep on everything but graphics, that it was hard to swallow.

I was so hyped for these games. They already knew how to work with the 3DS, all the 3D models were done, what could go wrong? And then so many things went wrong. I still feel bad. Not angry, just sad. Where did the fun go?

I refuse thinking that I got old, because I can enjoy older games just fine, even without online. It's just like SM feels soulless and unloved, if that makes sense.

>>31158275
>The game is easy if you tryhard and use the optimal pokemon for everything
What an excellent point anon. I think I'll replay the game when Pokebank comes out and use my level 100 Mewtwo, because it's there so why not?

>>31156060
>hard to grind for money
???

>>31160721
As I said, it's not optimal - it's common things that the game throws at you and expects you to use. I'm not telling you to go out of your way to make an optimized team setup. If the game gives you this stuff along with stat increasers, why not use them?

But of course you take it to the logical extreme and just pulls out the level 100 Mewtwo argument, as if it's somehow even comparable to using the pokemon and items that the game puts on your way.

>>31160691
>It's just like SM feels soulless and unloved, if that makes sense.
It makes sense to me.

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>>31156117
>It's tropical here
>Ice Vulpix and Sandshrew

>>31160691
The leaks ruined my hype after I found out what things were removed and what things were implemented.

Does anybody know how long XY and ORAS were around for before people started regarding them as shit? SM's been out for barely a month and a half and it's pretty obvious that they're one of the most controversial games in the series.

>>31162073
>Does anybody know how long XY and ORAS were around for before people started regarding them as shit?
ORAS is dismissed as shit as soon as those demos got datamined

>>31157188
If you want customization, always play as the girl.

>>31162073
It's usually a week after the game launch when people on this board start complaining about how shit the new games are and how the previous games were much better, but >>31162093
is correct. As soon as the datamine happened every veteran was complaining about the lack of challenge, postgame and battle frontier.

>>31162147
So that's ORAS down, but what about XY?

>>31162183
XY had about a month of everyone loving it before people began souring on it.

SM are definitely controversial as hell, and I say that as someone who likes them. They have some legit flaws that really need ironing out for the (hopeful) third version, but they're probably better off than most other first versions overall.

>>31162183
Most of ORAS' hate came from it not having what people expected (Frontier).

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>>31162452
I hated it for being extremely handhold-y, removing things from Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, creepy stalker Steven, Mary Sue delta episode, and literally giving you a legendary DRAGON less than two hours in. The only thing I liked was Dexnav.

Has anybody done a second play through yet?

How does it compare? Are OP's issues glaring?

>>31162581
I mean from the demo datamining.

I was in denial for a while, I mean, it makes no sense to remake Hoenn and then not include one of the most loved features from Hoenn.

But then it really happened, among with the things you described.

On the plus side, it had the great autism route for hatching eggs, hordes that had a single type of pokemon for easy EV training and Blissey bases, so in the end I still enjoyed them since most of my time is spent on competitive anyway.

>>31163618
Sage. It's a cover image episode, why are you bumping

>>31159630
>w-w-waaaaaaaaaa it's shit because it doesn't agree with my opinion waaaaaaaaaaa

Kill yourself shill.

>>31163793
?
The thread is worthless, it's nothing but opinions

>shilling pokemon on a pokemon board
hmm, really made me think

>>31163841
>The thread is worthless
Your statement is nothing but opinions.

>>31163917
your point being? i'm not making threads about my opinions

>>31164021
If you're this opposed to people opening threads with their opinion, you might consider quitting 4chan and any online boards because most of them are just opinions.

>>31164219
thing about 4chan is that shit threads die fast, unless some retards go and bump them

>>31164343
This one didn't die fast. Maybe people find this subject worthy of discussion.

Guess the thread isn't shit then.

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>>31156060
The only people still pretending that they're the best in the series are the people that are too prideful to admit they either bought into the hype, or where gullible and believed e-celebs like Shofu's lies.

>>31156071
Because linearity in video games is just a negative in general. Why would you want to be on-rails rather than at leas have the OPTION to go off and do things your own way for a bit. Even then, the story isn't that great either.

>>31164412
Maybe it's because of retards like you still bumping an obvious bait post that got btfo right away?

>>31156135
I kinda wish one of the eeveelutions got an alola form.

Ground Glaceon or something would've been hilarious.

>>31164543
>still getting triggered by negative feedback
Holy fuck dude, if you love the games so much just go play them instead of waste your time here.

>>31156060
>complaining about story in an RPG
>>>/v/

>>31156071
It's not. That shit has become such a buzzword in gaming it's hilarious.

>>31164691
Oh look, this shit again.

The "story" is 70% Lillie trying to look cute, 20% Hau and his Malasadas, 5% of other characters and 5% of actual plot.

Just because it is a RPG doesn't excuses its bad "story".

>>31156060
I started having a lot more fun when i got a smoke ball from a salandit. It makes a world of difference being able to bail when battles become a SOS grindfest.

Also curse and moves that do a set amount of damage no matter what are game breaking

>>31156779
That's because they spent 90% of their time talking and doing retarded voices for the characters now, and very little actual playing.

>>31164543
It's not a bait post. This may be surprising to you, underage, but there are people who dislike the shitty cashgrabs that are SM. Stay mad though.

>>31164768
OP didn't complain about the story, though, they just said that they didn't like how "linear" it is.

Pokemon is an RPG (Role-Playing Game), and it has a broad target audience. Asking for both a good and optional story is near impossible.

>>31164813
but it is a bait post, it's the same thread as always

>>31164889
Keep telling yourself that, I'm sure that those people's repeated criticism are just bait, not the game's glaring flaws.

>>31165237
>if i repeat my opinions they become glaring flaws
aight

>>31165281
Yes. SM are very much flawed games. Your point?

>>31165345
that opinions are not glaring flaws?

>>31156836

This is retarded.

Anon means you literally walk into a place and catch them, there's no challenge or maze.

>>31165418
Are you legitimately trying to say that SM are flawless games?

>>31165418
Maybe if many people complain about the same things (as you've implied about those threads "being the same"), it might be because it has a glaring flaws.

>>31165577
no game is flawless, but i don't see your point then

>>31165588
or maybe it's samefaggotry? there's atleast one guy making these threads and samefagging them up

>>31165628
Even if it really is only one guy who makes these threads (it's not) there is still quiet a lot of people who agree with him. Wether you accept it or not.

>>31165628
I'm the OP. It's the first time I opened a whining thread about SM.

If you believe it or not, I don't really care, but I'd say that multiple people having common problems with the games is more probable than a single person dedicating their time to samefag their opinion.

>>31156829
I clutched out Lurantis but fucking Mimikyu killed me first time around, guess why based on team (all around 40 - 42):
> Decidueye
> Kadabra
> Haunter
> Alola!Raichu
> Crabrawler
> Magmar

Kahuna Nanu wasn't that bad, somehow.

Got the game (moon) yesterday.
The camera angles are shit, all the cutscenes and dialogue is mind numbing.
I understand the game is meant for children, but they don't need to hold your hand like they do in this game. It should be about exploring, not going from point to point with no reason to dick around inbetween.

First pokemon game I've played since platinum.

>>31156135
Eh. XY had actually long pants, at least. Elsewise, it was subpar compared to Sun and Moons.

I really miss riding a bike.

>>31156060
>>hard to grind for money

are you fucking retarded?

>>31164445
Shofu says that because he's a Nintendo shill now; he gets games early from them to play and "r8", aka say good things for $$$.

>>31160691
>>31159698
This. SuMo are a blight to the series and gaming in general and those who shill it must be destroyed. SuMo is literally one of the worst things in all of media. It makes me fucking cry to think that the sheeple unironically enjoy this dreck, what is widely considered the Sonic 06 of Pokemon.

RIP Pokemon 1996-2016, may flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.

>>31162073
>controversial
Universally despised is a more accurate term

>>31162398
>and I say that as someone who likes them
SHILL! LEAVE! NOW!
YOUR KIND IS NOT WELCOME HERE!

>>31164445
Shofu and other similar e-celebs need to be gassed.

>>31165696
This. It only further proves my point that /vp/ universally rejects SuMo and will fuck up anyone who shills it.

>>31165815
And it will be your last.

All of these posts will be chronicled as further undeniable proof that /vp/ hates SuM o

>>31156060
Guys
>>31162315
SuMo shilling thread at 5 o'clock.
You know what to do.

>>31168041
>>31153859
And I found another one.

>>31168233
>>31165949
Found another one boys

Bumping again
I wanna see /vp/ fuck up some shills.

SuMo is a horror of a game. Ugh, seeing people like it makes me weep.

>>31162581
do you play SM? do you know what fucking hand hold-y looks like? i've had nothing but freedom in ORAS, not this cuck cutscene bullshit

>>31169403
This. SuMo is a cuck game and I cannot see anyone liking it unless they were paid by Shitendo. Fuck this shit.

>>31156060
Dont they give you one million dollars if you beat the game

Did you even try

>>31169537
Yes.

Fucking casuals killed our series and our childhood.