Am I the only one that thinks Pheromosa isn't deserving

banned from ou in showdown or something?

>>30707241
The problem is that it destroys most of the "tier" by itself and it nets you genesect levels of momentum (which will become a replacememt when genesect is banned). When paired with a ground type (duggy/excadrill) and Lele, you can run a train on your opponent

>>30707446
To be fair, a lot of OU this gen is kinda fucked.

>>30707241
>Deoxys-A 2.0
>not deserving a ban

>>30707709
doesn't hit as hard, and has no priority
it's shit

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>>30707744
>priority
>when Lele exists

>>30707787
So what you're saying is that we should ban psychic terrain?

>>30708149
OU revolves around the Tapus and Tapu counters. Something needs to be done.

>>30708224
The only real reason Lele is stupid is because she shuts off two of her biggest counter moves, Bullet Punch and Shadow Sneak.

Without Terrain, she'd just be your run of the mill Scarfer.

She needs some fat in her body

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>>30707241
WHY DID HE HAVE TO GO

>>30707241
>tfw counter it with Ninjask every time

Feels good

>>30707241
Am I the only one that thinks it'd be fun to have hours of sex with Pheromosa?

>>30707241
Adamant or jolly which one deserves better?

>>30707241
yeah you switch to marowak as it u-turns out into something that beats marowak. this is generally how it goes until it weakens things to the point where it can just use hjk or whatever to get a kill. then rinse repeat.

>>30708459
Replace glare blitz for WoW and dump the speed on hp+def/spdef and you got real Talonflame.

>>30709318
>glare blitz

What move is that? sounds sexy

>>30707744
Depends
Obviously Lunge and U-Turn don't do as much damage

252 Atk Life Orb Pheromosa High Jump Kick vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 143-169 (35.3 - 41.8%) -- 83.7% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Life Orb Deoxys Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 165-195 (40.8 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

The damage of their strongest STABs isn't that far apart and all non-resists to it get crapped on and it's a lot easier to control the field with U-turn and an ability that raises its stats for every kill.

>>30708582
No. I am not into Turkish women.

>>30707241

Ho-oh also has many checks and counters.

Does that mean we should allow Ho-oh in OU?

>>30707300
no but there are a lot of people who want it banned
most people have a-marowak on their team tho so idk why

>>30711421
oh wait
that means it's overcenteralizing isn't it
ok ban phero

>>30707241
The problem in my eyes is that since A-Marowak is the only prominent Pheromosa counter every team will run it incase of a Pheromosa. Limits team building options if everyone has A-Marowak on their team just for to counter Pheromosa.

>>30709365
Some folks call I like that as a joke, Talonflame forces people out a lot and that invites contrary serperior.

The Sand core of banded Ttar, spdef Talonflame and Glare/Sub Serperior is quite infamous. The fact that these 3 just make Excadrill and Zard X perfect fuck bodies doesn't help at all.

>>30712614
a-marowak also covers other top ou faggots, like tapu koko, xurxitree, kartana, and genesect

>>30712778
Ban them too then. They're overcentralizing.

>>30712882
IMO none of them deserve bans except Genesect. Who the fuck thought unbanning him was a good idea?

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BAN DOWN EVERYTHING

>>30707241
>checked and countered
U-turn. You HAVE to send in a counter or else you get wrecked by the U-Turn, and if you do switch your opponent then can U-turn in a counter for free. It's not just the damage, it's the insane momentum it causes by the threat of damage and sped.

>>30709590
>regular trash deoxys
>not a-deoxys
uh

>>30712946
The same guy that thought the Deoxys forms where cool on Gen6.

At least the Deoxys meme stopped this gen.

any priority move kills it, if you think it should be banned you are just bad

>>30708254
DESU I don't even think that would help, as she fucks up literally every switch in that has ever existed. She has four coverage moves that fucking massacre all of her switch ins, those being HP fire, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast, and Shadow Ball. You need two of her counters to be able to take her on, it's just silly.

>>30715201
>Pheromosa hung on with it's Focus Sash!

>>30715535
No STAB?

>>30715535
nig it doesn't even need coverage most the time. Psychic/shock kills fucking resists and moonblast fucks off the only type immune to that.

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This bitch is a bigger problem. Ive lost many matches because her psychic terrain boosted psychic wipes half my team.

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>>30717314
but she's CUTE anon!

>>30717466
fini>lele

>>30707241
Literally one shot it with a Toxapex scald and it held on with a focus sash. It's as glass cannon-y as it gets.

>>30717314
Yeah, the problem is this bitch itself, makes tons of Pokémon broken as fuck with her terrian

>>30717499
>Turkish Model ever staying in on Toxapex or not using U-Turn
sounds like your opponent had bigger issues than their stat distribution

>>30707241
Smogonbird makes it eat shit provided they haven't brought out top lel yet

>>30717826
lel helps this thing tremendously though

>>30717826
>Smogonbird
You mean Pelliper?

>>30709619
Turkish women are fuckin hot though, have you never been to Turkey you peasant?

>>30717875
I thought the smogonbird title was reserved talonflame. Has it changed that much just because of drizzle?
My favorite bird will always be staraptor regardless

>>30717909
talonflame sucks now dude, gale wings nerf killed it

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>>30708582
:3c

>>30708339
>>/t/umblr

>>30707241
not gonna happen. it's pretty much Talonflame-tier before the brave wings nerf.

bug/fighting is pretty shitty defensively with all the fairies running around.

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>>30707241
Imagine pheromosa got earth power from tutors

>>30717314
I run Assvest Incineroar to stop her non-scarf variants.

>>30718116
Assvest Malamar is better and you can abuse the psychic boost after the bitch switches out.

>>30707241
it's kinda just genesect but without the need of a scarf, if it doesn't get banned now it'll settle into the meta game and people will learn just what set works the best. That and the fact that she has a good movepool, especially when mixed so if nothing else she will get banned for the same reason regular landorus did