Why are XY's graphics so much better and more appealing

Why are you so gay?

>>30542266
This is so fucking weird to look at after playing SM, what the fuck.

>>30542266
because gamefreak doesn't care

>>30542266
Because you have gridtism from playing too many old RPGs

>>30542266
>BIG HEAD MODE

They keep the old chibi characters on a grid look

>>30542266
The landscapes were definitely more lively than in SM, more diversity and shit
But those chibi models make me wanna tear my eyes out, I can't stand them anymore

>>30542293
It's the heads. Freaked me out when I went back to it to get the event arceus after so much Moon

I don't mind the chibis unlike most people, but SM looks way superior.

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>>30542266
I prefer SM a lot more actually. The fact that models were larger in the overworld made the shitty 3ds screen more bearable, and the colors were more vibrant in general.
Also in X and Y a lot of stuff had weird outlines around them, I enjoy that they mostly ditched that.

Kinda sucks that they didn't continue the Mega Evo thing though. Sure it was OP on certain mons but if they focused more on shitmons who could benefit from it, it would have been neat.
People like Gothitelle or Phantump who do a job well, but notably worse than their peers and are not used much. Instead we got Megas for entirely competent mons like Blaziken, Charizard, Mewtwo, Rayquaza.
Doh well.

Imagine SM models with XY cloting options

IMAGINE

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>>30542266
I can't believe we thought that looked good before. It's just so bad, especially the 3D chibis

>>30542266
More colors, more details.
But I'm biased because:
>>30542314

>>30542266
Holy shit, that actually looks horrid after playing S/M, fucking hell.

>chibis and grids

No thanks, I never want to see this shit again

>>30542426
I'm content with what we have but since it's the first time i play female i would have been very happy to use Slut Chicken.
Also the male jackets in XY were awesome.

>>30542350
Same. Opened Y and was freaked out by the grossness

>>30542266
Since I dont care about chibi vs non-chibi, I really do like the more vibrant colours of Kalos. One comparison is Frost Cavern vs Mt Lanakia. Very disappointed in how Alola's snow mountain ended up.

We can all agree that both regions look better than 3D Hoenn

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>>30542266

>>30542266
(YOU)

>>30544046
>We can all agree that both regions look better than 3D Hoenn
sometimes I wonder if that's one of the reasons I haven't finished ORAS

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>>30544046
And XY is twelve times more washed-out and colorless compared to older entries

>>30542266
I think this looks so weird with hindsight because it seems like XY just took some 2D grid based environments and then converted them to 3D. But with SM you can clearly tell it was made with 3d in mind from the ground up.

>>30544404
BW seasons are gorgeous too.

>>30544466
is this a jojo reference?

>>30544404
>>30544450
BW2 is still the best game in the series

Unfortunately nothing on the 3ds will be able to top it because of its limits. Maybe on the next console for Pokemon games though

>>30542266
It's hard to believe XY came out almost 4 years ago... even these games look pretty primitive compared to the new ones. It's amazing how much more freedom we had in even XY compared to SuMo...

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>>30542313

>>30542266
You have shit taste.

>>30542293
Now try going back to ORAS where everything is just unusually blocky for no good reason.

>>30544450
Agreed, I recently found and opened my White 2 again and was surprised how pleasant the games were to look at while still being mostly 2D

>>30544547
Every single thread one of you kids talks about how much you like gen V.

>>30544661
Ive been playing since 1998 son. Maybe its because I respect high quality work. Gen 5 clearly has the most detail and content plus I love the PWT.

Why all the hate?

is pixel stuff just dead? everything is going to be 3d forever?

>liking chibishit

>>30544692

No Anon, it's because you have shit taste.

>>30542266
Battles look better in SM

Every pokemon looks so small in XY, where as in SM it only looks weird if they are supposed to be large like Wailord

>>30542266
They aren't, although XY runs way better.

>>30544450
>>30544547
desu I personally didn't like gen 5 because I didn't get the same cozy adventurous vibes I got from HGSS (sue me I really thought followers were icing on the cake especially)

but the world was not one of the things I didn't like, even the little bit of it I played had a pretty nice urban feel to it and seasons were great, they shouldn't have dropped them

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>>30544754
BW2 are objectively they best made games. What do you consider the highest quality games to be? Emerald and HGSS come pretty close

All 3 are clearly the best objectively

Nice argument though. You are autistic as fuck.

>>30544800
I don't mind followers, as long as you have the option to turn them off.
It got annoying after a while.

>>30542266
because there are less brown people you massive racist

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>>30542293
Seriously. Revisiting X and AS after playing moon for the past 2+ weeks is a trippy experience. I don't miss the chibi at all

>>30542266
Holy shit that looks so terrible.

Did we really think this was okay back in the day?

>>30544547
I think Crystal was a huge jump in quality over the original GS.

It was also the first time we got animated sprites, and while they were static after entry, I thought their short animations looked a lot better than V's tweening. I was so disappointed when RSE didn't have it.

>>30544839
I'd argue Platinum and BW as well

>>30544850
some things especially were pretty retarded, if they ever implement it again you should be able to toggle it or something

never found it that annoying though I guess, since they didn't collide with you/get in your way or anything, but my team were usually sprites that didn't look very obnoxious and kind of things you'd expect to have out of a ball anyway

>>30545009
what did BW have that BW2 didn't?
(I never played it)

>>30545083
Better protagonist designs.

>>30544882
Didn't even notice until I went back. It's not even chibi. The proportions in the game are just fucked.

>>30544404
Oh dont get me wrong, Kalos still doesnt look THAT great compared to the 3D regions of Gens 4 and 5. But it looks better than 3D Hoenn and a lot of 3D Alola.

>>30544917
Why do people think they have to pretend to despise everything not new? Even FRLG has a good art style.

>>30545141
People these days are taught that all new things and all change must be good. Rips them out by the roots and makes them more compliant.

>>30542426
Fuck that

I like shorts, they're comfy and easy to wear

>wanting disproportionate chibi models with an area grid

>>30544839
>objectively

Opinion discarded. Everytime one of you B2W2fags say it's the greatest your only argument is literally "muh postgame", when even the original BW did everything else better. Fuck off with your shit taste; B2W2 are even more overrated than HGSS on this board.

>>30545083
Better story/characters/world development. BW also had a climax that made sense in context of where it was placed, amd that matter alot more than people think it does

>>30542266
Wow that looks so bad now. I can replay the sprite games for ages, but I can't see myself revisiting Kalos. The chibi is too weird.

>>30545141
I have no idea how you can think Alola doesn't look better than that chibigrid mess.

Why do people think they have to pretend to like everything not new?

>>30545380
You have yet to throw any actual argument on what the highest quality game is.

The 4 objective best games are HGSS, Emerald, Platinum and BW2. They all have an argument why they should be number 1.

Just admit it anon you have shit taste and probably like gen 1 the most.

>>30545468
>not even reading my post

It's people like you that make Gen 5 look bad.

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>>30545454
There is quite a large difference between "I think this looks better" and "This old thing looks so SHIT now that new thing exists!"

I never said I didnt like how Alola looks, so I wont even call that a nice try.

While I think Kalos is a shitty region with theme park locations, it did help give it a lot more overworld diversity, and many places looked really nice.

>>30545579
>Still hasnt made an argument.

The fact that you think BW has a better postgame than BW2 just shows that you are either trolling or flat out retarded

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>>30542266
>X/Y graphics are better than Sun 's

>>30544839
Gen. 5 had a bigger team apparently.

>>30544547
>BW
>The game introduced THE VGC cancermon as we know today

>>30545468
>objective

Lmao by what metric? Certainly not in terms of graphics, story, characters or designs.
The music was decent and still was forgettable.

>>30545638
>reading comprehension

I said BW is better than B2W2 in everything except postgame, learn to read, underage.

>>30545771
>tumblrtale

>>30545962
xD

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>>30542266
One thing I can think of is the colors. SM is too saturated.
There's also the fact that everything is so damn far apart in Sun and Moon (I get that it's necessary for the ride Pokemon, but it still makes most routes look like shit)
Also I'm pretty sure the textures are higher resolution in XY.

I'd take the models of SM over the XY ones anyday though.

>>30545962
I honestly thought that was a mimiga at first

>>30542266
HAHAHAHAHHAHHA

PFFFHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>30542266
Looking at Gen 7 now, Gen 6 looked REALLY fucking bad.

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>>30546065
>There's also the fact that everything is so damn far apart in Sun and Moon (I get that it's necessary for the ride Pokemon, but it still makes most routes look like shit)
This.
Everything looks so empty in Sun and Moon

>>30546094
Much like real life. Who would have thought.

>>30546131
It's not good game design

>>30544839
>calling anyone else austistic while sucking throbbing gen 5 cock (the gen that almost killed the series) and misusing "objectively" because "muh opinions are facts"
Fucking wew lad

>>30546131
This is the weakest defense of a flaw in a game you like. Come on.

>>30546148
It's perfectly fine design for a game being rendered in a realistic scale. That's just how it works. You can't render the world in a realistic scale but still have it densely packed with shit as if everything was on a way smaller scale. There would be shit everywhere.

>>30546238
Again, it's not really a flaw, that's just how it has to be. The more realistic the scale the more the world has to breath. You aren't a tiny little chibi sprite running around a tiny little chibi world anymore.

>>30545962
How on earth would you know that's undertale if you didn't play though the game yourself

>>30542266
uh they literally aren't.

>>30542293
try playing them, the movement is hilariously bad by comparison. Gen 6 was a fucking beta generation.

>>30546850
Not that anon, but it's a fun game
It's the fanbase that gets well deserved hate

>>30547518
>load up AS for some mystery gift mons
>that grid locked world

ew. At least the UI was better.

>>30544562
>XY came out 3 years and 2 months ago
>Almost 4 years

>>30547681
Well thats almost 4/5th of 4 years ago

>>30546094
What the hell are you smoking? I never got this feeling at all. A lot of the routes are fairly cramped honestly.

Is there an outline patch for XY?

>>30547762
I share this sentiment. It feels kind of theme parkish

>>30547801
I never really noticed it until route 10, Poni Plains makes it obvious too with motherfucking Pokemon jumping from every direction.

Good thing I started playing XY first before playing SM two weeks ago.

>>30542293
I press A in every fucking door in ORAS now.
Thanks SM!

>>30545247
Did you stretch before that reach?

>>30547801
More like a guided tour.

You can pretty much trace back the entire trip that game freak employees had to Hawaii while planning the game.

>>30542293

What was weird was going back to 8 directional movement.

I unironically prefer OR/AS over Sun and Moon.
I think I'll play through AS again and compare more closely.

Game Freak doesn't know how to design a decent world off a grid yet, XY had better setpieces as a result of GF wanting to focus on "beauty", and everything in SM is either cramped hallway-like passages or stupidly wide open and empty

Also most will disagree on this subjective matter but I prefer the washed out colors in XY, and while ORAS was stupidly blocky in geography its colors were more vibrant than SM's as well leaving SM in a bland middleground color choice wise that doesn't appeal to me

>>30542384
The only real Mon's mega's were broken for were Metagross, Salamence, T-Tar and Kangaskhan. Outside of those four, the other's felt more balanced, particularly the XY ones. Still refuse to forgive GF for fucking up M-Pidgeot

>>30549297
In all honesty, despite the shit we give Gen VI, some good shit was introduced that gen.
>Mega's
>PSS
>Super Training
>Simplified breeding system
>Other's that I can't remember off of the top of my head atm.

>>30542266
I unironically prefer this style to S/M

>>30545821
But anon, Mega Kangaskhan was from Gen 6.

ORAS
>Super Training
>PSS
>Nice loop for breeding

SM
>Annoyingly cumbersome EV training
>Festival Plaza
>No nice loop

I'm going to stick to Gen 6 for breeding honestly.

>>30550343
>amie
>wonder trading
>vastly improved GTS (not perfect, but way better than what we had before)

>>30550343
>Secret bases.
>DEXNAV how could you forget this!?
>Rebattle trainers on the routes.
>The best ending credits pokemon has ever had in OR/AS
>Better trainer customization.

>>30550576
>blue pentagon mons

literally worthless

>>30550576
Super training was garbage and SOS battles are just as fast as hordes.

I'm said the loop is gone but hatching eggs is faster with the autism box.

You're wasting your time anyways since Kalos bred pokemon won't have the Alolan plus sign.

>>30542350
e-event arceus? how

>>30542266
I like how X/Y let you dress the female MC as a slut,SuMo is way too TUMBLR.

>>30550787
are you serious? XY didn't even have lipstick

>>30550820
>BELLYBUTTON ALL THE TIME.

i just want playnav back festival plaza sucks hardtime

>>30542266
There's so much to do on XY even post game!!
SM feels so unfinished,such a waste of potential.

>>30542266

Because you're fucking blind.

>>30550774
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/another-chance-at-arceus/

>>30550907
Shit taste.

>>30550937
>chibifag telling anyone else they have shit taste

>>30550731
This right here is the most rage inducing thing.
Pentagon mons are worthless now.

>>30544046

Fuck no

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>>30550921
what pokemon should i replace on my team for arceus

>>30545083
For one, the best route music. Why'd they take Route 10 out of BW2?

And yes, better protags and better story.

>>30550711
>>30550665
Cheers, guys. Knew there was a lot of shit I forgot.

>>30551041
Were you not disappointed in how Alola's snow area is just a bunch of blue crystals on normal rocks? fuck that. Even Mount Silver and Coronet look better than that.

Could we get some side by side comparisons going? I'd love to see Alola's snow mountain vs. Kalos', same with a typical route, etc.

>>30544046
>We can all agree that both regions look better than 3D Hoenn
uh what

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>>30552089
Actually, now that every region is in 3D, Hoenn is probably the worst one aesthetically.

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>>30542384
> Mega Ledian with a Kamen Rider motif never ever ;_;

>>30542344
Landscape was not be more lively what are you on??? Route 1 in sm was massive and fun to explore

>>30552130
I never realized how much I needed this

>>30552127
Wow Hoenn looks so bad. I was about to complain about you cherry picking this but now that I think about it, a lot of ORAS looks like that screenshot. Everything's blocky and the textures look ripped from RSE, like the those weird hole mountain textures in/near Meteor Falls. They look so bad. Johto still looks kind of blocky but yeah, it's a DS game. I think the colors look so much better than ORAS though. ORAS looks oversaturated.

>>30552127
I disagree, it's still beautiful.

>>30552160
Not him but

Route 1 was a great route because it had the nice combination of high up and right at the island edge. Like Kalos Route 1, they made sure it looked cool.

But Route 1 is probably one of Alola's best routes. was disappointed in how little we really saw out into the ocean at the horison like we did for the first few places.

>>30552209
It's just the only pick I could find with both a path and puddle in the same area. But it doesnt matter because they do all look like that. Even as a DS game, Johto rounded out the edges in it's overworld to make it look less blocky.

>>30542266
tbqh the graphics are the only good thing about SM

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>>30552127
>>30552209
>>30552258
It depends on the area.
Seems like some were more rushed than others.

>>30552130
> Ability: Ally of justice
> Does more damage against Dark Types.

>>30552275
My secret base is there. It's perfect.

>>30550188
>M-Pidgeot
Jesus Christ, I always forget that that got a mega. What does it even get? I've literally never seen M-Pidgeot discussed.

>>30552314
Exactly. Some routes in ORAS are honestly beautiful.

While some make me scratch my head in confusion.

>>30552127
these types of pathways in particular are in the areas right outside of Petalburg City.
But then we get amazing routes like 120.

How much better would ORAS have been if it got the proper dev time like SM got?

>>30552327
It gets no guard.
So 100% Hurricanes is basically it's entire niche. Since it has great Sp.Atk but a SHIT Special move pool Is also one of the only mons that can effectively run Hyper Beam.

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>>30546070
>Cave Story

>>30552327
Not enough to warrant it being worth it.

To be completely honest, I really wish Salamence and Metagross never got Megas. They were already good enough without them, and them getting Megas completely outclassed and overshadowed pretty much all the Megas that ORAS introduced.

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>>30552361
You better not be implying what I think you're implying.

>>30552275
>>30552275
Oh, that place definitely looks amazing. One thing GF does is make sure a thing they want to look good will look really good. Like Bellchime Trail or SkyArrow Bridge.

Though I dunno if this can be used as the standard, they knew this was a special route from the original. Still, it cant be ignored because it is indeed amazing.

>>30552334
I think for this game, GF felt they didnt need to try as much. So you end up with the really bad looking mountain tiles or cave tiles. And then a few amazing places like right outside Slateport.

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>>30552402
>Implying

>>30545083
Climax was a lot better in BW since it's the only game where the main story doesn't end with a face off with the champ. Plus Plasma had a much better motif, being a Pokemon liberation group with depth and reasoning, instead of B2W2 where they were literally just pirate ninjas with a freeze cannon.

>>30542266
Because you're a shitty, shitty asshole who hates the new thing presented to you and suddenly "feels nostalgic" for or "sees the charm" in the older games, despite acting like the same shitty, shitty asshole when those games were new.

>>30550576
>>No nice loop
just use royal avenue

beats the shit out of the kalos daycare actually since there's a shit ton of room to turn smoothly

>>30550188
Pidgeot is BL you nigger, it's fine

>>30544404
>implying anything will ever compare to HGSS

b2w2 came close, but they really spoiled us there

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>>30544046
>vibrant colours of Kalos

>>30552130
>In the next game it does happen
>All points go into its special defense
>Gets damp too
How would you feel?

>>30544839
>objectively
This is the fastest way to spot bait.

>>30552513
I'm not sure what you're getting at
In Kalos and Hoenn there were spots that looped perfectly, so that you could just prop the circle pad in one direction with a dime
it made breeding require even less of your attention, which was nice

>>30552275
They literally ripped that stars texture off from XYs Frost Cavern entrance

>>30552127
Unpopular opinion but while I didn't like ORAS I rather enjoyed it's patchwork-like graphics. It had that nice retro vibe to it without being pixelshit.

>>30544839
HGSS sucked but it had a good atmosphere and a ton of bells and whistles.

>>30542384
>entirely competent mons like (...) Charizard
>>30550188
>The only real Mon's mega's were broken for were Metagross (..) T-Tar

At this point I'm not even sure if it's bait anymore

>>30550991
Yes, you have shit taste.

>>30542266
I feel like the rather shitty animations look better on chibi models then they do on normal preportion models.

Took me ages to accept the SM walk cycle.

>>30545582
>This old thing looks so SHIT now that new thing exists!
Pretty much this Thread.

>>30553154
My reasoning for saying M-Metagross and T-Tar being broken is that they are psuedo legendary's: they didn't need Megas in the first place.

>>30553273
>Accepting the SM walk
You some kinda gay, anon? The game looks beautiful and some animations are fantastic but fuck that walk animation to hell

>>30542266
XY & ORAS looks fucking horrible
Holy shit

>>30544839
Emerald is shit though

>>30542266
I think you flip flopped XY and SM.

>>30545118
Even though it took 3 years I'm glad people are starting to notice. Back when XY first got announced in Janurary 2013 I was like "Um.... guys, the overworld looks really weird" and my friends told me to fuck off and be grateful that we finally have 3D. I honestly miss the 2D games though, all the models will look exactly the same for the years to come and I liked having different sprites for each game. Made them feel more unique.