Can someone explain to me how this fucker is any good? That

>>30706263
The ability was poorly executed, at the very least it should have kicked in AFTER both parties have moved.

>>30706263
I love Golisopod but I fucking hate it at the same time, the one I used on my team for the main game cucked me out of the first battle with Nihilego and the battle with Tapu Koko in the credits.
Please tell me I'm not the only one

>>30706263
First Impression

>>30706299
Personally, I think it's ridiculous that the wimpy shrimp pokemon evolves into a beast like that and still runs away. Probably One of the worst pokemon this gen

>>30706341
That happened to me and it honestly was the beginning of the end of the entire game for me.

>>30706263
>hurr he looks cool

Yeah that's about all he has going for him.

>>30706341
Of course he cucked you. Why send him against Pokemon that can kill it in two hits?

>>30706263
Three priorities + strong as fuck + STAB Leech Life + muhmentum

>>30706376
You could say the same thing about Magikarp and Feebas though. Unless you hate Gyrados and Millotic too.

>>30706263
>how this fucker is any good?
it's not

>>30706263
Let's see
>Amazing bulk that can get even better
>High as all hell attack allowing even the weakest move to chunk for at least 20% on the tankier fucker
>Unique priority move that fucking annihilates anything that gets hit by it
>Can work well under trick room
>Access to tons of really great moves, many with priority
>If it survives a super effective hit, gives you a free eject button in its ability
Hmm I can't figure it out, emergency exit is so bad man my god it's not like a free switch could ever benefit anyone what so ever amirite? ;^)

>>30706538
>75 base hp
>40 base speed
>two priority moves, only one with STAB
>destroyed by two common types
>No actual ability
>good pokemon

Fuck off, faggot.

>>30706725
It has three priority moves, retard.

>>30706725
Three anon, two of which got STAB

Is it any good in Doubles?

>>30706538
Being forced out before you can attack is a pretty shitty version of a free switch.

>>30706739
>>30706786
doesn't make it less shit

>>30706538
A free switch is nice, but not in the middle of a turn before you've attacked, and especially not when you're at an advantage with the pokemon currently out.

>>30706263
It's just another giant middle finger to the Psychic type from Game Freak

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>>30706521
You must be dangerously retarded. Gyarados and milotic have actual abilities that do things. How does your argument even apply?

>>30706263
Embrace the free switch. Use only priority moves.
"The" competitive set is Ass Vest, First Impression/Leech Life/Aqua Jet/Sucker Punch.
Priority always, Leech stuff that can't hit you for for half, run as support for a Choice user, run spinner/defogger for support.

>>30706725
>two priority moves
Breed for Aqua Jet.

>>30706803
Actually, yes it does. Its whole niche is that it has 3 great priority moves (2 which get STAB) that he can pretty much use and abuse. Even if Emergency Exit switches him instantly, the fact he can get priority from that huge attack stat is already a great thing

He's good because he's fun.

>>30706822
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>30706913
Psychic is weak to Bug

>>30706739
>Aqua Jet and Sucker Punch
>3
Unless you're also trying to include Wide guard, in which case, get your helmet back on and sit down.

>>30706263
Assault Vest
First Impresion
Sucker Punch
Aqua Jet
Leech Life

There, it's pretty good

Alternatively, put it in a Trick Room Team

>>30706933
But he's fucking shit so how is it a middle finger to Psychic types?

>>30706940
>first impression is not priority
>inb4 "muh first turn"
Sucker Punch also is situational.

>>30706966
First Impression is a 90 power Bug-type priority attack. And it learns Sucker Punch too.

>>30707009
Except that If you send out Tapu Lele Golispod literally can't use any of those moves

>>30707009
Nowhere it's description does first impression say it has priority

>>30706263
First Impression, Sucker Punch, Protect/Aqua Jet, Toxic. Invest Bulky. Probably Adamant or Impish nature.

>>30707050
By that logic I guess Water Bubble doesn't double the power of Water attacks

And Synchronize doesn't pass natures

>>30706865
I'm not going to cater an entire team to this shitmon

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>>30707090
We're talking about attacks, not abilities

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>>30707050

>>30707009
>Psychic Terrain

i use it as a lead to poke damage into the enemies until it reaches half hp

then i finish enemies with my other sweepers and switch back to golisopod if i have to for type advantage or something like that

seems to be working mostly fine for me, it's incredibly bulky with assault vest

>>30707050
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/First_Impression_(move)
+2 newfriend

>>30706341
>sent out a Bug/Water-type against a Rock-type and an Electric-type

You deserved it desu

>>30707047
Leech Life is 80 BP now.

>>30707225
Doesn't matter because he'll die or switch before he gets to use it

>>30707144
Can you show me in-game where I can see that? I didnt think so.
Because Reading the description of the attack gives no hint of that.

>>30706877
he gets walled by a shit load of things, expecially in a meta filled by bulky fairy and water types
And 40/80 BP priority coming from a 125 atk isn't even that great anymore

>>30707261
So is Lele literally just "Hope ya have Sableye: The Pokemon" ?

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>>30707265
nigger

how retarded are you

Just use Emergency Exit to your advantage.

Golisopod is your cleaner; he gets stronger as your opponents get weaker. First Impression make him ideal at cleaning.

The real problem is knowing how to use Emergency Exit to your advantage and when the right time is for you to use First Impression.

IMPORTANT:

1. Emergency Exit only activates from direct damage. if entry hazards, status effects, and so on bring Golisopod down to half health or less, it Emergency Exit won't activate. The damage has to be done from directly attacking.

2. If the opponent uses a move like U-Turn, and if it brings Golisopod down to half health or less, Emergency Exit will activate, but it will prevent the opponent from switching out, leaving you with a free switch-in to whatever you want.

>>30707047
252+ Atk Golisopod Leech Life vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tapu Lele: 178-210 (63.3 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Tapu Lele Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Golisopod: 108-127 (30.5 - 35.8%) -- 40.2% chance to 3HKO

>hurr i can just switch in my tapu lele
and that's not even ignoring the fact that even if the lele comes in, fires off a psychic, golis just heals right back up with leech life.

>>30707420

>status effects don't activate Emergency Exit

thats a lie. Cause i toxic stalled a Golisopod one time and EE still activated.

It just only activates once per battle so if you heal via leech life or wish or whatever and are brought back to half health, it wont switch you out.

>>30707261
>What is Tapu Bulu partner in Doubles
No shit that Pokemon have counters. If you can't account for anti-priority on your team in any case, whether you're using Golisopod or not, then you're a shitter.

>>30707494
One, he's probably talking about Showdown. Ingame, it will switch out if you're brought down to below half by status.

>>30707477
You do realise Psychic Terrain boosts the damage of Psychic moves

>>30707494
>one time
Are you sure about that?
I remember it happening twice sometimes.

>>30706508
>STAB Leech Life
this is only good if
>bug wasn't resisted by everything
>is your last pokemon
>the ability worked at the end of the turn and not right after the damage calculation

>>30707477
Psychic Terrain allows Lele to knock Golisopod to at least exactly 50%, so you wouldn't want to send Golisopod out there until it's gone.

>>30707545
My bad. Still:

252 SpA Tapu Lele Psyshock vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golisopod: 148-175 (41.8 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Psychic does bring it below half, but Psyshock will be the more common move due to Chanseys and the like running around.

And this still doesn't ignore the fact that Lele will have difficulty switching on a Golisopod.

>>30706725
> thinking hp matters with 140 defense

>>30707588
>bug resisted by everything
>meanwhile swolemememan and roach lady of balance punch holes on any pokemon

eh eh eh

>>30707618
>Psyshock
>implying I wouldn't realize you changed psychic

>>30707650
He mentions he changed it though.

>>30706376
It's not ridiculous, it's thematically cohesive and funny as fuck. This massive, hulking badass retains its personality as a cowardly, goofy species. I think it's really neat.

HOWEVER, it was executed poorly. The ability name should be some shit like Tactical Retreat (pretending to back out for a clever offensive maneuver) and its stats should have been waaay higher, or the ability should've worked differently.

If he had juuust a little more bulk and damage, and the ability set off at the end of the turn, people would have a totally different view of this thing I feel.

>ITT: people not understanding what a revenge killer in a stall team is

keep playing with your mindless MUH AGGRO sets, peasants

>>30707634
because of the fighting type, other coverage moves and them actually being faster than golisopod, ready to say you were just pretending to be retarded?

>>30707588
Actually, if you don't use first impression (since everyone expects it anyways) and replace it with swords dance, it can get some kills and keep healing.

But yeah... only if its the last mon on your team. Or else you lose the buff when switching out.

>>30706376
>>30707692
did you bois even read the description of Emergency Exit?

Wimp Out:
>The Pokémon cowardly switches out when its HP becomes half or less.

Emergency Exit:
>The Pokémon, sensing danger, switches out when its HP becomes half or less.

Also, Emergency Exit is called Crisis Prevention in Japanese

>>30707265
http://prntscr.com/di8ggy

Are you going to tell me that Fake Out doesn't have priority because the move description doesn't outright say it?

>>30706263
Emergency Exit gives you free switch and momentum. Kinda hard to master.

>>30707757
>what is priority+momentum

literally no different from roach lady of balance, keep crying tho, golisopod is a good mon

>>30707830
man golisopodfags are as delusional as vikavoltfags, you already have 2 superior bugs with those same types combos, just use them instead

>>30707138
So I guess Sketch can copy Chatter? Because in-game, it never tells you!

>>30707893

t. cuck mad got he got fucked in the ass by golisopod king of priority

>>30707893
not him but

but I want to use Golisopod

I like it a lot for the Battle of Alola format. It destroys popular threats like Greninja and Pheromasa, and following a priority move with a free switch to your own Greninja or UB/Magearna to get a kill is great.

>>30707618
>Lele will have difficulty switching on a Golisopod.

>most Golisopods run 2-3 priority moves

what did you mean by this?

>>30707957
Leech Life, probably

>>30706299
This is how it should have worked

>>30707957
Yeah but if you look at Lele's model, she's floating so Psychic Terrain doesn't affect her! Swolisopod and Bugcucks win again!
I actually am a Bugcuck though. God I wish Golisopod and Vikavolt were usable. At least Araquanid is okay with Pelipper and Politoed everywhere

>>30707980
>Running a move with no priority on a Pokemon with 40 speed that takes 25% damage from Sneaky Pebbles and instantly switches out when any attack takes it below 50% HP

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>>30706263
>keeps its water/bug typing
>same gen introduces an even better water bug

>>30707265
Oh shit, its the "you can't prove code exists" guy.

>>30708043
I was referring to how it would not be ideal for Tapu Lele to switch into a Leech Life from Golisopod.

You aren't wrong, but I was talking about something else.

>>30707935
any steel type lafs at your oversized bug, especially my magnezone

>>30707548
it activates every time you lose HP to the point where you have 50% HP or less

if you recover HP and are brought to 51%, then get hit to 49%, it will activate

if you recover HP and go from 25% to 50%, it won't

Wouldnt mind if it only activated from one hit taking it to half health from full. big man is just above half, takes small amount of damage goes below half and promptly flees

>>30706263
Am I the only one who thinks that this thing and its pre-evo should've been fossil pokemon?

he's good because he allows you a free switch and his base stats are amazing !!

>>30708409
Yes you are the only one.
The last thing it needs is rock typing bringing it down like the rest of them.

>>30708043
>priority move that only works on first turn in first impression
>priority move that only works if the opponent attacks in sucker punch
>a relatively weak water priority move in aqua jet
you're going to need to run one more move, and it's better to use a move that can heal you in leech life. maybe on rain teams you run liquidation

either way, you're an idiot

Only shitters that run Smogon copypasted teams can't use it well.

>>30708409
and who would be the other one? araquanid? toxapex? neither them or golisopod need a rock typing while staying slow
and what would it be? bug/rock? ANOTHER water/rock?

>>30708493
>water/rock
but that'd be actually good.

bug type drags it down so much because of all the bird spam. rock type would be a huge boost to it

>>30708426
fossils aren't brought down because of rock type, it's because they suck

>>30707980

so a 25% chance so switch in is considered difficult?

>>30708445
>it's better to use a move that can heal you in leech life

For what purpose?

The only time Leech Life will ever hit is when your opponent switches when he's on full health.

Since everybody is going to predict First Impression they're obviously not going to send in anything weak to Bug.

Following turn literally anything will knock him below 50% hp and he'll switch out.

>>30708545
>bird spam
this isnt gen 6 anymore

>>30706402
But that's literally the end of the game already

>>30707634
those pokemon are good

>>30708619
last one standing? not like poison jab is going to help you against steel types anyway

>>30706263
Golisopods ability should've been a reverse Wimp out.

Terrifying presence
>When this Pokemon reduces an Opponents HP to half or less they switch out

>>30709136
Immediate ubers.

>>30706263
If Golisopod had way more Special Bulk and Emergency Exit healed you+Switched you out at the end of the turn, it would be a beastly pivot.

>>30706263

>Use First Impression
>Did Emergency Exit activate?
>No: Use Aqua Jet or Sucker Punch to get off some more damage
>Yes: Switch out, come back later and repeat, use Leech Life to keep yourself above 50% of Emergency Exit can activate again

>>30706263
literally no reason for it to exist
if I wanted a slow, bulky bug-type to shit out priority moves there are a billion reasons to use scizor and zero to use this stupid fuck

too bad they wasted a good design on a shitmon, but i guess that's the order of the day in Alola. No wonder Kukui got his shit pushed in when he tried to go toe-to-toe with the Elite Four of Kanto

>>30706341
Same here, except only for Nihilego, when I battled Tapu Koko my Primeria OHKO'd it with scald...

really frustrating that there isn't an option for a secondary ability - e.g. pickup. something that won't affect battles but makes playing the games more comfy. a golisopod with pickup would be a good bro to me.

>>30706803
do you wanna fucking battle MY Golisipod, Faggot?!

It runs interestingly in doubles but you need protect for sure on it
because people see that they just need to get it to below 50% to force it out and then figure they can almost always afford to make that choice

>>30709136
>Free switch into faster pokemon
>Free switch into anti-priority pokemon
>Free switch into Tapu Lele

Nah

>>30709665
meant for >>30709312

>there are people that are too low IQ to use mind-games bug of priority and calculated switching

>>30709665
Golisopod is bad right now because of entry hazards.
An auto push that works the same as Exit does now would deny opponents their turns, force them into hazards, and if you had an ability that can automatically bench things you'd still run at least half priority. Maybe Liquidation or something instead of Aqua Jet.

>>30709798
Tfw your opponent has one pokemon with queenly majesty, another with dazzling, and another pokemon with extremespeed ;)

>>30706263
Whether it's good or not, Golisopod is fun as fuck to use. Strong, but you actually have to think about how best to use it and work around its weird ability that can either be a huge help or a huge hindrance.
Golisopod is what Slaking should've been like, basically.

>>30709941
>queenly majesty
Leech Life
>dazzling
Leech Life
>extremespeed
only think you have to worry about.

>>30709378
Emergency Exit only goes off once a battle.

>>30709644
go to bed Guzma

>>30711014
No it doesn't

>>30711014
>spotted the Smogon only player

>>30711014

That's been proven false. It your HP rises back above 50%, it'll go off again when it drops again.

>>30706299
I honestly believe it's an oversight that it doesn't work this way

It's literally the same as Wimpod's ability. Why would they add two abilities that do the EXACT same thing, for the same evolutionary family? They could have just gave Wimp Out to Golisopod too if that was the intent

>>30711824

It's a flavor thing.

Wimpod is running away because it's a coward.

Golisopid is just making a tactical retreat.

>>30711824
>Why would they add two abilities that do the EXACT same thing, for the same evolutionary family?
It's literally just a joke, man. You can either read it as a joke about how running away in cowardice or making a tactical retreat because you're fucked function exactly the same. Or as a joke about how Golisopod is still a filthy coward, but tries to make itself look like it's making a smart move.

This isn't like the changes to Cute Charm and Synchronize where it's obvious they fucked up the coding. There's nothing to suggest Wimp Out and Emergency Exist are anything but flavor name changes. Especially since we also have Receiver/Power of Alchemy, Queenly Majesty/Dazzling, and both Solgaleo and Lunala's abilities being renames of older ones. It's just what they wanted to do for Gen VII.

>>30706263

Golisopod kind of feels like what a lot of Pokemon should be. Definite niche that it approaches differently from its contemporaries (momentum/skirmishing), unique strengths modified by a unique weakness that can be leveraged by opponents, fun design and theme that feeds into gameplay (coward isopod shogun), etc.

Might not be the strongest, but I enjoy it a lot more than the fairly faceroll-y "terrain setters who take the most advantage of their terrain" Tapus or "Min-Max Momentum Master Race" UBs.

Currently running mine on a team built around constantly switching and forcing constant switches, works really well with Wish, U-Turn/Volt Switch, Mememnto, etc.

You probably won't have as much success just slapping it on a VGC Meme Team but I'd love to see it in competitive.

>>30711943

>Or as a joke about how Golisopod is still a filthy coward, but tries to make itself look like it's making a smart move.

I like to think it's this, with "First Impression" making it seem super tough and scary (hence how it leaves a first impression) but afterwards it kind of runs out of steam and skedaddles.

It's kind of like Wimpod never really "got rid" of its cowardice, but instead learned to work with/around it. A really solid concept.

>>30711824

why would a big mean crab monster "wimp out"? it's clearly just advancing in the opposite direction

>>30708108
"What is Sucker Punch?" for 500$

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>Next Gen gives it the hidden ability that makes it unswitchable
>It's attached to Hidden Grotto levels of grind
How mad would you be?

It's a solidly UU mon. It's not getting very far in OU outside of niches because of Tapu Lele, but its build is useful and workable enough for UU.

>>30709823

Ah jeez, it's...it's almost like entry hazards are a game mechanic you have to either play around or neutralize.

It's like saying Golisopod is OP and uncounterable just because it gets a free momentum switch that lets it dip out of stat drops and lock-ins. You've got more than one mon for a reason.

>>30706521
>Gyrados and Millotic
Triggered
It's Gyarados and Milotic

>>30712294
gyrodos

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>>30711870
>if i keep repeating this on every thread, it makes the effect of the ability different

When are you faggots going to shut up and realize that it's ability is LITERALLY made to abuse First Impression? That is the only reason why it switches still retains Wimp Out as an ability.

Just put Ass Vest on the motherfucker, pick three of the best priority moves you can think of (so First Impression, Sucker Punch, and Aqua Jet) and play smart and retain insane momentum for the entire game as a reward

>B-b-but Tapu Lele, Bruxish and Tsareena

Golisopod kills 2 out of 3 of the mons with Leech Life and gains enough health to reuse Exit, and Tapu Lele is a huge cunt mon that needs to die to Ubers. That being said, Golisopod is a solid mon so long as you actually play intelligently, but seeing as how this is /vp/, I don't see that happening

>>30712122
252+ Atk Life Orb Golisopod Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Magnezone: 49-58 (33.7 - 40%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
the correct answer is "a thunderbolt in the face", sorry but you're out of lives and out of the game

>>30706341
>being overleveled at the first nihilego encounter

I named mine Nigel Farage

>>30706521
Reading comprehension bucko. He isn't confused wimp pokemon becomes badass. He's confused that it keeps a shit ability thats the exact same. Gyarados gets intimidate. Milotic gets marvel scale. Golisopod gets a shitty ass renamed Wimp Out.

it should work sorta like sturdy where it switches out from a move that would KO it

>>30707627
>Wishiwashi
>Shuckle
>Pyukumuku
Fuck off.

>>30707050
You got google and decades of knowledge that tell you that gamefreak fails to tell you everything.

>>30709136
I'd prefer it if golosipod switches out before the move that brings it below 50% health hits him. Gamefreak made him a revenge killer, might as well make him a worthwhile one.

>>30712137
About as mad when I saw that ability capsule doen't allow you to switch into hidden abilities. Like really, who the hell thought that on top of wasting your time with ridiculously low encounter rates for alot of gen 7 mons, lock even more away with Sos battles, now you either have to battle even more with a poke to tell you if said mon has the hidden ability, or just use PKhex. To the person who made catching a regenerator Toxapex that tedious, what is wrong with you?

100 BP to solve a problem that you would have remedied during breeding.

>>30706801
With triple priority you ain't forcing that thing out without it getting a hit on you.

>>30709941
Yeah, keep that grass type in on something with STAB leech life that you also can't 1 hit KO, see how long it lasts.

>>30706538
>Literally cannot attack if it gets to 50% anf the enemy has priority
>Gets utterly buttfucked when any of the anti-priority introduced this gen is under effect
>Trick room lmao
>Gets a good move once, then it relies on fucking Aqua Jet

It does have a use, but its ability is shittier than nothing 9/10 times. HA Stench would be a fucking godsend to this thing.

>>30707477
>lele comes in, fires off a psychic, golis just heals right back up with leech life.
Should say
>lele comes in, fires off a psychic, golis just switches out without doing anything.

>>30712137
A little annoyed that I would have to go to an injection thread.

>>30707420
>1. Emergency Exit only activates from direct damage. if entry hazards, status effects, and so on bring Golisopod down to half health or less, it Emergency Exit won't activate. The damage has to be done from directly attacking.
Wrong. Ingame Scolipod used by ya boi switched out when Leech Seed dropped it below 50% twice in the same battle.

I've been stuck on Olivia, mainly thanks to useless turds like Wimpod, but this nigger just evolved and swept her single-handedly with some switching shenanigas.
Damn it's strong. It keeps shutting fucking everything with priorities.

>>30707634
>What are Fighting type STAB and coverage
>Who exactly is busting holes into Based as Fuck Alolan Marrowak?

If it's good enough for your boi, it's good enough for you

>>30712137
Once someone gets a HA it'll spread. Trading and breeding won't take long.

>>30711824
This, especially since Minior's Shields Down doesn't drop til after both actions

>>30714162

A few people even run Life Orb on it so that the residual damage pulls it out if was just shy of being set up for a 2HKO on its first turn out.

Also because LO First Impression with +Attack nature and full investment hits like a truck against anything that doesn't resist it.

>>30707692
>if it was better, it'd be better

>>30714291
I think this argument even applies to Unown. It's rock fucking solid, you can't deny this.

>>30714242

But the thing is, functionally, the two are very similar.

Shields Down doesn't activate until the end of the turn because if it did, any setup it attempted would be mindlessly easy to thwart because you would force it to deal with both of its weaknesses (slow shield form, fragile after Shields Down) on the same turn, while only letting take advantage of half of one of its strength (high defenses until half health).

Likewise, if Emergency Exit happened at the end of the turn, it would actually be possible to 2HKO it on the same turn, which is currently impossible because it gets out of dodge as soon as that first attack gets it below half. After that point, it successfully shakes any volatile debuffs/statuses that might've stopped it from being a threat AND gets access to an extremely powerful STAB priority move again.

It's not braindead to use but it's designed the way it is for a reason, far from an "oversight."

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>>30714444
Quads confirm

Like, fuckin' check that shit man