Has anyone datamined the in-game locations for Sun and Moon yet?

Safari balls references the great marsh

Interested bump

>muh remakes

fuck off sinnohfetus.

>>30665596
There's a few references here and there, but the biggest one is Null. Clearly an Arceus rip-off. But the chances of a Sinnoh remake are really, really low.

>>30665638
Wouldn't the Great Marsh just get nerfed like Hoenn's Safari Zone though? You can still get Pokemon within Safari balls if you transfer through Pokebank when it eventually updates.
>>30665681
>Curiosity means it's your favorite region
Kek.

>>30665596
>>30665596
No, but 2nd Hoenn remakes confirmed

Bumping this thread for fellow sinnohbros

>>30665638
They've referenced the great marsh in every game since DPPt

>>30665596
Honey's description says you can slather it on special trees again.

>>30665698
The great marsh was trash, so I honestly hope they nerf it so I never have to explore it ever again.

>>30665681
Literally every gen is going to get a remake. Not liking them won't stop this.

>8 years since last Sinnoh game, playable in 3DS
>13 years since last Kanto game, ridiculously outdated

If anything, we're getting a Kanto remake.

>>30665890
They're probably going to save that for a 25th or 30th anniversary celebration.

>>30665875
Yeah I can't wait for those FRLG remakes! And the HGSS remakes! And the ORAS remakes! And the FRLG remake remakes! And the BW1 remake and the BW2 remake!

Fuck off with this shit. Remakefags are the worst fucking cancer dragging this franchise down.

>>30665921
And they're going to save Sinnoh remake for even longer than that, then.
There's no reason to remake Sinnoh.

>>30665890
Neither will be playable on the Switch.
Checkmate, loser.

>>30665959
There was no reason to remake Hoenn either. Literally the very reason it was remade due to high fan demand, and the same will follow suit for Sinnoh if fans are vocal enough.

New Sinnoh Champion Ribbon

>>30665638
Did ever since DP

>>30665977
They didn't even Physical/Special split or Wifi support. You had to use a fucking Link Cable. They were ridiculously outdated. That's why they remade it.
For Sinnoh, the only things it lacks are the new Pokemon. That alone isn't enough to make people buy Sinnoh remakes.

>>30666038
>crasher wake in glorious 3D
This is reason enough fampai

>>30666038
>implying almost anyone cared about RSE themselves being outdated for ORAS
>implying they didn't just want the Hoenn adventure or Battle Frontier with modern mechanics whatever that may entail
>implying three generations isn't enough of a gap
>implying they wouldn't add new regional forms or some shit of Unovan and Kalosian Pokemon like ORAS had new Megas as a selling point as well

>>30665959
>There's no reason to remake Sinnoh
I would've agreed with you a few years ago, but alternate forms are becoming a bigger thing in the games now with Megas and Alolans, and it seems to me that if they're going to be preoccupied with new features in the first entries of each gen then they could let the remakes/third versions/sequels carry Megas and whatnot.

>>30666038
Outdated mechanics like lack of physical/special split don't really strike me as legitimate reasons for a remake, when back when those games were made things were balanced with those mechanics in-mind. Leaf Blade used to be a not-shit option for Sceptile for example.

>>30665977
Hoenn was still on GBA cart, it needed to be updated in that respect. Instead of remaking FRLG they put it on the shop. Every region is now on DS so DPPt remakes shouldn't happen, but I think they will regardless. Once a series gets into remaking older instalments, they usually just keep going every decade that the next not-remade-yet instalment ages.

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>>30665596
Speaking of datamining, was anything found regarding the Kanto Pokemon from R/B/Y?

They asked about how they were going to survive the transfer, and this is how Junichi Masuda responded:

> “I wonder how they’re going to change. I hope that’s something people will look forward to seeing how it works.”


Seems ambiguous as fuck.

>>30666102
>Literally everything in Kanto in 3D
>A better story, since FRLG had none
>10 years of timeskip
>New areas
>New Gym Leaders
>New evil team
Unless they go for a complete remake, in which case you can ignore the last two points, they have more reason to a Kanto game.

>>30666118
Game becoming outdated is literally the only reason to make remakes.

>>implying three generations isn't enough of a gap
Yes, it is a pretty big gap. But four generations is bigger.

>>30666183
Give me a good reason to remake Sinnoh, then.

>>30666194
I want to know the answer to this as well. IT would be interesting to find out if the ones transferred from virtual console differ from the ones from gen 3 to gen 6.

>>30666200
Because people will buy a Pokemon game in a region not the one released one~two years ago, also no Wi-Fi for Gen 4 or 5 anymore

Kanto needs a new remake way more and I'd rather see that but the VC release killed that

>>30665922
Because stating that something exists implies I'm all for it. Eat shit fucklord.

>>30666200
>Give me a good reason to remake Sinnoh, then
This is a loaded statement. What's considered a "good" reason varies from person-to-person. As far as I'm concerned, there's actually never been a good reason to remake ANY of the games because you can just go back and play any of them right now. It's not like every GBC and GBA spontaneously disintegrated.

Failing necessity, the only reason for remakes is if you're going to do something different. They did that with ORAS and there's little reason to think they wouldn't do that with a Sinnoh remake.

I'd much prefer there never be remakes at all but you know that's not going to happen.

As far as GF is concerned, the only reason is $$$.

>>30665890
we got the original on the VC with access to the bank; I think that's a clear sign not to expect a Kanto game soon

>>30666248
>VC release
this negates need for a remake or gold and silver sequel.

>>30666279
I think Kanto and Johto being incompatible with the rest of the regions was reason enough to remake them. Who wouldn't want the satisfaction of traveling to every region and having them all in one game as a memento of everything you've done so far?

>>30666248
If VC killed Kanto, the fact that you can run your the physical copy of your Sinnoh game in your 3DS means that Sinnoh didn't even have a chance.
People still have their games, you know. You'll literally have the same game twice on the same console if they remake Sinnoh.

>>30666200
This.

I want Pokemon Red2/Blue2(or Green)
It would sell hotcakes.
Think about it. POKEMON RED AND BLUE2. The normies would lose their shit. Slap Charizard and Blastoise on the covers and that shit will fly off the shelves.

They literally just have to make that, and no matter what's IN the actual games, people would buy it.

It would also be much better for veteran fans of the series, instead of ANOTHER version of the old Kanto, we get to see Kanto 20 years later. New Gym Leaders, new mons living in the area. Seeing shit like Saffron and Celadon city fully upgraded. It would be pretty cool actually.

>>30666315
>Charizard and Blastoise
Best idea in this thread. Hope they don't fuck up and make Venusaur a mascot again.
Better yet, make a version for Zard X, and the other for Zard Y. Fuck, make a Zard Z for this.

honestly i wish pokemon had remade sinnoh instead of hoenn first it feels like itd suit this era of pokemon more idk like cute dawn with cute customization,, d/p or platinum outfits, 3d flowers maybe even the distortion world like gen 6 or 7 is the time for d/p/p to be remade its a shame because who knows stylistically where they'll be when we do go back to sinnoh

>>30665596
Just fucking make bank gen 4 compatible or something

>>30666315
Imagine if they releases that and pushed the gen 7 games to 2017. If people thought Sun and Moon broke a few records, I wonder what Kanto games would've been like on the sales charts if they were released a few months after that GO hype.

>>30666313
I think it's a bit silly to justify the remake of a whole game based on the fact you can transfer stuff in the remade game to another, yet unreleased game. That should just be a bonus, the game itself should really exist for its own sake.

>>30666314
VC is available right now and DS games are out of print. I get what you're saying but there's no equivalence here. Besides, the next Pokemon games are coming to Switch.

>>30666315
>pokemon red and blue 2

that already happened though
it's called pokemon gold and silver

>>30666381
>Pokemon games are coming to Switch.
i think this is starting to become a meme

>>30666401
>Johto games
>Kanto postgame with zero story
"No"

>>30666377
>people would rather play buggy old RBY than a remake with "not my gym leaders" and "not my original 150"

>>30666401
No it isn't. Because it's not called Pokemon Red2, or Pokemon Blue2. You don't understand the mind of the normie(The ones you get the most cash from)

>>30666377
Yeah, it would have been insane.

>>30666338
No, just good ol' zard and blastoise. Not the megas either.
And if that game was on the Switch, you got your system seller right there Nintendo. Zelda is gonna push a lot of sales to be sure, but Pokemon Red2 and Pokemon Blue2? Official sequels to everyone's favourite childhood game? You watch that shit sell like water in the desert.

>>30666426
>Kanto
>story
All the shit you imagined as a kid didn't actually happen in the game senpai

>>30666490
It had more story than the Johto games, at least, with Team Rocket actually doing shit.

>>30666315
the only way i would buy a kanto sequel is if it's on the switch. there's no way in hell i'm going through kanto for the 20th time unless it's in 1080p 60 fps

>>30666580
Agreed. I am pretty sick of Kanto. I would also fucking hate it if they literally kept the story the same as the originals.

>>30666580
>Gamefreak making games like that
Unless if they take a break from releasing games every 1 to 2 years I don't see that happening.

>>30666490
This is a meme argument. There is very literally just as much plot in rby as there is in any another core game that has come after it. Being stopped every 10 feet by your friendly friend rivals to have the same 'isn't it great that we're friends, but also rivals!? I'm determined to beat you, I'll win this time!' text-wall conversation doesn't constitute as having more plot.

>tfw you have to do 8 captchas to post.

>>30665596
We probably won't get a Sinnoh remake until Pokemon is already established on a new console. A SM third game/sequel seems more likely though.

>>30666705
>There is very literally just as much plot in rby as there is in any another core game that has come after it
I don't mind someone saying they like the minimalist plot of RBY, but this is a retarded statement regardless of what you might think of the actual quality of the plots in Pokemon.

>>30666705
>there is just as much plot
>except for all this plot which doesn't count as plot
nigga I think you were too busy solving those captchas

>>30666315
>he wants Kanto pandering: final level
No

>>30665596
"Data mining locations" hasn't meant anything since Gen IV because "Johto" was listed as a location when Johto was the single region you couldn't get Pokémon from. Now we can have Pokémon from
>Kanto (Red (VC), Green (VC), Blue (VC), Yellow (VC), FireRed, LeafGreen, HeartGold, SoulSilver)
>Johto (HeartGold, SoulSilver)
>Hoenn (Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Omega Ruby, Alpha Sapphire)
>Sinnoh (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum)
>Unova (Black, White, Black 2, White 2)
>Kalos (X, Y)
>Alola (Sun, Moon)
And when they eventually put Gold, Silver, and Crystal on the 3DS eShop and make it compatible with Bank, you'll be able to add them to the Kanto and Johto lists as well.

If you're really curious what locations are listed, here
http://pastebin.com/QBDSDH6X

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>>30667024
>Pokemon Go

>>30667024
you forgot to mention alola dex being 90% kanto pokemon.

>>30666799
>>30666905

It's like you've never actually played pokemon games or so consumed by anti-genwunnerism you're completely blinded. Here let's do a little plot summary of each game and compare, I mean if it's so obvious and all. I'll start

Every gen plot: become pokemon master catch them all beat the league

Gen 1: team rocket breaks into and trashes a house in cerulean, Bill turns himself into a pokemon, help a seasick ship captain, bust up TR using a casino as a racket, TR kills a marowak and terrorizes lavender town looking for pokeflute, help an old man retrieve his dentures from the safari zone, TR takes silph co hostage to steal masterball, Giovanni turns out to be the mysterious viridian gym leader.

Gen 2: team rocket maims slowpokes for money, then they take attempt to induce energy into lake of rage to evolve magicarp, then they take over the radio tower to attempt to regroup and communicate with Giovanni.

Gen 3: magma/aqua grunt stealing Devon corp shit. Maxie/Archie taking the orb thing at the moutain, locate their base, they flee to activate groudon/kyogre, they do but you stop them.

Feel free to do the rest but I think you'll find that it's nearly exactly the same thing every time. Team bad guys introduced via grunt doing some thuggish lackey shot, then you foil some medium, throwaway "we didn't really need this anyway" operation, then you thwart their ultimate plan to destroy/steal/conquer generally right before the last badge or trial. The end. It's a classic three-part build-up, it's in every game including the first ones, no more no less. The only thing I can think of that motivate someone to believe that gen 1 somehow didn't have a plot is that they are confusing more dialog for more plot.

>>30667068
It's possible that you won't be trading Pokémon FROM Pokémon GO, but the Pokémon received through the event may be from a promotional tie-in to it.
a Virtual Console game (transferred from Gen I/II Kanto or Gen II Johto)
Pokémon GO (promotion for Pokémon GO)
Pokémon Bank
a Pokémon shop
a demo version (Ash-Greninja)
the Pokémon Trainer Club (promotional Pokémon)
a Link Trade (in-game trade)
a Link Trade (in-game trade)
the Kanto region (transferred from Gen III Kanto)
the Johto region (transferred from Gen IV Johto)
the Hoenn region (transferred from Gen III Hoenn)
the Sinnoh region (transferred from Gen IV Sinnoh)
a distant land (transferred from Pokémon Battle Revolution, Sinjoh Ruins, etc.)
——————
the Unova region (transferred from Gen V Unova)
the Kalos region (transferred from Gen VI Kalos)
Pokémon Link (reward participating in Pokémon Link events)
Pokémon GO (promotion for Pokémon GO)
the Kanto region (Gen IV Kanto)
the Hoenn region (Gen VI Hoenn)
the Alola region (Gen VII Alola)
Poké Pelago

>>30667070
It's about 25%. Maybe more if you count alolan forms, but I don't think that would take it up over 30%.

For reference, Kanto Pokemon take up around 19% of total Pokemon in existence.

>>30665596
nigga the sinnoh games were released like yesterday

>>30668459
You may want to sit down for this, anon.

>It's been ten years since Diamond and Pearl came out in Japan and it will be ten years for the US in April
>there have now been as many gens after Gen IV as there were before it

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>>30665596

Heres hoping my Bro Infernape gets an upgrade that makes him the best starter once again and shits all over kung fu chicken

>>30667140
>Feel free to do the rest but I think you'll find that it's nearly exactly the same thing every time

This is a big problem with pokémon games, and I would say it is one of the biggest reasons they really the same. There's no experimenting with the concept to make some actual changes to progression and plot.

Some of the newer games tries (and often fails miserably) to flesh out on the characters, but really there's no distinct difference between now and then besides the fact that they make the game utterly predictable by slapping a legendary mascot on the front.

You can really deconstruct the plots even further if you want to, but your deconstruction is more than enough.

I want a fucking platinum remake isntead of shitty DP

>>30665922
I used to feel the same way as you, gen 3 was my least favorite gen and I hated all the hoennbabbies going HOENN CONFIRMED, but once it happened I just accepted it and realized that they're just going to remake every fucking game whether we like it or not

>>30666038
Ten years from now people will be arguing that Diamond/Pearl obviously needed remakes and that there's no reason to remake Black and White. Ten years after that, same but replace D/P with B/W and B/W with X/Y, etc.

>>30669039
well at least they won't wall off 90% of cross-gen evos til post-game this time, right?

>>30670358
Ten years? Oras came out like two years ago.

Yeah, they left a Sinnoh city's name just for the dataminers to find out!!!!
What do you all think? That they would test a city from the possible remakes in this game? That they would leave something in the text: "This Pokémon came from the Sinnoh Region remakes."?
No, the dataminers didn't found anything.

>>30665681
Anyone who uses the hoenn______,sinnoh______,etc. is really just the reverse. We get it, you really don't like Gen IV. That isn't exactly relevant to the OP, and no one really gives a fuck what you vehemently oppose about it

>>30665875
>Literally every gen is going to get a remake.
Aside from FRLG remakes have been made due to demand. There is no demand for a Sinnoh remake at the moment and I doubt there ever will be given the general lack of interests.
If one does arise in the future however, I'll be solely because GF wants recitify all of the mistakes they made with that gen or to shill another new mechanic like megas or Z moves.

>>30665977
>if fans are vocal enough.
Did you see the anniversary for DP?
You'll be lucky to get a poster let alone a game.

>>30666236
>>30666194
My guess is that they could just randomize the IVs, reset the EVs, and give it a random Nature and if applicable, Ability.

>>30666381
>and DS games are out of print
Don't forget that DS VC is a thing and they're carrying VC support on to the switch supposedly with GC stuff.

>>30670749

I'm thinking they'll double d.vs to get near equivelent I.Vs, random nature, all hidden abilities (no guard still works on OHKO moves and there's no way GF hasn't heart about fissure Machamp by now) and e.vs nuked.

>>30670718
Hgss weren't made because of demand, though. They were needed to help get johto pokemon, who were a hassle to get back then, and the actual GSC games were very difficult to come by if you wanted one with all it's battery life.

>>30665596
Hoenn was probably remade due to fan demand and also with how rare the weather legendaries were. You had to have the GBA games and the DS games and kept them for around 10 years and then put in the effort to transfer them to XY to have them in Gen VI. That's probably why they made ORAS post game aka legendaries everywhere. With how Sinnoh Trio is in ORAS. I don't think they'll remake sinnoh.

>>30665875
The excuse for HGSS was because the Johto legends were basically unobtainable event mon until they came out. This made them far more easily accessible (although they were available in the gamecube games). FRLG similarly made the Kanto starters and legends more widely available.

The only reason we got ORAS is because Hoennbabbies are loud, obnoxious whiners. Sinnohfetuses are proving to be little different. I expect nintendo to cave to them.

Gamefreak is going to remake Kanto,with that Pokémon go hype (which is dead but made pokemon very popular again in 2016)

>>30671507
>They were needed to help get johto pokemon, who were a hassle to get
After FRLG and Emerald they were fairly easy to obtain. DP made it even easier with the addition of the GTS.

>and the actual GSC games were very difficult to come by if you wanted one with all it's battery life.
Replacing the battery is ridiculously easy anon. Fakes are a different story but for some reason fake carts aren't that common with gen 2 games.

>>30672951
You do know that HGSS is literally the result of fan outcry right?

>>30673120
I own replacement batteries, a soldering iron and a gamebit screwdriver and I STILL can't figure this shit out. The tutorials online are all complete shit and assume you know more about soldering things than the average person.

If I wanted to just pry out the old battery and tape in a replacement, I could, but it would look like shit in my see-through Crystal cartridge.

>>30673293
I taped my battery on and I can't see it through my cartridge. The battery is under the art cover, is it not? You didn't scratch off your cover, did you?
Soldering is for punks.

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>>30665596
Cowgirl/rancher renamed Pokemon Breeder

>>30673390
No the cover is in perfect condition, but it only partly covers the battery.

>>30665890
>13 years since last Kanto game, ridiculously outdated
>7 years since HGSS which literally had Kanto in them
Dude

>>30673902
>>30673902
Platinum came out in 2008 and can still be played on current hardware. HGSS did not feature Kanto prominently, and it contained no plot, just gym leaders to beat. FRLG is 12, almost 13 years old now. We need Kanto remakes more. Sorry Sinnohcuck.

I don't understand why the #1 reason suggested as to why Kanto re-remakes won't happen is because RBY (VC) is a thing. Right, because playing broken as fuck original games is an improvement over FRLG.

I do agree though, that Kanto re-remakes would have to do something entirely different plot-wise and even aesthetic-wise to warrant existence and reason to buy a 4th fucking time. I personally would love to experience what supposedly occurred to Kanto during Gen 2's events.

For example
>Cinnabar island destroyed by volcanic eruption that we never witnessed

3DS can handle volcanic eruptions, neh?