>Finally a fire/dragon that is not a legendary >is

>>31057982

Firefags are about to become as destitute as Icefags are. GameFreak just doesn't like making Pokemon for that type at all.

>>31057982
>Finally a fire/dragon that is not a legendary
>it's a turtle of all things
>an ugly turtle
>an ugly turtle fire/dragon that isn't even an evolution for Torkoal

I'm still waiting for a proper Dragon/Fire AND Grass/Dragon type. I am not content.

>>31058170
at least it's not a shitty fucking waifu

fuck what grass has become

>who is burasto

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>>31057982
>implying Mega Charizard X

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>>31058195
>talking shit on turtles
LITERALLY kill yourself

>>31058170
You realize how few Fire Types there are to play with when you remove legendaries and starters.

>>31058234
This is true. Its honestly an embarrassment

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>>31057982
>its a fire/dragon thats not a legendary or pseudo.
>is shit

what were you expecting?

>>31058276
Megas are temporary so they don't count

>>31058234
As much as I like the bitchy mangosteen queen, yeah they have to stop

I still don't get how that mine signature move works

>Assault Vest
>Charge Beam/Draco Meteor/Flash Cannon/Flamethrower

>>31058450
They have to use a physical move on you in the same turn that Shell Trap was used for it to go off. It has priority but it's still kind of shitty.

>>31058170
Can't wait the Ghost/Steel/Fairy/Dragon meta of Gen 9

>>31058450
It doesnt work becuse anybody with a brain uses a special move to kill it.

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>>31058503
Yeah, a negative one. What's it gonna it, a Dragon Tail user?

>>31058578
It magically casts itself. The enemy hits you and then you attack. Hence negative priority because they have to hit you. You get a failed message after they use a move that doesn't hit.

>>31058611
Oh ok that makes more sense. Never used Turtonator

>>31058234
>Dhelmise
>Kartana
This is the best Grass has ever been tbqh

>>31057982
more like turdonator lmao

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>>31057982
I was expecting something better for a dragon/fire design, take sage for example a chinese dragon + fireworks

>>31058578
It works like an opposite focus punch

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>>31058170
It's actually been getting better the past few gens.

>>31058998
why does this thing feel like drampa + turtonator
and why is its design better than both

>>31059496

>putting ANYTHING inside of a Dusk Ball just because m-muh ghost type

Balltism confirmed for zero taste, nothing should ever go into the Dusk Ball because it's the vomit green shiny Pokeball and looks hideous in all situations.

>>31057982
it might not look so bad without that retarded nose and yellow lips

>>31059542

The tail and feet are what puts me off the most. They just feel lazy as fuck.

>>31059537
I only put that on there as a secondary option because everyone in the Balltism thread was shouting about MUH GHOST TYPES IN DUSK BALLS. I don't like that one, nor do I like Typhlosion in Great Ball, but I didn't want to argue.

>>31058170
I dunno, Turtonator might be crap but Alola Marowak is quite the anti meta game Mon, and Alola Ninetails is one of the best ice types released since Cloyster got shell smash. Seem like they at least they tried.

>>31059537
Maybe so but it still has the coolest opening animation.

>>31059537
>not catching your extra UBs in Dusk Balls, soft resetting to make sure they're just as competitively viable as your personal catches
Someone out there is going to want a competitive Celesteela, and they'll be getting one in a Dusk Ball

>>31059537
>introduce one of the most useful balls in the game
>make it piss-ugly
Dusk Balls and Quick Balls. Why.

>>31059496
Does anybody have the image that includes all pokemon up to gen 7?

>>31059496
They need to make more ball types in general.
I don't care what effects they have, I want more colors and patterns.

>>31059698
There should be Burn and Poison Balls that have an increased chance to catch Pokémon with those status conditions. There's nothing quite as horrible as forgetting that a move or ability has a chance to inflict burn or poison and then desperately hoping to catch the Pokémon before time runs out.

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>>31058578
Holy shit, this move would've been great if the trap stayed for more than one turn and after you switched out.

Bravo, GF

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>>31059817

>bomb ball
>higher chance to catch if wild Pokemon has Self Destruct or Explosion in it's movepool

>>31059817
Increased to the chances of 'ultra ball on a sleeping pokemon' but only on the correct statused thing, otherwise regular pokeball.
Sleep ball that has the same rates, but that just means you're using a more restrictive ultra ball or want the colors/pattern because it's already fucking asleep.
Paralyze ball too! Same deal! Freeze ball that is...actually probably better than the others just because if you manage to freeze something you want to catch you deserve it.

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>don't mind me, just busy being Gamefreak's favorite type

>>31059817
>a ball for every status condition
>a ball for every evolution stone, as Moon Ball
>a ball for every stat, increased chance to catch the more combat stages that stat has been lowered

>>31059964
I'm confused, I've never seen Water or Fairy spelled that way

>>31059964
and Niantic's least favorite

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>>31058195
t.Devilman

>>31059496
Are there really this few fully evolved fire types?

That Marowak should technically be Gen 1 but I get it

>>31060013

And 7 of them are starters. Imagine if Fire wasn't a starter type?

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>>31059817
Just use Sparkling Aria to remove the burn.

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>>31058234
Tsareena is the only grass waifumon introduced though.
>>31058432
>>31058385
Magosteens are the queen of fruits. Its less forced compared to designs like Lilligant.

>>31057982
>almost every Alolan Pokemon that isn't a legendary
>it's shit
Th-thanks GameFreak

>>31058385
That's because, like Ice type, Fire type is hard to put in the wild, unlike Water, Rock, Grass or Flying type.

>>31059496
>Typhlosion
>Great ball
What the fuck

>>31060137
Well, one of the things Gen6 definitely DID do right was have its new fire types be believably things you find in the wild.
They just need to make more fire types that aren't on fire 24/7, or at least their prevos aren't.
>>31060179
they already explained >>31059589

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>>31059668

>>31060074
>lurantis
>shiinotic

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>>31060137
>The mayority of ice mons are found only in some cold cave
>There are tons of volcanoes and hot areas in the games
>Fire type is hard to put in the wild

>>31057982
I'm still waiting for the pokebank update to make turtonator torkoal's evo and drampa dunsparce's evo a man can dream

>>31060432

>huge volcano is the centerpiece of one of the trials
>have to enter caves to climb it
>caves don't exist and you just warp to the top of the volcano

Single biggest piece of unfinished/dropped content in Sun/Moon by far. They did so many things right but they dropped the ball hard with the volcano.

>>31060454
But torkoal is IN this game. In the same general area as turtonator.

>>31060432
>the cold cave is always at the end of the game for some reason

>>31060577
a man can dream

>>31059906
OH LORD BLESS THIS THY HAND-GRENADE!

>>31059698
What I truly want is the option to change a pokemon's current ball into something else, make it a one time per mon/timed thing and very expensive maybe, I have a great Gen 3 shiny but it will forever be stuck in a regular pokeball because it was hatched.

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>>31059906
>Bombball not the Quaran

>>31060429
Shiinotic is just a creepy toad. Lurantis fas feminine features but it's not anthro enough IMO

>>31060074
There are many ways to convey a royal theme. Tyrantrum is not a humanoid kind just because of his secondary theme. On top of that, Tsareena might as well just be Liligant Alolan forme. Probably one my least favorite Gen 7 pokémon

>>31059526
I like Drampa, altough I don't think it's a design for everyone.

I agree Drampa could use a redesign, it looks like it's made of Play-Doh

>>31061364
You don't even know what the image he posted is, do you?

>>31060137
We've had volcanoes as far back as Generation 1, as well as routes next to and between big cities and power plants. And mountainous routes have been a thing in every gen too.

Plus, Ice or Fire can easily just be paired with those types more. Its what Kanto did. Water/Ice mons

>>31058998
I don't particularly like Turtonator but Fuelong isn't that great either. It suffers from the same thing that a lot of the Sage dex does, where it's technically well designed but also really plain.

>>31061848
Hell, Kanto had Vulpix and Growlithe in the middle of the map, nowheres near the Designated Fire Area. And it didn't seem that odd, because they were fire types that weren't on fire.

>>31058170
Fire became great thanks to fairy, i have no idea what you're on about.

>>31058415
it counts because it happens when it matters the most, in battle

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>>31061389
Compared to a fucking T-rex, it's impossible to not convey a royalty theme on this design base without a spice of anthropomorphism. Tsareena's proportions are unnatural for human standards anyway.

>>31058170
Or Gamefreak is just simply an incompetent company that has no clue on how to manage the metagame.