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Are all the Ultra Beasts glass cannons? >Playing OU >Opponent

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Are all the Ultra Beasts glass cannons?

>Playing OU
>Opponent sends out Celesteela
>Have out Gastrodon
>Hit it 3 times with Scald
>It dies

>Opponent sends out Pheromosa
>Have out Toxapex
>Use Scald
>It OHKO's without a crit

T-they can't seriously be this flimsy, right?
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>>30608210
MIN MAXING MOTHERFUCKER LOOK IT UP
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>Hit it 3 times
>Glass cannon
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>>30608210
>Are all the Ultra Beasts glass cannons?
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>>30608241
For a pokemon hyped up to be as broken as it supposedly was, I was expecting more "broken-ness" from Celesteela. Not getting 3 shot by a staller.
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>>30608210
a 252 sp atk ev modest gastrodon has a .1% chance of 3 shotting a 0 sp def ev, 252 hp ev neutral nature celesteela with scald.

your opponent might have been running some weird ass sweeping set, did they use automatize by chance?

pheromosa is that frail normally though.
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>>30608288
0 SpA Gastrodon Scald vs. 0 HP / 252+ SpD Celesteela: 58-69 (17.3 - 20.5%) -- possible 5HKO
(58, 58, 60, 60, 60, 61, 61, 63, 63, 64, 64, 66, 66, 67, 67, 69)
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>>30608504
Nope. And my setup with Gastrodon was 252 HP 244 Defense and 16 SpDef With an active Rain dance.

My opponent used Iron Defense like twice but that's for normal defense; not special. I have no idea what his stat was.
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>>30608575
your opponent was just a shitter
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>>30608575
>Iron Defense
Your opponent was literally just a shitter
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>>30608760
I don't know man. Seems like Celesteela is pretty shit for getting dumped by a staller. The hype seems pretty unreal
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>>30608210
Pheromosa is literally mini-Deoxys-A.
Guzzlord is literally Chansey with an offensive Mew stapled to it.
Both Kartana and Buzzwole are Wurld of STR who don't believe in Special Stats.
Celesteela is literally Skarmory with Leech Seed, so no idea what his problem was.
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>>30608842
No, you just fought against a shitter. If you honestly think 1 battle proves she's bad, you're a shitter too.
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>>30608575
ok 0 investment gastrodon scald in the rain is a 50% chance to 3 hit ko for celesteela with max hp and no special defense investment.

I don't know what the best/common stat spread for celesteela is but it sounds like the main issue is your opponent was an idiot, since celesteela usually just leech seed/protects with the occasional max damage heavy slam or whatever.
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>>30608210
>Glass Cannon
>3 Hits
That not how that works.
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>>30608842
>He doesn't know
>He hasn't dealt with a troll SubSeed with Roots set
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>>30608210

>Three hits
>Glass cannon

Celesteel has 97/103/101 bulk, that's far from a glass cannon
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