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With the release of Humon Sun and Moon, Kyōgon has finally compiled

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With the release of Humon Sun and Moon, Kyōgon has finally compiled usage stats for this Gen's OU. So /vh/, did your Bro make it in?

They're going to ban Mega Lusamine, r-right?
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>>30735749
>Hau in OU
What's he gonna do, Malasda Mash me?
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>Hala used Earthquake!
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Youngster's only niche is priority stealth rocks, he'll drop to UU soon.
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>>30735749
>Cynthia that low

Man in gen 4 she was the champ of the tier
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>>30735855
I mean, 100 power stab is nothing to laugh about.
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>>30735749
>Elite 4 and champions in OU
they should really be in Ubers
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Who is the red guy?. Battle tree only?
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>H-Colress made it

We made it guys
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>Cynthia used Draco Meteor

Entire metagame aside from Mina goes down, but in the event of Mina

>Cythia used Flash Cannon
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>>30735749
>Wally nowhere to be seen

What the FUCK
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>>30735749
>Using Prebank OU
Come on now, I want to see if Looker and Cynthia are still in OU.
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>>30735921
You think she got it bad?

Red was literally Ubers from gens 1 to 4. Man, what the fuck happened?
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>Hex Maniac can't even touch OU

Being a Genericfag is suffering.
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>Not banning Mina entirely

Her signature move lowers your accuracy, confuses you, and puts you to sleep.

Sure she loafs around every second turn and her speed is low, but since everyone plays her first and gives her a focus sash you can't even hope that you can damage her with entry hazards.
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>>30736005
His 43 speed really fucked him over
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>>30735973
>Hapu used mud slap
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>>30736021
Cynthia is here so its bank ou, your bro is probably in uu
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>>30735749
Where's Masked Royal? Is he in Ubers?
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>No Ace Trainer

Man, the power creep is crazy. She has all these moves to use with Technician and still dropped this gen.
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>>30736005
Sorry Galladefag, your husbando's pokemon is shit.

Even once it evolves and loses the Sick ability a well trained Brendan or May can stomp the shit out of him.
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>>30736088
>only 5 of them aren't from gen 7
>3 of them are champions
the power creep is real
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>>30736094
Masked Royal is just a shitty form like Greninja-Ash.
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>>30736005

He was overhyped. Outclassed hard by Faba and Ilima. Inner Focus is also a shit ability.
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>>30736094
You have to change Kukui form in battle
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>>30736128
>implying Brendan and May aren't already in Ubers with Fug
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>>30736094
Masked Royal is really good but I guess a lot of people wrote him off as too gimmicky because despite being on par with some of OU's champs he has a relatively low Usage rates and is still in OU, maybe that will change over time.
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>>30736005
He might rise when they patch in his mega stone into /ss/ wally
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What went wrong?
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>>30735749
>Ya boi that low

What went wrong?
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>>30735749
>but Lillie will be OU guys!

Btfo harder than Decidueyefags
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Anyone else hate all the damn Lusaminefags shitting up /vh/?

They only got worse since their Waifumon got a mega. Goddamn skinfags
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>Alolan Grimsley is OU
what the fuck happened?
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>>30735749
>Green finally ahead of Red

We did it boys!
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>>30736267
she's just a gimmickgirl
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>>30736267
N O M O V E S
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>>30736332
It's the anti Alolan man

If Hala and co are banned you can expect a plummet in usage
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>>30736404
but he's literally completely luck based

his ability gives every single attack used by both mons only a 50% chance to hit. How the fuck does that counter anything? Or am I mistaken about that ability
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>>30736293
she has no attacking moves and obvious taunt bait

dunno why people thought she'd be in OU
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>>30736536
It makes Supereffective moves from Grimsley twice as hardhitting but with lower accuracy.

Add that to accuracy boosting items and he's nearly unstoppable besides some meh defense.
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>>30736536
That stall potential though
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>Gale Wings got nerfed
what tier is it now
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>>30735749
>The foe's Kukui Battle Bond activated!
>The foe's Kukui transformed into the Masked Royal!
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>>30735909
>what is focus sash to endeaver to quick attack
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>>30736761
STRAIGHT TO NU
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>>30736825
Well, this is a bit disappointing for a Sky Trainer like her...
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>>30735855
Wow the power creep is real, look at all those gen 7 humons in OU.
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>>30735749
>Ryuki
I thought he was just gimmicky garbage, is he actually good?
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>>30736882
Whoops, meant to quote OP.
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>Anabel this low
so now that wally's dropped, does best waifumon still have other good niches?
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My bro Tristan made it, sweet!
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>>30735749
BAN CHAMPIONS
BAN KAHUNAS
BAN CAPTAINS

MAKE OU GREAT AGAIN!
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>>30736908
His ability may be gimmicky garbage but
>DORAGUN KUROU
>Boomburst
>Agility
>Like 20 other great moves
He's ridiculously versatile
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Why can't I use Kukui and the Masked Royal on the same team?
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Lillie's Z-Form in Stars will be Ubers.
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>>30735749
>Sina and Dexio went from NU directly to OU
What happened?
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>people said he wouldn't get banned
Once again proving no one on here has any idea about competitive.
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>>30735749
How the fuck does Hapu hit so hard with Heavy Slam and Earthquake when she's so tiny? Does she have the density of a neutron star or something?
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>>30737159
They gave them Hawaiian forms.

And then they gave Megas to those Hawaiian forms.

It's ridiculous.
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>>30737097
wooh, oh yeah clause
itd be too good
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>Gladion used Swords Dance!
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>>30737159
>implying their masked heroes form wasn't OU
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>>30737198
I'll have to try Sina, but Dexio is for fags
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>>30735749
>A-Shauna
>OU
I'm expecting BL easy
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>Red and Blue
>OU
What the fuck. They're NU at best. Fuck off with this Gen I shit.
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>>30735749
>only 7 old humons in OU
This fucking powercreep, man. Not even any Johto humons?
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>>30735749
Lusamine is going to be banned to Ubers I guarantee. Battle Bond makes her way to strong when she turns into Nihilego-Lusamine
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>>30737362
It's prebank stats. Not like Johto did very well in the past, you only ever had Gold up there consistently. Clair had a niche occasionally but Whitney was just a meme that refused to drop.
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>>30737418
>What is Silver
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>>30735749
GLADION BAN WHEN?

THIS EDGELORD IS FUCKING CANCER! HISCHUUNI ABILITY GUARANTEES A CRIT ON EVERY ATTACK! FUCK THIS SHITTY HUMON.
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>>30737454
>Not using Hau
>When Hau's immune to Chuuni
git gud
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>>30736764
>Kukui straight up transforms into a completely different Humon
This shit makes no fucking sense. It's like if Sina or Dexio could transform into the Defenders of Kalos or something.
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>>30737442
By the time he finally got Friendship Dance, he was already outclassed by other FD users.
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>>30735749
I'm surprised they haven't banned Red and Kukui. Granted, Kukui's Battle Bond is gimmicky, but he is still pretty OP. And Red did suck since Gen IV, but he recently got a pretty nice buff, with Z-moves and Megas.
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>>30737527
You have to admit though, the Masked Royal and Kukui look really similar. Even Burnett thinks they look alike.
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>>30737563
But Sharp Edge and Shove give him a good advantage. One FD, and he can be pretty strong.
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>>30735749
>Cynthia is still OU
God damn I miss pre Pokebank XY, only time she wasn't in OU
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>>30735749
Man, why is Nanu so good?
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>>30735749
>Mina is OU
>Only learns sketch
New toy syndrome at its finest
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>Guzma is in OU
My boy made it.
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>>30735749
Guzma's lower than I'm comfortable with, but Olivia is everywhere and shits all over him. Maybe once she's banned, his usage will increase again.

But Youngster sure surprises me. He was hovering between RU and UU for the longest time, but that ability change must have done him some good!
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>>30737663
Mina has way better stats than Male or Female Artist from last Gen so I think it's justified. Plus she could be packing any Z-Move and you wouldn't know it.
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>>30735749
>Hau that high
>Red and Blue that low
Yeah, this is going to get updated real soon.
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>>30737641
Nihilistic is way too good of an ability. It prevents status moves from being used at all. He should be ubers by now
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>>30737745
Hau's mostly up there as a counter to Gladion and Ryuki. He's immune to Chuuni boosts after all
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>>30737627
Gladion can run the same set and has higher stats. There's no reason to use Silver as long as Gladion is available.
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>>30737695
>Olivia
Not even that big of a threat. Guzma's real problem is Kahili, a Golf Club from her either OHKOs him or activates his Emergency Exit every time.
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>>30735749
Okay so
Quick few questions
>The fuck is Ilima doing that high
I get it, the Ilima combo is fair and balanced, but he dies to priority anything.
>How did golfer girl get in here
This one I'll buy I'm just shit
>Grimsley
Uh?
This isn't me saying he's bad, this is me saying Nanu is here and I figured Nanu would just quietly push inferior Dark-type out of the room.
>Anabel that low
>Literally free setup that low
Is it Nanu? It's Nanu isn't it.

>>30737340
It's their shared unique Ability they got this gen. It's pretty nut.
>Red's Legacy triggers
>Whoops Evasion +2
Fuck
>Blue's Legacy triggers
>Heals to full
Goddammit

>>30737454
>Gladion Ban
>>30737495 is right, Hau slaps his shit.

>>30737695
>Implying Olivia will see bans
>Hala is standing right there
Olivia ain't budging until Hala slides into Ubers, and if Hala slides into Ubers OU is gonna get a lot more degenerate.
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BAN THE GENWUNIES!
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>>30737999
Trips of truth. Red and Blue needs to go.
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>>30738019
Not really
Legacy can quietly shuffle into bans, but there's still actually pretty fair strats that run them that don't run Legacy.
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>>30735749
>No Wally
Was he already banned? I know his first form sucks, but that power boost ORAS gave him was crazy
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>>30736267
>ability and gimmick based entirely on dancing
>only gets two dance moves
>only one STAB
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>>30738055
>That speed tier
>That coverage
>Those types
>Those abilities
Yeah, no. They're cancer. Except for Leaf. No one cares about her.
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>>30737362
There's 8 there, dip
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>>30738166
forgot Anabel since her Alolan form is hard to recognize
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>Kahili will forever stay NU they said
Who's laughing now faggots?!
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Will he ever be unbanned from OU?
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>>30735749
>cynthia still not in ubers
fuck I just wanna play with my bro nanu and not get fucked over by champions. meta is bad enough with no drayden as check. just throw cynthia red and blue up with mega steven and iris and we can be done.
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>>30735749
literally who is running faba? been laddering all day and I haven't run into even one of them, just waifufags running lana/acerola teams.
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How many times do we have to tell you people it's prebank?
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Did they ban Alolan Bateman (female) alread?
Her ability Check Em is too good. Making every attack hit twice, at 55% for the first hit and 44% for the second hit is OP. What was Game Human thinking?
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>>30738150
>Those abilities
>Implying they're that scary without Legacy
No but seriously Nanu dances on their graves without Legacy.

>>30738235
I still don't understand that, Olivia should be pushing her out just by existing. Is this one of those meta, "she counters somebody relevant" things?

>>30738273
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No.
Never. Steven's coverage is disgusting, nobody relevant hits his weaknesses, he's tanky enough to setup through almost anything, and his coverage on the OU meta is gross.

>>30738290
Dude what are you talking about Nanu can walk right through Cynthia.
>Cynthia's Leitmotif tries to trigger
>Nanu's Nihilist triggers
>Leitmotif does nothing
???

>>30738327
I think it's meant to be Faba running with Lusamine. That or stall-Faba. Or both. I'm not actually sure how the combo goes but apparently it's enough to keep them both OU.
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G-guys, where's the last Ratatta? I really need that Top Percentage ability on my Youngster, but my Rata-Cube says it's only 99/100

Help ;_; Annoying Brat is an awful ability
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>>30737623
>Burnett
Literally all she's good for is getting thrown into the daycare with Kukui for eggs. Cynthia, Lusamine, and Anabel are better for breeding since they're compatible with all human egg groups.
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>>30738273
i don't think so, it's ability "charming" makes all female humon deal 50% less dmg, so it can wall several sweeper humons
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>>30735749
What I want to know is why they shove legnedaries down our throats so much. Breeding them is so much faster and more rewarding than SRing.
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How do we make Wicke OU /vp/?
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>>30740406
Give her an ability other than Thick Fat.
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>>30735749
>reintroduced many old characters
>gives them new forms
>no new forms for Cynthia or Wally
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Does anyone have a pic of all the SM trainer classes?
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>>30735749
How is Cynthia not Ubers anymore with these stats?
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How the fuck do you run Gladion?
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>tfw your sis will forever be UU

Too many prominent ground and steel types in OU for her to even be viable, plus Soundproof Red completely nullifies her signature move and shits all over her.
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Release your humans
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>see lana on the opponent's team
>know its gonna be a free win

Anyone else have an experience like this?
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>>30735749
I see OU somehow got even more cancerous with Banded Mallow and Specs Acerola
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I'm still mad that they unbanned Wikstrom at the start only to quickban him a few weeks in. What, can't deal with King's Shield?
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>He plays OU
>He play Smogon

IDK guys, I'm enjoying using Tabitha in BATTLE SPOT, an OFFICIAL meta :^]
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>>30743071
How do you fuck up spelling Kyōgon that badly? Is it a neckbeard thing? Back to /r9k/, raticate.
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>>30740643
Cynthia did get a Mega, but no one uses it because of the fucking Speed drop. And she still doesn't get Human Dance for some fucking reason.
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So, why is Guzma so low anyway? He forms a great core with Nanu and Plumeria, he's able to go one on one with Kukui and Hau, shits all over all of Gladion's sets, and is one of yr only Knock Off users.

Granted, he doesn't want to face Kahili and he doesn't fare well against Hala, but surely his usage would be better?
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Remember when people said Lillie, Lusamine, and Guzma wouldn't be usable? kek
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>>30743399
People are just scared to use him because of the "Goon is a bad type" meme
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where's my qt Sophocles
he's slow but has good bulk and special attack
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>no eviolite preschoolers
I don't get it, they're not even competing for a niche with tubers and twins this generation.
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>>30743399
There aren't any good PoTown setters other than those PU grunts, and Nanu prefers the coverage from Acerola over any Thug bonuses
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Has that bug that allowed the Ace Trainer Male be affected by Swimmer Male's Handsome Charm been fixed yet? If not, Ace Trainer is fucked because he keeps falling in love with the Swimmer...
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>>30743132
She'll be broken. Fug will finally have a friend.
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Is having Cursed Body as her ability now really enough to make her drop to UU?
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>>30743599
No reliable recovery
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>>30743928
>Milk Drink

They knew what they were doing.
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>>30743399
His ability is garbage.
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>>30740406
L O N D O N
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>Youngster made it to OU
>But not Female Veteran
If you ever needed proof that Gamefreak was literally throwing shit at the wall to see what sticked, this would be it.

Youngster has that one stall set up as his saving grace. Sure the Female Veteran's stats aren't that great, but it's got a massive movepool and potential to be a special sweeper.
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>>30744397
Well, some Youngsters that are in the top percentage of Youngsters. It's just a natural result.
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So, are we just not going to talk about how the Male Swimmer's Devastating Twink Slammer can OHKO most of the relevant threats in the metagame? It caves in Hau's and Gladion's asses full stop, and Male Ace Trainer has no way to counter it.
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His alola form will pull him out of NU hell, r-right?
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Just read a leak about the new item for Youngster in an event gift
>give youngster the held item Bat
>youngster becomes Young Athlete with a +30 ATK, +50 SPE, +20 HP, +10 DEF/SPDEF
>Adamant Nature with Swords Dance Option

UBER
B
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>>30744519
Too bad that it maxes out Lana's Speed and Sp Atk if she takes a hit from an enemy Male Swimmer. Makes it way too risky to use him with how many people are carrying Lana
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>>30744560
This is actually confirmed on CoroCoro leak.
People don't seem to understand what this means
>Lusamine is quick and powerful, but due to Young Athlete's added Bulk, it can return KO
>Ryuku becomes inept due to Young Athlete's new Fairy/Fighting Typing
>Kukui is the most defensive pokemon in the game and it gets 2 shot by a Close Combat (One shot if +2)
>Young Athlete's base speed becomes 135, meaning it's faster than everything except Lusamine and Mallow

And it turns out the bat ISN'T a held item, but rather like Guzma's Rounded Glasses, so it literally just changes its form rather than forced equip like Colress's Science Gauntlet.
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>>30744644
That's why you pair him up with Kiawe and maybe Male Hiker, because then you can shit on Lana with Kiawe's Rare Bone and clear the way for it.
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>>30735749
>Molayne
>OU
How the fuck is that nigga OU but based Mask Royal isn't?
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>>30745015
special attacking steel type with unaware = walls lots. analytic set is also good for getting unexpected KO's too.
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>>30735749
I have no idea why Blue is even in OU, because doesn't he have fucking Defeatist as an ability???
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>>30735749
>Guzma that low
So I guess everyone is too retarded to use him properly?
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>>30745644

With all the Mega Lusamines and Kiawe usage, he gets checked too easily.
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>>30735749

Fuck Kyogon for banning Team Skull Grunt B just because of people abusing Bone Dance + Sucker Punch. That dude is way too cool to not be used!
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>tfw all of your bros made it to OU
What's a good set for Lana?

>>30735982
>Implying Hala goes down
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>>30735749
How is my bro faring in post bank OU?
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>>30735749
>mina used paint!
>mina copied grimsley's nightmare!
Why the fuck is she not banned yet? Her synergy with Grimsley is too fucking good.
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>>30735749
>Mallow
>Above NU
You're fucking dreaming. Yeah she's situational ok against Olivia but Gladion is RIGHT THERE. Her weakness to Edge-type makes her a fucking liability on any team at best.
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Just started using a core of Molayne, Corless, and Plumeria that's working surprisingly well. Molayne and Corless have great synergy with each other and Plumeria comes in to Toxic opposing Steel-types that try to outstall me.

Anyone else come up with unique strats like this? It seems like all I see on Human Showdown are Kukui/Cynthia/Mega Lusamine teams.
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>>30745644
Kahili destroys him
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>>30735749
>OU is the entirety of sun and moon
and johto is still in NU
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>>30746902
top fucking kek. These stupid charts still make me laugh

>Hau did I get here

Ain't that the fucking truth. With those stats, I was ready to accept another shitty humon, but what the fuck that movepool is insane

Also, Gladion is just a discount Silver. Feels bad man.
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>>30746902
10/10
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Gen 7 is the cancer to the meta now.
It's all gone to shit.
I rememeber gen 5 breeders used to be so OP, but now they can't even make a come back.
Wake me up when GF realizes their mistake.
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>>30736088
Cynthia is available pre-bank you tards. She's just post-game.
>mfw all of Johto isn't available until Pokebank
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>>30744528
>anime only
Keep dreaming. We'll get it after AZ is released. :^)
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>have no idea what the HELL is going on in this thread
>search for any link in this thread, find none
>do a Google search for Kyōgon, only find this thread

So from what I'm gathering, no article exists, and this thread is being samefagging by a small niche of /padt/ users (because where else would they come from?) while random anons join in on the fun?

Sound about right?
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>>30737252
Masked Form Dexio is good in doubles.
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>>30747415
What does this thread have to do with that garbage anime? As far as I can tell, your shitty Serena picture is the closest this thread has gotten to the anime. So I'm guessing you're just some butthurt shipper who is paranoid about other ashnime shitters bullying you in every thread.
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>>30747469
>don't try to refute the argument
>don't agree with the argument
>stupid ashnime waifu bait faggot cunt butthurt retard >_<

That just makes me want to ruin this terrible roleplay thread even more.
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>>30747415
>>30747511
>shitposting competitive smogon stuff with NPCs instead of Pokemon
>having anything to do with the anime
Anon, please. You're smarter than that.
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>>30747511
I refuted your "argument" by pointing out this thread has nothing to do with the anime. Judging by your avatarfagging, the anime is probably the main reason you come to /vp/ and you might not even play the games or anything, hence why you don't seem to understand a very basic shitty satire thread. Truly the worst of posters.
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>>30747562
Hello beta anime Lillie. :^)
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>>30747598
Yes, and? Now you're focusing on being mad at me instead of continuing this terrible /v/-tier garbage.

If you're going to do this, at least put actual stat numbers by the characters instead of being a lazy tard. Worst satire thread I've seen on /vp/ in months.
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>>30747640
>/vp/ has a little bit of fun
>Lmao worst satire I've seen try better
>Avatar fagging
Hide posts and move on people.
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>>30747640
These [replace competitive mons with characters] threads have been in here forever. Fuck off.
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What set do you guys run on Molayne?
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>>30747708
Flash Cannon
Earth Power
Substitute
Protect

Hits hard, but can't take a hit, so set up is required!
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>>30747640
Just let it stop
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>>30747693
>tumblr image
you're as bad as he is, go with him
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>>30747799
>Most google results point to tumblr
>A ton of images originate from tumblr
>No tumblr_(#).png/jpg in the file name
You are quite new or stupid friend.
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>>30747751
>slow, frail Nerd-type
For fuck's sake
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>>30747799
>I-I better change the file name of this random image I just saved off google images so 4chan will accept me!
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Guys what's better

Kukui-P or Kukui-R
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>>30735855
He can use any type of malasada, he is not really strong, but his malasada toolkit helps it.
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>>30748740
from a first glance it looks like a japanese artist made it

but apparently you recognized it immediately from tumblr which means you go there frequently?
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>>30748778
I didn't recognize anything nor am I any of those previous people. I am just a random who doesn't get the tumblr image demonizing. Its a shit place but a ton of pictures come from there.
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>>30748754
Kukui-P is OU
Kukui-R is RU trash
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>>30747415
>ashnime
>serenafag
>thinks he has the right to voice an opinion
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>>30738150
I care.
Being eternal NU is suffering.
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