Will it still regain it's place in uber or does it fall

>>30959975

Uber because Smogon allows transfers and it can still wreck shit due to 2x Seismic Toss (200HP, good enough to 2HKO pretty much everything).

>>30960090
Yep, the stupid seismic toss wishpass set isn't hurt at all. The Power-up Punch sweeping sets are weaker now, but honestly having it's damage reduced by 1/6th isn't a huge nerf.

>>30960090
Why Smogon allows transfers boggles my mind.

Another reason why Smogon is a shit.

>>30960159

I like it more than just pretending Gen 3-5/6 didn't happen like GameFreak is.

>>30960175
It's not Gen 7 then. It's all gens. They should be two separate things.

>>30960221
They just let you use all the pokemon's resources as long as it's in a legal combination.

>>30960221

That's bad how? I don't like the genies of healthy meta either, but having just the slowest meta shitfest of Alola plus the Kanto circlejerk gets old fast.

>>30960175
One of their primary goals is to make it reasonably easy for new players to start VGC. A lot of random gen 3 events / Gale of Darkness mons / old tutors would be competitively relevant if allowed, forcing new players to either hack or fuck off.

>>30960272

That's true, but they could fix it by just re-releasing them.
Many of the regular tutor moves could be added as egg moves or 3rd game tutor moves. XD could be rereleased in some capacity.

The relevant tutor moves could basically be counted on one hand.