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Dude I know youre gonna fucking hate hearing this but

Just inject.

Seriously. I can't even with this fucking gen. If XY knew how to do one thing right, it was fucking breeding.

What are the odds that one Special Defense IV will change the outcome of any battle?

>>30790319
>Fuck me right?
Is that a request or

>>30790319
Isn't it the exact same as last gen, only without the Bike Simulator spots?

>>30790319
>>30790368

I haven't done much breeding yet. What's so bad about it? Seems pretty similar to Gen VI so far.

>>30790368
How is this gen any harder than last gen?

I don't know. For some reasons took me more eggs to get something perfect when both parents have 5 perfect IVs.
Probably just bad luck.

>>30790368
You're retarded and so is OP.

Just use bottle caps for those few missing IVs

>>30790319
It's literally the same thing as breeding in Gen 6, maybe even more convenient since you can check the IVs on the PC

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>>30790419
Not everyone wants to be a cheater faggot loser

>>30790368
>If XY knew how to do one thing right, it was fucking breeding.
Lmfao, what? Nigga, are you high?

Don't listen to this faggot, op.
Breeding is fine this gen; probably the smoothest in any game yet.

>>30790419
>bike simulator
Now is rodeo simulator, anon.

>>30790319
The actual bike simulator is technically better even if it requires constant button input. Everything else is pretty much unchanged, besides good Dittos being a little easier to find. Hyper Training is just a bonus.

>>30790374
None, its only smogon fags autism.
Don't give em attention
Sage

I actually found this gen way easier than last gen.

>Able to hatch out perfect 5IV/6IV mons in 30 minutes or less
>Egg hatching location is right out front of the breeder
>PC inside breeder house has IV judge

Like, it can't get any easier than this

>>30790319
It's the exact same thing.

>>30790319
This exactly situation is what bottle caps are for yet people refuse to even acknowledge their existence

>>30790433
>Wasting your time raising a pokemon to lvl 100 when you can just hatch a few more eggs and get the IVs you need

Seems like there's one more retard in here

>>30790374
Near nothing at all but it riles my autismo up.

>>30790319
So?... What's the big deal? Sometimes that happens. Keep breeding.

>>30790505
you're going to level it up to 50 anyways, and going from 50 to 100 takes less than an hour if you know what you're doing

>>30790368
It's just hard to get into the idea of injecting when you've been playing "legit" or whatever for as long as I have. Only thing I've ever done is use a PowerSaves to make backups of my stuff in case PokeBank shits itself or I get my DS stolen/lost.

To have gone that long without using hax just to do it now seems pretty gay. Plus, I'm paranoid that PkHex is gonna fuck over my ability to play battle spot.

I don't really care if other people do it (if they're upfront about it). To me breeding is part of the game and it's a mindless side activity I can do while watching TV.

>>30790319
>put pokemon in daycare
>go outside
>get on tauros
>run in circles in the little pen in front of the egg lady
>exit and go up to her since she's literally 3 feet away and get the egg
>hatch it in 1 minute with flame body
>rinse and repeat until you get a 5iv mon
this gen has literally been the kindest to breeders out of any gen

>>30790536
Please enlighten me senpai, please don't say rare kitchen *****

>>30790536
How?

>>30790579
see>>30790573

>>30790319
>I hear it's pretty much the worst gen for breeding
That's completely wrong, it's quite the opposite. Breeding is easier than ever.
>catching eggs, hatching them, checking IVs, all at the same place

>>30790563
You don't even need to go inside the pen, just go to the side, just above the grass. Unless your thumb is made of wood, it'll be faster since as soon as the lady crosses her arms, you get that egg. And it's even easier now with the automatic send to box thing, since if you don't get lucky on the first five, you have another five in reserve that will pop at the same fucking time.

>>30790555
>everyone who plays the game properly is verlisfy
how desperate

Breeding is faster than it's ever been thanksnto the Autism Box.

TRAINING is a different story. Why can't we fight opponents higher than level 65?

>>30790319
The in-box IV checking alone makes this the best generation for breeding.

>>30790319
"Wah, it's off by 1 IV, what ever shall I do? Breed another one? Nah, I'll cry about it, that will fix that IV"

>>30790606
This.
Other than not having fast hatching, how is this gen harder than the last?

>>30790319
>implying you need 6 IVs to battle competitively

During XY/ORAS, I was doing pretty fine on comps with a TurboCancer TalonFlame that I breeded with just 3 IVs.

You only need the 3 important stats with full IVs to make it work.

for example: obtaining a 31 IV on Attack with mons like Gardevoir, Gothitelle, and Alakazam is dangerous because of moves like Foul Play.

>>30790617
>monica.png

Seriously- why is no one else doing this yet?
Just send everything to the box and hatch five things at once.
Maybe it's booster pack syndrome, but i fucking love hatching five things at once hoping for something good out of it.
And it means i almost always have extra eggs to have running in the hot springs.

>>30790617
Like, right next to the truck?

ITT plebs that don't have a 5 star rare kitchen

>>30790319
that's so close to being perfect it isn't even worth having anything better, don't know why he's crying about it

>>30790679
like, directly south of the door inside.
cause then you can easily get to the breeding lady to get eggs deposited straight into your box all day long.

>30790664
>cheating
>playing the game properly
work for your (You)s nigga
i don't give em out for free

>>30790479
This, my mons are shitting out competitive ivs in record time too. The real pain is training, and even then it's just because it takes so long.

>>30790746
>30790664

>>30790319
Play the fucking game you retard. Breeding is the best it's ever been.

>>30790713
How the fuck do you even level that shit up?

>>30790368
>IV judge in PC
>Tauros box
>Girl changing poses when Egg is ready
>Easy to find Flame Body Pokemon
>Relatively easy to find a 6iv ditto in the internet

breeding is comfy as fuck this gen what the fuck, only problem is farming BP to get the EV items

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>>30790433
>getting a pokemon to lvl 100 just to correct IVs

>>30790679
To the west, so the other side. There's a patch of grass, use that as your limit and start spinning your Tauros until lady crosses her arm.

If you're right-handed, you'll spin faster counterclockwise.

If you're left-handed, you'll spin faster clockwise.

guy on op pic is a pussy, i got 2 (two, TWO) female regenerator mareanie from breeding

>>30790563
Agreed.

So many autists in this thread.

>>30790808
>Not getting a pokemon to 100 just to correct IVs
You have to do this for the legendaries at least. For breedmons no.

Tauros simulator seems even faster than bike simulator + egg power 3.

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>30790770
>reading comprehension
holy shit are all injectors this retarded?
i told you before and i'll tell you again, if you want this (You) you'll have to work for it

>>30790870
Probably because Tauros simulator walks at a faster pace than bike simulator can.

>>30790948
The quality of posts is very important to this community.

>30790948
>immediately jumps to "h-he reported me!!!"
nigga who the fuck said that
stop projecting already
are all injectors this insecure?
and you're still not getting a (You) from me until you put more effort into your bait

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>>30790808
>playing Tauros Rodeo just to get a 5IV breedmon

>30791075
what the fuck are you talking about
i appreciate you showering me in (You)s but you're making all injectors look bad and you need to stop

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>>30791075
Does this guy have psychological damage?
What the fuck is your problem? Who fucking hurt you? I'm 100% serious when I say this, you need get help.

cringe

>>30790319
>>30790368
Breeding is fucking easy. Is this some stupid meme?

>>30790479
Plus it specifies each IV as well, including a "fantastic" for 30IVs, making hidden power breeding a thousand times quicker.

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>>30791075

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>>30791135
So this is an example of the average cheater?

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>>30791075
>>30791135
is everything okay at home? do you need to vent?

>>30790319
How big of a fucking difference is that small ass point?

>>30790499
Except bottle caps aren't convenient enough to get that you're better off just breeding for IVs.

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>>30791211
>gets btfo
>cries samefag
keep projecting

>>30790713
that's called being an autist because festival plaza is cancer

>>30791205
Exactly one bottle cap.

>>30790319
This is easily the best gen for breeding. It's even better than ORAS.

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>>30791075
>>30791135
What the fuck

>>30791135
>breedfags are pathetic
like how? Some people just can't or don't want to inject so they breed. I see no issue with it

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>>30791270
Prove what? You forgot to even make the point you fucking dipshit. Keep crying samefag.

hi

Post Janitor Trainer Class.

>>30791347
Dumb cheaterfag and a newfag both.

You can check unique posters in the corner. There's 44 people in here moron. Cry harder. Then go back to you know where. I'm sure the hugbox will make you feel better.

>>30791075
Why you gotta bring that up, that man did nothing wrong and his movies were fine

Holy fuck can someone repost what that guy said lmfao

So as we were saying. Leveling is a bitch in this game but breeding itself is still pretty easy. No idea where to actually hatch the eggs though, I wonder if it's easier to fly somewhere else.

I thought after ORAS had the easy "hold down one button" resort they would have something similar in SM.

Instead of breeding Pokemon, I'd like to breed with them. But only female ones.

>>30790319
>Everstone, Destiny Knot, and Oval Charm are all back
>Daycare no longer gives levels, meaning there is no longer any chance for a parent to forget the moves it needs to pass down
>IV Checker means no more raising 5 babies to level 20ish, calculating the EV's they gained, and running comparisons to see stat differences
>Taurous is the fastest bike yet
>The autism box is the best place to hatch eggs yet
>You can passively hatch up to 18 eggs at a time on Isle Avue while you sleep
>A Bottlecap can fix an IV on a shiny or something

Nigga, what the fuck are you actually on?

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thanks janitor-kun

on the topic of the thread, how the fuck do you hit level 100 easily so you can use bottle caps

>>30791471
Level 5 rare kitchen (although grinding out FC is even more boring than level grinding)

>>30790553

What it comes down to is this: Why are you breeding?

If you're breeding because you enjoy the process, because its something to do, because you like finally getting that perfect Pokemon and feel a special connection to it, then keep on breeding. Sure it might be less efficient this Gen than it was last Gen, but that isn't the point for you.

Are you breeding because you want competitive-level Pokemon to use in Battle Spot? Then just fucking inject. If you aren't in it for the breeding process then you aren't missing out on anything and the end result is the same. You're going to have less of an attachment to the Pokemon you inject but you will spend much, much more time battling which is what you want to do anyway.

>>30790319
I'm just annoyed at the fact that there isn't an infinite path for hatching eggs this time. Being able to check your IVs directly in the PC is really useful though.

>>30791468
>IV Checker means no more raising 5 babies to level 20ish, calculating the EV's they gained, and running comparisons to see stat differences
stopped reading there, you're just retarded

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Sun and Moon would be the best games for breeding, except for the retarded 'lol you can't save and have to have boxes full of pokemon' bullshit they implemented.

It would have at least been bearable if they let you release several pokemon at once.

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>>30791514
I felt the same way at first, but you can spin in circles beneath the egg lady in the little spot with all the piles of hay and shit hatches super quick. Being right next to the egg lady, being able to check your IVs, quickly retrieve eggs from boxes, and check hidden powers all in the same place honestly makes it feel much better than previous gens.

>>30791571
Newfag? This was a thing at some point.

>>30791396
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/30790319/#q30791075

>>30791572
the fuck you talking about

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>>30790781
>breeding is comfy as fuck
How in the fuck is breeding comfy?

>>30791572
???

>>30791665

"Comfy" is a meme word. It lost all meaning years ago. Just replace it in your mind with something that makes sense.

>>30791513
Doing it for both. I go on showdown for serious fights and I enjoy taking my breed projects to knock around a few kids on battlespot. Don't really need to inject but I'm not against other people doing it if they only care about battling

>>30790781
>IV judge in PC
Ameriga eggsplain.

>>30791665
it's mundane and keeps him busy, i assume

>>30790374
If he's playing at standard level 50 battles, 30 and 31 IVs both give 162 Special Defense before nature. It literally makes zero difference outside of autism. (and hidden power type)

Can someone explain to me from the ground up how bottlecaps work?
>where do you get them
>where do you use them
>are the results permanent/breedable
>is there a catch
>etc

>>30791572
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>30791468
>The autism box is the best place to hatch eggs yet
It's not even the best place to hatch eggs in this game.

>>30791735
The results aren't breedable but if you get a mon to 100 and have bottlecaps you can improve IVs. How do you get the bottlecaps? Various ways... look it up fag.

>>30790627
i know its wishful thinking, and people said the same thing about XY and ORAS, but maybe there'll be DLC with more postgame. Kanto with high level trainers, a battle frontier, and more Lillie pandering.

>>30791655
>>30791666
>>30791738

In the past games you could save before leaving two pokemon at the daycare and the eggs you would get would be different each time you soft reset. Now, even if you soft reset, you will get the exact same eggs each time, meaning that if you want a hidden ability or a different gender, you have to fill the boxes until you get what you want.

>>30791700
hatch 20 eggs and talk to npc in battle tree

>>30791793
You have to have a lvl 100 to even use them? Then what the fuck is the point, you're done EV training by then unless you use berries and hypertrain but who the fuck wants to go to all that trouble.

>>30790631
>tfw they'll remove the IV checker in the next games

>>30791833
How is that "in PC"?

>>30790668
well yeah, any smart person will leave special attackers with 0IV in attack, but you can't tell me there's a situation where having an imperfect IV in any of the defenses or HP would be more beneficial to having those maxed out as well.

>>30791871
it unlocks the ability to view IVs in the PC

>>30791836
Because Game Freak have no concept of good game design

The fact they ever invented IVs and EVs without properly explaining them is testament to that

>>30791871
>Hatch 20 eggs
>guy next to the battle tree receptionist wakes up and adds a feature to your PC called "Judge"
>can check IVs right in your PC and mark them to match

>>30791871

You'll see. Go actually do it, then come back and apologize.

>>30791572
>if they let you release several pokemon at once.
This is the last thing pokemon needs to introduce (Along with the Nature hypnotist and HP swapper, but those are never-ever tier). A "Dump this Box" function. I have ten boxes full of breedjects, and haven't gotten around to releasing them all, because it sucks.

>>30791871
After you do that it unlocks.
>>30791910
Taking the Hidden Power obviousness, having IVs of 29 or 30 in HP to get a HP/4 = x.25 result without investing EVs is something some people value.

>>30791824
Oh, that's a thing? I was super weirded out that I had bred a 5 IV Abra in one egg, soft reset, started rebreeding and the first egg was a 5 IV abra

But yeah, that doesn't seem like it would be very relevant? Like, why not just release as you go along?

>>30790319
It literally took me half a box to get a 6iv and the breeding mechanics in this game are some of the most convenient? Idk why people are saying that.

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>>30791915
>tfw EVs and IVs and the shiny RNG were meant to generate random neat surprises for the children and were never designed for grown autists to obsess and fight over on 4chan
>tfw you all found a way anyway
>tfw someday GF will realize the level of bullshittery you're all inventing over shinies and IVs and will one day do away with any way of monitoring or breeding them

>have lv 50+ Audino on Poni island that can be sos chained easily

there i just fixed the postgame exp grinding

>>30791468
>IV Checker means no more raising 5 babies to level 20ish, calculating the EV's they gained, and running comparisons to see stat differences

Oh? You don't need me to judge. I get it.

>>30792019
absolute madman

>>30792019

There are Level 50+ Chansey that can be chained with at least some reliability.

>>30792059
Where is this?

>>30790319
what? It's the best gen for breeding, it's only ever gotten better/easier. It's EXACTLY the fucking same as gen 6 but better because you can essentially choose HPs because of bottle caps, and can also have a chance of rerolling balls between 2 of the same species as parents.

I would say to just inject if it was THAT much of an issue, but everything is being spoon fed to you without it anyway.

Inb4 you have to have a level 100 pokemon to bottle cap!

It's called Festival Plaza, play it sometime. A few days in there and you'll have a setup that nets you 3 - 4 bottle caps a daily, and rare kitchens to finish off the hard last 50 levels of a pokemon.

Holy shit the people who play this game are actually just getting lazier, more demanding and super fucking entitled. Why even buy the fucking game? Go play showdown holy shit.

>>30792100
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-sm/location/113.shtml#sun
Elekid SOS's them.

>>30792100

Poni Grove. Riolu can call Chansey. It's not straight Audino chains or anything, but once you get a Riolu SOS'ing, they appear with some regularity.

>>30792105
>Festival Plaza
Fucking garbage shitty game design

>can't save old facilities
>have to grind boring minigames for coins

if only they brought back amie's minigames

>>30792125
You're much better off at Poni Grove. The levels are much higher.

The only annoyance is catching a galvanize geodude.

>>30792125
>>30792135
Thank you, hopefully I can get my Salamence to LV 100 before friday

You guys are fucking dumb, how in the hell could this game be any worse for breeding than XY?

>>30791954
oh yeah i didnt think about Hidden power, very good point.

and also there's the trick with having imperfect iV's in Health on a belly drum user so they are at below half HP and their berry can kick in the same turn. i shouldn't have been so absolute about imperfect IV's. but 9 times out of 10 perfect IVs in untrained stats are still beneficial, with the exception of attack

>>30792204

No guarantee that's the fastest way to level up, though. Another method I've heard is to go to the Battle Buffet at Hau'oli and quit before your 10 turns are up, so you can do it repeatedly.

>>30791954
You can get perfect ivs with any hp now due to caps

I've breed less then 500 eggs and gotten 10+ perfect iv pokemon.

People need to git guy and stop looking for excuses to inject.

>>30792135
>>30792125
>>30792100
all baby pokemon have a chance of calling chansey

but in my experience, fuck those suicidal riolu

>>30792240
Or just pump less EVs into HP??

>>30792264
I would assume that level 52-55 Chanseys would give me a ton of XP, right? Plus, grinding on 52-55 Pokemon would give me a good amount of xp right?

>>30792386
yeah that's way easier to control than having a 30 in HPs IV

>>30792405
gonna look in to this, but if chansey appear fairly often, this might be a very effective EXP grinding method that has been underlooked so far

>>30791572
see >>30751140 for information on how to change the seed. The stuff they say changes stuff? Fuck with it and it'll change how your eggs come out after a reset.

>>30792475

They're not exactly common, but if you OHKO the Riolus, you get through so many Pokémon that you can see a lot of them in a fairly short time.

Just bring a bagful of Leppa berries, and be careful about the Riolu using self-damaging moves.

>>30792381
Everyone's favorite grass owl completely walls Riolu, perfect for chaining

>>30792588
>>30792650
>>30792381
>Suicidal Riolu

What is this? What should I worry about?

Breeding good IVs on a Pokemon is actually very easy this gen, especially with that broken Tauros running thing in the fence that lets you hatch eggs faster it seems.

>>30790319
Have you even done it? It's literally the same as gen 6.

>>30792713
Final Gambit

>>30791871
What the hell is this thread, has no one bitching about this game actually played it?

>>30792713
Wild Riolu come with Final Gambit as a part of their movesets

>>30792713
They don't give a shit and will use final gambit a fucking lot.

like first turn suicide.

call for help, suicide together.

>>30790319

I dont understand why I breed if I only fight online in smogon.

>>30791205
Proud of it's Power.

>>30792776
OP here.

My assumption was incorrect. In the past few hours, I've gotten ~10 Pokemon that kick ass. Hardest part was farming a 6IV ditto from SOS.

Once you have one, I'd argue it takes more effort to cheat than it does to get something good from breeding. Just play on Showderp or something if it's too much trouble.

Thanks anons.

>>30790319
More like the easiest, lmao

>>30792803
Chansey will never call for help, and can also suicide with double edge.

a ghost type lead will negate final gambit or double edge, but you'd want to chain off of the riolu sine chansey will do nothing.

there arent any ghost types with Pressure, Intimidate, Or Unnerve that can also learn false swipe, so there's some setup involved for maximizing efficiency with this technique

>>30792832
glad you've seen the light, it helps even more than they gave you a shit ton of assistance hatching eggs

>>30792910
testing this now with Aegislash with False swipe + brick break & max affection for maximum EXP

will post results after some time testing

>>30791735
>where do you get them
Big Dreams lottery shop in festival plaza, rare treasure hunts in poke pelago, fishing in seafolk village

>where do you use them
shopping mall in hau'oli where they teach you the pledges

>are the results permanent/breedable
no

>is there a catch
the iv spread says hyper trained instead of best, if you have autism you might not like that

>>30793017
my conclusion is that it's not worth the time, riolu gives less exp than other pokemon you can find on the island, you'll maybe break even by the time it calls a chansey, which is about 5% of the time, maybe less.

>>30793436
i'm not sure if tauros/miltank will call for help often, but those might be the most efficient for SOS grinign exp from poni island, other than that, your best best is Battle Buffet or E4

>>30793436
>>30793017
Aw man, there goes my idea to LV up fast

On a side note, fucking Wally's Scarfed Garchomp swept my team on the 30th battle despite having Timid 31 IV 252 EV Tapu Koko and a bulky af Golisopod on my team. So now I have about 2 hours to get my 30 streak again to pick up todays Bottle Cap

>>30792045
All you can say is, on average, how good they are. The amount of time that can be saved with a "good enough" Pokemon instead of waiting for a hexaperfect one is nice.

>>30791571

Clearly the retard is you.

>>30793760

Rule of thumb in the BT when using Koko is to have a Ground-immune partner and immediately switch out on anything that can do damage.

Celesteela/Skarmory because they're both immune to both of Koko's weaknesses.

>>30790433
>This
I like being able to run HP Fire with a speed IV set to 31.
If you guys want to cuck yourselves by grinding out the perfect pokemon for a month, that's on you.

Same shit as Gen VI but with worse routes than XY to bike sim on, better routes than ORAS go bike sim on, a much more user friendly IV checker, and you have the tacky Tauros instead of a snazzy bike

Worst for breeding is forever Gen 2

>>30792135
Riolu would be fine if it didn't have final gambit

>>30790433
The only things worth capping are Legendaries/Shinies/Ingame Team

Breeding like a madman is still more economical

>>30790766
At least you only need Lv50 for general purposes.

>>30796240
>worse routes than XY to bike sim on, better routes than ORAS go bike sim on
This is literally exactly the wrong order. ORAS had the best one because it's one button right next to the daycare, SM's is second because it's a constant simple motion in front of the day care, and XY's is the worst because it's either a route you need to pay slight attention to or a place you need to fly to.

>>30790319
whoever told you that is fucking retarded. eggs are generated and hatch much faster now.

>>30790319
>it's pretty much the worst gen for breeding
Nigger, please. Breeding is piss easy comparing to what we had in gen IV. My biggest Pokemon achievement is still 5 IV Tyranitar I need in Platinum. It took about 7 generation and a month.
Now I can do that in 20 minutes.
No one would even want to talk about Gen III I'd imagine.

>>30796351
>IV breeding in gen 4
I tried once. Never again. Holy fuck.

>>30796089
Oh, great advice. I just don't have a huge selection of Pokemon right now since I just started breeding.

I'm also just suprised that Garchomp out sped Koko. I didn't know Garchomp was that fast

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I mean aside from the lack of a bike loop it's the same aside from eggs hatching somewhat faster due to egg steps being shortened. Being able to deposit eggs directly to the PC makes the overall process faster and the stats judge being a PC app is the best thing ever too.

My main issue is that they locked the destiny knot behind BP again when it was handed to you for free in XY and ORAS

As for bottle caps...If you don't have multiple rare kitchens on hand, yeah it's hell to actually raise pokemon to level 100

>>30796327
No idea what that one button thing is, if you mean bunny hopping on an Acro, shit's too slow

Personally I hate the box, rotating the circle pad for minutes on end isn't comfortable at all and seems like a good way to break the circle pad, did it a few times and mine is already way looser than before

>>30792158
>boring minigames
I enjoy the "What's this type's weakness?" one

>>30790553
>To have gone that long without using hax just to do it now seems pretty gay.
So what's the problem then?

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Eh I don't care for the rodeo box for hatching. Running around in circles with stoutland in front of the nursery is faster for me and lets me pick more eggs on the fly when I have 5 on hand.

>>30796428
You enjoy playing it 50 times a date very day?

>>30790563
>also pelago hot springs help hatch eggs

>>30790319
>31 attack IVs on a special attacker
I think we all know what the real issue here is.

>>30790412
A bit better with males being able to pass on their ball now.

>>30796577
That's Impish anon. It clearly plans to use physical attacks.

>>30796404
Wasn't it a 5% chance to get it upon rematching a specific NPC on a specific route in ORAS? I remember fucking despising that when I finally got around to moving all my breeding operations to ORAS because the Resort was efficient and the Tutors were there. I had to get a friend to let me use his 3DS so I could directly trade my Destiny Knot over to my game because you can't do that with the Bank. I'd rather pay BP. XY was the best for it, though.

>>30796701
Get this through your head.

This is the part we find fun.

>>30796709
he's a fucking shitter then that shouldn't play at all

>>30790368
Breeding is literally the same as in XY.

Same exact mechanics. Keep being retarded.

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So is it me or do the UB's/Legdendaries come with really good IV's?

>>30796750
If you aren't joking, since Gen 5, Legendaries are guaranteed to have at least 3 perfect IVs

>>30796750
They come with 3 perfects guaranteed. That's just a relatively lucky roll. I got a Type: Null with 5 perfects, in all the stats I wanted, that matched the nature I synchronized for, without any soft resets.

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>ITT nobody's tried G7 breeding

>>30796774
I didn't know that

>>30796750
3 guaranteed perfect stats ever since XY.

The other three in that photo, really good luck, but not that farfetch'd to see

>>30791836
You can change IVs with bottlecaps, not EVs.The idea is that you spend less time breeding for perfect IVs.

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>>30796723
You had XY on hand didn't you? You could have GTS traded with yourself. That what I did to transfer important stuff from X and trade evolve.

>put up early route mon asking for Xerneas or something similar in ORAS
>Switch to X and give Xerneas Destiny knot and trade with ORAS self

Rather out of the way since bank won't let us store items but hey it works.

>>30796927
I've never considered that. I'll try to keep it in mind when they inevitably fuck everything up again in the DPP remakes.

>>30796750
I managed to pick up a 5iv Adamant while completing dex via GTS. My fave Sun exclusive too. How do I build this thing?

>>30790319
The breeding is easier than Gen VI. (IV checking in PC, generally faster, balltism)
And before that, Gen VI had the easiest breeding in the series by a fucking mile.

>>30792797
Most injectors don't know anything about the game, they just do it because they're used to since the gen 4 days where getting good Pokemon legitimately was virtually impossible without RNG manipulation.

They'll continue to claim breeding is some autistic no-life affair despite the massive overhaul it received in gen 6, and now with the convenience features of gen 7 (IV judge on PC, being able to send eggs/Pokemon to the box remotely, both genders passing egg moves...)

Trying to get HP Ice on Xurkitree is a nightmare. I see why people inject.

>>30790319
>I hear it's pretty much the worst gen for breeding


>I have no fucking idea what I'm talking about but let me parrot shit I've heard somewhere

It's worse than ORAS breeding sure, but it's still NOTHING compared to the shitfest GenV downwards were.
And you'd know that if you actaully bred once in your lifetime.


I'm fucking sick of retards here just parroting shitposts pretending they know shit about the argument.

>>30790467
Being able to get new eggs on the fly and send the newborns to the pc and being to IV check in the very same daycare, on the long run saves a shitload of time.

The advantage genVI has is passive biking and EV training. The first still isn't that bad in SM due to the autism box, the second is still better than pre genVI stuff at least.

>>30790781
The only thing that's better us the judge and unlike before you have to unlock that shit.
The tauros box is worse than the loop.

Everything else applies to the other games.

>>30797375
Absolutely nothing to do with breeding though.

>>30791068
Quicker than levelling up in SM.

>>30797298
>The breeding is easier than Gen VI
Eh not really. ORAS was more form fitting? Functional? There's a specific word that I'm looking for but it's not hitting me.

Anyway the Tauros hole is one of the worst things. Unlike the previous gens you have to actively pay attention.

>>30796459
Why stoutland and not tauros?

I got like 3 6IV Growlithes

>>30791734
Are you for serious? I never knew that

>>30797375
>catch my first timid xurkitree
>Perfect IVs in Sp.A, Speed and HP, happy enough with those until I hyper train the defense stats
>Hidden power type is ice

How can wiring be this nice

>>30797537
Don't have to hold B to go fast.

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>>30790505
Tell that to the shiny that pops up with the wrong IVs. That's what Hyper Training is for(imo) That and fixing up legendaries/Mystery Gift mons.

> Hatch this guy
> Wrong IVs
> The ONE Sap Sipper Drampa in 20 Eggs

I'm jist happy I have the option to fix this guy up.

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>>30791468
Not to forget:

> Move Relearner can now teach mons moves from UP IN THEIR LEVEL LIST
> You can basically buy Heart Scales in restaurants.

Egg move breeding is also stupidly easy this gen. GF is making breeding easier and easier, but Injectfags will not stop unless they can get instant battle ready mons because they are lazy.

Is Hidden Power actually useful in competitive Pokémon? I always see it brought up, and I get how it works, but it sounds like it would only be useful for Special Attackers that get STAB from it (so no Normal or Fairy STAB). Is that really worth looking for lower IVs?

>>30799078
It's for Special Attackers, but its for coverage, not for STAB.

>>30796419
> bunny hopping acro

Nigga what? are you high?
The battle resort has a perfect loop for egg hatching. You literally push UP on the D-pad and you will bike around the island in circles.

If you breed mons with species form different parts of the alola dex it increases the chance of a shiny yeh? I've found this gen of breeding easy as. Destiny knot was a pain getting started.

>>30799078
You use it for Pokemon that need the coverage, electric types for example usually want ice hidden power to hit dragon and grass types because their movepool sucks

>>30792832
Honestly like you've learned the hardest part of getting things in this game is getting the items and pokemon that make this easy.

>>30799078
Like >>30799144 said. Coverage.

Consider Xurkitree for example. Is a pure Electric mon, so logic would tell you to switch in a Ground-type. But then it packs HP(ice) and fucks you over.

>>30797528
Is it that hard to fucking spin a pad in a circle anon?

>>30791468
>Nigga, what the fuck are you actually on?

Stopped reading right there.

>>30799078
I have my Magnezone with hidden power fire which would get walled by ferrothorn otherwise. All I had to do was breed random Modest magnemites until I got one with hidden power fire (magnet pull was preferred but I could just use ability capsule) and level it up to 100 (honestly hardest part). Now I have a reliable Celestella, Skarmory, Mantine, Ferrothorn, Toxapex, other annoying shit counter.

>>30797537
Tauros not having auto run
stoutland is surprisingly fast enough as is
L=A is not screwed over due to having to hold B with tauros and I like having a free hand.

>>30791468
This, expect that the box isn't better than the free space northwest from the box since you don't have to dismount tauros to get more eggs
Could I break my C-pad though, it's a lot of spinning whatever you use to hatch

>>30799510
I havent broken mine yet and I've spun around pretty intensely with the circle pad, you should be fine anon.

>people still think missing a few IV's will change the game

Topkek. Do some damage calcs sometime on your 4-5 IV mons. Basically nothing changes

>>30790418
It's a predetermined seed based on many factors, including PID, the parents and their IVs. Bad for breeding, best for RNG manipulation.

>>30790319
> Given pc judge in daycare
> Given hp type in daycare
> Easy path to use for eggs
The only real complaint you should have is getting a Destiny Knot. As soon as you have that, it shouldn't be any more than an hour before you have your perfect mon.

>>30799574
>Spent 5 boxes hatching rowletts to get a 5iv one
>Spent 3 eggs getting a 5iv grimer
probability has no memory
fucking kill me

>Year after current year-16 days
>People still waist time breeding instead of injecting or playing on a free simulator

When will breedercucks learn that their time and efforts to breed a perfect pocket monster are all lost when they can take 2 minutes to make a team with fan made stuff?

And will GameFreak just give people a full proof, no strings attached, instant way to make a full team of competitive Pokemon? They keep trying to punish people for taking out the tedious work out of battling because they think it's wrong, yet still haven't implemented a "team builder" function for online battles exclusively. And that's pretty fucked up. They could solve this injecting ((((problem)))) by just giving us a way to get perfect Pokemon without the bullshit.

>>30799857
Why don't you go play instead of posting on every breeding thread instead?

>>30799528
On shitty lv100 singles where the 90% of the meta uses 252 252 spreads maybe. Anywhere else it makes the difference on getting OHKOs

>>30799857
>Im a lazy cheater who cant breed pokemon and I want Game Freak to give me everything without having to do it myself.
FTFY

>>30796419
You need to rotate it very very slowly

>>30790674
Can vouch for this, currently MM-ing and I grind out eggs this way. I get to hatch 5 at once and get 6-8 in the time it takes, so I always have a set more backed up

>>30792301

Which is amazing.

>Always wanted HP Fire Steel Trapping Magnezone but always put it off due to lack of compatilbility with N's mons.
>Also wanted one in heavy ball but impossible to get decent one in one before.
>Now can just keep breeding Magnimite's in heavy balls until I get one with HP Fire, train it up, then use my gold cap on it.

Only catch is I refuse to use Apricon balls on something I can catch in Hg/Ss so this has to wait until bank.

>>30797477
>The tauros box is worse than the loop
It isnt, flying in and out of notParis was a pain in the ass

Just bottle cap it :^)

>>30790319
>worst gen
That's not gen 3. Seriously FUCK Gen 3 breeding.

>>30791598
That stopped being a thing a long time ago, you just go to the stat judge and see what stats he says they are "can't be better"