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>physical/special split
>infinite bag space
>infinite use of TMs
>Pokemon center and Poke Mart are one building
>removal of HMs
What other solely positive improvements were made in Pokemon?
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>>30852540
>Would you like swap with a Pokemon in your party?
>Would you like to use another repel?
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removal of IVs in gen 8
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>What photo should I use for your Trainer Passport?
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Add eggs directly to your team/pc instead of needing to have an empty slot in your party.
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>>30852540
Believe it or not, I have heard many autists cry about 1, 3, and 5. I know, it's sickening.
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>>30852540
Gen III's PC Revamp, the VC rereleases made me realize that I've been taking it for granted
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>infinite use of TMs
I don't think so friend
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>>30852577
Git gud
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>>30852628
>>30852646
Speak of the devil and he will come
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trainer customization existing.

everyone online having the same "muh canon" design would be fucking terrible and ruin the immersion of you being your own trainer.
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>>30852628
>Crying about the special/physical true split
Not only they are autistic, they are retarded.
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>Organizing your items alphabetically, by type, etc.
>activating the PC takes you straight into the boxes
>Pokéball button
>Last used item
>apricorn balls and the like
>swapping party members with a new mon when you catch one when your party is full

I wish they could bring back the Xtransceiver or Pokégear, they were really neat
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>Pokeballs in a single button
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>>30852722
Xtranciever was pretty great in BW2. Practically a non-intrusive version of Rotomdex.
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>>30852659
>>30852628
people who complain about the physical/special split make good points desu

there's a sameyness to all the types that wasn't there in gens 1-3
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>nobody mentions SpA/SpD split
>nobody mentions autoswitching to the next box when current was filled

Genwun. I get it.

But these two things in particular were so glorious they deserve at least a mention.
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>>30852853
I'd take samey-ness every day over Pokemon not being able to use their STAB due to it being special while they are physical-based.
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>>30852540
>removal of HM's
I wish that were an improvement, but it got replaced by a cancerous gimmick...
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>>30852853
I hope you're not serious, but you're probably retarded enough to be.
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>>30852574
>>Would you like swap with a Pokemon in your party?
Wouldn't you have to go to a pokemon center to heal your pokemon anyway?
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>>30852540
REMOVAL OF DEPOSIT AND WITHDRAWL OPTIONS IN PC
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>"Pokemon is about to learn xxxx move"
>"Do you want to replace a move with the new one?"
>"Keep old moves"
>Doesn't ask you if you are sure

HNNNNNGH

However, I miss the x button to instantly get out of all the menus
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>>30852540
Being able to move multiple Pokemon, up to a whole box, at the same time in the PC.
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>>30852928
>cancerous gimmick
Poke Ride isn't a "cancerous gimmick" you autistic retard, it's exactly the same as key items, just with even MORE usefulness.
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I actually kind of hate the bottomless bag sometimes. Takes forever to sift through even with the sorting options, and Free Space does nothing for you unless you have several copies of the items you use regularly.
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>>30852928
Cancerous and a gimmick? Explain yourself stupid fucking nigger.
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I'd be fine with riding pokemon if it wasn't for the god awful outfit you are forced into. It even follows you into battle...
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>>30852897
this
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>>30852928
The only "bad" one is Stoutland, since aside from faster movement it's essentially a downgrade from the Dowsing Machine.
>have to hold a button to search instead of having it active at all times
>searching for items reduces your speed to almost zero
>can't dowse in small places or indoors
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>>30853006
I miss the pokeball touch scrolling method of I think it was Gen IV? Made shifting through everything so much faster.
Also they haven't figured out that if you sort items by whatever and get a new items, the new item should auto sort instead of staying at the bottom. This pisses me off so much when it comes to TMs.
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Only QOL thing Gen 7 fucked up was no bike.
Or at least an always run option
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>>30852969
>solely positive improvements

Fuck you if you think any off those are even remotely positive
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>>30852939
Not with potions or a heal ball. Some peoooe are pretty liberal with their healing items. I personally just fly to the PC to save cash
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>>30852577
IV gone to make all pokemon maximized potential. Natures Expanded to bigger bonus +/- 30 while characteristic gets plugged into another +/- 5 bonus. All calculated off PID SID. HP reworked to allow Fairy Type.

Rate?
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>>30852988
No, it's not, you're the only autistic dipshit here if you think that. It's a gimmicky gimmick, and it adds NO value whatsoever. In fact, it's persistently annoying, more so than HM's were. That happens to be an objective fact dickface, so quit shilling it.

>>30853027
Samefagging now? Well, I'm neither stupid not black, so you are either ignorant or underage. Either way, please leave.
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>>30853090
I can't believe they took away the d-pad for movement. Fuck the circle pad and any retard who prefers it.
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>>30853115
>two people disagree with you
Must be a samefag amirite?
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>>30853079
>already in water, have to change to smash rocks, and change back to fish.
>have to watch stupid animations for everything.
>can't flat "anywhere" like ORAS.
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>>30853092
He is describing one positive addition, not several
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>>30853115
>only need to press the d pad to use fly or strength
>no longer need to waste move slots for HMs
>persistently annoying

You're just grasping, my guy.
mfw i took the bait
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>>30853107
>characteristic + nature
no thanks
fine with increased effectiveness and removal of ivs though

>>30853092
>he wants to scroll through more unnecessary screens
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>>30853160
>one person samefagging disagrees with me.
Must be two people, right?
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>>30853029
Pretty much this. I love what they did in replacing HMs with riding pokemon, but I hate the riding outfit.
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>>30853168
>have to watch stupid animations for everything.
Fucking this. That fly animation is way too long and happens EVERY time, and you can't skip it. And it even happens when going to the Pelago! I just run to where I'm going more than half the time now if it's close enough to avoid having to see it.
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>>30853202
Actually three
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>>30853188
>d pad
This bait is so bad... The d pad does literally NOTHING in S&M.
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>>30852897
Hell the gen 3 box system in general was a godsend.
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>>30853184
>removal of the confimation
>removal of x to close
Sorry I didn't finish preschool so counting isn't my forte
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>>30853225
Yo pro tip: press Y and hover over a poke ride, then press any direction on the d pad
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>>30853225
Am I being double baited?
the d pad is used for assigning shortcuts for ride mons you fool
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>>30853225
Not true. You can set Pokerides to it.
Do you see the little icon to the left of each Pokemon when you press Y?
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>>30853107
No thanks. Instead of removing IVs, just allow Hyper Training for any Pokemon and have it unlocked post-game.
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>>30853225
You can register rides to the D-pad anon.
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>>30853225
It's clear you didn't even played this game.
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>>30853103
> Some peoooe are pretty liberal with their healing items.

This.
I never used or bought potions as a kid because I was saving for when "I really needed them".
Using them the game feels 2x faster.
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>>30853107
>IV gone to make all pokemon maximized potential.
Same thing in the end as 31 in all stats, sure.

>Natures Expanded to bigger bonus +/- 30
No, sweepers just get more potent and sneak in more KOs against shitmons and anything that doesnt use a defensive nature

>while characteristic gets plugged into another +/- 5 bonus.
>wanting more soft resetting and egg hatching RNG

>HP reworked to allow Fairy Type.
sure

Rate?
>2/10
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>>30853236
He's saying that he misses the second one. There's only one positive improvement
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>>30852540
>iv judge as part of pc

holy shit checking hundreds of mons in a few minutes
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>>30853212
Except the animation for Fly has always been there. It hasn't gotten worse.

I hate threads like these, because they just cause the shittiest opinions to rise to the surface.
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boxes not being text based but an actual graphic in gen 3
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>>30852540
>Game asks if you want to use a repel again
>Game asks if you want to replace a captured or egg hatched pokemon with a pokemon you have in your party
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>>30853347
>Except the animation for Fly has always been there. It hasn't gotten worse.
He's referring to the fact that the Glide animation is nearly as long as the soaring animation.
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>>30853347
To be fair, the animation used to take like 5 seconds maximum. Now it's like 15 seconds counting the black screens.
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i could not live in a world without infinite tms
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>>30852628
there are a grand total of three pokemon i can think of that were hurt by the phys/spec split, those being Zam, Typhlosion, and Sceptile. All of those are because they lost elemental punches. Sceptile in particular also lost Crunch and Leaf Blade, but oh well
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>>30853201
I would rather confirm that I want to keep old moves than not have it when my natural resting position for the stylus is at the keep old moves position.
About 7 times I've accidentally hit keep old moves with 4 being significant since you don't get the move reminder until just before the E4
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>>30853402
>Sceptile
It got a Special moveset and can also effectively use SD
if anything, it made great use of the split
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>>30853253
>>30853256
>>30853258
>>30853277
>>30853279

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnM5M_UJtN0
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>>30853508
>acts retarded
>gets called retarded
>tries to play it off as bait
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>>30853526
what? I was just reacting to >>30853225 getting BTFO
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>>30853115
>No, it's not, you're the only autistic dipshit here if you think that. It's a gimmicky gimmick, and it adds NO value whatsoever. In fact, it's persistently annoying, more so than HM's were. That happens to be an objective fact dickface, so quit shilling it.
...What?
How is it "persistently annoying?"
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>>30853216
make it 4
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>>30853568
oh desu I didn't play the video I thought you were just backpedaling
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>>30853798
Chump
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>>30852595
honestly, this was a nice way of getting rid of the "boy or girl" thing
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>>30852595
>>30854360
LITERAL autism.

Xirs belong on tumblr, please go back there.
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>>30853212
>>30853168
Nice samefag.

Pokeride is a god send, and I hope it stays in every game. Especially now that I know it upsets spergs, especially the ones in this very thread.
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>>30852540
>removal of HMs
>forced to look like a huge faggot
it's not solely positive

don't even get me started on the lapras chair
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>>30853508
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>>30852661
Why I hated oras so much. God I hated seeing all of the same trainer online
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>>30854406
Cry harder bitch. We WON.
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>Trade a scyther holding a metal coat to friend
>Get scizor back
>The game recognizes me as the OT and says "Welcome back Scizor"

Not an actual improvement, but it's such a nice personal touch that caught me by surprise
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>>30852540
Removal of menus on the pc
Easy to use judge function on the pc
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>>30854691
Sure, that's why the whole western world is becoming conservative... cause tumblr "won"
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>>30852540
While infinite bagspace is great, I still hate that the item PC was removed. Why can't we have both?
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>>30855301
>>30854691
>>30854406
Take it elsewhere cunts
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>>30852540
Why the fuck though did they have to make Machamp carry you around like a fucking baby he is cradling in his arms? Wouldn't it have been better to have the player walk behind him while Machamp shoves those stone puzzle blocks wherever?
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>>30855382
But being able to ride Machamp makes you run slightly faster
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>>30855382
Because they thought it would be funny, probably.
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>>30855382
it's aimed at the girls, anon
machamp carrying a girl bridal style
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>>30852540
Making fossils Items instead of Key Items.
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>>30852540
People that heal you in the routes are really handy.. I would just fly back to the Pokemon Center anyway.
The IV graph really useful also.
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>>30854360
Nah, fuck you. Sex denialism is bad enough.
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>>30852540
>infinite TM use
>improvement
No
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>>30855527
All the women want BMC
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>>30856618
It's an objective improvement as you couldn't use them before.
It's called "too good to use" syndrome.
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>infinite bag space
I miss the item PC
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>>30856618
>implying its not

sure was great never using any TM in gen 4 if you wanted to wait till post game to use them on bred pokemon
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>>30856618
Tell me how it is better without this feature, then?
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>>30852540
>physical/special split
>solely positive
L M A O
M
A
O
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>>30852540
In battle XP bar
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>>30852540

>infinite bag space


Nebby would be really happy in our bag
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>>30856767
With consumable TMs as rewards from battle facilities, there is more incentive to participate in those.

When you have enough BP you can feel great over that "Yes! Finally!" moment instead of just going "lol lemme just pump up this Pokémon with TMs" and have the optimal moveset immediately.
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>>30856849
but no one enjoys grinding for BP, and not all TMs are available anyway
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>>30857026
Why would you even buy the game if you don't like playing it?
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>infinite bag space

I've seen people argue against this saying that it removes "strategy" from the game.
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Can we at least agree that being able to put eggs directly in the box without having to run to a PC and rearranging your party is one of the best additions?
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>>30852540
They keep perfecting it and yet I'm sitting here bitter as shit that the VS Seeker will never come back.
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>>30857125
you're implying the game is solely about grinding for BP. here's the thing: it's not
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>>30857125
Putting up with the bullshit that is the Battle ____ != Playing a Pokemon game. If I wanted to fight endless fixed-level battles against not-completely-brain dead opponents I would hop on Battle Spot or Showdown, and if I wanted to watch a random number generator screw me over in new and exciting ways I'd shoot myself for wanting that.
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When walking up a hill your character will lean forward into their walk as if on an incline
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>>30856849
>oh no I can't use this EQ until I breed a perfect mon, better gimp myself during the story run
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L=A is an underrated improvement
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>>30853339
This so much. Fucking taking 6 pokemon and having to ask him about each one and figure out what his vague answers mean is such a pain.
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>>30852540
>gen 8
>HMs are back
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>>30852897
I completely forgot about those fucking gen 1 boxes. Those things were the bane of anyone who ever shared a gameboy with someone
>>30856849
There's a lot of TMs you don't get from those that you would either have to replay the game for, or abuse pickup. There's still shit to spend BP on anyway (not that BP is terribly hard to get)
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>>30857323
I have input on this, it fucks up your ability to check move descriptions if you're new and don't like trying to hen peck the touch screen.

It's a tiny nitpick, I know, and I do like the option being there. Why they didn't just give us the entire range of keybindings while they were THERE I'll never understand but good on them for at least touching their big toe into the water this time around.
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>>30857186
fuck yeah i have like 6 boxes of eggs and i can just drop 18 more off at pokepelago for a day or two and run circles on my tauros for 2-3 mins and hatch 5 eggs all at once, rinse and repeat. its fucking great anon
>>30857323
what does it do anon? asking out of curiosity
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>>30857234
Mash B as you walk on foot and you'll stumble.
>However, hold B and flick the stick rapidly gets around that. Lol.

If you spin the control stick around on foot, your (girl) character eventually starts to pirouette (I'm sure the guys must do something too.)

I love little things like this.
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>>30857483
L=A literally turns the Left Shoulder button into the A button.
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>>30857549
no but like why is it useful over using the a button?
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>>30857753
You can play with one hand.
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>>30857753
You can both move and mash A with one hand.
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>>30857798
holy shit guess what im doing ASAP
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>>30857753
very useful for fapping
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>>30852853
>there's a sameyness to all the types that wasn't there in gens 1-3
>not the sameyness of all types always taking the exact same stat
>not the sameyness of a pokemon only being good with its STAB if it used that exact same stat
What am I missing here, exactly?
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>>30857523
>I'm sure the guys must do something too.
They do the exact same thing
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>infinite tms
>solely positive

have fun waiting until postgame for your electric type to learn tbolt
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>canon yuri
yasssss
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>>30857753
You can kick back and lie around with your hand behind your head and the other playing Pokémon. In SM they even added a bunch of stuff to the touch screen and the d-pad so that I only have to move my lazy fat ass if I wanna scroll through the items. It's an amazing function for kicking back.
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>>30857465
That'd be great. Id love it if they let you customize the button functions. Especially if it got complicated.

A=complete the pokedex
B=defeat the Elite Four
X=chain 100 in battle tower
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>>30853168
Why the fuck would you switch between sharpedo and lapras, just use sharpedo you retard
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>>30853212
It's hiding a loading screen, would you rather sit at a black screen for 10 seconds?
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>>30858541
You cant fish on Sharpedo
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>infinite bag space

how is scrolling through a million of silvally's shitty memories with no way to get rid of them a good thing?
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>>30858369
Doesn't Lillie only talk about wanting to come back and be with you if you're a boy, not a girl?
She's straight. Tumblr pls go
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>>30856784
explain
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>>30856849
but then when you want a pokemon that has the same move you can just get fucked.
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>>30858656
fuck you scum shes gay for moon and it doesnt matter what the game says because we all know shes gay
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>>30852540
also,
>loads straight to pc instead of asking if you want to withdraw/deposit separately
>it took three generations to fix this

Literally next best thing after not having to save each time you switch a box.
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>>30857523
the boy character does a pirouette too
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>>30858606
put them in the free space
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>>30858891

but I'm already using free space for repels/escape ropes and items I commonly use. I should be able to toss the shit I literally never use into the PC, or have more than 1 free space.
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>>30852540
All of those are negatives. Here are the real solely positive improvements:

>removal of contests
>removing the withdraw/deposit/item options from the box
>moving multiple pokemon at once
>introduction of abilities
>more types of pokeballs
>multiple pokemon teams
>new pokemon
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>>30859020
aside from the bag space, how are any of OP's things negative?
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>>30858980
give them to shitmons to hold
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>>30859251

box isn't big enough to hold that many shitmons, sadly
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>>30852853
>Sneasel has Huge Atk over SpA
>Both STABs are Special
neck yourself faggot
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>Favorites pocket in your bag
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>>30852577
They should honestly remove this or at least reduce IVs so having one at 0 or 1 is not such a big deal.

IVs were originally made to comply with the old games' limitations. We should be able to use other code to personalize pokemon nowadays.

That or at least make Hyper Training's changes real and reduce the needed level to 50.
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>>30856849
>Have to grind to use ONE MOVE on ONE CHARACTER
They have Move Tutors to satiate your autism.
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>>30858561
Yes
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>>30858304
It's better than "find one on the floor and never again, so now it's wasted on a shitmon".
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>>30859434
im sorry about your autism then
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>>30858304
Yeah man it was so much better back in the old days when you could only teach EQ to 1 Pokemon.
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>>30859020
>All of those are negatives.

This fucking board can't stop being contrarian even for one second.
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>>30858369
Yeah, like you say, degenerated
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>>30856849
Hey dumbass, they still have 1 use TM's, they're just not called TMs anymore, they're called "Tutor Moves"
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>>30858534
>have to beat everything in the game to alter controls

Unless i'm reading that wrong, that's the stupidest idea i've ever read
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>>30860258
Except they're not one use you just pay to use them every time you dingus
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>>30860620
How is paying to use a tutor once any different than paying to buy a one use TM?
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>>30858725
but she's not fat and she doesn't have cats either
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>>30861540
Some TMs couldn't be rebought
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>>30852853
>types are more samey after the split than before it
I'm not sure if you're trolling or just plain retarded, but either way you should probably just kill yourself
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>>30853006
I hate how few pockets there are. Gen 4 was good with the 8 pockets, then they moved back to 5 pockets. I hate how hold items, field use items, pokeballs, battle items, vitamins, and sellable items all get thrown in the same giant pouch and you have to scroll forever to find anything
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>>30852928
>mach bike combined with automatic Rock Smash on anything you touch
>cancerous
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>>30852853

>An energy beam and a punch should be considered the same kind of attack if they're both cold

The Physical/Special split was how things always should have worked if you were applying any common sense to the description of pokemon moves.

Gengar being a phenomenal special attacker but both of its stabs being purely physical is moronic.
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The only thing I miss from the pre-split days is running Hyper Beam on things like Gyarados or Snorlax in game. I know it was far from optimal, but it just felt RIGHT after having it seem so cool in the movies and the like. Giga Impact just isn't the same, I want my big monsters to breath death beams.
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>>30863589
I agree, I wish Gyarados could be a mixed attacker
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>>30863680
>Hurricane
>Hydro Pump
>Thunder
>Fire Blast
>Ice Beam
>Dark Pulse
If Gyarados could use its Special Defense as its Special Attack again it would be fucking amazing.
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>>30854810
This this this this
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>>30856814
I was so hype the first time I saw it level all the way up in Gold
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>>30863401
Also, Fairies have high sp.def, but their weaknesses are to physical types.
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>>30852650
>wasting hours on something that has nothing to do with battling is "gittng gud"
No thanks
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>>30864407
>nothing to do with battling
what?
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>>30864456

Not that guy but I assume he means that for a pokemon to be considered viable for battling it's generally assumed to have perfect IVs in everything or everything but a stat it does not in any way want anyways. The only reason something doesn't have solid 31s is for Hidden Powers.

In single-player, the varied IVs help every pokemon you encounter be a little different from the others, making for a less predictable experience. In competetive battling, however, all lower IVs do is establish not all pokemon are created equal and add an element to breeding that is a lot more time-consuming and a lot less intuitive than getting a pokemon with the right natures and egg moves.
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>>30864456
>>30864556
No no, I meant spending literal hours running around on a Tauros is a waste of time and doesn't help you improve your battle strategy in any way. So removing IV would be a great addition to the game. For now I'll just play on showdown
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>>30862940
Vitamins are with the medicine though
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I just want a way to change the nature of a Pokemon you've already caught

Hyper training helps with the IV issue (though bottlecaps are kinda hard to get and getting to level 100 without a rare kitchen is a bitch) but as of right now there's no hope if you didn't get a good nature for a Pokemon that can't breed
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>>30852939
lol I use berries or herbs for that
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>>30854810
this was here all the time.
They added this in D/P
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>>30858725
>nabby not making PEW
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>>30859020
>removal of contests
>Good

Yeah because additional battle style is bad.
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>>30852540
PC goes straight into "move" instead of asking if you want to withdraw, deposit, move items, or whatever the fuck that you can do in move anyway
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