Why use stall with this thing running around? >answer: you

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Boosts? Where?

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>>30729507
hahahahahahhahaahahahahahhaahah

>>30729544
Unaware remains unchanged, kiddo.

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>>30729544
Here is your (You)

>>30729544
Requesting any kind of confirmation here
Did they really make it so that enemy boosts work against Unaware mons?
They were so niche to begin with

Heh, z conversion...
*snatches behind you*
*unsheathes brick break*
Nothing personnel...

>>30729544
Sorry but the Unaware users where Unaware of the nerf, so it works like it used to.

>>30729544
Showdown still says the same thing so that's what I'll stick to

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>>30729544
>tfw the only thing that changed was flavour text because GF was too lazy to do anything else

>>30729735
The ability is unchanged, just a shitty description in game.

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I love the new and improved P-Z, but Z-Conversion Porygon-Z is more a sweeper/cleaner than the wallbreaker it would be in most of its older sets.

Unless you pack Nasty Plot it's still going to get walled by sponges that already managed to get a Calm Mind in like Clefable and Mega Sableye, and if the former has Unaware you're not even getting past that with NP. Premier Sponges Blissey and Chansey are comfortably going to take +1 Adaptability Thunderbolts too.

+1 252+ SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 170-202 (26.4 - 31.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

>>30729847
That being said, for Chansey/Blissey specifically you can still run Psyshock. Still not getting past Unaware Clefable though.

+1 252 SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Psyshock vs. 4 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 356-420 (55.4 - 65.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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So I've been a Porygon Z fag since DP, and have pretty much always used
@Silk Scarf
Tri Attack
Dark Pulse
Nasty Plot
Ice Beam
Should I just bite the bullet and go with a Z-Conversion set, and could anyone recommend me one?

>>30731289
>Silk Scarf

>>30731289
z-convert fixes up its poor speed and makes it only a little less bulky than porygon2, in addition to giving you stab on your first slot move, so you could run adaptability tbolt/ice beam/psyshock instead of tri attack

I've also seen people use it for blizzard spam in doubles with alolan ninetales

>>30729705
kek

>>30731335
I like Tri Attack, sue me. I ran a normal gem for a little while.
>>30731343
Makes sense, thanks.

>>30729686
Snatch doesn't work on it.

>>30731433
Tri Attack has saved me with status infliction so many times it is insane.

>>30731289
here's mine

Limewire (Porygon-Z) @ Normalium Z
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 44 Def / 212 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Ice Beam
- Conversion

>what is Haze
Toxapex can take one boosted adaptability tbolt, so it should be able to negate Z's stat boosts

>>30729544
Unaware nerf was fake

>>30729544
>Minor text changes

Nice update faggot

>>30733205
1hko boosted actually
2hko non boosted

>>30733205
>not carrying Hyper Beam on your Porygon-Z to deal with Toxapex in a pinch
>252 SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Breakneck Blitz (200 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Toxapex: 174-206 (110.8 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

>muh Baneful Bunker
Most Toxapex don't carry it, and you can scout for it easily if they do.

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>>30733205
Why do you lie on the internet anon?

252 SpA Adaptability Porygon-Z Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252- SpD Toxapex: 280-332 (92.1 - 109.2%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

And that's assuming the porygon z user is stupid enough to use z-conversion in front of a full health toxapex. If toxapex can even survive one turn, the best thing it can do is actually use toxic.

>>30733418
The idea of being able to fire TWO adaptability hyper beams in sucession is amusing, but the extra defenses and speed from Z-Conversion are too good to pass up. You could leave it normal type and go with tri-beam, shadow ball, and nasty plot, but you'd need to baton pass a speed boost for it do some work.

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>>30734604
>252 HP/ 252- SpD
>252-

>>30734604
You don't need to pass up Conversion on the set to use Hyper Beam.

The idea is having both Conversion and Hyper Beam, opting to use the Z-stone in two very different situations. It just gives flexibility and unpredictability really.
I use Conversion most of the time, but Z-Hyper Beam can take out almost anything, it's a fucking nuke almost on the same level as Galvanize Golem's Explosion, with the difference that my Porygon can still live and fire another Hyper Beam straight after.

>>30734694
You have to blame 4 chan for that one, it's not like you can chose negative ivs.

>>30734759
you could also use double edge for the unexpected factor of a special attacker getting physical (and doing more damage while at it...)

>>30734759
So the other two attacks would still be boltbeam or is it better to get shadow ball?

>>30729507
THICC