WHY DOESN'T IT DIE HOW DOES IT HIT SO HARD WHY THE FUCK

I want porygon to quack

>>31153118
Toxic it. No amounts of recovers will save it

>>31153118
eviolite

>>31153118
Toxic it.
Toxic in general is the ultimate counter for any staller that's affected by it.

>>31153176
>it toxics you back

>>31153176
>Happiny used Heal Bell

>>31153118
Knock Off or Toxic generally deal with it.

>>31153118
>Tyroge used Low Kick!

>>31153118
Eviolite was a mistake.

Bring in Reuniclus or Clefable and set up on it.
Anything that can set up in its face without fearing status wrecks it in general like Tail Glow Xurkitree and even big bro Porygon-Z.
I'm so happy both 2 and Z are both great now

>>31153222
252+ Atk Choice Band Machamp Dynamic Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Porygon2: 278-330 (74.3 - 88.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Seriously underastimating how bulky this thing is.

>>31153228
there should be an attack eviolite

>>31153230
>Porygon2 used Charge Beam!
>Its special attack rose!
>Porygon2 used Charge Beam!
>Its special attack rose!

>>31153248
Former 2 use Calm Mind and have recovery, and if the Clefable is running Unaware against non-Toxic Porygon2 Charge Beam is useless.
Latter 2 just need to set up once and proceed to wreck face, though they can't switch in and Porygon-Z can't 2HKO fully special defense invested P2.

That's just the brute force method of course. Normally I just Toxic it.

>>31153238
There really should be one. An Eviolite of Strength to match our Eviolite of Endurance.

What's the best set for Porygon2?

>people still think mr knock off + mach punch'd is better than conversion bro
try again

Eviolite needs a nerf.

>>31153827
it already was retard

>>31153827
Fuck off, Porygon2 isn't that good. It's only top tier in battle spot singles

>>31153468
Assuming one existed as an identical counterpart: Rhydon would reach 526 attack with an adamant nature.

>>31153851
What? Eviolite has never been nerfed.

>>31153851
That was a false rumor when the game first leaked, was it not?

>>31153876
not very relevant, because of the speed tier, spDef and typing
more of note would be things like frogadier or kadabra

>>31153865
Apologies for not wording it properly, but I'd like to see a nerf not to screw P2 over, but to give us a second opportunity at cross-gen evos. Eviolite pretty much single handedly killed the possibility of getting more.

>>31153851
Calls someone a retard after claiming false information to be true. What a faggot.

>JUST TOX IT!
offensive variants don't give two fucks. Most are bulky offense outside smogon OU/UU.

>JUST HIT IT!
It is stupidly fucking bulky.

The best answer is to send out something it can't hit well for singles, for doubles, VGC in particular, the answer is to use it yourself retard.

>>31153946
i mean, not really. they just don't like doing 'em anymore. there's plenty mons that, even if given an evolution, won't really see use/ be broken with eviolite. the "eviolite killed crossgen evos" thing is arbitrary, and frankly, kinda stupid.
gen 5 had non because it was all new, and they simply don't care anymore.

>>31153799
bls resbond

>>31153981
>>31153799
Depends on where you're using it. General rule of thumb is full HP and download.
Doubles loves it as a trick room setter. Singles loves it as a wall that hits decently well.
So doubles you might use TR/recover/attack/attack
Singles you might use status/recover/attack/attack

>>31153965
I disagree. Think of current one stage mons. Most, if not all, would be OP if they could use Eviolite.

>>31153999
I play singles
So Toxic/Recover/charge beam/tri attack with Download, a bold nature and 252hp/126def/126sdef sounds good?

>>31153999
Checked
Is Analytic used, ever?

Is it usable in current OU? And Ubers?
What teams does it fit well on?

>>31154016
You can use Ice Beam to take Mega Mence over Charge Beam

>>31154012
>luvdisc
>farfetch'd
>dunsparce
>qwilfish
>delibird
>spinda
>dedenne

>>31153876
Trapinch would be a monster in LC.

>>31154052
>Current
>Komala
>Dhelmise
>Minior
>Turtonator
>Drampa
>Oranguru

>>31154071
why would you exclude older gens' mons, though?

>>31154071
komala would be fine, 65/65/95 is shit even with eviolite, and it sacrifices its damage output from the meager 115 base damage

>>31154105
Because eviolite didnt exist in older gens, which is the same reason gens such as 2 or 4 could go crazy with cross generation evolutions

>>31154115
yes, and in gen 7, they could have added more cross-gen evolutions, for the aforementioned pokemon, and there'd be no trouble.
eviolite isn't what's stopping them. they just don't /want/ to give all shitty single stage mons an evolution.

>>31153118
Lel I remember running Charge Beam/Double Team Porygon2 in Battle Spot last gen. Caused Asians to ragequit without fail.

>>31154016
Trace has more utility in singles for defensive sets, especially for copying Intimidate against Gyarados and Salamence

>>31154150
>double team pory2
now that's what I call cancer. It should be fun as fuck to play though
Did it work well?

>>31153235
You had to choice band a fucking machamp with dynamic punch to 2hko it.

>>31154397
>i need to be able to 2hko everything

>>31154223
Eh, just like any RNG-based set it was 50-50 at best and not exactly suitable for high-tier play, but when it did work it was hilarious. Then there was also RestTalk2OHKO Walrein. Mind you, Battle Tree's Stockpile Walrein ain't got shit on this one.

>>31154049
No Megamence in singles, fampai.

>>31154714
>singles = smogon
wew fuckin lad

>>31154397
That's the point. The thing is so fucking bulky it only takes 80% from a fucking STAB super-effective 100 base power move coming from a choice banded adamant Machamp

>>31154873
Is there anything bulkier than eviolite pory2? Cresselia and Aegislash maybe?

>>31153958

>offensivde variants don't give two fucks
then it doesn't have that much defensive investment, and then use a fighting attack

>>31153827
Make it work as effectively as it does now only on a first stage of a three stage evolution line, and half as well on the middle stage.

>>31153799
Quiet Download

Recover
Tri Attack
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt/Charge Beam

>>31153118
Would it be worth using focus sash salazzle just so you can toxic certain stallers?

>>31154900
Multiscale Lugia and Giratina

>>31155458
That's what I do.
I've found it to be a great counter to Regenerator Toxapex

>>31154071
You forgot Pyukumuku, the lord of Toxic stall.

>>31154112
>115
>meger
Fucking power creep

>>31153176
Yes it can. Toxic caps at 30% per turn. Useful to know when up against tanks like Slowbro.

>>31155472
Only those two? So porygon2 can work as a wall in ubers?

>>31155824
What are you talking about, toxic doesn't cap

>>31155824
>Toxic caps at 30% per turn
[citation needed]

>>31153118
just run knock off and quit being a fag

>31155824
Blatantly untrue, wouldn't even give a [You].

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>>31155851
Take this as you will

>>31156375
Nice
So how do I build an Ubers team around best duck?

>>31155824
This is wrong and you're a faggot

>>31156375
>31 iv attack
>wanting to 12hko yourself with confusion
No thanks