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>TPP has already completed Prism and may be the only ones

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>TPP has already completed Prism and may be the only ones to do

https://youtu.be/qA_esqfr65Q

How does this make you feel
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I want to hug Miller!
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>Some romhack gets DMCA'd
Why am I supposed to care?
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>>30932996
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>>30932996
Because it's been ready for months and the release date was Christmas and got taken down 5 days before it was supposed to be released
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>>30932996
because there was no actual reason for it to be taken down other than it probably hints at SM version 3's name
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>>30932996
Source? I googled it but found nothing.
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Welp, time for another thread of falseflaggers, Nintendo Defense Force Posters and people shitting on KBM for no reason other than to make it seem like he was literally Hitler.
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>>30932690
Literally like going to Nintendo's headquarters for some Allahu Akbar.
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>>30933059
Pokémon Prism Facebook
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>>30932981
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>>30932690
>this gets taken down
>but showdowns still around
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>>30933129
Because the guys who run Showdown are at least smart enough not to whore it around big gaming sites.
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>>30933074
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>>30933192
But they didn't whore it to gaming sites. The gaming sites found it and reported it themselves.
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>>30934279
The gaming site is Twitch and I doubt they played Prism without the creators permission.
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Literally why even live, Anons? Seriously, why?
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At this point the best thing to do is burn other branches of the fanbase, report en masse the Essentials games like Reborn and Rejuvenation, since those are honestly harmful to the Pokemon name
Also, who was responsible for the c&d? Nintendo proper, the US office or something else?
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>>30932690
>waifu team
Disgusting.
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Ok, considering the fact that Sage is soon getting a new demo release, already has a wiki and now a new Twitter, is it in danger ? Cause once that demo drops, every youtuber will be on it.
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>>30934327
By gaming sites I thought you meant Kotaku
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>>30934341
Based on the C&D it was some management firm named Addisons the ones that sent the letter.

>>30934356
Probably. If it ends up on the main page of something like Kotaku or Polygon then it's pretty much guaranteed.
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>>30934351
Waifu team with an aesthetically pleasing green-yellow-brown color gradient after the shiny glitch.
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>>30933129
normies don't care about competitive battling. Showdown isn't the "true Pokemon experience" the average joe buying Pokemon games is looking for. So it doesn't really impact sales

Prism and Uranium and whathaveyou all play like real pokemon games so of course Nintendo is going to go after them
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>>30932690
No one really cares about fan shit right?
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>>30933068
Nintendo and KBM are both literally hitler, the only ones scott free here are TPP
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>>30934533
I do :(
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>>30934556
Faggot
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>>30934380
Then ask the firm to prove that they speak in Nintendo's name, it might be just copyright trolling
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>>30934687
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0f-_m_8on7BLVhuYnV2a2tuR3M/view
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>>30933044
Holy fug.
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WHY THE FUCK DID HE HAD TO DELAY IT

FUCK
FUCK

Yeah he can still "leak" it somewhere, but are you fucking expecting someone that decided to do that twitch cancer and delay it until christmas to be smart enough to do that?
holy just end me fampai
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>>30934726
It was meant to be a Christmas present
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>>30934733
>Christmas present

oh shit now I have officially no Christmas gift this year

>post yfw nintendo stole Christmas from your pathetic virgin life
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>Hyping up your fangame when Nintendo's trying to sell the real thing
>Doesn't expect to get a C&D
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>>30934744
he really didn't

i would have just released it anyway
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>people actually care about shitty fangames
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>>30934767
>shitty

If you think that brown was shitty then why the fuck are you in /vp/ if you hate pokemon this hard?
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>>30934764
His overconfidence only makes it more ironic honestly.
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>>30934774
>If you don't like what I like you're not a real fan!
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>>30934776
He didn't say it was impossible, he just said it was unlikely due to the evidence.
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>>30934785
>I only like official nintendo products like XY and ORAS!

See, I can talk like an autist too. Brown was fucking amazing and it could very well be a third pokemon game in the GBC era. If you can't appreciate it then you obviously never played it or hated the GBC games because shit taste
It's genuinely not another generic fangame
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>>30934838
Opinions are subjective
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>Finish fangame
>Delay it when he could have released it ages ago
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>>30934855
XY and ORAS are objectively shit though.
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>>30934865
When the fuck did I mention XY/ORAS?
Stop moving the goalposts
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>>30933029
>Not learning after that Metroid 2 fangame scenario

He deserved it
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>>30934865
When did he say that he even liked those games??
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>>30934879
>>30934921
>HURR OPINIONS ARE SUBJECTIVE
>when there are objectively shit opinions
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>>30934928
>Being this buttmad
Reiterating an opinion doesn't make it right
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there is obviously a subgroup of people that like romhacks. There is a whole general for it. Antagonising isn't helping anything except make /vp/ more like /v/
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>>30934928
You keep going on about how one guy likes the gen 6 games when they said nothing pointing to that fact.

And I agree that 99% of fan games are utter trash. Then there's like a million Facebook and ios/android rip offs now.

Pokemania is at the highest it's been in about 15 years. They gotta do what they can to protect the product and get all the cash possible.

Never played brown myself.
And while I love the GB era games. They are pretty broken and i see no need to play them aside from nostalgic purposes when we have FR/LG
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>>30935011
>They gotta do what they can to protect the product and get all the cash possible.
https://sirtaptap.com/2016/08/fan-projects-not-threaten-copyright-protections/

Educate yourself
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>>30935046
I think what they're more worried about is losing potential customers.
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>People actually think its getting taken down
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>>30935870
It is. We might get a leak from any of tne various prerelease players, but there won't be an official release and the whole thing will have to be kept under wraps or we'll all get fucked in the ass.
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>>30935870
Also Adam (Coolboy, a.k.a the creator of the Rijon Hacks) himself stated that the game was officially canceled on his twitter, or at least that is what's being said on PokeCommunity.
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>sega hires the two actually talented fangame makers and turns their passion into an actualy job that might save the sonic franchise from total collapse
>nintendo DMCA's the shit out of the only somewhat decent fan projects that get some publicity while letting all the edgy 12 years-old fanfic tier garbage is safe
I'm not one of those that think the fan know pokemon better than GameFreak (because, well, they don't) but this nazi behaviour is just stupid and hurts their image more than keeping it safe and clean.
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So it's safe to say that basically every fan project of a Nintendo game is at least some amount of risk at this point. ESPECIALLY if they have any major form of publicity.

SMBX (and that was taken down BEFORE this year to boot)
AM2R
Uranium (bonus points for it getting a nomination at a best fangame festival shot down at their request)
Now Prism (although if the real reason it got C&D'd was because it turned out it was overlapping in name with S&M's third version then wow that just sucks)

The people making Rejuvenation and Reborn are probably already fucked and just don't know it yet, and the guys behind the Mother 4 stuff better make good on their plans to rename the game before they can get hit with a C&D as well.

Also, that 2016 is the worst year on record, but we already knew that.
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>>30936183
>yfw Mother 4 gets DMCA'd by the Nintendo Ninjas
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I think Nintendo has a fetish for ruining fan projects
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>>30936225
Uranium made money from ads & Patreon.
Prism made money from ads & Twitch.
That's why they were taken down.
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>>30936244
I really REALLY hope that it goes past Nintendo's DMCA nazis, especially since Mother's creator has given Mother 4 his blessings.
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>>30936277
What about AM2R?
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>>30936277
Doesn't explain AM2R though.
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>>30934741
Hey Goy, I know a better Christmas present; Super Mario Run! It's only 9.99 on the App store! What a low price for a quality game on a phone, right, Goy?
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Maybe if he didn't shill the romhack on twitch for 2~ months and just released it this wouldn't have happened.
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>>30936322
>yfw it has friend codes
>yfw it eats up tons of data
>yfw they have no plans of updating it
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>>30936278
>Believing that Nintendo will let that slide
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>>30936322
I'm not going to buy a WiiU so I'll get it.

>APPLE

Oh, never mind Nintendo can die in a fire.
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>>30932996
Wait, it got DMCA'd?

FFFFFUUUUCK MANNNN

WHY WHY WHY WHYYY
I was so fucking hyped for this, man. Literally fucking why.
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>>30934710
So, the biggest problem was that he failed to telegraph enough that those are fangames and have nothing to do with official releases (as well as allowing them to get a hold of his personal info, seriously man).
Now, since he's already sent a few people copies, all the takedowns he's told to do will affect only him, as the Prism .isp file and the others can circulate without his actions and all he has to do is act as if he's outraged by it. (3 is supposed to force him to stop this, but what is he gonna do, shut down Google Drive?)
In fact, assuming rijon wasn't supposed to make profit, the worst clause is 5, effectively forbidding him from creating any other content (1 can be bypassed by 3rd party patches and tweaks should bugs occur).
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>>30934533
The fan shit is better than anything GameFreak's shit out in decades.
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>>30936398
Uranium's existence says otherwise.
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>>30936421
Nobody's talking about Uranium, Uranium was fucking shit. Brown and Prism went beyond just ROM hacking.
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>>30936398
only very few notable exceptions, of which prism was probably the only one to be finished and released in our lifetime. Name me 5 complete and playable fan-games that could even pass a real pokemon game.
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Dammit Nintendo, why take down a rom hack of a FUCKING ALMOST 20 YEARS OLD GAME!
A FUCKING 20 YEARS OLD GAME!
IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO MAKE SM SALES DROP YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!
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>>30936225
pretty sure "takedown" of smbx was just a ploy so its creators could fuck off to doing original things
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Why do so many people blindly defend Nintendo on stuff like this?
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>>30936567
they're desperate
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>>30936567
Contrarianism is the easiest way to get replies.
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>>30936599
dubs of truth
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>>30936496
I didn't buy SM because I was going to play Prism instead. Now I'm simply going to pirate SM, so I mean the japjews still aren't getting my money I guess.
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>8 years
>96 months
>2922 days
>70128 hours
All this time spent on some shitty fangame that ultimately gets taken down, instead of creating something fresh and new.
At least I don't feel like I've wasted my life anymore.
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>>30936244
Nope, it's literally impossible for them to try that. Itoi shares the copyright with Nintendo and he gave the game his blessings. Thankfully, he'll never decide to take the project down because he wants to actually play the game.

If Nintendo wanted to try anything, they would have to run it past him.
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>>30936758
yew
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>>30934687
>Nintendo doing ANYTHING against Pokemon Sage when the /r9k/ mass murderer got away and the fact that /pol/ exists
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>>30936810
>Itoi gave the game

He never did, stop this meme. He said in interviews that he's open to the idea of Mother 4 being created by fans, but has never once spoken of the project itself. Considering how little he's involved in the video game scene, I doubt he knows much.
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>>30932690
What the fuck
He dedicated a lot of his time on it, 8 years is not a short period of time. Nintendo needs a taste of the High Orbit Ion Cannon (jk)
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>>30936861
>/rk9/ mass murderer
....what ? Yeah newfag, wathever.
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>>30936183
>Despite numerous trailers and public updates, Mother 4 hasn't received a single C&D (them barely even fucking working on the game notwithstanding) because Itoi said it was cool for fans to continue the legacy of the series
>Meanwhile Sega takes down Phantasy Star Online fanmade servers intended to continue the game's lifespan, and takes down the fanmade Streets of Rage Remake that would have revived interest in the series

Also
>that might save the sonic franchise from total collapse
this is where your opinion gets discarded
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>>30936866
He said he wanted to be the player the next time a Mother game came out plus what you said about him being open to letting the fans make the next game in the series.

That's pretty much giving his blessings to any and all fan projects, including Mother 4.
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>>30936921
Not to mention the fact that Lurantis casually LEAKED SM ROMS EARLY
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>>30936921
Yeah, you are a fucking newfag.
One of the numerous shootings this year was done immediately following a post from the perpetrator on /r9k/. That's one of 4chan's boards. One of its worst boards. Like /b/ but even more retarded.
The post he made spawned into a meme: "Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to [X] tomorrow."
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>>30936930
>>30936941
Yet, just to be absolutely safe, Mother 4 is going to be changing the game's name because they're THAT worried about the autistic fuckwipes that are Nintendo's Lawyers.
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>>30936974
And /b/ is still filled with CP and probably under FBI investigation.
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Educate yourselves.
https://youtu.be/dGlnKvjLFOs
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>>30936980
>Doing your job makes you an autistic fuckwipe
>making millions of dollars a year thanks to your job makes you an autistic fuckwipe
Play Ace Attorney then pass the bar exam nigga, it's the best way to get rich quick
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>>30936977
So that's from where that meme came from. I mean I knew it probably had to do with a possible shooting, but holly fuck. And is /r9k/ really worse then /b/ ? I know /b/ was the sole culprit for 4chan's "EPIC HACKER AND MASS MERDERER SITE ! DEEP WEB SHIT !" meme that happened long ago.
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>>30937008
>Buckley

You couldn't pay me to watch this.
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>>30937040
All you need to know is that you can share whatever you like on 4chan with zero repercussions. Like manga scans, translations and amazing early leaked pokemon SM roms, 4chan is an amazing place to download things but stay off the shitty boards.
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WHY DIDN'T HE JUST RELEASE IT EARLY

HOLY FUCK I MAD
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>>30936567
/v/ fanboys obsessed with winning over the other console fanboys, even though in the rest of the boards nobody cares their minds are already used to that way of thinking.
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>making a fangame when you know the company who made the original series is known for handing out DMCA's like they're party favours

They deserved everything they got, who gives a fuck if they spent eight years on it?
You think Nintendo should let this one slide because of the time they invested in it?
Don't be retarded.

>stop being a nintendrone by defending this practice of theirs
I'm not. I would rather Nintendo leave fangames alone.
But they don't, they never have and never will.
It's there right to do so and I'm defending their right to do that.
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>>30934764
Strictly speaking, he's not doing anything illegal. Nintendo's lawyers are overreaching because he made a big fanfare out of it and made it sound like he was releasing a full game.

If romhacks are illegal, then why is romhacking.net still up?
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>>30937117
>>is known for handing out DMCA's like they're party favors
Wooooow, how was I supposed to know in about eight years down the line Nintendo's Lawyers would start shutting down literally everything related to their IPs? This is bullshit!
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>tfw been waiting 8 years for this

I wish I had the balls to do something about it. I'm praying with all my heart that it leaks.
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>>30937008
rom patches don't fall under this, and even if that's true, it's never actually gone to court, everyone just fucking folds when they get a dmca.
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>>30936941
Itoi saying "I don't mind people making their own Mother 4" isn't the same as Itoi "giving his blessings" to the current M4 team and will go out of his way to stop Nintendo from sending a C&D. Do not base your hopes on your wishful thinking.
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>>30937067
Can't handle being called out?
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>>30937075
Yeah, it would be a shame to Nintetndo if someone posted the Prism rom here. A real shame.
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They had 8 years to send a C&D. They probably only sent one now because of Necrosma and the third version of Sun and Moon. At this point, the only things that deserve a third version are Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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>>30937137
>>30937137
>how was I supposed to know
Oh I don't know how about seeing fan uproars and newsites reporting on shit like:
-Pokénet
-Super Mario 64 HD Remake
-Zelda Maker
-Full Screen Mario
-Zelda 30 Tribute
-AM2R
-Pokémon Uranium
-Super Mario Bros X
-The Legend of Zelda: The Hero of Time Movie
-The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time 2D
-Zelda Anime (Zeldamotion)
-Super Mario Bros Z Patreon
-Star Fox the Animated Series
-Project M
-Super Mario Fusion Revival
-No Mario’s Sky

The list goes on.
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>Pokemon/Nintendo DMCAs a ROM.
>They don't DMCA the simulator, which is a bigger offender.

Gee lawyers, you have one job. Just do it.
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>>30937266
I assume that by simulator you mean emulator.
They can't take that down because unless it's using copyrighted code it's not illegal.
Same way BitTorrent is not illegal, but torrenting pirated content is.
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>>30937291
he's talking about showdown, the (battle) simulator
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>>30937266
Yeah, good luck DMCAing an emulator when it isn't doing anything wrong in the first place until you bring in ROMs unless it has copyrighted code in it.
That's like trying to recall a VHS Player because it can record new content onto tapes.
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>>30937291
Showdown.
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>>30937291
no you neanderthal he's talking about Showdown
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>>30937305
Never mind, I'm retarded.
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>>30937291
>>30937304
>>30937306
>>30937309
Oh man, can you imagine the amount of asshurt that would cause?
Would be fucking amazing to witness.
Kind of want it to happen now desu.
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>>30937291
>>30937305
I wish this was samefag but the timestamps won't allow for it. I really wish people weren't this fucking stupid to think that he meant 'emulator'. Holy shit.
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>>30937232
>At this point, the only things that deserve a third version are Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Underrated post.
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>>30937309
>>30937306
>>30937304

Should've fucking specified then. If Showdown hasn't been taken down yet is because you don't see Showdown videos with millions of views, and there aren't articles about it on sites like Kotaku or Polygon.

If Showdown suddenly had articles on these sites tomorrow you bet Nintendo would send their copyright ninjas after it.

The key is staying off the radar, and that's what all these fan game makers don't understand.
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At least one other person has the ROM.
Keizaron on twitch was playing it.

One day all these fan projects will stop flying on the radar by using the names.
Just call it "Prism" and tell Nintendo to fuck themselves over IPs.
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>>30937321
It won't happen. Unlike Prism, Uranium and the like, Showdown is just a battle simulator built by competitive autists, for competitive autists, which in itself deters normies, LPers and most news outlets away.
Uranium and Prism are full-fledged fangames that actually have something new to offer, regardless of quality, and inevitably will attract attention because they're dropping trailers and having pre-release streams like it won't hurt them in the future.
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>>30937321
They can keep their forums. They can keep the Team Builder (which I fucking love it), but shut down the battle simulator since it clearly violates more than anything a hackrom does.
>>30937339
They're way inside the radar the moment pros reference them constantly. Heck, the VGC World Champion just analyzed his last team using Showdown to show stats, moves and all that jazz.
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>>30937339
everyone knew that he was talking about showdown you dumbass, you had 3 different anons correcting you within 2 minutes
you goofed and you know it
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>>30937353
I wonder how Sage will cope with all of this condidering the attention it will get once the new demo drops amd since there's a new Sage Twitter. Let's just hope the devs aren't incompetent.
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>>30937367
I don't give a shit. I've gotten used to seeing so many typos.
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>>30937379
They're definitely going to get fucked unless they announce a delay in order to actually finish the game and go silent until that day comes.
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>>30937379
Sage will be fine, who do they send the CnD to? Anon?
>Let's just hope the devs aren't incompetent.
Oh no
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>>30932996
That's probably all they (Nintendo) can do.

So just release it to the community who will shitpost it on every file host ever and let Nintendo worry about it.
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>>30937351
How much money do I have to give that faggot for him to leak it?
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>>30932996
That letter was so full of Grammer mistakes that I have to believe it's someone trying to fuck with the creators.
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>>30937420
Dunno, just saying it's out there and there are several ways to get it around "anonymously" without the creator's involvement (assuming the claim is legit).

Once it's out there Nintendo can't do shit about it. You'd think by now, especially given Nintendo's recent showing, the community would release shit sooner rather than later to avoid the legal mumbo jumbo out of thin air.
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>>30937379
Cancel the demo and don't say a peep about release dates until the full version is complete and you've already uploaded it

Part of the reason why this happened was because Nintendo was given a 3 month heads up
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>>30937427
That fifth bullet point at the end is vague as fuck
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>>30937491
I guess that's it. See you all in 2030, hopefully by then they finished the game.
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Pokemon Prism Near Complete Build 1/29/16

https://mega.nz/#!PY4SlAAC!0f-NRX0twuhBSxFiXepbWdEPyE-qhszlw3Vj33pHiLM
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>>30937504
It's just legal jargon for "Stop making fangames featuring our IP"
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>>30932690
>Nintendo uses the stream to garner only popular reception of the pokemon franchise for FUCKING FREE
>As soon as it's time to deliver Nintendo takes action
Jew tactics at its finest.

I'm surprised TPP hasn't been shut down at all yet.
And before you say Nintendo couldn't react in time, there was a countdown way in advance.
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Good riddance, he took all this advertising and didn't release the game already. It was done and he kept pushing it up to get publicity and fame. The worse, after this shitty email the pathetic retard that spent years on this shit just takes it all down without any sort of retaliation by leaking the game and is simply going to disappear
A person like this deserves nothing but mediocrity in it's life. I will never give shitendo any money after this but I'm happy they fucked him up.
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>>30937232
>At this point, the only things that deserve a third version are Hiroshima and Nagasaki
holy fuck
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>>30937557
don't download it makes mustard gas
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>N-Nintendo is just mad that fans could actually make a GOOD game! They're just jealous!

If you believe this, congratulations, you're retarded.
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>>30937557
>1/29/2016
>near complete

Doubt it.
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>>30937563
t. autist
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>>30937609
t. nintendo
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>>30937647
>>30937657
t. t.
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>>30937647
>>30937657
How to win an arguement
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>>30937557
>January
Doubt it considering this is before TPP's Dev Team helped him moving everything to Crystal, but fuck, maybe it'll be longer than the last beta which dropped off somewhere around that one haunted mansion-type area.
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>>30937677
Says the guy calling the opposition retarded?
It was over before it started.
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>>30932690
looks like a good game
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>>30937687
Then why bother giving such a pathetic response?
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>>30937723
Because that's all the person deserves, if not nothing.
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>>30937647
>>30937657
great discussion anons, I applaud you
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Better idea:
>Announce release date several months in advance
>Get C&D/DMCA
>Release date still comes
>Surprise it was available since the original announcement: (random filehost links)
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>>30937737
Honestly nothing would've been better.
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>>30937751
Too bad the letter is including shit retroactively like Pokemon Brown, and apparently the entire website.

Because just talking about it (the romhack) while not providing it is also too much.
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>>30937565
He's right though.
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>>30937771
Must be when the "offender" can't put up a defense and cracks under pressure.

What needs to happen is the game is released in several multi-part archives.
Useless individually but combined result in the entire game.
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>>30937563
There's so many ways he could ignore jewtendo and get away with it, fucking cuck
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Uses game codes, whines about not allowing to use intellectual property.

Video game fans are bad as wrestling fans.
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>>30937232
>At this point, the only things that deserve a third version are Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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>>30937232
Nothing gets me quite like a good A-bomb joke.
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>>30937176
No, Nintendo CAN'T send a Cease and Desist because they don't fully own the rights to the product. Without Itoi's approval, they legally can't do anything.
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>>30937232
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>>30937232
Nice.
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>>30932996
>>30934602
>waaaaah not muh uranium
Hang yourself hoennbabbies
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>>30937232
This
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/11/trademark-law-does-not-require-companies-tirelessly-censor-internet
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>>30936599
No it isn't.
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What exactly is wrong with distributing it as an IPS file?
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>>30938382
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>>30938382
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>>30938400
It's 2016, xDelta.
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>>30935011
>They gotta do what they can to protect the product and get all the cash possible.
hello armchairfaggot
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Sorry if this sounds like i'm a complete autist, but how likely is it that he'll just say fuck it and dump it online in a bunch of places?
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>>30938546
Him directly? Not likely. Things suddenly and inexplicably being handed off to others who "unintentionally" leak it to the internet? Probably more likely.
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>>30938588
As long as it happens.

At this point I don't even care if it's a huge ruse and it's still secretly slated for Christmas.
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Download link where?
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>>30938655
People are giving KBM a lot of shit for being a pussy and meeting Nintendo's demands but honestly, people already have it and KBM knows that. The game will get leaked and KBM doesn't have to do anything to make it happen. Honestly the game would get less notoriety if Nintendo had just left it alone.
He is still totally weak for shutting down his website though.
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>tpp's battle revolution matches have prism tracks

The silent protest
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What's TPP?
>ib4 The Phantom Pain
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>>30938703
I think it's more people are just mad in general because this is the third or fourth time this year alone that Nintendo has pulled this shit. It never fucking works because once something is on the Internet it never gets pulled off entirely but now there's this extra wait attached to it going up and that's annoying.
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>>30938743
>not knowing what TPP is
>in 2016
it's twitch plays pokemon
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How strong of a case could someone that got DMCA'd by Nintendo make in court?
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>>30938743
trans-pacific partnership
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>>30938756
Very strong.

Especially if they tip toe through loopholes before the fact, like patch files instead of a pre-patched ROM.
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>>30938747
Holy shit, that thing is still going on?
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>>30938756
Case would get thrown out of court.
inb4 nintendrone
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>>30938743
>>30938752
>>30938758
Amazing how TPP manages to be 3 complete shit things at once
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>>30938747
It might actually drop before Christmas now because of the takedown, funnily enough.
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Is there any soundtrack of the game released? I want to hear the route 209 remix in high quality but the only recording of it I've found is from TPP so there's a lot of sound effects in it
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>>30938756
Very hard to say with big copreration laywers

It's a patch for an already released game in a non profit group

They aren't releasing assets, they're essentially realeasing a updating a Game Boy Color game
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>>30938362
it's funny because the letter is either fake (he spells it 'Trade Mark' and 'FaceBook') or it's written by a complete idiot. but then again, copyright people are complete idiots devoid of humanity. i shouldn't even call them people.
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If anything he's lucky he wasn't sued outright for posting images of already existing pokémon and the name.
Funny how this never gets mentioned but some shitty fangame is.
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>>30934764
He's right, though.
Legally he can tell them to fuck off, and they can't really do anything to him without looking prejudiced.

They can only start fucking with him if they essentially declare war on all romhacks, or he can say "Okay, why MY romhack, then?" and get away scott free in court. Wouldn't even have to hire a lawyer.
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>>30939027
We need to revive Pokemon Quartz
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>>30939053
what we need to do is constantly report every single thing we can to nintendo's legal team so that they start taking EVERYTHING down. this will piss everyone off and perhaps then the literal demons will be fired or killed like they deserve.
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>>30934533
Evidently, Nintendo does.
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>>30936278
Nintendo > Shigetsu Itoi's Pro-Netural stance on Mother 4

they'll shut it out some day

>yfw devs go do Undertale 2 in return
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>>30939064
report showdown
:^)
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>>30938382
>what is CodyCoyote64
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To our dearest fans,

Merry Christmas.

Much love,
Nintendo
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>>30939248
oh I plan to. I'm going to put a very large amount of effort into researching C&Ds and documenting targeted data to send to their legal team. I want everyone to be angry at Nintendo, for they are demons and deserve nothing but fire.
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>>30938966
Nintendo is fucking stupid and hates any fan-made content of any kind.

Nintendo Fan Conventions and shit have to jump through so many godamn legal hoops just to even have a chance to function, and Nintendo can STILL just come in and say "Nice convention. Shut it down. Also pay us loads of money. We'll see you in court."

Very few other AAA companies do shit like this, and Nintendo is a household name.

>>30939064
Nah, a C&D on Showderp would just result in them going the way of Dueling Network: First they'd just pull images of all pokemon and items, as well as any revenue methods, then they'd gradually break down over time.
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>>30939305
Dueling Network fucking died
t. /dng/
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>>30939261
/v/ gotten so shit, this faggot actually post there daily

jesus chirst
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>>30939339
Did it literally, figuratively, and metaphorically die?
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>>30939374
The site was taken down by NAS but it probably was just Konami
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>>30936866
>but has never once spoken of the project itself.
he actually did
see >>30939222

also, there's this:
https://youtu.be/jGvIucQzUtQ?t=2201
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>>30938382
I see what you did there, good job.
Have this (You) for the effort.
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reminder the only romhack Nintendo ever gave a free pass on was the Mother 3 Fan Translation by Tomato

the translation team actually went to NoA and proposed the translation to Nintendo via Treehouse
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>>30932690
What the fuck is up with that stream layout
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>>30939449
everyone see these as well >>30939430 >>30939222
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>>30939222
>>yfw devs go do Undertale 2 in return
i really don't like Undertale outside the music

but after how much /v/ shitposting it caused, i think it wouldn't be so bad for Toby Fox to cause another shitstorm again
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>>30937232
Jeesus Kristus, I haven't laughed like this in weeks.
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>>30939508
Fairly sure Toby Fox said his opinion on the matter and he was like "okay i did not expect Undertale to explode like it did."
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>>30939545
he actually predicted how /v/ will shitpost to hell many weeks later and so forth the entire internet.
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>>30939574
because after FNAF, it's really not so hard predict the things /v/ will do another indie game that isn't on eShop.
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>>30937232
I NEED A DRINK
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>>30939508
Game itself is ok, there are games with a far better karma system and story though. It's more character involved than plot involved, that is really the only difference that has from other RPGs. Only major positive draw it has is the bullet board system.
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>>30934533
Sigma gold is pretty good. Better than kalos and oras desu.
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>>30938966
Nah, that costs more money than Nintendo would realistically get out of it. They have to prove damages as well.

The reason they send these letters instead of suing is because it's a cheap and easy way to intimidate fan projects without taking them to court and potentially losing a legal battle that would set negative precedent.
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>>30938966
That's because that's misrepresented as fuck and was ACTUALLY a bar hosting a Pokemon-themed event night for profit.
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>>30933044
What about Uranium then?
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>>30939900
So as soon as someone calls Nintendo's bullshit bluff it's smooth sailing.

Can't wait.
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Fan games are utter crap though.
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who cares about shitty fangames? they all suck
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>>30936244
>Coming fourth quarter 2014!
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>>30940875
>>30940876
how do you know it's shit it isn't even out yet
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Why do people still like Nintendo?
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one thing i hate about fangame shutdowns is that autistic nintendo retards will grasp straws over if the next coming game is related to the shut down.

>thinking they'll bother with another 2D Metroid with Superfags existing
also, Zero Mission sold like fucking shit
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>>30940412
nothing because that anon's just another nintendo shill courting all complaints and converting it into baseless delusions
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>>30940976
beaten housewife syndrome
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battered_person_syndrome
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Why does Red look so fucking awful here?
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>>30940976
Autists think they owe their life to a corporation because it made them feel secure with escapism.
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>>30941073
Cuz he's in a shitty fangame that nobody cared about until the evil JEWtendo corporation shit it down. Just like the turd that was that metroid 2 remake.
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>implying this isn't one final push of publicity before the release

See y'all on christmas
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>>30941199
One hell of a publicity stunt to nuke the website and tell everyone there won't be a game.

It's over. That mega link in this thread is the closest you'll get to a full release
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>>30941073
Red wasn't even a part of the game.

>>30941190
And that's why it got a lot of fame on TPP, YT and different communities, because nobody cared about it and it's super logic. /s
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>>30937232
kek, good one anon
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>>30937232
good shit
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>>30941265
>gosh darn it nintendo ruined christmas
>prism releases
>CHRISTMAS IS SAVED AND STILL FUCK NINTENDO

It's gonna happen
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>>30941190
>nobody cared

There's been shitloads of topics about this game today. And before of that, it was usually discussed in the rom hacking general with people always whining on how the guy keeps delaying his hack. You're just the typical faggot that doesn't care about romhacks.
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>>30936450
Brown isn't that great of a hack, honestly.

It was amazing FOR ITS TIME of course, but that time was more than a decade ago and its age does show. The game is pretty much just a rearranged RBY due to the limitations of the era and KBM needing to alter existing content in a way that makes it look new-ish.

It's still fun to play despite this, but it didn't age that well when you display it next to newer ROMhacks.
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>>30936450
it boggles my mind how bad Uranium was
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>>30937232
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>>30941598
>falling for contrarian bait
autism
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>>30941073
Because it's a fan version of manga red instead of official Red
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>>30941629
>it boggles my mind how bad Uranium was
reminder
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>>30937232
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So what happened here, exactly?

A guy makes a ROM hack called Prism over the last 8 years, Nintendo does nothing about it, and then 5 days before its release it gets shut down because "Pokemon Prism" is a likely contender for the title of the next Pokemon game that'll be released?
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TPP is still alive?. i stoped watching in emerald
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>>30941732
No, it's more like after the thing got a million views on youtube and a confirmed release date nintendo stepped in.

It has nothing to do with the future game names at all, but how it piggybacks off the existing name.
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>>30941760

they literally haven't stopped since it first got popular and still have a small community on reddit. Also the streamer who started it all turned out to be literally mentally insane
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>>30937266
Probably because Nint/GF know that most Showdown players are raging "le inject it xd" fags and it keeps a good portion of them out of the game
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>>30941760
It's still going but it's not fun anymore because it's overrun with bots
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>>30941732
No it's because theyre using Nintendo's IP.
They're overly protective of their brand name and it only got insanely popular recently.
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If you want to make a fangame, thats fine. But dont get mad when you get DMCA'd because what you're doing is illegal.

Like, why dont they learn? Sure, make your game. Let people play it. But stop building up so much hype and acting like you're entitled to it when you're using someone elses IP. Wait until the game is actually fucking finished before you start your advertising campaigns and getting people to suck your dick, if its already released there's nothing they can do it about it.
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Is anyone gonna post sauce for download of the current build or nah
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http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ROM_hacks#History

What did bulbashill mean by this?
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>>30941732
Sees like a Nintendo trend to C&D fanprojects the week before release. Same shit with the metroid2 remake, years of work to stop it the same week it released.

Gald i could got it
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>>30941800
Said reddit community is full of autistics who comprise of a terrible merge of reddit and twitch culture.
Don't consider joining them. Last I remember the twitch chat actually ended up raiding a /vp/ thread that was only meant to advertise themselves but they got mad when /vp/ spoke badly of them.
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>>30941846
> Fan games are illegal meme
Stop it
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>>30941846
The guy's an idiot. He believed that it could never happen to him because he'd never seen Nintendo take down a rom hack, xo instead of releasing it when he said he would after TPP finished it, he chose to make people wait and let it get hyped up, including making a trailer for it that he somehow thought wouldn't get a million views.
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What's the worst thing Nintendo has done in the last year?
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>>30941732
>guy is quiet underground hacker who never really hyped himself up
>creates most acclaimed R/B hack at the time "pokemon brown", his research in creating it led to the backbone of gen 1 hacking
>sequel is pokemon prism, which gets more hype as koolboyman's pokemon brown is already legendary among the hacking community

>for years and years it feels like the game will never get finished
>2014 was the last demo and it was only through 4 gyms (game had 16 gyms)
>2016 he decides to collaborate with Twitch plays pokemon, up until then he was working entirely on his own
>in exchange for their help in hacking, TPP gets exclusive access and will play first on their stream
>game suddenly gets finished hella fast, projected for december released
>TPP executive make trailer and hype it up on their stream
>youtube trailer gets posted and gets 1.5 million views
>twitch plays it on stream in october
>game is more hyped than it ever was in its entire lifetime
>game is done, but they don't release game in november because they don't want sun/moon to clash with their game so they can keep hyping it
>4 days before epic christmas release get C&D from nintendo

basically TPP ruined this, but also if it wasn't for them it would have never been finished
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Why are other companies completely okay with ROM hacks and mods for their games while Nintendo isn't? Look at Sega. They even hired some of the hack developers to work for them. Look at the Steam Workshop for any game you own. It's full of mods. Some even have a 'mod spotlight' or whatever.

Why can't Nintendo be like that? I get that Pokemon is a bigger IP so they need to be aggressive or whatever but what about that Metroid fan remake? Metroid hasn't been relevant in years. Neither has Pokemon Crystal.
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>>30941969
Taking down Prism
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>>30941969
Taking down fan stuff
They even taken down fan art of Wicke
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I will never, never, NEVER understand how people are so fucktarded EVERY SINGLE TIME.

That kind of project is always, invariably, UN-FUCKING-DOUBTABLY axed the second it garners too much attention, or as soon as it gets any kind of playable material out.

So what do they do?
Do they stay silent until it's ready?
Do they obscure the release date until they can release the complete version?
Do they put up the game before they can get a C&D, thus making it impossible to contain it?

No
NO
EVERY FUCKING GODDAMN TIME
THEY ACT LIKE RETARDS

WHY
HOW IS EVERYONE SO DUMB
It happens EVERY FUCKING TIME, HOW DO FAN-PROJECTS STILL NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO DO THIS SHIT
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>>30942006
Nigga what
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>>30942015
This one benefited from the idea that "it had no precedent" because it's a romhack.

Forgetting the Chrono trigger debaucle which is explained away by saying "that wasn't nintendo!"

But you can bet your ass this won't be the last time either and the creators will act just as surprised.
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>>30941599
>next to newer ROMhacks
like? Every other full-region romhack is complete dogshit.
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>laughed when uranium got axed
>Prism gets fucked too

I'M SORRY GUYS IT'S ALL MY FAULT
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>>30942015
He got too confident, honestly believing it could never happen to him.
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>>30942045
But that one leaked
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>>30942071
There's nothing saying this won't either. There are a lot of people who had access to some kind of TPP build for various reasons.
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>>30942015

I honestly believe if it was just one guy making games for fun it would have just been released like you said. The problem is too many people got involved in its creation >>30941988 and TPP as a group wanted to hype it up
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What's stopping him from dumping the raw assembly code somewhere with a completely unrelated title, then waiting for people to find it and compile it by the dozens?

I'd do that.
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>>30942109

That's what they should have done IN THE FIRST PLACE
But now they have a C&D, which means they'll never do that or they'd face horrible legal implications
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>>30933068
hold on, only a couple of days more
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Whats the chance of one of the TPP guys leaking it?
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>>30942109

because if the game appears in any form online they will know he or someone he's involved with leaked it and he will get in tons of trouble.

the only way this is getting leaked is if someone who happened to have an early release version of it goes rogue.
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dubs picks what fangame Nintendo will kill next
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>>30942094
I know. Sucks it got C&D'd but I guess at least it'll PROBABLY make its way out there.
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>>30942130
>they'd face horrible legal implications
They would already have them if Jewtendo dosen't fear losing in court
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>>30942156
Mother 4.
Wait, you said NEXT? Yeah, that wasn't coming for 10 years anyway.
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>>30942167

That's not how a C&D works at all
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>>30942156
Showdown
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>>30941306
>Red wasn't even a part of the game.
They mention him at the end of Brown hinting that he'd appear in Prism.

>>30942055
To give a Gen 1 example, Maize does a lot more than Brown and its last beta was still years ago. We haven't really seen any new region hacks since the Gen 1 disassembly got released but the possibilities there are limitless.

Speaking of, I'm really afraid Nintendo is going to C&D the disassemblies now. RB, Yellow, and Crystal's disassemblies are all more-or-less complete but the RS disassembly isn't nearly done.
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>>30942156
Clover
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>>30942156
Super Smash Flash 2
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>>30942167
The letter he got in the first place is just a threat, it's not a legal order or anything.

It's basically "stop doing this or we'll sue you and drag your ass to court". It even says "may be" in infringement.
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>>30936991
to be fair, /b/ is also investigating the government for CP too :^)

captcha was "Select all images with pizza"
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>>30942156
smash bros crusade
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>>30942205
I don't give a shit about that game anymore but damn, it would still hurt me
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>>30942156
Showdown
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>>30942226
Hi there!
You seem to have made a bit of a mistake in your post. Luckily, the users of 4chan are always willing to help you clear this problem right up! You appear to have used a tripcode when posting, but your identity has nothing at all to do with the conversation! Whoops! You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone, unless another one is started! Posting with a tripcode when it isn't necessary is poor form. You should always try to post anonymously, unless your identity is absolutely vital to the post that you're making!
Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bait to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
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>>30941969
>taking down fan games
>taking down fan made merchandise like plushes, figures, fan art, etc. while ebay and amazon are loaded with bootlegs from China
>letting Pokemon Go get launched as a completely unfinished game that looks like its still in alpha testing
>having Niantic, a company well known for shitty customer service, make Pokemon Go, the most hyped smartphone game of all time that uses Nintendo's biggest and most valuable IP whose image and reputation is something they're supposedly incredibly worried about damaging
>continue to abuse Genius Sonority by making them work on shitty pay2win games instead of making spin off games people actually want to play
>Paper Mario Color Splash
>DMCAing that Metroid fangame and fansite while continuing to ignore longtime Metroid fans
>hyping up the Nintendo Switch only to to have its specs be lackluster in every regard
>hyping up the Nintendo Classic Mini but keeping supply limited to create artificial demand
>not taking precautions when selling the NCM by limiting bulk buyers, scalers, and those in the retail arbitrage business

wow it's so hard to pick
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>>30942208

that's because they literally can't threaten someone with legal action because nothing illegal is being done. Doesn't mean a powerful company couldn't sue the shit out of a single person and destroy him financially if he tried to fight it.

Even if nintendo does absolutely nothing else, there's no doubt in my mind Koolboyman would be too scared to do anything anyway. he probably shit his pants when he saw the letter
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>>30942260
Is this a bot?
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>>30942296
You're a bot.
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>>30942336
b-bot senpai
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>>30942336
Does not compute
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>>30942295
He probably did shit his pants, especially since he is a game dev that aspires to work in the industry.

He could potentially ruin his entire career/life by making the wrong move. Poor guy.
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>>30942295
>destroy him financially if he tried to fight it.
Well "they" already threw 8 years of his life down the train.
And they're one upping themselves by retroactively including his old projects too.

Little guy is fucked either way.
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Question. Since he very likely got this through some sort of email, couldn't he have looked at the subject line, had a shred of foresight to know "OH SHIT THEY'RE COMING FOR ME", release everything and if asked just go "Oh I released it before reading your email, my bad"?
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Prism will be the third game of Gen 7 with Necrozma as the box legendary.
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>>30942374
>train
I have no idea how I accomplished that.
I'm supposed to be running the latest Google Botnet OS.

Remember me before I am terminated, fellow humans.
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>>30942363
That's what he gets for sticking his ass in the air and saying, "please c&d my game," rather than releasing it when he said he would in the goddamn first plave.
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>>30942380
Yeah he could, instead he went out like a pussy and took down all of his work. Fucking cuck, good riddance
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>>30942392
It fucking better be.
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>>30936183
unless Nintendo DMCAs every romhack made, they actually have no legal standing against rijon. even then, he's not actually releasing any copyrighted material to begin with, just the ips file with the differences.
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What could Nintendo do to become so hated that their fans finally wake up and stop supporting them?
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>>30942380
Then he would be found accountable still since it would seem suspicious he released the game on the same day the c&d was sent.
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>>30942392
As soon as Z and Gray release.
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>>30942439
Kill of all lewd fanart and fanfics
Kill of Showdown
Kill of /vp/
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>>30942439
Federation force

Anyone here that doesn't own an unhacked 3DS is retarded
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>>30942444
And? That's all lawyers are good for, stringing together shit into lies.

At least two external entities have access to the ROM: Twitch Plays Pokemon and Keizaron (twitch streamer).
Barring anybody else related to the development team he could "walk away" and the lawyers can suck his dick.
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>>30942439
Nothing. Some Nintendo fans are too far gone. There are people on /vp/ right now who are like that.
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>>30942439
Take down Showdown, porn and fanart, and videos talking about Nintendo, but even then you'll probably get some Nintendo apologists.
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>>30942463
Fuck, I meant hacked. Thinking about that turd game still kills me inside
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>>30942463
I assume you meant to say "doesn't own a hacked 3DS" because there's nothing an unhacked 3DS can do that a hacked 3DS can't.
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>>30942439
Literally nothing.

Look at how much SEGA fucked their shit up during the years and they still have a loyal fanbase. Granted, they have been trying to make a comeback for years too now, and they treat fan projects well, but in terms of first party output they fucked their franchises up beyond redemption.
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>>30942502
Suck Nintendo's dick

get dumpstered pirate fag
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>>30942480

again, the problem isn't that he's doing something illegal (he's not), the problem is Nintendo can fuck him over if they wanted to by dragging him to court over and over forcing him to pay tons of money on a lawyer until he gives up, or just ruining his career as a game developer by blacklisting him. He does not want to piss off nintendo regardless of whether he's legally in the right or wrong
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>>30942534
that's what leaks are for
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>>30942534
Seems like Nintendo is being evil here
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>>30942534
Fuck Nintendo, never buying another of their shitty games as long as I live.
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>>30942502
>because there's nothing an unhacked 3DS can do that a hacked 3DS can't.
like become a brick once you get consolebanned for piracy
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>>30942599
Yeah sure. When will you preorder the next Pokemon game?
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Thread is at bump limit, move here?
>>30940839
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>>30942534
Great then.

First thing, throw out this Australia shithole letter and ask for legal process in the affected country: USA.
The reason it originated in Australia was supposedly due to that being the server hosting.
Ditch that too.

I wouldn't give Nintendo or this literal who supposedly representing them the time of day.
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>>30942591
Not really it's their product they can do as they please as long as it's not against the law.
It's the reason why Mojang can take mods of Minecraft and add them to the vanilla game without telling the author of said mod or paying them.
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>>30942664
The romhack is not their product.
The base game is.
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>>30942439

Claim ownership of every Youtube video using Nintendo property. Monetize all of them and get 100% of the ad revenue while the video creator gets nothing.

>Oh Nintendo is just protecting their assets. They're the REAL content creators, not the youtube channels. Nintendo is entitled to their money so they can stay in business!

Take down Showdown.

>Well the people using that website should be buying and supporting the games, not this random website that uses Nintendo's copyrighted characters. Plus Game Freak is making competitive battling easier with every generation anyway!

Shut down Bulbapedia and Serebii.

>W-w-well they had ads so they were profiting off of Pokemon which is wrong. And Serebii looks like garbage I mean come on that 90s layout guys am I right??? Nintendo is still okay. They did us a service by taking down this ugly site

Publicly denounce fan art, music covers, music remixes, etc. and work to have everything popular taken down

>They just don't want subpar art to be confused with the real thing, right?

Make a movie about one of their franchises, specifically one that involves a lot of animal actors. It surfaces that the animals were horribly abused on the set. Most of them got sick from completely preventable diseases, not unlike puppies with parvo.

>Well it was a shitty movie anyway

Rush out a shitty cashgrab Kanto remake for the switch that universally receives low review scores around 20-30% even from reviewers known to only give high scores to Nitnendo games

>the game is meant for children, not adults. It's okay if it's not perfect. It's not meant for you. Nintendo has to make money somehow god you losers are so entitled


in short, nothing. Nintendo is the next Disney. Sometimes they will be in the spotlight for doing terrible things but the next time a decent Pokemon or Zelda game comes out, everything is forgiven.
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>>30942664
Romhacks are not illegal tho
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>>30937232
absolutely fucking gold. if they actually tried taking it to court, it would get tossed out easily. they had and entire 8 years to respond, but they did nothing prior to now. that kind of negligence could end up with old pokemon games becoming public domain if taken to court assuming the case isn't in Texas and/or the judge isn't bribed
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>>30942675
No, "Pokemon" is there product and since the rom hack is made from it and called "pokemon prism", it falls under their right to it.
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>>30942613
Nobody has ever gotten bricked for piracy. People have gotten bricked for being retards and fucking with system files in the wrong way, but never for piracy. The worst is getting banned from online for playing a game online before release, but even then you can just unban yourself (it's not a hard process).
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>>30942720
No, Pokemon Prism is the result of combining the newly created assets (the hack) with the base game.

Alone the hack is harmless and worthless.
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>>30937305
that's actually been tried before. obviously it failed when it went to court, but they definitely fought for VCRs to be illegal
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>>30937232
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>>30937402
they could send the C&D to the hacker known as 4chan
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>>30942713
I believe some one mentioned this when Uranium got a c&d but there have been court cases where a finished product ie a book was made and got taken away even though the one who took it didn't for a few years.
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>>30942737
Also before you respond, since your response is obvious.

The contents of the romhack does not matter given the current "letter". They're targetting Pokemon Prism itself as an entire product.
They'd most likely have to start from scratch (and then prove) the romhack itself (with no base game included) supports their claims.

>oh but if you combine it with the base game it becomes the complete thing!
But the base game is already a complete thing too.
And by that logic a computer + internet means everyone's a pirate.

I'm not a lawyer.
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>>30942753
The only one I distinctly remember being DMCA'd was a PS emulator named Bleem! sold for the Dreamcast at a time the PS was still under production, and that alone justified the action.
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>>30942883
Don't think anything happened aside from Sony bankrupting them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleem!#Sony_lawsuit
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>>30942858
>But the base game is already a complete thing too.

They aren't distributing the base game, though, only the patch.
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>>30942924
That's my point, so as it stands that little "letter" of theirs holds no water.

The patch/hack alone is not what they are referring to, and it surely is not Nintendo's IP or brand to be damaged.
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>>30942153
he could easily claim that any leak came from someone with an early release. we already know TPP had one, so it would be unprovable that others didn't also get an early copy
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>>30942924
The patch does contain copyrighted material in the sense of names and likenesses of their IP.
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>>30943038
So nothing inherently exclusive to the patch?
Why don't they C&D this entire board?

Nintendo is garbage and shit.
Pokemon is garbage and shit.
The fuck are they going to do to me?
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>>30942613
God, you're really fucking retarded. The ONLY faggots that got banned were people that went ONLINE before the fucking release date. That included FUCKING REVIEWERS.

I pirated that shit game 10 days earlier before release and I didn't get banned. All I had to do was hide myself from nintendo. You know, the shit that the fucking prism hacker didn't do.
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>releases game anyway
>nintendo takes him to court
>okay nintendo you were right, I was wrong, sorry I didn't listen
>judge sentences him to 12 hours community service because it's a pokemon fan hack and nobody in the adult world gives a shit

seriously, what's the worst that could happen? genuinely curious why this wouldn't work
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>>30943078
Im not trying to say nintendo isn't scummy for enacting copyright law for something completely harmless, but that's the way the law is written.

If nintendo really felt like it they can send 4chan a dmca on a particular post. The pick and choose, seemingly at random who they go after.

Also do not forget, copyright law is the real shitstain here and to do something about that, you're going to need to do more than just beat nintendo.
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>>30943150
If you don't think the kike lawyers at Nintendo wouldn't rake his ass over the fucking coals to set an example then you're an idiot.
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>>30942613
They didn't ban for piracy, they banned for playing SM early online, legit copy or not. This is because, newsflash, they literally can't tell the difference.

This was also a terrible cuntish thing to do by the way, people who got the game early from a store also got banned, reviewers who ignored their warning about not going online also got banned.
They ran a bait and switch operation to "get pirates", but they also got a lot of innocent people, just for playing early, and yet they didn't care.

Nintendo has gone mad this year.
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>>30943184

rake his ass? They can't force him to pay anything. They can't send him to jail. They literally can't do shit except blacklist and send mean letters at him. Unless they can prove he somehow lost them money then he's in the clear.
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>>30942156
Pokémon Sage.
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>>30943228
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/nintendo-scores-1-3m-piracy-win-mario-leak-article-1.196688
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>>30943150
Better, become a martyr and actually smear Nintendo and Pokemon.

"I have worked on this rom hack for the past 8 years of my life out of the fondness I have for the series and to give the community and original people behind the franchise something to be proud of.
Today I received a letter from somebody representing Nintendo requesting I cease all actions involving this rom hack of mine.
Instead, I shall ignore them and release this with no regards to them.
Nintendo may choose to elevate their involvement further and potentially ruin my life, but I refuse to let them get away with their abuse.
I know nobody is in my corner to defend me, so come what may.

I leave to you 8 years of dedication for a wonderful experience.
Hope to see you soon."
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>>30943228
They could make the argument of "we were going to release Gen 2 on VC and this is cutting into our sales!" and even though it'd be bullshit since you can already download Gen 2 games illegally a judge would likely buy it.

Though, they probably couldn't pin it on him if he or someone else anonymously hacked it and he feigned outrage about it.
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>>30943265
>costing the company thousands in potential sales.
Stopped reading their. This is the goto for cry baby bitch lawyers.
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>>30943228
In order to go through court there are fees associated with litigation. Because laws are rarely ever written in the layman, and the process is more involved than most people think, it's wise to lawyer up.

But because the way the system works, things have to be responded to, in a certain window, all the while fielding new claims and such as they come in in what's known as discovery. So that lawyer you have is draining you of a lot of resources because of the sheer volume of material a legal team can dream up and their responses to it.

It's not the trials that kill, but the prep.
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>>30943302
And guess what, it works, faggot. Whether or not you feel it shouldn't doesn't matter.
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>>30943265

that's different though. That's him releasing an actual version of the game which they can claim lost them sales with actual numbers and graphs and shit. This is something completely subjective. Saying it hurts your image means nothing, unless you can back it up with actual facts and lost sales numbers, then any competent judge will throw this shit out.
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>>30943265
That was a leak of their actual game, and it was before it came out. It isn't really comparable to a ROM hack, especially one of a game that came out as long ago as Pokemon Crystal.
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>>30943314
Oh so we let it happen. Okay.
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>>30943382
Unless you want to pay his lawyer fees and go through a months long trial for him to set a precedent of this being thrown out then yes.

The court system isn't won by who's right or who's wrong, it's won by money. If you have more money than your opponent you bankrupt them and even if you lose the case it doesn't matter because you left them with nothing and it serves as an example to everyone one.
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>>30943313

fair enough, but my point is why not just say they're right from the get go, plead guilty and say that everything nintendo says is true. what is the worst punishment he could receive?

i don't believe they could legally get him for millions is all my point is. I don't think anything other than a slap on the wrist would happen
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>>30943425
Nintendo doesn't want this getting out.

Taking the fall to recover later would be a huge blow against them.
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>>30943446
It's easy to say that when it's not your ass on the line.
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>>30943428
part of that process again because this isn't a criminal case, but a civil one. If you simply concede that everything the company said is true, then you're also saying to the judge their numbers presented are also true.
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>>30943457
I honestly would.
It's not often someone gets to point a gun right back at Nintendo with their own ammo.
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>>30943550
Clickbait youtube videos using your intellectual property on channel with millions of subscribers that gets tons of ad-revenue = totally fine

Some random gameboy color hack for a system that hasn't been relevant in 15 years = misuse of IP
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>>30943500
Also please do no misinterpret me.
Yes the pretext of potentially having your life ruined is bad, I get that.

I don't know the author but if he really poured his soul into this for 8 years what's the difference?
Call Nintendo's fucking bluff and release it (as clean as possible to avoid giving them any ammo: a patch).

Nintendo is always going to be on the losing end, it just depends on what magnitude you're willing to let them get away with.
Currently they're under fire for "protecting their IPs" and the defense force is coming out full throttle.
However, that's where the author is letting them get their way, as usual.

Turn around and release it, what's Nintendo going to do? Pursue it?
Congratulations, they're now even under more fire and getting shit on front back and center.
They took a guy, who honestly dindu nuffin, and ruined his life.

Congrats Nintendo, that's really going to incentivize the investors.

>but Nintendo can incentivize by stopping it at the source
Wrong. That's the extent you're willing to let them.
You can put them in a far worse position and take them down a notch or two single-handedly.
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>>30941988
>basically TPP ruined this, but also if it wasn't for them it would have never been finished
fucking paradox
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