What the fuck are they thinking anyway? Who gives a shit if it

>>30974308
I agree OP. Autists (99% of the fanbase) are going to reset for a female anyway, might as well make it easier on them.

Why don't they just make the one you receive at the beginning gender-locked into being male, but the actual species when hatched (or encountered in the wild like with Friend Safaris and Island Scan) is 50/50?

>>30974308
Not only the starters but you also have it with Eevee and fossil pokemon with the 7:1 ratio.

>Those compressed artworks

Seriously?

>>30974308
the starter ratio I think was probably so that all the little boys who migrated their Blastoise/Charizard/Venusaur over in gen 2 didn't get angry when they found out their bro was a girl the whole time.

Then they just ran with it.
tfw my Sparly from Yellow Version was a girl the whole time

>>30974308
Agreed 100%

The attempt at making them rare may have worked in the past, but it has no place in nowadays with dittos being so easy to obtain.

It's just a holdover from gen 2 and 3, when they weren't sure how breeding was going to effect trading (especially Ruby and Sapphire, when Ditto wasn't available).

>>30974423
It's a thumbnail for a thread on 4chan. We don't need to get too fancy.

>>30974308
They're mostly biologically male, but this doesn't mean they can't be female gender-wise.

>>30974428
This.

>>30974504
This. They can still identify as another gender.

>>30974442
>Breeding invented in Gen II
>Unbalanced gender ratios for starters introduced in Gen II
>Ditto placed on the same route as the Day Care in Gen II

Why even bother

>>30974504
dont start this trans shit here

>>30974422
I think it's bullshit with the other pokémon too, especially Eevee, but in their case I at least understand it. But with starters, those are given to you at the start of the game. Making them hard to breed should not take priority over alienating half their fanbase.

>>30974504
>>30974542
gr8 b8 m8s
i kek'd

>>30974504
why don't the games call it sex instead of gender
that'd be more accurate right

>>30974308

Sorry, it's for gameplay purposes. Otherwise kiddies could mass breed their starter and get all kinds of powerful pokemon as soon as they reach a nursery.

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>>30974580
>implying they can't already do this by wondertrading Grubbins or Pikipek until they acquire a Pokemon of value, to which they then put it up on the GTS asking for an even better Pokemon

>>30974580
Ah yes, that team of 6 Meganiums that tore up the Elite 4. I see your point.

>>30974578
Its a kids game and sex has a double meaning, its not techically correct to call it gender but they wont change any time soon.

>>30974578
Yeah this, >>30974637

We're starting to get past the point where people are just triggered by the word 'sex', or maybe it's just because I'm an adult now, but either way parents would flip their shit if they called it 'sex' in the games. Don't want little Jimmy googling what it means.

I don't think there's a proper synonym for 'biological sex' in the English language. The closest we have is gender.

>>30974308
It doesn't fucking matter. The last time I cared about shit like this was when I was a stupid kid still in elementary playing Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. That should you tell you something about being ticked by something like this.

>>30974696
>implying sex =/= gender
gr8 b8 m8

>>30974800
This is bait but that's literally the opposite of what was stated.

Anyway, I'm fine with calling it gender. Sex and gender were used almost interchangeably 10 years ago, now people are all upset over the technicalities.

>>30974932
hey
>>30974800
here, and I meant to link
>>30974637
instead of your post.

I are 'tard.

>>30974969
Oh, sorry. Always strange when people on 4chan are legitimately polite. Go figure huh.

>>30975018
lol.
It's even more strange- cause I WAS just baiting hardcore / being a massive douche.
I guess I'm not a real troll.. I can't even keep the act up.
not sure if that's a good thing or not

>>30974308
>What kind of message does this send to the girls who play Pokémon
That it's ok for males to be cute?

>>30974308
GF just doesn't give a shit anymore. It's also worth noting that all three get shit on more than any of the other starters except for maybe Samurott.

>>30975377
Except that it's clearly not ok given that 90% of the fanbase hates Meganium and Primarina and only likes Delphox for Braixen.

>>30975412
Apparently the 'majority of the fanbase' unironically liked gen V, and thinks ORAS is shit, so...
I've given up listening to what any majority says about anything.

The message it sends to the ladies who play pokémon is that theyre rarer than men and therefore worth more than them #freethenipple

>>30975527
Definitely the case with Popplio/Primarina in my experience. For all the shitposting about only tumblr and homosexuals liking 'him' and how every single Primarina pic ever is of a male, the females are FAR more popular for trading.

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>>30975453
Gentlemen, behold, the contrarian contrarian!

>>30975412
>/veepee/ reflects most Pokemon players

>>30975844
>Gentlemen, behold, the contrarian contrarian!
but I ACTUALLY think gen V is shit and ORAS is the best, so...
GTFO, I guess.

>>30975986
Gen V is still better than XY and SM regardless.

>>30976027
>Gen V is still better than XY
yup
>and SM
nope.
XY are at the bottom, gen V is right above that.
SM is somewhere in the middle, and ORAS is best.

>>30976110
SM is definitely on the lower end and Gen V is aboveboth SM and ORAS.

>>30975412
>90% of the fanbase hates Primarina
In what world? Because among fan artists, they're quite popular. And not just for porn, a lot of female fans love them for having an aesthetically pleasing design, and they wouldn't get hung up over how girly it looks

>>30976161
>Gen V is aboveboth SM and ORAS.
>if I keep shouting it, it'll eventually be true!

>>30976110
No dude.
SM is pure pandering trash.

>>30976232
The problem with Primarina is that it's hard to say why people who like it do like it and if they actually like it. On one hand you have waifufags who actually like it. On the other you have people who 'like' it that always refer to it as 'he' and love to talk about 'him' and how 'he' has a penis, who are clearly shitposters and people who hate it. And then there is the tumblr crowd who also like it as a male because of their agenda.

What gets me is why this has never been such a huge deal before. You had this come up to a lesser extent but the likes of Glaceon, Sylveon and Fennekin's line didn't get nearly this much shit. I actually feel bad about it being a starter just because that probably ruined any chance for it to enjoy any real popularity. It's honestly a rather beautiful design imo.

>>30974578
>sex is defined by reproductive ability
Thinking there are two sexes determined solely by pee-pee or lack of pee-pee is incredibly naive. You need to consider karyotypes, hormones, etc.

>>30974308
There's an abstract line where I don't see Meganium or Delphox as "inherently gendered" Pokemon designs, but I do consider Primaria as a very gendered design.

Get rid of the hair and the pearls, then it'd be better.

>>30976346
Actually I've seen many tumblr fanartists not really care which gender their Primarina was and some of them resetted for a girl too. Not to mention the majority of gijinkas (not sexual either, so not drawn by waifufags) portray Primarina as female.

>>30976394
Fucking dumbass

>>30974308
Weirdly enough for three separate games I would always get a female starter. I had just assumed that the distribution was 50/50.

>>30974308
>What kind of message does this send to the girls who play Pokémon?
You tell me, I legitimately have no idea what you mean.

>>30974932
It's almost like our understanding of the subject has improved, or something

>>30974308
>What kind of message does this send to the girls who play Pokémon?
That boys can be cute too?

>>30976407
Well mentioning tumblr is just a general way to say the LGBTQIASTFMIA crowd since that's what people here do. I would think that most normalfags would see Primarina and think of it as a girl though, since everything about it is feminine and I am convinced that it was designed around being female.

>>30976304
>pokemon has always been pure pandering trash.
ftfy

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>>30974428
>gender ratio might have been fucked to make starters male to please their boy fans
>anon's pokémon was a girl anyway

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>>30976489
People around here are perfectly aware that Tumblr has plenty of really talented artists and shit, and fuck me, I poke my head in sometimes if I hear about someone talented from the outside.

The place is just filled with fucking whiny weirdos otherwise.

>>30976722
>The place is filled with fucking whiny weirdos otherwise
So, like here?

>>30974308
The gender ratios for that pic related should be the opposite (male - 25%:female - 75%) rather than just 50%:50%

>>30974932
>Sex and gender were used almost interchangeably 10 years ago, now people are all upset over the technicalities.
That's bullshit.
Just take a look at the phrases "sexed chicken" vs "gendered object" (a phrase appearing in books as early as the 1980s).
A sexed chicken is a chicken that has been identified as male or female.
A gendered object is something that society has ascribed as masculine or feminine, like how dolls are gendered toys or how football and softball are typically considered gendered sports.

You don't gender animals, and you (typically) don't sex objects.

>>30977134
>You don't gender animals
Yeah you do. You just gender them the same as their sex, like we should (still) be doing for humans.
>and you (typically) don't sex objects.
I mean, I did dry hump the corner of a table once... Came REALLY hard.. so maybe we SHOULD sex objects...

>>30977248
>like we should (still) be doing for humans.
So what authority do you have to speak on this subject? What papers have you written? Where's your degree?

>>30977292
>So what authority do you have to speak on this subject?
Absolutely none.
Which, coincidentally, is exactly the amount of authority people had 200 years ago when they burned bitches at the stake for thinking they were witches.
It should take 'authority' to look at a delusional person and label them as such.
The problem comes when we start letting the delusional people label who's delusional and who isn't.

Use your authority and your papers and your degree to get me to believe that transgender isn't a fucking mental disorder- i dare you.

>>30977364
The international psychiatric community agrees with the DSM V that it is, in fact, not a mental disorder, and I'm going to trust the views of people who dedicate their lives to studying the mind over random internet bigots

>>30977569
>The international psychiatric community agrees with the DSM V that it is, in fact, not a mental disorder
sauce?

I don't even mind the other two, but man, Primarina's design is on a whole new level of "forced cuteness for the new girl audience", so much that it actually hinders me ever trying to think of it as anything but female.

And I'm the kind of faggot that used to love its male Meganium because that was a nice ass bro with a fine ass flower bloom that used to cheer me for days. Delphox, I always pretty much considered it pretty neutral, despite people saying otherwise (although that's more regarding Braixen and even that's not that bad, it just looks like a quirky wizard fox). I never picked it though, but I always considered.

I guess that Popplio line just ain't for me, no matter how many twists and turns I wind up making. I think it's the whole snotty kid > young kid that giggles constantly and never shows its true colors > prideful prima donna implication that it might have that doesn't bode with me. Popplio already put me on red alert previously due to his snotty attitude.

>>30974308
>What kind of message does this send to the girls who play Pokémon?
If you're referring to actual little girls, I would imagine nothing, because they're probably not autistic enough to look shit like the gender ratio of a magic animal up before they start playing a video game.

>>30974308
Who the fuck wants a girl Pokémon?
You could end up with cooties.

>>30976394
>thinks karyotypes and hormones matter
maybe in 0.0000001% of cases theres some weird shit going on genetically but stop pretending its a common problem.

That's like me saying
Thinking people only have one eye colour determined solely by green, brown, blue etc is incredibly naive. Some people have different coloured eyes!

>>30974504
>>30974542
>le tranny maymay
Here’s your Y O U, faggot

>>30974308
>Who gives a shit if it makes them "rarer and harder to breed"?
Gamefreak.

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Who cares, Team Four star made male Chikorita better. Mr. Stake is hilarious.

>>30974308

>tfw I actually reset in all three of those games to get a female version of all three of those starters

Chikoria/Meganium is the only one I ended up liking in any capacity. Bulky, self heals, dual screens. It's great. The other two are shit.

>pokémon sexes
unless it's for evolutions and nicknaming, what does it matter?

>>30976511
Nope

>>30976110
>ORAS
>good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>30979241
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>>30977292
>So what authority do you have to speak on this subject? What papers have you written? Where's your degree?
Where's yours?

>>30977569
>believing in jewish psychiatry
Kek! Priceless.

>>30980577
>anything i disagree with is a Jewish conspiracy!

Fuck off Adolf

>>30979177
4u desu

>>30974580
>implying kids understand egg groups
>implying starters are that much powerful compared to other mons
>implying most kids won't just use their overlevelled starter to get through everything

>>30974696
It's called 'sex' in romance language famalam.

>>30979177
>acknowledges the bait
>STILL gets assblasted
it might be good for you to move into a cabin in the woods without internet access for a month

>>30974578

Sex is a bad word for childruns, don't you know

>>30981046
Ditto, using the word "sex" can carry an unwanted meaning, "gender" is pretty straightforward and easily understood, no matter what SJWs say.

>>30974428
My first starter ever was a female Totodile.

>>30977634
>>30977364
>I only trust authority and verifiable sources!

>>30980577
>e-except when they say something I disagree with! Then they're Jewish!
whoa....so....this is the power....of /pol/ arguments......

>>30974308
>it has a flower on its neck its a girl lol
the other one's are a bit more understandable, but come on OP.