Hi, we are universally considered to be the worst games in the

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Well, I don't remember the honeymoon phase being that long for ORAS or XY.

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>>31097255
because XY had muh 3D and that's it while ORAS had zero honeymoon phase to begin with because hoennbabies annoyed everybody saying it would be the greatest remakes ever only to get BTFO when they took out the battle frontier. At that moment, all hype died.

/vp/ is never happy (that's what happens when you stick a bunch of autists on a board, they nitpick and complain about everything) the only reason it took so long this time is because gen 6 was universally hated here and ANYTHING other than that would of gotten praised.

Wow...

These were... uh, these were bad. And I don't mean bad in the sense that they were poorly programmed and poorly programmed games, most of the mainline Pokemon games are, but they manage to still be extremely entertaining all the same. I mean that these were BAAAD, they were tedious, boring.

The cutscenes are a pain to get through. They wouldn't be so bad if the characters were likable, but... they're not. Hau is a non-character, he's boring, he doesn't do much and just gets in your way when you're trying to explore the region. The same with Lillie, she's annoying and I could not care less about what her problems are. I thought that after ORAS Gamefreak learned how to write decent characters, since they revisited an old game and improved characters such as Wally, the evil team leaders and your rival. But guess not, because all the characters in SM are just otaku bait or terrible (I guess Zinnia was a sign). Gladion is alright, I guess, he wasn't a rehash of Silver, which is what I was expecting, so that's good enough. I mean, I appreciate the effort. Game also continues the trend of Pokemon games that started somewhere around Gen 5 of you being the chosen one and some super special kid, instead of just some random talented trainer that got caught up int he middle of things.

Game was piss easy. I played with the Exp Share off and on Set and managed to finish the game with my party a good 5 to 10 levels above Kukui's. The supposed Hau battle with his A-Raichu that swept a lot of people? Yeah, I didn't see how it was hard. Menus and movement all seem slow compared to Gen 6. Don't get me started on EV training and breeding. Post-game is almost non-existent, even ORAS and XY had more of it.

One step forward, two steps back once again. My fault for having high expectations.

>>31097682
I would say /vp/ is somewhat content with SM

But there are a number of genuine annoyances with the game

>>31097215
>mass abandonment and death of the series
You're late, Ruby and Sapphire came out 14 years ago.

>>31097717
(you)

>>31097215
That was gen 5

>>31097215
fuck did I say about putting a term in the title so I could filter you in the last time you posted this

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>>31097719
Like I said, /vp/ just needed some games to get the taste of gen 6 out of there mouths. Now that it's finally passed and we moved on they're starting to see the flaws of S/M. It's got quite a few but so does every other game. Each Pokemon game does at least something right and something wrong.

pretty much everyone I know thinks it's the best pokémon game
I enjoyed it, the good parts were really good but the bad parts were really bad

>>31097215
You're talking about Gens 3 and 5 actually. Gen 3 caused Pokémania to die out while BW are hated by pretty much everyone outside of /vp/.

Again with the shitposting, OP?

Go
Kill
Yourself

Your opinion is wrong. Your existence is wrong, remove it from this world.

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>>31098064
funny how the R/S and B/W: the two games with the least amount of genwun pandering sold the worst. It's almost as if genwun normies are a big chunk of their demographic and that's the main reason game freak tends to pander to them. It's funny that their third attempt of trying something different (this time adding some of that genwun spice with the alolan forms) actually worked out. It's like they learned that you need to drill into people heads that Pokemania was once a thing and you can make bank off of selling people the same pokemon altered and then just shoehorn the real new pokemon on the sideline as you make less and less each generation.

>>31098064
Pokemania died before RS. It died at the tail end of gen 2.

>>31097717
Mmmmm delicious pastaladas.

>>31097215
>>31097717
https://youtu.be/T-UVMyAOQqk?t=2506

>>31097215
Literally gen 5

>>31098283
Really fires your neurons, doesn't it?

>>31098158
>>31098158
>smallest new gen ever
>alola has zero cities and what little towns it has are uninspired
>nat dex won't be for the game, but for a fucking app

This game was born dead, face the facts.

>>31098875
I think Haouli or w/e is supposed to be a city but it's quite small

>>31098283
>sold the worst

If we want to get into specifics HGSS sold less than BW

Normies only buy Pokémon for the new shit not the quality

Pokémon in 3D sold like hotcakes

Pokémon with wifi did

Pokémon with more colors and can't transfer over your Pokémon didn't

Pokémon BW selling less than DP is like the same reason GS sold less than RB

Same series on the same console

Also DP were the 6th highest selling games on the ds where BW were 7th

It's not much of a difference

>>31098875
>nat dex won't be for the game, but for a fucking app
It's going to be implemented with the bank update.

>>31098931
I thought he meant Pokebank when he was talking about "the fucking app"

>>31098931
I have a hacked 3ds and I'm not paying extra for the app so I guess I'll have to settle with an incomplete game

>>31098942
I meant that because by its definition, the bank is an app.

>>31098952
>>31098942
http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-au/pokemon-bank/
>A new National Pokédex feature is coming to help you check out the particulars of the Pokémon you’ve deposited!
>When Pokémon Bank is updated to support Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon, it will also gain a new Pokédex feature.

>>31098952
I know what you meant, I was explaining it to him

>>31097215
>play the game exclusively for VGC
>this is the best meta the format has seen in years
I feel bad for cucks like you, OP.

>>31098966
It clearly says there the Nat Dex will gain the Nat Dex, not SM.

>>31099000
>The nat dex will gain the nat dex
what did he mean by this?

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>>31097215
>SM the worst
>When XY, ORAS, DP, and RS exist

>>31099004
Shit, I can't english today

I meant to say the Bank will gain the Nat Dex

>>31097215
Gonna play devils advocate here, the game reviewed better than both Gen VI pairs which is a positive sign for the series, at the end of the day there are millions of Pokémon players and very few of them are like /vp/, which is to say constantly bitching about everything. Even if everyone that uses /vp/, myself included, didn't buy the next games the best Gamefreak wouldn't even notice. Sun and Moon are not great games by any stretch of the imagination, they are however good games, go most anywhere outside of this board and you will see the good reception it got. If XY and ORAS didn't kill the series then SM sure as hell won't.

>>31099029
ORAS and RS are better than what SM could have ever been, fuck off with your shit taste.

(You) repeating the same shit daily won't make it more true.

We moved on from the 8bit days OP

>>31099095
why

>>31097215
The games have flaws but I enjoyed them. I like this gen, all in all.

I could understand why some people would think otherwise, but if you think S&M killed the franchise you're just wrong in every possible way tho

>>31099178
Except that more and more people everywhere (read: not just /vp/) are starting to shit on SM. Stay mad, cuck.

ahem

children games

>>31099281
Literally where

Find me a post

>>31098921

>pokémon BW selling less than DP is like the same reason GS sold less than RB

then explain why Sun and Moon are doing better than XY/ORAS? In before "Go popularity" copout answer. Yeah I'm sure MILLIONS of normies bought 3DS's and a copy of SuMo just because of Go.

>>31097215
Can you use a tripcode next time?

>>31099344
Not him but I'm guessing aside from Go, it's because more people have 3DSes now and they advertised it more.

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>>31099281
The burden of proof is on you.

>>31097215
That was dp, if you were born before 2003 you would know this

>>31099281
>except that not everyone outside of /vp/ likes SM
More news at 11

>>31099365
SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP YOU'RE JUST A GENWUNNER GET THE FRICK OUT OF MY SAFE SPACE!!

>>31099365
>>31099378
>posts are one minute and 3 seconds apart
lol

>>31099291
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamefaqs.com%2Fboards%2F187276-pokemon-sun%2F74782859
Keep in mind that this is only the first page
>b-b-but gamefaqs are idiots
Pokémon is supposed to appeal to "normies" such as them, not Chris-chan tier autists like you smogonfags.

>>31099365
MODS HELP

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>>31099378
>can't provide proofs that SM is universally hated
>false flags

Why don't genwunners die?

>>31099365

except Diamond and Pearl outsold all the Gen 3 games by a landslide.

>HURR IT THE FIRST GAME ON A NEW CONSOLE

So was RS. Gen 3 was shat on for not having transferring mons from Gen 1/2. The backlash was so bad Gamefreak made FRLG as a belated apology for isolating old fans.

>>31099455
>sales = quality
So pokemon go is the greatest pokemon game ever made

>>31098952
>I have a hacked 3ds
get the homebrew bank retard. arguably superior to the real one in that it isn't """""""online""""""""

>>31099507
I know about that one but I'd rather wait until the official one is updated to know it's safe to bring my bros to Alola with the PhBank


On other news, I'm fucking sick of this store front captcha

>>31099464

t. Unovabortion still assmad normies didn't like Black and White and almost killed the series

Say what you will about BW2 the first one was an abortion outside of the plot and it was arrogant for Gamefreak to think that fans would be okay with being forced to ONLY use new mons. And a lot of them sucked. Didn't help that Gen 5 is generally considered the weakest gen for starters.

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>>31097215
Bro, if XYORAS didn't kill pokemon then sun and moon stand no chance. The two games preceding sunmoon were irredeemable garbage. It didn't stop sunmoon from bein ghte fastest selling pokemon games.

>>31099538
>le bw2 is good meme
>its the exact same game but with more shitty caves

stay braindead gen 4 sheep

>>31099392
>literally only 3 nintendrones mad because they can't handle cutscenes and plot
Really makes you think

>this sad meme again

>>31099392
>gamefaqs

>>31099464
>sales
>free iphone game

>>31099561

i said BW2 was BETTER than BW I didn't say it was great. Fuck I'll agree to disagree and say that Diamond and Pearl were terrible........compared to Platinum.

>>31099464
You literally have to be underaged to not know how Crystal and RB killed pokemania

>>31099392
>Pokemon is supposed to appeal to "normies"
>normies
>on my /vp/?

yeah, no. neck yourself. this has been your 10th forced hate meme thread, literally no one is agreeing with you and you're just samefagging over and over your last posts.

>>31099675
>anyone who disagrees with me is just one person!

Kill yourself my negro. The last poll that was made had over 2/3 people dislike SM, while less than one third actually liked it. Stay in denial though, autist.

>>31099794
Not him but polls don't mean shit because they're so easy to bot and you know it. Don't be stupid.

>>31099794
>implying a poll made by a literal retard means so much, much less posted in a shithole like /vp/

please, anon. Do entertain us more.

>>31099538

let's play a game of NAME ALL THE POKEMON THAT ARE BAD IN GEN 5 THAT AREN'T MEME ICE CREAM AND TRASH BAG!

>Watchog line
>Stoutland line(except Stoutland he's fine)
>Liepard line
>all the fucking element monkey abortions
>Musharna line
>Unfeazant line
>Swoobat line
>Tympole and Palpitoad
>Bert and Ernie Kung Fu Fighters
>Basculine
>Maractus
>Sigilyph
>discount Aerodactyl
>Swanna line
>Sawsbuck line
>not Luvdisc evolution
>Klinklank line
>Beheeyem line
>Cryogonal
>Stunfisk
>Mienshao line
>Druddigon
>Heatmor/Durant
>musketeer ponies
>copy paste genies
>music waifu
>LITERALLY DIGIMON
>ice dragon abortion

>>31099794
Are you seriously talking about the one poll that got poseted in the pokebarneyfag thread?

Kys autist

>>31099846
>all the fucking element monkey abortions
>musketeer ponies
>copy paste genies
Literally the only ones you're correct on. The rest range from just slightly disappointing but inoffensive to great. Your taste is poor.

>>31099866
>waaa that poll doesn't count if it doesn't agree with my opinion waaaaaaa

Kek, kill yourself retard.

>>31099095
(You)

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>>31100379
>(You)

>>31099846
Anon, how useful are some of these Pokémon for your journey if you used them? A design can be nice but doesn't mean it's use.

Sorry I saw more abandon and hate in black and white than this gen

>>31100421
>(..............)

>Pokemon has the most successful year since the turn of the century
>"I-It's shit the franchise is ruined!"
Autism speaks.

>>31098064
nigga, gen 3 and 5 are literally universally considered as the best gens

>>31097215
>praised for its story
>sold incredibly fast even relative to other Pokemon games
>most normies praise it
You can post this as many times as you want but it's still going to be successful.

>>31100763
Bait maybe gen 3

Only shot mechanic os the fishing one. I see no problem with the rest. Breeding is easier, ev training can be done in a single battle, iv checking, no hm, post game is good too

>>31097215
But that's not a picture of XY

>>31097717
>all the characters in SM are just otaku bait or terrible
>Gladion is alright

Why everyone hate the cutscenes?
It's better than see the character just standing and smashing the A button

>>31100763
nah, but they're not considered the worst either

>>31099846
>I hate everything

>>31100999
Trips confirm

>>31100999
Low attention span kids.

>>31100999
The actual cutscenes aren't the problem. Those are few and far in-between. The problem is the fade-to-black railroad scenes which are fucking everywhere. They're fairly slow and force you to do exactly what the plot demands. And, honestly, while that's not something new to Pokemon people think it's a lot more strict this time around.

Op I keep telling you that your opinion is objectively wrong and shit, and that you should kill yourself.

And you still haven't.


Kill yourself

>>31099095
this

>>31099552
>he doesn´t think XY are goog games
>he doesn´t think ORAS are great games

Stay mad, and buy yourself a good taste.

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>>31099846

>>31100763
Nope, not even close.

>>31099538

t. autist who threw a fit that he couldn't use his Charizard for the 8000th time