>Pokémon whose gimmick is surfing >cannot learn surf

>>30870186
I really wonder how many People make movesets for pokemon
Why Drowzee still can't learn Dream eater while it can learn poison gas?
Why Luxray cant learn any cutting moves?
Why pokemon without any claws can learn scratch and other slashing moves
why Dedene cant learn Dazling gleam naturally or by TM?

But there are also BAD examples of Pokemon that just learn too much:
Garchomp learns Dragon claw AND Dual Chop naturally
Oddish that learns fucking every status inducing powder instead of Echoed voice


It\s same thing with abilities. Why we just dont discard Pressure (or make it mewtwo only)
And give propper abilities to legends?
Zapdos and Raikou - Drizzle (Fuck random peliper)
Articuno - Cloud nine or Snow Warning
Moltres and Volcarona - Drought
Why

>>30870186
Okay, before we talk about HMs, it may just be that the HMs for surf and dive teach the pokemon how to use the moves with a rider. The fish already knows how to swim, but without HM surf, it may be making maneuvers that throw its trainer off and into the ocean. It'd be even worse with a flying pokemon.

>>30870315
Drizzle Zapdos would be the most broken thing in existance

Also something something Cut Zangoose

>>30870315
Giving those abilities to Raikou and Moltres would be absolutely busted.

>>30870325
I'm talking about how Alolan Raichu, whose gimmick is surfing, cannot learn Surf. Nothing to do with the whole HM nonsense. It's pretty clear GF just needed Raichu to keep sucking and having no coverage for (((some))) reason.

>>30870363
They are fucking legends, they deserve it.
same with Dialga and Palkia getting Time Room/Bizzare Room

>>30870371
Actualy yes. this was REALLY disapointed.
aspecialy seeing TMs are often crazy moves delivery

>>30870381
But those moves don't exist,anon,what are you talking about?

>>30870392
Learn to english please.

>>30870371
Because surf tm is different from being able to surf

Surf tm means being able to summon a tidal wave

>>30870381
What the fuck would Time Room/Bizzare Room even do

>>30870399
You know what I wanted to say.
>>30870416
It's midnight here, pardon muh.

>>30870426
Trickroom and Magicroom setter

>>30870426
Not him,but my Idea is:

Time room
5 PP(Max 8)
Status
The user creates a strange area where the battle returns to turn 1.

Bizarre Room
5 PP (Max 8)
Status
Places ALL hazards on the field.They can't be removed.

>>30870458
First one sounds like it would have a lot stipulations or else it'd make battles go on forever.

Second one sounds like a smogon players wet dream

>>30870425
Rhydon and Tauros make as much sense as Raichu

>>30870517
I forgot to add the cons.

Time Room can only be used when Dialga is your only pokemon left.Altenatively,the used PP
on all mons used in battle is still intact.As for Bizarre Room,they can't be removed for 5 turns.