>Burning Terrain >Each turn, every non-Fire Grounded pokemon

It would be intresting, and honestly it should be given to a shitmon that hardly gets any usage, like Heatmor/Macargo.

>Burning Terrain + Drought in Doubles

>>30697282
Game freak will probably not add any fire or water terrains because they could be stacked with weather

>>30697282
>what is Grass Pledge + Fire Pledge

>>30697282
>Burning Terrain
>Each turn, every non-Fire Grounded pokemon receives 6% damage.
>Fire-type moves are boosted
This would be fine
>Pokemon cannot heal under Burning Terrain
This is too much really, a heal block that is applied to the field and not the pokémon so you can't just switch out of it is already good on its own, chip damage.
>Assuming it came with a setter, would this along with a sneaky pebbles ban make Smogonruleset playable at last?
Nah, it would just result in other teams having a even bigger reason to run your own terrain setters, possibly even two. Assuming the pokémon with Burning Terrain isn't completely broken itself, since then it would just be banned,

Great now you made ice types even shittier

>>30697818
>>30697763
>>30697643
>>30697600
>Instead of boosting Fire damage it weakens Water damage

>>30697282
Does red appear here in the fire terrain?

You know what red it is

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>>30697282
This would be hilarious with Turtonator desu. Since it takes hits like a mountain, can set a trap to force a switch, and takes neutral damage from water, it would actually be fucking stupid.

Now I'm kinda mad this isn't a thing for that reason. Otherwise I doubt this would past muster with Boosting Fire AND an AoE Heal Block. Considering you could stack Sun on top of it, fire would be way too op. Might as well say 'it boils water type pokemon and kills them instantly'.

>haunted terrain
>for each fainted pokemon on your team, ghost moves get a 20% boost (so with 5 KO's all moves are doubled)
>the side with the least # of fainted pokemon is also afflicted with a curse (ghosts are immune)

>>30697949
This terrain would only be used by absolute shitters, since if you're actually good at the game ad winning it only fucks you over.

>>30697282
Too much. Especially considering Mega Groudon is in the top three of most powerful Pokemon right now.

I thought they were going with roughly every type gets either weather or terrain:

>Water: Rain
>Ice: Hail
>Fire: Sunny Day
>Rock/Ground/Steel: Sandstorm
>Electric: Electric Terrain
>Psychic: Psychic Terrain
>Grass: Grassy Terrain
>Fairy: Fairy Terrain
>Normal/Flying/Fighting/Dragon: Air Lock/Neutral

Really we just need
>Dark/Bug/Ghost: Eclipse
>Dark Pokemon get +1 Evasion
>Boosts the power of Dark and Bug moves by 50%
>Sleep moves like Hypnosis become 100% accuracy

Then, all types have an environment effect they can benefit from.

>>30697282
Change 6% to 1/16, the standard weather damage.

Ability: Perfectionist
All stats are treated as if they had a positive Nature

WHERE IS MY AUTO-TRICK ROOM SETTER GAMEFREAK

WHERE IS IT

>>30698110
Would be banned instantly in OU and would make VGC extremely cancerous. Horrible idea.

>>30698255
You mean more than it already is?

>>30697949
Now we are playing Yu-Gi-Oh!

>>30698237
>Auto Trick Room setter
>Has 100 base speed

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>>30697282
Say hello to your new god

>>30698388
>basically give every pokémon with access to either Grass Whistle, Sing, Sleep Powder, Hypnosis or Lovely Kiss access to Spore
I would say so, yes.

>>30698462
That would be fine. I've actually used Gengar as a Trick Room setter in the past just because the amount of good Pokemon who get it is so low. Just Trick Room and swap him out; they never see it coming.

Still, I want a proper setter who can take a hit if need be.

>>30698478
I get what you're saying senpai but Sleep should be banned in competitive anyway, it's a retarded condition made specifically for raising catch rate when catching Pokemon.

>>30697282
>stack it with Drought

>Heatran using Flamethrower from Base 130 Spa + Stab + Drought + Burning Terrain

Pls no

>>30697841
sunny day already does this. Boosts fire moves and weakens water moves

>>30698522
Well luckily Sleep is less common in gen VII due to Koko's Electric Terrain being ever-present.

>>30697643
>water terrains
>misty terrain
>Game freak will probably not add any fire or water terrains
>misty terrain
>not add any fire or water terrains
>misty terrain
>not add any water terrains
>water terrains
>misty terra-
>water terrains
>terrains
>water
>water terra-
>terrains
>terra- water te-
>misty terrain
>misty
>not add any water terrains

People's intelligence are shocking.

>>30698579
Misty Terrain is for Fairy types

You utter, utter retard.

I like the idea of a terrain that stops healing.
What'd be a thematically good terrain for it though? Burning can't happen due to Sunny Day. Maybe Icy Terrain?

>>30698684
Let's be honest, mist is more associated with ice/water than fairies, you know cause like "misty lakes" n shit. Also, for all the tapus, fairy is their secondary type, and all the terrains they have are their primary type, except for tapu fini, who has misty terrain, and what's her primary type? Oh yeah, water.

Misty terrain's supposed to be water, not fairy. Game Freak fucked up.

>>30698579
>somebody actually took the time to write this whole post without first checking if Misty Terrain is even remotely tied to Water at all.

>>30698757
Misty terrain was a thing before this generation anon. It literally boosts fairy moves and does jack shit for water. Tapu Fini got it as an afterthought. Your headcanon does not supercede reality

>>30697282
>Normal Terrain
>Boosts Normal type moves by 50% and neutralize all the other type moves to no longer super effective or not effective

>>30698757
Stop this, you fucking idiot.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Misty_Terrain_(move)

Mist = FAIRIES. It's a FAIRY type moves which benefits FAIRY type Pokemon. There is NO benefit to Water type Pokemon at all. You are WRONG.

Believe me I would have loved Water Terrain especially since Tapu Fini is Water but it's not.

>>30698579
>Misty Terrian buffs Faires, not Water types
Your intelligence is shocking.

>>30698542
Throw some specs or a life orb on there and you've got yourself a new tier entirely

Quicksand Terrain
Grounded Pokemon cannot switch out
Grounded Non-Ground/Rock/Steel types have -1 speed

>>30698894
And a new tier for Celesteela, Skarmory, Scizor and Ferrothorn is born

>>30698834
It's more like it benefits every type except fairy, since they are immune to dragon.

>>30698804
>>30698834
>It literally boosts fairy moves
>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Misty_Terrain_(move)
>benefits FAIRY type Pokemon
>There is NO benefit to Water type Pokemon at all

>http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Misty_Terrain_(move)
>It prevents pokemon from non-volatile status conditions or Yawn
>It halves the damage taken from Dragon-type attacks

>Fairy types are immune to Dragon already
>Dragon-type attacks halved
>There is NO benefit for Water type Pokemon at all.
>does jack shit for water

>Prevents status FOR ALL POKEMON
>There is NO benefit for Water type Pokemon at all.
>does jack shit for water

>No mention of fairy-type moves being boosted
>It literally boosts fairy moves

>Provides quantitatively more buffs to non-fairy types than fairy-types

I'm kekking so hard.

>>30698757
>gamefreak didn't do things like I wanted them to, so they fucked up.
kys retard

>>30699021
I'm neither of them, and you are correct that Misty Terrain doesn't boost Fairy attacks.
The terrain is still connected to the Fairy type, between it being a Fairy move, like 95% of all pokémon learning the move being Fairy, and nerfing Dragon being a known quality of Fairy, even if it helps out your team mates instead of the Fairy in question.

It's not connected to Water and more than it is connected to say Psychic.

>>30699129
Except, you know... "Misty".

>>30699142
It's the name of the fucking move, it doesn't matter.
Next you're going to say Fairy Wind is connected to Flying types.

>>30699196
But that's clearly a fairy type move. Some people, honestly...

>>30699255
How is Fairy Wind clearly a Fairy move bu Misty Terrain isn't?

>>30698579
Your intelligence is low tier. You aren't a true pokemon player.

>>30699255
Except, you know... "Wind".

>>30699269
>How is Fairy Wind a Fairy move
>Fairy Wind a Fairy move
>Fairy Wind a Fairy
>Fairy Wind
>Fairy
>Fairy

For Misty Terrain being more suitably a water type move over fairy, see >>30698757

>>30699317
Do you think Ice Punch is a fighting move? Or Icy Wind is a flying type move?

I've never kekked so hard in my life holy fuck

>>30697282
Just make a terrain where all pokemon that switches in faints intantly.

That's what you retards want, right? Thinking to get kills is too hard, after all.

>>30699378
Stop trying to sound smart.

It's obvious that you're an uneducated, young person. Just go away.

>>30699599
KEK

>>30699378
>Do you think Ice Punch is a fighting move? Or Icy Wind is a flying type move?
Or that Oblivion Wing is a flying type move, right?

>>30699712
dont try and b8 anon, its not funny

>>30699712
Don't reply to him anymore unless you like talking to a kid or troll. He's not smart enough to give out sustainable arguments.

>>30698036
It could make for a good late-game cleaner with a scarf.

>>30699769
>sustainable arguments
> >>30698757
> >>30699021

>>30698110
Better version:
Eerie Terrain: Boosts the power of Dark and Ghost-type moves by 33%, negates all passive healing, and causes sleeping Pokemon to take 10% damage at the end of every turn.

Make more sense to combine dark and ghost than dark and bug, 33% is more manageable than 50%, reduces healing without shutting it down completely, and adds pseudo-nightmare to sleep rather than increasing the amount of sleep going around.

>>30699994
Wouldn't that make it too OP? Negating healing is a BIG thing. If we're going to do that I'd just make
>Poisoned Terrain: Toxic Spikes only needs one layer to inflict "badly poisoned"; negates all healing

Plus it needs a better name. "Terrain" seems less widespread than "weather" so I think "Eclipse" suits a sudden onset of darkness. It's not like you can summon in "Night Time" or something like you can a sudden Sunny Day. Also, Bug really needs a boost considering it's resisted by seven types; the most of any. Short of changing how types work, I think making Bugs come out at night would be fine. 33% modifiers though, yeah, I'm all for that.

>Water Terrain
>Fire types on ground are weakened
>Dry Skin on ground activates to heal
>Surf gets priority
>Any electric attack that hits a grounded pokemon also multi-targets all other grounded pokemon

>>30700492
I think the point is to negate SOME healing, but not all. For example, Rest, Recover, and Roost would work just fine, but Leftovers, Leach Seed, Ingrain, and Aqua Ring would be negated. That would cut down on healing without hard-countering stall.

>>30700540
What about Misty Terrain? Isn't that Water?

There is nothing about Fairy in "Misty Terrain"
There is something about Fairy in "Fairy Wind"
There is something about Ice in "Ice Punch" and "Icy Wind"

I'm surprised acid rain isn't a weather condition.
Would be cool to see a Poison type like Weezing or Garbador get a weather setting ability for it.

>>30700781
what even is this thread

Don't people understand that terrains are supposed to be pseudo weather effects for the types that have no actual weather effects in real life?

Like, there's no such thing as "grass storm" or something. You can't have a terrain as the same type as a weather effect because that defeats the purpose of terrains.

>>30700882
did not mean to reply to >>30700781

oops

>Buffing fire types
STOP

>>30700781
Hey guys, why don't we just have weather/terrain stack? If I use Sunny Day 3 times, I'll have triple sunny day that buffs fire moves 3 times, nerfs water moves 3 times and sextuples my speed with chlorophyll

HAHA WEATHER IS SO FUN RIGHT GUYS? LET'S JUST HAVE EVERY WEATHER AND TERRAIN AT ONCE, GIVE ME ALL THE BUFFS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Fighting Dojo Terrain
>All moves have 100% accuracy

>>30700882
Nah, it's more fun if we can have a fire terrain, and if sunny day is used, they fuse together to create Desolate Land.

>>30701093
If I use Sandstorm 3 times it buffs my rock type's special defence 3 times and every turn does 18% damage. GOOD IDEA, R-RIGHT GUYS!?

>>30701170
>they fuse together to create Desolate Land
but then people will only use fire and water

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>>30701114
>Scarfed fissure dugtrio

>>30701199
>they fuse together to create Desolate Land
>but then people will only use fire and water
>to create Desolate Land
>only use fire and water
>create Desolate Land
>fire and water
>Desolate Land
>water
>Desolate Land
>but then people will only use ... water
>Desolate La-
>Desolate Land
>Wat-Desolate Land
>Desolat- Water
>Lan-Desolate Land
>Wate- Land
>Desolate Land
>Water

>>30700781
yeah it would be pretty cool,maybe give it the ability to negate steel's immunity to poison type attack and have it deal damage to non poison types

>>30701441
And make it buff poison moves
And have it poison non-poison pokemon on entry
And make it heal poison types
And remove all resistances to poison unless they are a poison type too
And make toxic poison do twice as much damage
And make poison type's speed double
And
And
And

You're all fucking idiots.

>>30700882
I agree with you; I was about to go apeshit because obviously acid rain is a thing.
>>30700781
This sounds fucking brilliant. Just like there needs to be a Night weather/terrain for Dark, there needs to be Acid Rain.

>>30699142
I find it hilarious that your whole point is basically "it includes Misty so it has to be Water" when the move literally called Mist is Ice.

>>30699142
>Mist is Ice
>Misty Terrain is Fairy
>Mist Ball is Psychic
>Aromatic Mist is Fairy
>Haze(Black Mist in Japanese) is Ice
Yeah those are all fuck ups, they were all intended to be Water moves.