XY = The Force Awakens >excessive pandering to first incarnation

>Unova games leave out Charizard
>Rogue One makes the best of Darth Vader that it can

Try harder and remember that KOTOR is a thing

>>30963882
>SM
>minimal use of nostalgia

>>30963902
>forgetting about Charizard Bridge

>>30963920
SM has a small but memorable Charizard cameo, Rogue One has a small but memorable Vader cameo, so it works.

>>30963882
>Unova/SM
No. No. Just, no. OP, no. SM doesn't fit in there. It's pandering up the ass.

>>30963882

Holy shit, this is true.

SM and Rogue One were enjoyable, whereas XY and FA were both literally 'forced'.

Rogue One
>significantly more mature than previous installments
SM
>the darkest mainline game

really makes you think

>>30963925
That was just random name dropping and not a cameo from the big lizard itself.

>>30963882
XY = The Force Awakens
>Return of the franchise to its peak

Unova/SM = Rogue One
>Atempt to do something new and fail miserably at the essentials

>>30963958
>SM
>Darkest mainline game
(you)

>>30963958
>>the darkest mainline game
Only if you literally never read text boxes or thought about the shit NPCs said. There's a lot more surface stuff than is par, sure, but Pokemon's always been dark if you gave it any thought or investigation.

Even fucking Lysandre was going to genocide people for not being pretty, and his entire game and team were a joke in the writing department.

>>30963957
SM was forced af, Shit, and they sucked.

>>30963989
Hi, JJ Abrams

XY = The Force Awakens
>excessive pandering to first incarnation of the series
>soulless cash grab according to 4chan
>loved by jaded normies who hated the more "experimental" entries

SM = Rogue One
>minimal but effective use of references/nostalgia
>good experience that told a different story instead of being a carbon copy
>minimal but effective cameo from the character most loved by genwunners

Unova = KOTOR
>completely detached from the rest of the franchise, at least at first
>highly acclaimed but fairly obscure outside of the franchise's dedicated fandom
>completely ignored with the new, nostalgia-pandering direction the franchise took

Platinum = ROTS
>successor to what are usually considered the absolute worst entries in their respective series
>highly flawed but praised by 4chan like there's no tomorrow

RBY = ANH
>very first entry
>dated, clunky and formulaic, but the most iconic

GSC/HGSS = TESB
>direct sequel to the earliest entries
>most beloved and acclaimed entries by normies and outside of 4chan

>>30964039
Only on 4chan is JJ Abrams a slur

>>30963989
Yeah, no. No on the first part. Yes on the second part, but only for SM. Unovas was great.

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>>30964063
>Platinum = ROTS
You better not be fucking comparing a good game like Platinum to Revenge of the Sith. That acronym had better mean something else.

Depending on the answer, I might have to kick your ass.

>>30964063
>SM = Rogue One
>minimal but effective use of references/nostalgia

Fuck no.
It had more nostalgia than XY = The Force Awakens.

>>30964063
>SM
>minimal nostalgia
The whole game was basically covered in nostalgia from gen 1, with tiny bits of it from other gens here and there.

Unovas is great, lol.
Platinum, flawed? Have you PLAYED them?
The rest is eh, cuz you forgot gen 3.

>>30964063
>Platinum = ROTS
ROTS is garbage. Platinum is pretty good.

>>30964125
Both Platinum and ROTS are good but flawed. ROTS is just as much a sacred cow on /tv/ as Platinum is here, though.

>>30963882
I didn't think the Star Wars franchise could make a protagonist who was more bland and boring than Rey.
Rogue One proved me wrong.

>>30964063
>Platinum = ROTS

Surely you meant Platinum=ROTJ, right?

>>30964128
>carbon copy plot
>luke
>leia
>solo
>chewbacca
>millenium falcon
>female not-yoda
>not-death star
Delulu

>>30964202
Gen 3 = ROTJ, it came after the two most beloved generations and had its flaws but generally turned out very good games (FRLG, Emerald)

XY = Chicken
BW = Fish
SM = Dog
prove me wrong

>>30963989
>forced awakens and xy
>return franchise to peak

That's like saying Paper Mario Sticker Star was a good Paper Mario.

>>30964063
but TESB is the best not the worst

>>30964278
>a good Paper Mario
that doesn't exist

>>30964278
It was better than the prequels/previous gens yes.

>>30964185
Why do /pol/shitters hate women?

>>30964181
I'll give you that Platinum was flawed, but Revenge, despite being the best of the prequels, was still a pile of steaming garbage.

It's like comparing apples to oranges, except the apple is clearly half-rotten and you're still trying to say they're both equal because the orange has a few blemishes on its skin.

>>30964353
>disliking bland protags means you hate women
Really made me think.

>>30964341
>making bait this fucking obvious

>>30964239
Are you implying that ROTS is better than ROTJ?

Because Gen 4 is overall better than Gen 3.

>>30963882
>minimal but effective use of references/nostalgia
>minimal
kanto references in SM aren't minimal.

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I highly predict that by next summer, we can add Spider-Man Homecoming as a "loved by normies, hated by 4chan" entry, and TASM2 or Spider-Man 3 as the "contrarian hipster" entry.

>>30964268
>BW
>Fish
>Fish is a symbol for Jesus
>Jesus is equal to god
>BW is God tier

Yup, I agree.

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>>30964424
>tfw normies didn't really care one way or the other about your favorite Marvel film
Glad I can like this without being called normie or contrarian.

>>30964217
Wasn't Star Wars supposed to be an entirely different movie that they didn't get the rights for?

>>30964319
Fucking Delete this

>>30964534
Wat??

>>30964424
Spider-Man 3 is great tho.
Better than the souless cashgrabs Marvel makes nowadays.

>>30964685
Like clockwork.

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Who's the Sheev of Pokemon?

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>>30964715

>le Rogue One is good meme!

I want it to die. It's more pandering than TFA.

>>30964762
How

>>30964782

>instead of updating or twisting around the original trilogy and doing it's own thing, it's straight up "STAR WARS YOU REMEMBER!"
>all the people literally clapping over Vader pulling out a lightsaber
>it's a prequel to something we already know happens!
>muh war theme and blind chinaman

>>30963882
>The Force Awakens
>excessive pandering to first incarnation of the series
Actually The Force Awakens is a shitty Disney carbon copy of a New Hope storywise, because JewJew Abrams is a talentless hack

>>30964762
>more pandering than TFA
Delusion: the post

>>30964932
That's not pandering though

>>30963882
>Rogue-One
>Minimal use of nostalgia

>>30964932
>instead of updating or twisting around the original trilogy and doing it's own thing
It DID do its own thing. It took the focus away from the jedi

>>30963989
>Unova
>attempt to do something

>>30965146
*new

>>30965146
>creation of the "N" type character that they've already tried to recreate in every subsequent game

>>30964074
Nope, Unova failed so miserablely that GF created the next two, not one, but two, regions to be pretty much the literal antithesis of Gen 5. SM having the same XP scaling doesn't make it similar either.

>Rogue One fails to develop its characters and they're all one-note
>Rogue One = SM

Like pottery

>>30965176
what the fuck are you talking about

>>30965180
>the literal antithesis of Gen 5.

If you ask me they follow a similar path I. SM with the linear story and interacting with Gym leaders

What the fuck are you talking about

>>30965233
The general mysterious character

>Colress
>AZ
>Zinnia
>Lillie

>>30964004
Then there's Ghetsis who both abused his son and mad an attempt on the protag's life.

>>30965233
>>30965283
Colress is doesn't actually fit when I think about it but the other 3 do

As the other 3 disappear after the story

They all have a tragic past, with the story/it's lore focusing around them

>>30964408
>Because Gen 4 is overall better than Gen 3.
>made everything worse
>better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6_zvQQ5P8w

>TFA
>Good, but banks too hard on nostalgia

>Rogue One
>Ultimately pointless because of predictability, one-note characters, and lacks essential Star Wars feel

They're both on opposite ends of the spectrum but TFA at least was a fun movie

>>30965283
>general mysterious character
that's an awfully generic attribute that could also be used for previous characterd like Cyrus

even so i still don't understand how does that makes "something different", the games are exactly the same only with more story to it

>>30963955
>SM references all regions
>and that's fine except if any reference is about gen 1
>then it:s pandering

I hope they remake Gen 1 again just to piss off autists like you

>>30963882
>Rogue One
>good

Found the D*sney shill. Take your socially sensitive female empowerment bullshit where it belongs.
>>>/trash/

>>30965180
>the literal antithesis of Gen 5.
How so? There's a lot of influential stuff from Gen 5. For example SM's trial captains are pretty much the natural evolution Gen 5's attempts to make the gym leaders more relevant by giving them jobs and stuff.

>>30965419
Maybe morally Grey?

>>30965425
Sure it references all regions but when the ratio of references is five Kanto to 1 of anything else then there's a problem.

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>>30965443
>Praising rogue one but trashing TFA means you're a shill

>>30965376
>banks too hard on nostalgia
It's literally a new hope

>>30965450
Not to mention they retained the GL and changed Pass Powers to O-powers.
Then there's the Plaza which is a knock off join avenue.

In fact the only way they can be considered the anti-thesis is in terms of gen one pandering.

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>>30965376
>TFA at least was a fun movie

Ive never seen a star wars movie

>>30964932
>it's a prequel to something we already know happens
That's literally the point of a prequel you mongoloid.

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>>30965572
Good, if you ever watch them avoid any made after 1983.

>>30965572

For you, big guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYIP9lpHP0A

>>30965376
>TFA
>fun

>>30965376
theyre both prequel tier

>>30967385
So good?
ROTS was pure kino.

>>30965721
I wish I could unsee this and watch it again for the first time

>>30965492
>no one understands this
>instead they continue to blindly praise sun and moon
this fandom has reached a new level of stupidity and ignorance.

>>30964063
SM should be Episode 1 for being the worst overall. Cancerous SM humor is a reflection of Jar Jar.

>>30963882
So Gen V is the prequels, then.
>accelerated and creative yet poorly executed ideas
>contributed more to the longevity of the franchise than anything preceding or succeeding it
>the final installment mildly redeemed the entire package
>an imperfect segway into the soulless pandering which followed
>a single character carries the whole thing singlehandedly

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>>30963882
>SM
>minimal

Where do you do standup, cause you're one funny dude?

>>30969002
Send email

>>30968881
>older characters being the main focus

Not really

>>30963882
>minimal but effective use of references/nostalgia
Is this a fucking joke?

XY introduced megas for other gens, especially unpopular Pokemon, like Banette and Mawile, and Kanto is barely mentioned. The similar things (Viridian forest, Snorlax) are minimal and never said to be from glorious Kanto nation.

Meanwhile, SM keeps going on and on about Kanto. Oh, we arrived from Kanto! Oh, Kanto is so far XDD hey look at this Pokemon, its the same but it's also different from Kanto :oooo hey I've competed in Kanto! I want to have a league just like Kanto!! Bye thanks for all the babysitting I'm going to Kanto XD Kanto Kanto Kanto Kanto Kanto

>>30971727
because even the younger generation of pokemon fans like kanto over your shitty mega digivolve mechanics you butthurt fag

>>30963882
who is k2so in SM.
basically the only character i cared in the movie and bothered to remember the name?

>>30972111
Hau the slightly extendible somewhat useful side memeber

He was a G

>>30963934
>SM has a small but memorable Charizard cameo

Being a Ride Pokemon is not small.

>>30971819
Megas are a benefit to the franchise and GF will never remove them. But stay mad, manlet cuck.

>>30971819
LOL
The younger generation ate the mega evolution and begged for more. The younger generation doesn't gives a shit for Kanto.

I'm sure that a 13yo is relieved to know that his character came from Kanto.

>>30971819
>even the younger generation of pokemon fans like kanto over your shitty mega digivolve
Leave your basement once in a while.

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>>30972227
>>30972261
>>30972692
>kalosperm internet defense force
stay delusional niggers

>>30972774
Kids loved XY. Stay delusional.

>>30964397
saying the prequels are bad is bait now? how the times have changed...

>>30964063
What about R/S/E